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Is this Colorado's Most Famous Steam Engine? Rio Grande Southern # 20 on the Cumbres and Toltec 

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Hey Kids, there's a ‪@Hyce777‬ in here somewhere in this video... Let me know where you see Hyce at.
Anyways, is this the most famous individual locomotive in all of Colorado? The Rio Grande Southern 20 was built in 1899 by the forerunner of ALCO (The American Locomotive Company), the Schenectady Locomotive Company in New York. The 20 was built for the fame Florence and Cripple Creek Railroad, a 3 foot gauge railroad that ran from the Cripple Creek Mining District through Phantom Canyon to Florence on the Denver and Rio Grande's original mainline (For the uninitiated, Florence is just east of Cañon City, the home of today's 'Royal Gorge Route' scenic train with its vintage EMD's that roll through the Royal Gorge). The F&CC ran until 1912 when the railroad was washed away in the canyon. With the increased competition from the Midland Terminal which connected to the national railroad system via the standard gauge Colorado Midland required no transloading from narrow gauge cars. The F&CC equipment languished for a few years, with nearly all the motive power sold off to other railroads. One, the # 3, the Elkton, was sold to the Denver and Rio Grande and became it's C-18 # 425 (later becoming D&RGW 315 after the 1921 reorganization.) The railroad's # 20, the "Portland:", was sold to the Rio Grande Southern, a struggling railroad in southwestern Colorado. The RGS was built in 1890 and three years after was bankrupted by the Silver Panic of 1893. The Southern left Durango and headed southwest before traveling back to Hesperus (fun fact, the dog scene in National Lampoon's 'Vacation' was shot just off the RGS grade). It headed west to Mancos, though Lost Canyon to Dolores where it followed the Dolores River to Lizard Head Pass where it dropped down to the San Miguel Valley using a looping pattern down to Ophir and branched off to the now- ski town of Telluride. Further along it went up over Dallas Divide where it then dropped into the Uncompahgre Valley and Uncompahgre Valley at Ridgway. In Ridgeway, it connected to the D&RG's Ouray Branch that came south from the main line at Montrose and Grand Junction. # 20 joined a fleet of aging locomotives that the Rio Grande Southern rostered, most cast off from the Denver and Rio Grande Western with at least one coming from the Colorado and Southern. The 20 toiled along until the end, most of the time in freight service, as passenger trains were soon taken over by The Galloping Goose (enter C.W. McCall...). The 20 pulled special trains also, for groups such as the Rocky Mountain Railroad Club. The 20 even ventured up today's Durango and Silverton as it posed as the 'Emma Sweeney' in the movie 'A Ticket to Tomahawk' along side uncredited actors Jack Elam and Marilyn Monroe.
After abandonment, the 20 traveled over Cumbres to Alamosa where the RMRRC took ownership and put her on display at the Narrow Gauge Motel, an establishment that eventually became today's Colorado Railroad Museum (‪@crrm‬ ). From 1951 until 2006, the locomotive sat at the sites until it was sent to the east coast for the first time since construction. While there, it was at the Strasburg Railroad and its machine shop having major boiler and frame work done and it returned to Golden in 2019.
Following its return to service in 2020, the locomotive hit the road in 2021 making a stop in Cripple Creek for the first time since the 1910's. Next, she kept trucking down the San Luis Valley to Antonito and the Cumbres and Toltec where it was in steam for the Victorian Iron Horse Roundup, a meet up of 1870's to 1890's engines which included 315, 'The Eureka' owned by Dan Markoff originally built for the Eureka and Palisade Railway in Nevada. The Glenbrook, a 2-6-0 built at the same time as the 4, from the Lake Tahoe and Navigation Railroad, now owned by the Nevada state Railroad museum. And finally, the C&TS's own 168, another 4-6-0 originally built fort he Denver and Rio Grande.
So join me as we follow the 20 as she makes appearances during the VIHR as she makes test runs at the Antonito YardLimit (yard limit, yard limits?) where she was watched over by the CRRM Crew. Next, we also go on the Sunset of the RGS charter arranged by Trains Magazine and its late editor Jim Wrinn. When we see # 20 solo, we're on Pete Lerro's charters in September. We'll stop at Hangman's Trestle, Gravity Hill, Whiplash Curve, Sublette, Toltec, Toltec Gorge and Osier. You'll see no distant signals on this line, it's all dark territory, nor will you see any Coaster trains, as there's no commuters. Join me as we take a look at what's arguably the most famous locomotive in Colorado.

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Комментарии : 78   
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 Год назад
This is wonderful mate! Spoilers: I'm firing for the big safety pop at the beginning. You're welcome. :P
@awildjared1396
@awildjared1396 Год назад
0:41, found ya, 5:02 found ya again
@crazyjack3357
@crazyjack3357 Год назад
Trying to give her too many beans
@robertwilliams4215
@robertwilliams4215 Год назад
WE GOT PLACES TO BE
@pontushaggstrom6261
@pontushaggstrom6261 Год назад
bruh i was about to mention you, and here you come and ruin it all for me. Cheers
@Hitperson
@Hitperson Год назад
is that also you with the gigantic DSLR around 5 mins? I'm not sure paparazzi is effective when it's done from a steam engine in the middle of nowhere...
@masonkpiano
@masonkpiano Год назад
Makes me happy to see that engine truly run, not walk around a loop forever and ever
@RailsofMichigan
@RailsofMichigan 4 дня назад
It makes me super happy that we have Rio Grande's Southern 20 back up and running. She's been my most favorite and most loved narrow gauge locomotives since I saw pictures in old books of the narrow gauge rail lines in Colorado I hope in the future she'll get to come back to the Cumbress and Toltec again in the future, but most of all, I would love to see her visit the Durango in Silverton. It'll be the closest she's ever been to returning to home rails of the rgs.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind Год назад
Nothing like seeing a piece of history climbing through the beautiful landscape of the rockies.
@bluescrew3124
@bluescrew3124 Год назад
I spotted The Hyce! Gorgeous photography; great video
@slanderedstone
@slanderedstone Год назад
I love the reference to the C.W. Mccall song when you were talkin bout the geese, this is some damn good footage!
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Thought I would take a lot longer for someone to pick up on that
@LukeRobinson
@LukeRobinson Год назад
Great silhouette train shot at the beginning!
@joshuabrown6791
@joshuabrown6791 Год назад
I freaking love that I accidentally left the captions on because RU-vid did not disappoint with this one. A loco hooting once became [thank you]. The there were times the captions couldn't tell what the freak was going on so it's calling the chuffing and hooting; [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause]! Geeberz. Anyway, great video dude!
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Well, I guess I shouldn't delete those then...
@stephensfarms7165
@stephensfarms7165 Год назад
This is the best RR in Colorado, it’s a must see and ride. 👍👍👍👍
@wolfgangpfeilergartenbahnd6530
A fantastic video about the Cumbres and Toltec Narrow Gauge Railway and the Rio Grande Southern No. 20 Steam Locomotive. The explanation of the operational use of this steam locomotive is also very nice.
@markthomas6436
@markthomas6436 Год назад
Great photography! Thanks for producing.
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Thanks!
@Conductordave
@Conductordave Год назад
Fantastic! I hope we can arrange for another visit in the future! I missed it the year it came out!
@TrainBoi6095
@TrainBoi6095 Год назад
New sub, Awesome Photography Hyce is here 4:57
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Awesome thank you!
@cvreiner
@cvreiner 3 месяца назад
Thanks! Not only great footage,but really great background info to date!
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl 3 месяца назад
You are welcome!
@crrm
@crrm Год назад
RIP Jim Wrinn.
@crrm
@crrm Год назад
Awesome video - thanks for sharing it with us!!!
@300poundbassman
@300poundbassman Год назад
Very nice film, love the tandem pulling. Hope to watch more. Thank you and your doggie👍❤️
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
He’s such a good boy….
@johnramsayskier
@johnramsayskier Год назад
Great video with great narration! Thank you!
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Thanks!
@c5173
@c5173 Год назад
fabulous film, bravo!
@akaBoG
@akaBoG Год назад
Thanks for sharing!!!
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
You’re welcome!
@alansvideos5358
@alansvideos5358 Год назад
Thanks Bill for this great video! 🙂
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mattomon1045
@mattomon1045 Год назад
this is great I was with the Rockey Mt railroad club and I have worked on the #20 .
@ihatemyself728
@ihatemyself728 4 месяца назад
didn't expect to see Hyce in the video lol
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl 4 месяца назад
He's like the Spanish Inqusition... No one expects the Spanish Inquisition, and no one expects @Hyce777
@johnjornod6429
@johnjornod6429 Год назад
Best done, most COLORFUL train video, I have EVER SEEN! I saw the Rio Grande Southern 20 at the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden and picked up "The RGS Story". That was 4 books ago, as I am on my 5th of 11 books in the series. I love this little Colorado Railroad. Having grown up in Denver I had ridden the Silverton, Cumbres, Georgetown Loop. But never knew about the RGS. Your video made that road come to life. How did you know where to set up? It looks like you are all by yourself and are taking the the most colorful best curves on the Cumbres & Toltec.
@kakeboss72
@kakeboss72 Год назад
Hyce is at 4:57
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Hey… Someone was paying attention!
@bluescrew3124
@bluescrew3124 Год назад
I spotted The Hyce
@YardLimit
@YardLimit Год назад
Stunning work. Maybe your best video?
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Oh boy... I dunno about that...
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind Год назад
Is there some place you have the photo from the thumbnail? I'm yearning to have it on my desktop : )
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
There's a version up on rail pictures.net right now...
@henrytaussig
@henrytaussig Год назад
Hello Zephyr! 🐶
@joelvale3887
@joelvale3887 Год назад
Which month was this video filmed?
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
August and September 2021
@UncleFester84
@UncleFester84 6 месяцев назад
I'm curious why #168 has bigger driving wheels than #20, despite having much less power.
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl 6 месяцев назад
The 168 was built mainly for passenger service… so speed. Bigger wheels allowed it to go faster.
@UncleFester84
@UncleFester84 6 месяцев назад
@@Big_Diehl I understand, but then why hasn't the #20 been built as a Consolidation instead of a Ten Wheeler if tractive effort was paramount? I'm in no way a huge railway expert but i read that the latter were ideal for pax service exactly because by having fewer driving wheels they could be spaced further apart and increased in size, while the former by having more smaller wheels had more adhesion to the rails, so was more ideal for heavy, slow cargo trains. Am i missing something?
@knightryder6068
@knightryder6068 Год назад
"Started in 1899, finished in 1890." Maths.
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Someone elsewhere also caught my dyslexia... I checked the script, and I clearly wrote 1889....
@knightryder6068
@knightryder6068 Год назад
@Big Diehl lol, it's alright dude. I think we all knew what you meant.
@taijuan5087
@taijuan5087 7 месяцев назад
@ 1:34: Wait...what?
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl 7 месяцев назад
I’m dyslexic
@taijuan5087
@taijuan5087 7 месяцев назад
@Big_Diehl It adds to the unique character of your videos. BTW, I met you on the recent D&S mid-train helper photo special in October. You do GREAT work - thanks for sharing it!
@ritagislason
@ritagislason Год назад
😌 "promosm"
@cerneysmallengines
@cerneysmallengines Год назад
Dude, you gotta get a pop filter or something, the speech pop is unbearable
@Big_Diehl
@Big_Diehl Год назад
Noted
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