Is this FINALLY the Luna We Have Been Asking For?! | Discraft AB X PM Luna Review 

i really dont understand why some discs tend to look as if they are ti when they arent supposed to be

@@MulliganDG probably more of that plastic blend in the mix

Thanks man!!!

I feel like discraft is lacking the Overstable putter. Am I crazy?!

@@MulliganDG They do have the Ringer and Challenger OS but there needs to be something between those and the Zone. Closest to that from DGA is the Breaker, which is worth considering.

The 2020 handled it fine. My point is the new big z is not like the og ones

Counter point is that if you throw MOST any putter nose down and with full power, it will flip over. Problem is that the Luna generally does that in most blends. Newest ones seems to have fixed the problem, but I wonder how it beats in

So many people love the pure man! I tried it as a putting putter and it wasn’t for me but I bet throwing its perfect

Yeah for me it feels just right but seeing you throw those lunas kinda makes me wanna bag them ngl! 😅 keep up the good work man!

@@carlosherrera922 I’m very inconsistent right now so I got some work to do lol but they are good discs just expect them to be a bit straighter than advertised!

once again all i was saying is that this run is not as stable and AB literally said it in a video after I posted this so try and disagree with that lol

Please explain!!! I’m looking for input on what people want! So like comparison of runs?

@@MulliganDG just videos showing how the different plastics alter the discs. So like get as many different plastic types of a a popular mid or fairway or driver and compare them like you did with the lunas. Oh or even better, find all the diacs that dont fly anywhere near their flight numbers like the luna and show how they really fly. Kind of exposing the flight number fails and give them some more accurate numbers based off of how you make them fly and also in comparison with something that has accurate flight numbers and it flies just like that. For example i had an active premium rockstar that instead of flying like the numbers of 8/5/-2/1 that are on the disc, it flew like 7/3/0/4. No kidding the thing started fadding about 1/3 of the flight out of my hand and went almist as far left as it went strait on a flat release. Kind of like a tick more understable and slower tilt.

@@nyqpi33 brilliant. I will take a look at my collection today and do that! I figured maybe give it "Nate's Numbers" as well as the feel, flight, and accuracy compared to the numbers and then rate it out of 10

I'll also add that the most OS luna i own atm is a $18 stock Big Z... not an OG, AB, or any of these special runs. Big Z runs are notoriously inconsistent, the stamp makes no difference in my experiences. I'm assuming the OG's just went much heavier on the Z in the blend since they are consistently more OS

Which all of this is most likely why they have made the Kratos. Looking forward to that disc being easily available

They are in the 170 range. Basically not enough difference to make them flip

@@MulliganDG yeah just an interesting one really cause to me the Luna flight numbers are accurate. AB throws a 160g rubber blend thats straight. I guess that's why it's such a hot topic. Great video by the way

@@MattRobertsonDG thanks! I just think a lot of people want a stable run and they have yet to give us a good one. all the stable discs are hard to find honestly. Thats a big reason why the new collab luna sold out so fast because everyone thought it was going to be stable.

@@MulliganDG yeah I think you're right! It's easy to buy a flippy disc that flips but finding a Stable disc thats actually stable can be tough. Especially when they beat in. Please make more videos!

@@MattRobertsonDG possibly dropping one today! I figure I'll post some that are just for fun and show my lack of skills and others that are more educational or review type.

You are speaking my language lol

Try a premium Envy. Perfect Back hand throwing putter by far

@@JoshJackson13 I threw the Envy for a while but switched to the p3x because the Envy feels a bit shallow in the hand for my taste.

Yeah if not the envy then prodigy or disc mania have good stable throwers but I mainly 4hand Toro and Pyro.

I totally agree i cannot throw like the pros. But that is why I threw multiple runs and still found a 2020 luna to be stable and the new big z luna to be flippy. My problem is that they advertised it as if it was going to be the stable run everyone wants but it is not. Thanks for the tip!

I literally just found a perfect Ezra nuke that bombs but I absolutely agree. It’s getting a little frustrating

I love them too I just want like even a lunaOS Hahahaha

Agreed….. BUT what was the point of the video? The Luna is not as stable as people expect when they buy it.

They sold out in a few hours lol. Everyone wanted them so bad so I just made a video saying I don’t think it was worth it

@@MulliganDG Alright thanks, but What shop? Discrafts own online store, Ledgestone or somewhere else? Couldn’t find when I searched for it.

@@Axel-hn7yi it was advertised on instagram and it was underneath the team discraft

@@MulliganDGOkay thanks!

I’m giving the green one away at 1000 subs!

Go watch Paul rip on it and throw it 450 and it doesn’t flip lol

so frustrating lol

I want one to make a video but they are hard to find

yeah thats a better way to explain it but i guess i just meant hard to find a good price lol

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And it’s annoying that they can’t just make more like that instead of these flippy ones

Planning to try that one out next week too haha although Paul said it was straight in a video

Like I said I’m no pro. But these things clearly are not as stable as they should be.

@@MulliganDG I think you mean overstable, don't you? You something that fades hard. Stable is what they are doing now - mostly flat - slight turn and fade back gently. The only throws I recall seeing Paul or AB throw Lunas was for a straight flight or a complete hyzer. I think with enough hyzer, they'll just fly on that angle fairly well. I agree about the flight numbers, but they work for me because it's what I'm looking for.

@@dwmichaels it’s pretty clear after throwing them all that the new big z luna is not over stable or even stable. Thats the whole purpose of the video. I’ve heard AB talk about looking for those stable lunas. It’s pretty obvious it’s not like the old ones

First I should read before I post. Sorry bout that. No big deal. Just letting you know you aren’t releasing on Hyzer. And stable means straight. AB throws them 400+ on a rope. but he lets them go on a steep Hyzer.

@@jaynorris3631 I agree I could fix the angle for sure. But like you can see the 2020 Luna on a rip doesn’t turn and burn where the new one has no integrity. Clearly this is not what people were expecting. Everyone wants the Luna that can handle more torque like those old runs but they just keep releasing flippy runs and I got tired of it lol

Exactly. I love the Luna for different purposes but for a stable putter it does not work for me

I think you’re onto something lol

Yeah I’ve been trying to fix some form issues but still these things are not very stable

Anthony Bareela literally made a video not long after I posted tihs and said that this run of the disc was not as stable so how are you going to argue with that lol

@MulliganDG my stance is that you're evaluating the performance of the disc as a driver when it's not a driver, obviously you can throw a putter however you like (for approach/putt/drives) But the disc in question is designed to be for putting and thrown at a speed that is reasonable for putting. In the video you're testing the putters as if they are drivers and judging them thusly. My understanding is that the first number on the disc rating is for throwing speed typically 1-15, putters are like a 2 or 3

@@bigfloppymonster I think you need to just go watch AB's video where it ltierally demonstrates the older runs have more stability than this run. because it literally proves my point my guy

@@MulliganDG Okay

amen

Honestly great disc!

Thanks for the great feedback! I 100% agree that I could throw them better. I hope you understand my point of this video is not to make me look like a great disc golfer but to see whether or not this disc was a stable run, which it is not. I think we all can agree the Luna can be a little misleading and there are too many people searching for the stable runs of lunas

The guy in the video is correct with the deception of the Luna. The TI Luna look straight to US as well. The number suggest straight to OS. I know numbers aren't an exact science, but a guide. Those flight numbers were controversial from release and are still way off. Those first big Z def have some great HSS compared to most other runs.

I throw the chally ss but figured I’d show a video on this lol

Great disc

That didn’t exist when this came out hahaha

not really lol

I’m glad I’m not crazy because some people try and defend it

Go watch AB throw the Kratos and the old big z lunas then come back to me

@@MulliganDG Nope. Its just that luna as a mold is not supposed to be stable / overstable. They are supposed to be straight to understable. No matter what the numbers say. If you want OS putter go for envy or something like that.

Hahaha it’s at my work and I wanted to film a video. Definitely not the best spot I agree I don’t have any other videos filmed there