Is this Oilers team more talented than the one that just lost in Cup Final? | Jay on SC 

Arvidsson isn’t a huge piece.

@@btgkg9639he is if he’s healthy

Ya but the bottom line is most important and truth is, oilers got to 15 wins this year but probably won’t next year womp womp

⁠@@sebastiandodds-espinel2428bro like what, what is bro saying

Nashville is a top3 team now

I was only hoping for we'd keep Janmark and try to figure the rest out. But damn was I pleasantly surprised

@@SquatleJeff Jackson let his gonads hang and buying out Campbell asap was king shit

they are about to lose mcdavid and draisatl next season you like decades of darkness and hopes of lottery picks?

​​@@F.A-TUBE McDavid said he's not leaving. Draisitl is currently in contract negotiations with the oilers. They're not going anywhere. Check your facts and sources next time.

AND ! they have a tactically superior coach who instructs, teaches and has a brain for what it takes to win - now that Kris has been to a SCF, there's no doubt he now knows what it takes to bring the boys over the top into the hoisting stage.

As. a Red Wings fan, I was indifferent.. but good for you guys 😊

You know what happens in this league when assume things.. don't expect better results

Best team on paper still have crap defense and no goaltending and outscore there problem most of time.

​@@johnblue341 you literally know nothing about hockey. Maybe try watching the games instead of being a parrot for things people said 2 years ago. Their goals against average was elite last year, and the reason they lost the cup was lack of offense. Educate yourself.

​@@michaelkeller5927The Oilers GAA was 10th in the NHL, that's not "elite" and their scoring was 4th, the Panthers GAA was 1st but their scoring was 11th. So how did the Panthers have more offense? By having a better defense.

I think you have it backwards...Draisaitl needs to figure out his 200 ft game - he does back check on occasion but it needs to be more consistent, he tends to be lazy. There's nothing wrong with McD's 200 ft game because he works hard at it during the summer.

Very small chance

@@ryanaines6617 based on what? I’m curious for your insight BRO!!

@@petermoroz6556 History

Nobody is taking Nurse. We need to get used to wasting 9m on his useless presence for the next few years.

Still need to sign Holloway/Broberg. Someone has to go to make the numbers work...I'd love to keep Kane - but you can lose Kane and not need another forward...if you lose Nurse, he needs a 25 minute replacement. Best realistic case to keep both would be Kane taking the NHL's fully allowed 82 game holiday and miraculously returning playoff game one.

Scumbag players deserve scumbag situations… Kane is a joke, that’s why EVERYONE was glad HE lost the finals not the oilers. Same with Perry

@@alanpaul9481 dump ceci and LTIR kane , done

LTIR Kane, and put Ceci and Stetcher on waivers to start the season. That frees up 7.5 mil in space to sign everyone

As an Oilers fan who has seen the stunted development of Hall, Nuge, and Eberle, the lack of playoffs for 6 years before the latter two's first playoffs hurt. It's another beast and neither were really ready for it. Skinner's situation is a bit worse but I think he'll not only rise to the occasion but has a team around him that can help. Eberle and Nuge were playing with a ton of young teammates who also had their first playoff experience.

@@nrXic Yeah, that does make sense. I can definitely imagine there’s a big difference playing your first playoff game with vs without other players who’ve been there. Skinner should be well taken care of.

I think they need about 10 mil more to sign both Drai 13,5 McDavid 16 Mil. Cap also rises good pace now

Bouchard needs to get paid too. add another 9.5 million

@@liamskeo1768 I dont think he gets lore than Makar so add 6 but yes they need to give up many players

Screw the Oilers....Hockey is over take a break..................

It’s impossible to get rid of that man. First he has a full no move clause, second it’s in effect for like 6 more years, third there’s nobody that’s gonna take that whole contract even if you can by some miracle move him. So really all your doing is losing nurse and tying 4.5m (I’m guessing they have to retain half) of dead cap to the team for the next 6 years and losing a very solid D man. So ya, it ain’t gonna happen

@@shawnthibodeau189 Just saying, he's not worth 9 million, maybe half of that. The contract itself hurts, didn't say he's a horrible player and needs to go.

@@Valarmorgolis oh I fully agree, I’m just saying that moving that contract is straight up impossible.

They can't for three more full seasons, and then he still has a ten team trade list. :(

Man, I don't want Nurse to go. I want him to be worth 9 mill

If the same coaching staff returns -- he'll be told to buy in or there's the door.

I have been saying that too Gangum Vegas Style!

Nah, they let him go and Vancouver signed him

Maybe not....LTIR

How about the other players ? Nurse ? Nugent Hopkins ? Hyman ?

Skinner just brought them to game 7 of the final and their team defense was 2nd overall in the playoffs behind Florida. What a joke of a comment lmao

@@dungeree7292 it was the team not them, you know the defence sucks.

Top 8 defensive team with Knoblauch

I know that plus minus isn't a good metric but Bouchard is one of the best in the NHL in that regard. Maybe it's being paired with Ekholm that inflates his numbers, but if they keep that pairing together they're good. Nurse and Ceci are the ones that get lit up. They really need one more defender that can plug one of those holes. I just don't think they have the cap space to do it

Did you miss the entire last season and playoffs?

​@@nrXicI honestly don't understand how Bouchard is considered a top d man and on the pp too. I'm not an Edmonton fan usually, but I watched them all the way through this post-season and Bouchard was notably terrible and responsible for a lot of goals against. He just didn't seem to have general hockey sense, he was never ready for a pass, like on the pp, instead of one timing it or a quick redirect/shot at the goalie when he got the puck, he'd seem to need to collect and position himself to shoot AFTER receiving the puck. And then he still would never shoot, he'd panic pass it to someone who's covered. Other times just standing around blocking Skinner from seeing the puck. I thought he was terrible, but the announcers were hyping him up, so I must be missing something. I'm all here for some Bouch bombs lol.

@@ChyloeReece The numbers demonstrate that he pushes offense. It's not just the fact that he was +34, which was 5th in the entire NHL for defenders, it's his ability to move the puck up ice which gives his offense more time with a puck and a chance to score. So he's not much of a shutdown defender but when he gets the puck he moves it up really quickly. I think even he would admit that he's not the best defender out there. In regards to him shooting, this season was his 3rd full NHL season so I'm sure that will come with time. Which is one reason why I think he's getting hyped quite a bit, because he is so incredibly early in his development that the rest will come in, from being a better defender to contributing more to offense. Like I said, I think pairing him with Ekholm boosted his defensive numbers this season. But with the defenseman hitting their prime in their seventh to ninth season He still has an opportunity to become better. I'm far more worried about Nurse. Never mind his insane contract, but I don't think he's playing any better than a third pairing at the moment. I wonder if he was injured.

Only bit more rocks were needed in game 7.

@@Tomas.P some paper and scissors should of won them game one haha

@@terranboot9405 only if it was scissors in Bob´s eyes or something. That was his game, not EDM defence´s fault.

We already do know. They have the same team that went to the SCF.....and adding 100-ish goals to the roster with a full year of Henrique plus Arvy and Skinner

Skinners young and he keeps getting better every year. He's proven himself, he's gonna be a rockstar. He's a local Sherwood park boy to.

Defence will most likely get better just really depends on broberg, but even if it stays the same it’s proven it’s effectiveness in the playoffs, and skinner is still getting better people forget he’s only like 24, young for a goalie

Oilers had one of the lowest Goals against in the Regular season last year. Best PK. Lost by 1 goal in game 7 of the stanley cup final. This notion they have no goaltending and no Defense needs to stop.

They lost in game seven of the final and you mouthing like they didn’t make the playoffs.

Edmonton is stacked and players want to play in Edmonton. Cap space issues. Put E.Kane on LTIR and send in some Defense. As long as they stay healthy, Edmonton will be in the finals next season for sure.

Every team edmonton versed on the way to the cup got worse, Edmonton got better

Except two teams with crap defence went to the final and the only reason Florida won was Bob.

Vinny is gone and Broberg is replacing him. That's a massive upgrade

Why do they need changes in net? As long as Skinner gets enough rest he's a very good goalie as he's proven all year

Broberg is better than desharnais and the combination of Arvidsson and Skinner is significantly better than foegle. Losing those 2 is irrelevant

Where's he going ? To Utah ? 🤔👨🇩🇪🏒

How about Trudeau-Biden and Notley --oilers third line of losers............

@@terryc.3624 how about you're a jealous idiot - guess your team ain't even making the playoffs eh?

Yes but there is a massive difference. The players on the Oilers have made the playoffs consistently in recent years and have compiled battle scars and experience in the playoffs over time. Ottawa has not even came close to reaching the post season ever since they drafted Brady

Cheap. Low term whateves

You know they can burry their contract to the minor right ?

@@prosoyensPerry won’t play in the Minors.

Both under a million and both are high impact if healthy. Great analysis stupid

4 mil increase in cap, and about 4M in bonus money being paid this year coming off the cap

Panthers got worse, oilers got better. No need to worry about them, they'll lose in the 1st round if they even make the playoffs

Just the one player ? How about the others ? Nugent Hopkins ? Hyman ? Stuart Skinner ?

No he's saying get rid of nurse to free up 9 million. Then you can get better defenseman which nurse isn't. He's right. Nurse is the key to all of it