Is This The End Of Capitalism? | Answers With Joe 

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* They *should* be employed by the people.

The problem is is all the politicians are only in this for their own gains not ours

2nd good sir and well said

I think is more easier to go over the speed of light than to do this

Poverty is relative though. The poorest person in the US is still better off than poor people in Socialist countries. Been there myself so...

it's not though. one of the arguments made is that poor people are going to eat bad because they don't have the money to buy healthy foods therefore they will have higher medical expenses down the road. well a bag of apples and a glass of water are cheaper than a bag of cheetos and a mt. dew.

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@@mfntonberry It kind of is, but not for the reasons OP suspects. When you're poor the taxation that you're forced to pay out of your paycheck and on goods and services hurts you more than someone middle class or above. That extra few dollars you pay on groceries hurts you more if you have less dollars to spend overall, that extra few dollars could be the difference between another good meal or having to starve it out for a day or two.

Infinity Dragon And what socialist country would that be?

The Won Percent!

If youre afraid of the government, be even more weary of the ppl above the government

​@@PhsychoSomatic But those people are the government. Not government itself.

@@Noxturno_ you contradicted your own statement. They are not officially the government. They are illegal entities assuming the role of government you could say. A distinction needs to be made when pointing fingers obviously

​@@Noxturno_Most of those people are working, albeit indirectly, in the interest of people with more zeros in their bank accounts than your typical gas station attendant.

Not to mention intellectual property is also a monopoly.

Put simply every brand should be broken off and given a new board of directors (at least one director representing the workers)

as a socialist that's very true and socialism is the solution but democratic socialism is something amazing that not everyone realizes

also the companys have realised by working with their competetiors they can price gouge more people and make more money, a bigger pie for everyone... well not everety one but the corporations

At least in monopoly there is a sort of basic income

and you know how that ends - flipping the board in rage

It's especially hilarious because the game was originally invented as a teaching method for how capitalism, and the landlord property system in particular, eventually lead to poverty for everyone except a select few

Dustin lance black

Things were far worse in the late 1800s before regulations.

We've all seen Star Trek VI, but thanks anyway.

@@casbyness I haven't, you inconsiderate, star trek loving, "death by teleportation disintegration", fanboy. : )

The French word for 'shoe' is 'chaussure.' Sabot is the French word for 'tub.'

@@WmSrite-pi8ck That may be true, but sabots were also a real thing. They were work shoes used in France, Italy, Belgium etc around the 16th-19th century. They're big and cheap wooden clogs for poor peasants and the story of them being the origin of the term 'sabotage' is generally agreed to have happened when workers used their sabots to damage railway equipment in the early 1900s.

@@casbyness The connection to sabots is clear, but not that the sabots were actually used for the sabotage, just that they were worn by the workers in question. (I'm not saying there aren't _some_ historians who believe the sabot-throwing story).

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@@C3Think Thank you, we should do all we can to make that happen.

Politicians and judges.

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@Kurt Barryman To be fair, the Bolshevik Revolution happened like over 100 years ago

That because capitalism is a religion to right wingers and religious types are very touchy about reality talk.

@@Vlasko60, and socialism isnt a religion based on everyone being equally poor?

@@archdukefranzferdinand567 he's talking about the riots

Only in the US...

Facts. Just ask the Spartans lmao

A dangerously broad assertion, don't you think? I'll leave you to exercise your mind to think of ways such bits of bumper sticker wisdom taken as sage advice could have disastrous consequences.

@@lifeinsaltlakecity4001 perhaps, but also consider the following: Change itself can be good or bad, there’s sometime no telling. However, if one is dogmatic about not wanting to, that leaves no room for options that could be beneficial.

@@Rairyuujin unless the change in question inherently represents a net loss for the person embracing said dogma. Therein lies a small measure of the dangers of the tyrannous state, that it purports to have the authority to deign to dictate to masses of disparate peoples with differing goals and subjective views what is best for them. The state and its wise, fearless leaders and supporters are full of bumper sticker wisdom about how you and I ought to be living. A one-size-fits-all prescription for living, backed by the threat of death for non-compliance. Historically, things end badly for those who dissent. And I dissent, sir.

Religion should take note... But it refuses to admit it is not perfect.

We don't need a class of capitalist owners anymore than we need a hole in the head. UBI is a fraud as it is a proposal to save capitalism. Not enough work than a cut in hours with no cut in pay to spread the work around. None of theses utopia libertarian proposals have a snowballs chance in hell of success since they have no way of coming to fruition without the good graces of the ruling capitalist class. The capitalists classes need to be removed from power as they are both incompetent and destructive to the world system of production. We the working class organized into trade unions and with a political party of our own are the only ones capable of doing that. Trump and Yang Wang can't do it for us.

@T hddh That's not depressing, it don't matter when the last time he had a gf was. What is sad an depressing is trying to put someone who you don't know down, for no reason, making it even worse there talking about how there going threw a hard time with w/e there going threw an you feel the need to make them feel worse. So no I feel pitty an saddness for you an hope you can find peace within yourself to where you don't need to hurt others to make yourself feel better.

Bro, I hope your referring to the pandemic an jus have lack of human contact for that reason but don't listen to this other asshat. Hang in there. An keep your head up. Life can always get better.

Jonathan Van Duzee you sure that wasn’t just a bad earth/ground in your phone charger? Could have been a small electric shock :)

Yea

eh yeah. i got plants for company 🌱

Because a certain generation didn’t focus more on retirement than relying on ssi

@@NoddinOff. did you miss the under 50 part of that comment?

@@michaelo5665 do you know how much tax money is spent on social security? That has a large impact on how much taxes you pay. Regardless historical working hours are down.

@@NoddinOff. actually I do and it happens to pale in comparison to other parts of our budget but thanks for ignoring the meat of my comment in order to hold up yet another strawman.

@@NoddinOff. in fact in many states it is the government PERs system (a form of retirement) that's creating the biggest hurdles for battling the deficit.

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The thing is, he's wrong, no one was just blind and decided to follow, there were no other choices, capitalism in itself is designed to slowly strangle out the middle class

@@capo_di_capi Not unless you infer such intent, which is like inferring that "medicine is designed to harm people".

try that with science laws if you truly mean it, ... scientist dare to state something is impossible when they know only a little of what actually exist in the universe

sad to say, but, i personally don't believe there is enough "non-sheeple" to accomplish this, yes, it's the best way, only thing stopping it is greed and that human trait will not shift,,,,,,

haha.. and you hear the endless loop "..sociali... lie.. lie.. lie.. lie.. .. "

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Socialism crashed the inter tube

@@user98xp RU-vid cannot stand not being the kings and queens of old. All the politicians want to revive the medieval ages where the rich are rich and poor are kicked like dogs.

Great post. (Reimiel)

The workings of the capitalist profit system are such that it leads to both war, fascism and revolution. Capitalism is based in the nation state and those nation states can't avoid going into Imperialist war.

as a socialist, I didn't become one instantly but I became one because of what it could do for humanity and such. It values equality, better health even free health care, better services, etc. If you are curious to learn more I would ask you to look at the YTber second thought which makes amazing content on capitalism and how it affects our society and how socialism is our solution. Honestly, you don't have to be a socialist but if you do agree with the things that socialism is trying to achieve than we know things have to change.

@koiyujo1543 I like to refer to myself as a social capitalist. Something like a Social Democrat but I believe that capitalism is only a system that can work if it is, in fact, regulated by the government, which is then accountable to the people. I think calling assistant my betta social democracy is okay, but I think calling it a social capitalism is probably more accurate and less stigmatizing unfortunately, in this country we don't practice any of that, we practice government-supported capitalism in that they socialize their losses but they privatized their games, and the government that is meant to represent the people, ends up representing the best interest of the capitalist instead. We are obviously tilting heavily toward a failure in the system as a result of unfairly prioritizing the needs of Industry over the needs of those pain for all the industry, which is stupid and short-sighted way to look at an economic society, and oddly enough seems to be completely lost on all of the most wealthy people in the country which inherently belies the idea that it's a meritocracy. I don't have a problem with socialism, I know how to read, but it's been falsely created with Communism for so long that most people in this country don't have enough knowledge about it to recognize how it's being manipulated against them. Hell most of them don't even realize that we live in a social democracy already. My favorite is when people who work for the government yell about how they'll never let socialism into their country. SMH

Sunamer Z did you even watch the video? Taking someone’s quote out of context when he wasn’t suggesting anything within the realm of communism like that I doubt it. He was suggesting that we alter the structure of capitalism much the same way Theodore Roosevelt did by signing the “Square Deal” please just listen to others and know your own history first my friend, this was just an acknowledgement of the fact that capitalism has evolved and grown since the 1800s and we need to improve our system for the current age

Dogmatic refusal to change is a failing strategy - solid explanation for the ever increasing number of non religious people in the world.

​@Sunamer ZSounds like someone is dogmatic. It's not a binary...there are steps. Runaway capitalism doesn't work, full blown communism doesn't work. Ideally, a capitalist society should provide and help create social programs to raise people up. With social programs, the people have more means to fuel the capitalist machine, society in balance. Those who vilify all socialism often demonstrate a struggle with compassion and tend to be selfish, elitist, fear mongering capitalists; the corporate cabals and the people they pay and manipulate.

​@Sunamer Z I'm really not sure where you were going with this statement. But it comes off as you comparing a need to fix the economy to Socialism which is in no way what was suggested. It was a really dumb thing to say.. especially with what's going on in the US atm. =/ Education isn't evil... neither is common sense.

@Sunamer Z What dogma do you think marxists have?

Exactly. Socialism is democracy applied to the economy.

@James Smith Socialism literally the idea that workers should democratically control their workplaces, and has nothing to do with any government; in fact communism is the idea of a socialist economy without any form of traditional state, basically no government as you would probably understand it. I pretty sure you didn't try to argue against the actually ideas, because you got nothing. Oh and the old "you just want free stuff"; I know you mad bro, because the system you want to defend is not a good one and people are waking up to that.

@James Smith I know basically no one is actually educated on political philosophy, so I never shocked people have no concept of left vs. right political spectrum. To explain in the simplest turns the political spectrum is about hierarchies where to the left is fewer hierarchy while to right is more hierarchy. There are no political philosophies regarding the proper size of government, because that would retarded. Capitalism as a system creates power hierarchies in economies, which literally is what leads to monopolies; it is not anything else. Citizens through organized political power can make demands of capitalists, but consumers on the other hand have no real power; voting with your wallet is just a bad joke.

@James Smith Wow, nothing is more convincing than a wall of demented ramblings. The old "government = always bad" is only convincing to the smoothest of brains. Governments are tools and like a hammer are no more evil than the manner in which they are used. If you cannot imagine a well functioning government, that is a personal failing. Worker cooperatives are a form of socialism and require no government intervention for their creation. Democracy refers to the idea of everyone having a voice. A citizen has a voice, a socialist work in a socialist economy has a voice, while a consumer has none. Voting with ones wallet is action of pitiful being stripped of any voice, forced to beg for treats from their capitalist masters. Again you have failed to argue against socialism, the concept of workers democratically controlling their workplaces.

@James Smith A strawman argument refers to when one creates a position and argues against their created position rather than any real position held. Or to connect the dots, you keep arguing against positions no one holds. Again, you have nothing. You have failed to make an argument against socialism.

This is the plot of iRobot isn't it?

@Thomas Chrombly How is that a "maybe"? If everyone is unemployed, everyone will make $0. It's basically Communism

Nobody born as working class and no working class people want to remain as working class for entire life.

In his video on future robots. He did say that the origin of the term Robots came from the serfs that made up the working class during the industrial revolution...

@Thomas Chrombly Exactly, so robot communism would work

How ya feeling now?

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so, are you poor now? I've heard that going to the doctor in the u.s. bankrupts everyone because of capitalism

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I could have lived my whole life without knowing that

I was wiping. How do you think I feel? ;-)

@Hooda the Antagonist. How will we achieve that if people shouting for equality, take people's jobs and lives because of there religion, race, and occupation.

@@drewtastic2a763 basically need one unifying goal to work towards that a majority of people want, can't move forwards if everyone is taking the off-ramp ideas

why dont you become a boss then?

@Hooda the Antagonist damn straight comrade

@@ivanliu2581 you understand for the VAST majority of Americans that's simply not feasible right? And to what end? When you become the boss you're just becoming what you hated, another labor exploiting member of the owner class

I mean, individual mileage definitely varies. But yes, most agrarian workers a thousand years ago worked less than the average worker today.

Ha ha haaaa! But seriously, my condolences.

That must be tough

Missing element, Joe always adds some humor to lighten things up & I wish that could have become part of it, good one.

Divorce papers to follow....

I hope you said it was an experimental kind of virtual porn, easier to explain...

I completely agree! The time just flew by and I learned a lot. Thank you, Joe!🙏 Excellent video! 😊💗

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Economics is a very interesting and rich field. Heavily rooted in mathematics and philosophy. However modern economics is a pretty different animal than during the times of Smith and Marx.

dragosus Are you busy sorting because there are many great ones? Our real danger is the 2020 scheme going into public schools to brainwash our children. We are getting too close to the end of the book of How Rome Fell. America has great potential to soar and great potential to collapse. Unions that helped in the past are hurting us now.

@@stevenrofe6195 I was making joke for the medieval part of the video, calm down

Antifa & BLM: money bad Normies: ok, what should we do with it then? Antifa & BLM: Gimmie Bail money.

Saying the Church says money bad is a misrepresentation of the Christian faith. The bible never says money is bad. Heck it even recommends strategies of how to manage it and invest it. What the bible says is The "love of money" is bad, meaning Greed. This is because if you love money too much it becomes your God and then you loose sight of the more important things in life.

@@justk.d3706 I dunno, the Catholic church used to be pretty greedy, which was the point of the joke.

Unoriginal

Alien invasion resulting in human enslavement finna happen next month

What could possibly go wrong in only 3 more months? /s

Lack of bottom level wages in last 40 years really hurting. And once self driving replaces commercial drivers. Better small scale robots cheaper. UBI going have to happen if they want keep capitalism, or people will get out the pick forks. yang was really best thing happen to Dems this election and party trying to ingore him.

@@Sinnehh I agree about Yang. I'm not at all happy with the current ballot we're seeing. Last term, I was hoping for Bernie. The lower class really needs more help, we can't keep America going at this rate.

Sounds like the system you live under is failing you... whatever that may be. But, considering you're living on the poverty line, have to pay $113 for generic meds, are worried about medical insurance, AND have stable access to internet, I'd say you're in the USA. Far be it from me that with all those things, it's so close to living under Fascism than Capitalism. Sorry for the struggles you must be having right now.

@@braegrimes8870 You're right, and thanks for your sympathy. The fact that so many more privileged people around me are toting this as the greatest nation in the world is a sheer embarrassment. Honestly, when I speak to people from other countries, I tend not to tell them that I'm from the U.S. I'm ashamed of my country, but have no idea how to change any of it. Which is insane, considering that democracy is what we pride ourselves in the most. I know that our nation is generally better off than many others, but it doesn't make my own everyday struggle any easier. In fact, it leaves me feeling inferior and guilty for not utilizing "the American dream."

@@MadamFoogie unfortunately thats an inbuilt element of the system. If youre not piloting your second yacht you feel guilt and like s failure. You need to free yourself mentally of those false beliefs. The working class is not a lower class. The working class are the honourable class. Their efforts keep society and economy afloat and alive. The parasitical classes of the uber wealthy are the true lower class. They are like pimps living off immoral earnings. My 2 cents

You can thank the government for that.

Change doesn't happen until it needs to happen. The riots occurring this year are clues to the government that _something_ needs to change so you can bet your ass that lobbyist are lining up to tell them what needs to change. That's a problem as lobbyists are generally company representatives and don't have the interests of the average individual in mind. Unfortunately the cycle repeats itself until the culture that causes this changes. Any change to culture takes around 2 generations to change. You'll see noticeable change when millennial are in the position baby boomers are today.

Nor will we, there is no practical way given today's technologies.

The bottom 40% pay zero in taxes. The top 4% give (not taken)over 85% of charitable donations.

@@BassenGaming No, it is the government's fault. They interefered in the market, making it possible for lobbyists to push for such policies. We need to do away with all our "socialist" policies.

Yes, this!

I think his way to approach the subject was the best I've seen. The humility to put his opinion down so to care for the dogmatic viewer was a teaching of its own. I'll use it in future debates myself.

William Swenson what’s bout how there’s socialism for the rich.. like the elites and the wealthy

omg this was so well written, hard agree.

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I agree. I am a baby boomer. I hear people bitch about millenials today, but they don't realize that millenials grew up watching both parent's and grandparent's working their ass's off to only have to keep working in their 70's and still not own any thing. So what do millenials have to look forward to?

@@davidgraylord5977 as a gen z’r I’m just awaiting the revolution at this point

Well I am a millennial and getting tired of this thing. yeah literally i wanna dropout and trade stocks and forex

@@davidgraylord5977 I was one of the lucky ones, I went into active military service at 18 (2006), saw bitcoin as a futures... and now im sitting on several hundred grand, with a military retirement. I dont need to work but im going to school fulltime for a masters degree in cybersec. I can buy a house outright in most states... but heck... i feel like the 1% of my generation.

I was a lucky one. Im gen z and i didnt go to college so i didnt get saddled with debt. Got a decent warehouse job and i bought my house last year at 23

Market Socialism and Social Democracy have arisen out of pragmatic compromise between the interests of industry and the interests of the people. Now I dont think either of these systems are perfect, but they present how neolib capitalism as shown in the US and most of the Americas is a very inefficient system that will ultimately leave industry unhappy with its lack ability to adapt due to monopolies and a weak centeal government (weak regulation) and people unhappy due rising inequality and class conflict. With State Socialism (i.e. USSR before Gorbechov burned the system and Russia as a whole with it) there will be industry unhappy with slow progress due to extreme level of social support for people, and people frustrated with lack of industrial progress and a very rigid centralized system that cant adapt to their specific community and personal needs and desires. Allowing industry to progress and people to have more freedom for themselves and their community is why socialist states like China and Vietnam and Capitalist states like Japan and Sweden have more stability and economic progress than they otherwise would under extreme economic policies, imo. Then again Im just a dumb youtube commenter

Right? It's like free speech is good until they say something you don't agree with.

@@thomaswenzel1393 "I'm all for free speech *BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT"*

Agreed. There is SO MUCH personal sensitivity around these issues, especially for Americans over 40. Yet, those of us who watched all the factory jobs "disappear" in the eighties and nineties ought to be able to handle the truth. And anyone who refuses to see the end of the Industrial Revolution for what IT IS, needs to go read a book.

@@delirium1643 free speech means that you should get a platform, not that people have to agree with you... Are "socialists" getting banned or arrested for their views?

Aldous Huxley how could they, they run just about all forms of media and universities at this point.

US tax laws are so complex our tax lawyers dont understand them.

If I recall correctly, Norway has a pretty hefty oil fund right? (Purely civil discussion).

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@@haydenarchambault2927 Yes, they do. because they banked it.

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He's talking about the early 20th century. He even went out of his way to show the disparity difference between J.P. Morgan and Jeff Bezos. We broke those monopolies up. We still do have the issue today, but it's not like it was.

@@carlonryan180 ever heard of the coca-cola beverage company? the amazon group? nestle food group? the list goes on and on

@@ollythainrap They're nothing on Standard Oil or the monopolies of those days, or even a little bit later. United Fruit literally took over a whole country.

So they had enough money for foot ware to be expendable!!!!!

@@Diggnuts lots of trees around to make new shoes

This reminds me of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.

@@Diggnuts I don't think the workers cared.

That actually IS an interesting fact! Thank you!

Mark, this is your boss. You're fired and are now free to seek benefits elsewhere. Congratulations.

@W.A M.P See, Mark believes that risking capital (what employers do) and accepting compensation in exchange for time and labor (what employees do) are the same thing. More precisely, if he's not smart enough to take care of himself...he's probably not smart enough to care of me either. Which is why I fired him.

@W.A M.P First, I'm not sure why you think I feel entitled. I am asking only for job security, when I've spent years working for the company. I'm not asking for money to be dumped on me, and I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that the things I was told were part of my compensation package upon hire should remain as such. My company was in no financial danger at all, as I stated they have been profitable since inception, nearly 40 years ago. The company had 13000 staff, and was purchased by a company with something very similar. Several of the points you make sound like you're jaded from your bad experiences owning a business, and at the same time, you make the point that you were the only one to absorb any risk, as is how it works when you own a business. It is shortsighted to assume that I have no concept of what the day to day requirements are for running a business just because I don't run one of my own. I personally have never owned a business, though I helped my father run his for a few years. He has told me on many occasions that if he had it to do over again, he wouldn't. And he isn't the only one I've known to say that. But of course, I wasn't talking about a small business to begin with. I'm talking about a large, multi-national corporation that generated hundred of millions of dollars in annual revenue. As Joe's point goes, capitalism in and of itself isn't the issue, but the extreme version we see today where all that matters seems to be maximizing profit at the expense of just about everything else is. Your comment about how employees aren't individually important just proves that point. Each of those people who lose their job have a life and possible a family that are relying on them. And replacing a salary isn't an easy task when every company wants to pay you the minimum they can get away with. One cannot equate a job at one company as the a job at another. Sure, if I lose my job I can probably find a job quickly, but it wouldn't be earning nearly what I make right now. You may not be negatively impacted by simply replacing them with another person, probably at a lower wage and maybe in another country - but people matter. Your attitude about them seems to suggest that you don't view employees as people, and THAT is the issue with late stage capitalism. You comment that " for years, just to benefit one's enormous pile of stock shares provides nothing for anyone but oneself (already a multi-millionaire). How much is enough?

So you would rather the workers control it? sounds like communism to me

@@maryolee8303 Where did I say that?

Same. "Klar, immer wieder gerne, lass krachen" also gave the rest to me xD

Für jemanden der beide Sprachen versteht war das echt lustig

I'm not great at German but I was able to gist out the convo even though I haven't touched it in like a year. Is this what being bilingual feels like all the time?

@@Nevarek_ are you Not bilingual ?

LOL!🤣Es bringt mich zum Lachen, wenn meine amerikanischen Landsleute denken, dass sie wissen, was für den Rest der Welt am besten ist und was für dieses Land am besten ist. Ich denke, dieser Kerl ist ein Nächtriges.

Same. Thanks, Joe. ❤️

Time to hug you and then sneak a Dill pickle with googly eyes on it into your pocket...

That was my first RU-vid hug ever.

@@georhayy and it felt like my first hug ever

Hugs should be the new world’s currency.

Yeah, whence on Earth came that idea?

Yeah. The red scare here brought TONS of propaganda with it. That is why people down here started mixing it up. Now, we have the"Tea" party. It was started and funded by the oil industry's (up until recently) biggest RepubliKKKan party donors. They were tricked into thinking that our government takes to much taxes from us citizens, which WOULD be true, if the government didn't spend more than half of all discretionary spending. Anyway, they wanted to pay less taxes and that made it easier for the tax cuts Trump and the Republikkkan party forced through. The tea party people may pay slightly less, but Trump's stupid tariffs are a tax.

Yeah calling something capitalist in the real world implies that its greedy, nihilistic and exploitative. Its a slur where im from

@@PennyDreadful1 I'm curious, whence are you?

@@xCorvus7x Scandinavian.

Begs to question if reform is even needed, or if personal accountability for actions and decisions are taken into account. Capitalism requires that you be a contributor to the system, or you are a casualty of it. Does that make you a victim of the system or you choices? Much of what is put off on others is really a personal choice in how you conduct yourself, your business, and your overall life goals. If your content living in a shack, then so be it. I don’t understand why people settle for this, but then again you are free to be a ‘victim’ of yourself at anytime...

Long Wilderness Walks would you make the same argument about laborers during the Great Depression, or during the gilded age? Why or why not?

@@ForzaJersey eventually the deceptions of the elite will be exposed and they will be massacred. Numerous billionaires have already set up boltholes around the world in places like New Zealand and kept their private jets fully fueled and on standby.

@@ForzaJersey BLM and Antifa are simple misdirections created by the Powerful to distract common folk from the real problems. That's why nobody takes them seriously. They aren't *meant* to be serious threats.

@@longwildernesswalks - There are people who exist who are unable to account for their own actions. A LOT of people, in fact. Some are mentally incapacitated from birth or otherwise, some are physically incapacitated from birth or otherwise, some are just older people with dementia, parkinson's, alzheimer's, etc. But also, who determines what contributes what to society? For instance, service work (retail, customer service, food service, etc.) is probably one of the most important contributing jobs, but it pays horribly. If you own a distributing warehouse for trading cards, something far less important, you probably make a crapton more than that. Poor examples on my part, maybe, but you could find hundreds more, including some voluntary work that contributes a ton, is considered necessary even, and doesn't pay a cent because it's not profitable. Don't get me wrong, though. I'm with you on the idea that, for society to run, people need to contribute to it. And for people to contribute, they need an incentive. I'm just against the idea that _everyone_ is needed for this, that the best incentive is money, or that incentive for contribution = not being penalized for not contributing. Balance can be struck through incentive alone.

But ideologies are literally just the philosophical frameworks for devising solutions. Neoliberalism is an ideology too.

We have been indoctrinated... to believe there's a viable alternative to capitalism. There isn't. The only countries with successful 'socialist' or 'communist' systems (e.g. China, and some would say Sweden) are ones that learned (the hard way) to embrace capitalist principles. All wealth comes through capitalism. The best any other economic system can do is redistribute the wealth that capitalism created, which undermines the further creation of wealth.

@@RatZapTshirt nobody disagrees when people say they want democratic socialism their talking about giving workers more choices and redistribution of wealth to build safety nets not completely change the free Market just more restrictions

​@@danielmoreno-gama5973 If that were actually the case I wouldn't have a problem. A 'free market with a social safety net' would be fine by me (preferably a UBI). But what we get instead as 'democratic socialism' is more and more of those "restrictions" you mention. They've been accumulating for over a century. The banking system has been nationalized, the currency demonetized, etc. We no longer HAVE a free market. That's the only reason we even NEED a safety net now. We're eating the goose that lays the golden eggs, which is the flaw of traditional socialism.

@@degamispoudegamis I really wish the US wouldn't do that, because It gives every socialist government in the world a scapegoat to blame for their own failures. Socialism is so shitty it can't function without a credible scapegoat.

@@degamispoudegamis Oh, so you know something I don't, but should? Please enlighten me, master. Right now I'm thinking you probably have no argument but just wanted to have the last word anyway. Try again.

Let's compare levels of poverty, education and social mobility and see which approach fares better.

@@MrGonzonator thats an excellent idea. Compare those factors in the Netherlands or Germany to the USA and you come to the conclusion that people in the Netherlands or Germany have it better in all of those statistics.

@@mistrants2745 it _is_ an excellent basis for comparison :) If you count, or read a graph. (ref OP for lack of education in the US)

I agree. Americans have been propagandised for the past century to be afraid of cooperation. They are taught to fear socialism because the well being of people is in conflict with the greed of corporations. When your country's government is clearly wholly owned by corporations, when an HMOs profits are more important than your life, when dropping bombs and putting people in prison is profitable, your in denial about how great your system is

@@MrGonzonator That comparison wont do any good to the states. just put US to shame. specially when you factor things like paid maternity leave, paid vacations, healthcare, and so forth

​@Paradoxical Nightmare In a course of centuries/milleniums, we haven´t changed much. Wars were declared at a whim of the current emperor. But violence in general has come drastically down and it is (in western world at least) almost impossible to declare a war against another nation. While we still are fairly similar to ancient Greeks in many ways, attitudes have changed significantly in the last few decades. And they will, but it will still be a slow process, since ppl are slow to change.

@Paradoxical Nightmare I do realize that. They are still fighting in Africa. And there are still bombings in middle east. I´m not saying that there isn´t wars or violence. I am 41, when I was in school, my map had eastern and western Germany. And (naturally) Soviet Union. But in general, we are still living in the least violent era ever. That was the point I was trying to make.

Yes, let’s evolve past basic human rights like property rights, let’s get rid off the right to speech as well, too many idiots blathering their mouths.

@Charles Jones tbf tho I'm not suggesting that the only way to "evolve" is into socialism. Its probably important to note that evolution is a gradual process of trial and error in order to refine and improve. Revolution however is an entire upheaval. I think the US has a big fear of a socialist upheaval and revolution of their capitalist society. But i don't actually think thats what I or the video was getting at. If we take nature as an example of how to prosper in any condition its very rare to see a plant or animal devolve; so the whole idea of "make America great again", harkening back to a bygone era doesn't make any sense to me. To me that slogan suggests a devolution back to the 60s/70s. But the whole playing field was different back then. Im not saying they were bad times, they were just of their time. This is a new time. We need to update systems to cope with fresh problems. No hate tho man. Just having a civil discussion 😉

@Paradoxical Nightmare yeah man thats what I'm saying. We haven't stopped evolving by any stretch of the imagination. So if we stay rigidly attached to dogma and policies which were created in eras long-gone, we're dead in the water! If we want to one day become a teir 3 civ I think we would need to update our systems beyond those set up in the 1960s 😂 ya dig? But yeah no hate man, just good to discuss

i just did the math, and i make essentially the same. FML.

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Evan Wilkinson what’s the math for it

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@@Kj16V TIL = today I learned

Jo Dearwester I needed that hug today! :D

@@mebreevee1997 Hugs from. Yeah I needed it too. I have a "FREE HUGS" t-shirt but since there's a pandemic going on I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to wear that shirt again.

You now have covid.

Dan Cobb Oh thats sad

Shadow Prince Don’t give up hope. You can always sharpie in “Free in spirit hugs.”

Yeah, the title was a question, not an answer, please note the question mark.

eToro adds are so cancerous I sold communism to a few people by saying under communism eToro wont exist.

@philajfran except there is unless you think human civilisation exists to cause humans suffering. The problem is when the free market interacts with unfree markets like China's. It forces us to compete with government industries that can drop their prices to below break-even for a decade to run us into the ground and then price gouge our entire economy.

@@DSiren Yes, but it is amazing how quickly supply chains can be altered, given the will and leadership to do so. We now are the world's largest manufacturer of ventilators; even Ford is making them!!

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Excellent

Rufus would be proud.

Party on, dude.

You have a smart kid!

You give Joe a chocolate bar. He has a good head on his shoulders

Please have him also hear the other side.. Listen to Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell. I would argue Capitalism actually works to empower society. As backwards as it can seem, "social good" is indeed the by-product of capitalism. Consumers "vote" every day with their money. We as society choose which services, goods, and companies deserve our almighty dollar. Do we want a greener future? Then we show it with our wallets, we buy EVs and punish companies making gas guzzlers. Can government help? Yes to a degree. But we have to be truly sure that the anecdote is not worse than the disease - as it so often is.

@@wilethecoyote If we lived in a pure capitalistic society, perhaps capitalism would actually empower society. But since we have welfare capitalism that save companies that wouldn't survive if it weren't for a bail out (or whatever). Hence, those companies are not the "social good" that results from capitalism.

@@ThroughMeToYouPuppetry I actually agree with you. The government and their perverse involvement within industry is almost always the one to blame. Not capitalism. My fear is for the viewers of this that use it to warm up to socialism. We cant have the government decide what "social good" is best for us. We must decide.

we christians have been doing for over 3000 years. were still here and stronger then ever

@@originsdecoded3508 Riggght.. because Christianity today is just like it was then... Right?

@@corymills9171 political and living circumstances have changed. I know what your trying to get at. But Our faith in one true god has never changed. starting with the jews, to the catholics, to the christians. theirs but one true God and that is eternal truth never unchanging in our faith and doctrine. so yeah........ his name is Jehova.

@@originsdecoded3508 There hasn't been a true dogmatic refusal to change. in fact, Christianity has branched into many denominations.

Unless you are already doing the right thing... haha

Nice interpretation skills Felix. Big fan of both of you !

Nice crossover :)

Couldn't agree more, friend. I've been trying to nudge people-in my life and even here online-toward examining this system of ours. The problem isn't that capitalism doesn't work. Look no further than most other developed countries where they have universal healthcare, paid leave/vacation, and all the rest. The biggest problem with capitalism in general is that it incentivizes greed.

I don't know where we are going. But we are certainly going there. Can we make the changes needed in time is the question.

@@thomasridley8675 It's a good question. The question, even. It doesn't seem to be a concern among the highest ranks of either dominant political party though-perhaps because so many are millionaires. It's not unrelated, that's for sure. Anyway, I do think we'll pull through, probably by the skin of our teeth. I am an optimist (as often as possible!), so it's kind of just a hunch. But there are some reasons to be hopeful. Like the overwhelming number of young people who know what the problem is & want to change it. Sorry if that's a bit much, I tend to rant. 😅

@@irighterotica I have too agree. We have too many stuck in the past. And it wasn't too much. ✌️

and you cant MAKE that happen with violent revolution or abolishing the notion of property. theres adapting, and then theres "the great leap forward."

@@cwg9238 modern socialists, who for example want worker cooperatives, are not state socialists (but want the worker to own the means of production). As long as they don't use the state to force it, but build these companies themselves as an alternative, I don't see how "socialism" and capitalism are not compatible. State socialism (authoritarianism) and capitalism are enemies. Modern socialists and capitalists are not

@@aldoushuxley5953 "As long as they don't use the state to force it, but build these companies themselves" well, fair enough. most of the rhetoric i hear is about SEIZING the means of production. what entitles one to just walk into a business and demand some ownership of it? you cant even force me to hire you in the first place. telling people to establish their own means is offensive somehow.

@@cwg9238 Yes, those people are stupid. State socialism/stalinism/maoism is one of the most evil ideologies to ever exist. The problem with -isms is however, that people use them to mean different things. Many marxists of today use my definition of a "libertarian" marxism to "fix" issues they see with modern capitalism. They don't like stalinism either. (I am not a marxist, but just had a discussion with someone, who considers themselves a libertarian marxist, and I was confused at first too)

yeah kinda sad you have to do all these reassurances before even start talking about a topic so not everyone is instantly triggered or tunes out. just shows the level of brainwashing even within an audience I would imagine to be more on the rational side of things

Until big brother thinks you are a threat.Then national security will have to come first

Andersen Zheng and that has some merits to it too. Winston Churchill was an authoritarian mfer but he helped get the rest of the world through ww2, he was kicked out of parliament for obvious reasons during peacetime. Sometimes taking away freedoms offers more safety than the amount of free will lost. You have to strike a good balance, and the ability to adapt to new situations

Communism creates freedom of speach. Thats cause under a classless and stateless society, there are by defenition nobody on the top preventing you from speaking out

@@andersenzheng Not just big brother #cancelculture

@@haider9874 show me an example of that? Never happens that way

Most people who are railing against Capitalism, are actually for capitalism. There was the idea that capitalism was evil, like a fire burning everything it touched. It was then argued that fire when properly harnessed in an engine does work. That is when regulated it can power progress. We had our greatest economic growth with that view point. The idea was a mixed economy.

I agree, at least to the extent that large companies should be discouraged from using frivolous law suits to crush smaller companies that can't afford to keep up with the legal fees. One of my business professors told me, "If you develop a small company, and a large company wants to buy you out, take the buyout, or they will just wipe you out." The government, who employs judges, could do something to discourage these malicious practices.

I mean, Adam Smith was against monopolies. So any true Capitalist should be. What's the good of competition if there is none?

Michael-6 you are totally correct

@@abram730 Considering Capitalism has concentrated vast amounts of wealth to the very few, and at its most extreme has created massive class divisions, via liberalism and neo-liberalism, capitalism isn't peachy.