Is this the end? Complete engine failure - Land Rover Discovery 3 / LR3 - Episode 1 

I have a friend here that is a Land Rover tech, but I don't know man... I might have to move to Germany. Christian is on another level in terms of attention to detail and care.

😅👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

@@IowaLR4 not just me considering moving then.🤣👍

You do need the Vera as well otherwise it just doesn't work! :)

@@DavidForster OMG! We need both!

insult, a mechanic these days, is a changer of parts this man is a machinist, fitter, electrical and electronics expert, and troubleshooter, todays (mechanics), cannot rebore, line bore, counterbore

Sorry Christian is not a mechanic 😮 Christian is a fantastic Engineer ( I think in Germany you call it Doctor) Apparat from the Amount of knowledge he gives Christian & Vera are the just incredibly entertaining making a dull subject interesting 👍👍🙏✊

We work only on Saturday and sometimes a bit on Sunday on our cars. Rest of the week is regular work. Christian

@@Vera_and_Christian Probably hours of overtime in research and gathering info as well :)

@@Vera_and_Christian fix it and sell it 👍

Did he ever rebuild the engine?

@@jhgoelz Yes, watch the videos.

I've heard if your land rover doesn't leak oil it's because it run out of oil. lol

I don't have a single oil spot from either one of our cars, even the Freelander, and proud about that. Glad someone noticed 😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

@@Vera_and_Christian i noticed Vera age ago, well done

I sent Christian & Vera a link to your YOUTube videos, as I’ve watched your work on similar issues. Very informative and Christian has evidently watched as well given the name drop 👍🏻

If you take out the transmission first, you have the same hard work with the upper bellhousing bolts. Better is transmission and engine out together.

@@lr3wedgev832 you don't. Take the transfer box out, lower the back of the gearbox down and you can get to all the top bolts and the crossover pipe bracket with a long extension. I've done loads that way.

Next time we try to take the trans out as well. Can´t be much worse. I wanted to avoid taking the DS off and the transfer case... I also cannot lift anything out of my pit once the car is over it. So lots of limitations. Of course I know all your videos! What do you think where I get my information from? I already bought the tool for the crank sensor like in your video. Thanks for doing this work. Christian

@@pistonbroke and use an airdriven ratchet, but you could not work alongside our Teutonic friends, you are too untidy, tee hee, you are worse than me

😂true.

Hi James. Your comment is so truthful. I commented, Mrs. Simple soultion=Toyota .

It's not my car so I am not stressed at all. Except that our entire basement and driveway is littered with car parts and I have to be too careful moving around in my own house and property. 😂👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

It's not my car, so no stress for me 😅👍🙋‍♀️

You are absolutely right. Christian can fix any car. 😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

😂😂👍 That is a good one. 🙋‍♀️Vera

Indeed we are grateful for the 4.4s. However surprisingly my mechanic found some metal pieces in the oil when I did the service a week ago. I have been advised to check the oil pressure. My other friend said it could be due to standing still for 6 months in 2020. Do you have any other thoughts?

Actually, Fabians also had been standing for a long time, and I have read that about others too. (Fabian has only owned his Disco for 7000km) The oil pressure is an indicator so you might want to have that checked. We have footage of when we checked the oil pressure a couple of weeks ago, but then Fabians Disco broke the next day and there was no time to edit that video yet. 👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

Seemingly Discos hate standing for too long bcz my other friend had his also having engine damage after having it parked for sometime. It is diesel.

I would not have one if it was given to me for free...I can't believe in the day and age that landrover can get away with releasing an engine into the market with such a dangerous defect

@@colinkensley To be fair, it's a PSA-Ford engine built at a Ford plant. Land Rover have now finally retired this engine and replaced it with an in-house straight six. Time will tell if Christian ends up taking one of those apart!

So is the newer SDV6 Engine less likely to develop this problem?

Michael Ruepp No it's still an issue.

They're great cars but if you do buy one just make sure you get a warranty to cover the engine, mine failed at just 55k

Next Sunday I post my DIY line boring. Hope it’s not boring. Christian

😅 We are not one of those people. Every RU-vidr stating something like that is plain out lying, and they know that . You should see our video when we installed the snorkel, that took forever.😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

New for us too. We can make later on a video about the left over pieces and ask where they go.

🙏👍🙋‍♀️Vera

There will be a video but not in a how-to style. More like the OMG style.

😅👍 Lets hope Fabian is not going to end up bankrupt. But with a land Rover repair shop, that could have been a possibility 🙋‍♀️Vera

@@Vera_and_Christian I’m really looking forward to seeing the next few (or 60) videos of Christian repairing the engine. I think you should be more hands on Vera and let Christian do the filming 😉 you could tell him to concentrate then..

@@ian_s7481 😅👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

True. Emission control and better fuel economy make these engines so complex.

So true. We petrol heads need to come through for each other the way LR time came through for Fabian. We cannot be denied the joys of ownership because the dealerships are just money focused.

There are anti drain back valves in the system so it is not on every start the oil needs to find its way from the sump all the way up to and through the system.

@@Muppet_Interfector Yes you are correct but only I believe within reason, it's only in the oil filter housing from my understanding. The oil will still drain out the galleries through the bearings and gravity will drop it back out the oil pump this is why I now run 10W 40. No expert on these engines so stand to be corrected. I rebuild classic 6 cylinder Japanese motorcycle engines for a living so just going on what I see on the design of the TDV6 as I see it.

The Citroen version uses 10w 40 as far as I know. Christian

@@caryknapton7233 sounds like you have a good experience base. I thought that an electric oil pump to prime the system before spinning the engine would be a good way to get around the possibility of a start without lubricant in critical areas. Obviously no one in the auto industry thinks it is necessary. In the majority of cases I guess they are justified by the longevity of their engines. It is a pity when an otherwise good engine spins a bearing. I think that there is more than just lubrication going in in the case of these engines. I suspect that making the engine so compact has resulted in a crankshaft that is a little flimsy and perhaps insufficient bearing surface. All just speculation on my behalf as I have no information other than what appears to be numerous failures to rely on.

@@Muppet_Interfector The Lion engine is no different than any other engine, lack of lubrication results in spun bearings and I have dealt with many of theses but never on the TDV6. As Christian highlighted once the shell bearings twist by a few degrees it cuts off the oil supply and the engine is doomed to catastrophic failure as unfortunately Fabien discovered. Hydrodynamic lubrication acts as a high pressure pump on the bearing itself but requires oil to be on constant supply especially on start up, the white metal alloy is designed to deal with this but only to a certain limit. Short journeys, delayed oil pressure results in accelerated wear, the 5W-30 oil cannot be sustained within the bearing after many cold starts, so wear is further accelerated that's why I have moved to 10W 40 as a precaution. I know of a Disco 3 that has done over 1 million miles (1.6 million KMs) in the UK it was used for vehicle deliveries so was towing a trailer with a vehicle in tow😱. I think the first engine expired around 500kkms.

😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

Is a mirror and tweezers job. I wish it would be more like a hammer and monkey wrench job. Christian

@@Vera_and_Christian Exactly! The ones I did were hammer jobs 😂

That is the way to go 😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

😅👍 Thanks 🙋‍♀️ Vera

😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera

Don't be stressed and enjoy your car. Just make sure you are doing your part in keeping it running for the long run and be sensitve to anything not normal. Getting a OBDii tool is also really helpful in keeping you sane while driving a Discovery. 😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

Just make sure that you spoil it with oil changes, I’ve done mine every 5k from new, now at 200k, oil pump and belt upgrade fitted at 100k about to repeat the same exercise again, look after it and it will look after you. Worst and least reliable cars Ive ever owned, a Toyota followed by a BMW !

@@Vera_and_Christian I did not even registered the car yet, but the diagnostic tool just arrived and already has its fixed place in my "new" second hand D4 :)

@@leeloo21231234 😅👍 🙋‍♀️ Vera

@@Vera_and_Christian Hi Vera, what's your OBII tool brand an model? Thanks, regards from Chile!

😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

Yeah, but only if the bike has no brakes, like Philipps BMX. 😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

Just don't think about it 😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

😅👍 we have a link to our paypal account in the channel info. Since we are doing all the work and ordering parts and tools needed for this repair, any help is more than welcomed. 🙋‍♀️ Vera

And some NI people.

He would be screwed without me. 😀👍🙋‍♀️Vera

@@Vera_and_Christian and he knows it!

@@iandonkin6762 😅👍Yes he does. 🙋‍♀Vera

😃👍🙋‍♀️Vera