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Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers held MVP Nikola Jokic and the Nuggets to just 46 points in the 2nd half, thanks in large part to a halftime adjustment to the defensive scheme by coach Doc Rivers. This detailed film room analysis breaks down how P.J. Tucker and Embiid slowed down Jokic in their January 28, 2023 game in Philadelphia.
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@ThinkingBasketball
@ThinkingBasketball Год назад
Here are those "roaming" schemes on More Thinking Basketball : Zion (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HubiIi3jVOg.html) and Davis (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BXAT09itZdQ.html)
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 Год назад
Ben Taylor I don’t know if you know Darryl Morey. But if you meet Darryl Morey, tell Morey to either release Montrezz Harrell or trade Montrezz for draft picks to leave cap space to sign Lamarcus Aldridge. I am a 76ers fan and I feel all the 76ers needs is a backup C. Aldridge is the perfect fit that they need. Do everything in your power to let Darryl Morey know to sign Lamarcus Aldridge
@deyantodorov6775
@deyantodorov6775 Год назад
P.J. Tucker has been contributing on a top seed in either conference every season since 2018 and has been an amazing defender
@verward
@verward Год назад
Yes, but that is also a 2-way street. He has constantly being acquired by the best teams. He is a really solid guy to round out your roster.
@terrypanama8004
@terrypanama8004 Год назад
Yeah, an ideal role player, just like Robert Horry, with less luck
@negadelph
@negadelph Год назад
While I think PJ has underperformed on the offensive end, I think he's playing the Ben Simmons role with a twist - he's not the point and he's actually shooting 3's. Jokic was getting the better of Joel in the first half but the second half sealed it. They won a game they normally would have lost in other years. Huge adjustment and kudos to whoever thought of the adjustment.
@p00lboy
@p00lboy Год назад
@@terrypanama8004 your comment before i was here
@kb4231
@kb4231 Год назад
We sure do miss him here in Miami
@njubek769
@njubek769 Год назад
Doc Rivers actually remembered he is coach?! That was great adjustment
@metalsadman
@metalsadman Год назад
ikr
@georgiosyiannakou5537
@georgiosyiannakou5537 Год назад
facts! I don't trust neither him or Harden in the playoffs. Many of Harden's passes were sloppy and when playing against elite defensive teams like Bucks or Celtics you will pay for it. Great game though from Embiid!
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
Can't believe he outplayed malone lol
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
@@georgiosyiannakou5537 harden stats have dipped in the post season and has had countless games where he was horrible. People act like he wasn't bad vs the heat in 2022
@ollytropics1735
@ollytropics1735 Год назад
Bro he's great till game five
@wojciechbalcerzak7395
@wojciechbalcerzak7395 Год назад
The 2-2 zone was really special, you can truly see the mind of a championship coach Glenn Rivers working full time on that play.
@chrilpy
@chrilpy Год назад
It woke up for the first time in 13 years
@jsim519
@jsim519 Год назад
Doc is a terrible coach
@mayfort8573
@mayfort8573 Год назад
@@jsim519 if your team is up 3-1 in the playoffs and doc is your coach, you better be prepared to choke the series
@vikramkrishnan6414
@vikramkrishnan6414 Год назад
And then people say Harden isn't a great defender 😉
@anshkaushik7920
@anshkaushik7920 Год назад
@@vikramkrishnan6414 he’s not wtf he’s arguably the worst defender at his size
@6manYT
@6manYT Год назад
Jokic has historically had some trouble with smaller more physical defenders guarding him, the likes of Draymond, Grant Williams and PJ tucker. He figured out how to score against both Draymond and Grant after their first few matchups but the extra physicality that is allowed when a smaller defender is guarding him seems to throw him off. They're pretty much able to upend him and throw his balance off by using their hands a lot. Will be interesting to see how he adjusts in their next matchup, id expect more faceups and deeper post positions.
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 Год назад
Ayyy make another Jokic video!
@6manYT
@6manYT Год назад
@@kylehowe6761 Hahah yessir working on it.
@chrissullivan6572
@chrissullivan6572 Год назад
Reminds me of Dirk in the GS series. That lower center of gravity and active hands make it tuff sometimes
@beedebawng2556
@beedebawng2556 Год назад
Jokic has trouble with physicality, period. When Dwight Howard was guarding him in the bubble, he couldn't handle it, either.
@guybartlett9587
@guybartlett9587 Год назад
Yes averaging a triple double the league has really been fucking with him! ha ha ha
@JayLoveQueenofBeats
@JayLoveQueenofBeats Год назад
I'm impressed by Doc with this game in particular. He actually made an adjustment during the game! He's got my boys rollin'!
@apples874
@apples874 Год назад
A broken clock is right twice a day
@daddyfuse50
@daddyfuse50 Год назад
Except against the Magic
@hexmark21
@hexmark21 Год назад
Doc implementing in-game adjustments? Has he finally turned a corner?
@sgshumblecrumb6046
@sgshumblecrumb6046 Год назад
Made my heart skip a beat.
@Alex-sq8xm
@Alex-sq8xm Год назад
Someone else must have forced him to do it, there's just no way
@superdestructo
@superdestructo Год назад
It's possible that PJ asked for the assignment
@B_Lo95
@B_Lo95 Год назад
😂😂😂😂 FACTS as a 76er fan I feel like I’m in the twilight zone.
@johnmarkson1998
@johnmarkson1998 Год назад
i mean the 76ers are doing amazing this season. he is probably making ingame adjustments all season. just media narrative wont agkoledge it
@charlesjames1702
@charlesjames1702 Год назад
The ball pressure PJ put on Jokic was great too so he couldn’t just walk into the elbow or make easy face up passes
@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283
he was litteraly fouling him the entire game same thing green did in the last playoffs thats why he had issues on his lower back
@domingow.17
@domingow.17 Год назад
This always bothered me why teams just let jokic trot up the court without pressure. Any other elite playmaker would see at least a body by the time they reached half court.
@charlesjames1702
@charlesjames1702 Год назад
@@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283 👍🏾ok Buddy
@AtmosphericAtmosphere
@AtmosphericAtmosphere Год назад
It is just one game...on the road...came after 5 strait triple doubles...so you think you are onto something?
@charlesjames1702
@charlesjames1702 Год назад
@@AtmosphericAtmosphere ain’t that big of a deal bro. No need for excuses, no one cares 👍🏾
@thatonedesperateguythatask1880
aaron gordon is putting up efficient numbers this season, 38.9% from three and still the 'weakest shooter', that surprises me alot
@jerrymoody6989
@jerrymoody6989 Год назад
Man the nuggets offense is nuts. Hence why the weakest shooter still at 39% frm 3.
@yellow1431
@yellow1431 Год назад
I think cuz he doesnt shoot them that often he scores in the paint most of the time
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing Год назад
Shooting is more than just raw%’s.
@Steps.To.Sucess
@Steps.To.Sucess Год назад
@@jerrymoody6989 they still lost even though they have great offensive impossible to play jokic in crunch time he is a liability on defense end guards will hunt for him in iso match ups
@leoclassics5313
@leoclassics5313 Год назад
@Francisco Pizarro facts we all know who to leave open when the game is on the line.
@Jenkees7
@Jenkees7 Год назад
06:12 - 06:34 That whole sequence just killed me. It's so fitting, that it's Harden who just sits on the bench as an active player, too.
@Idedu101
@Idedu101 Год назад
Thybulle was supposed to check in but for some reason was just waiting at the scorers table
@kevindevlieger300
@kevindevlieger300 Год назад
The coach his reaction is also hilarious. *"4 players?.. wait a minute".. Looks at bench: "James, get your ass on the floor!!"*
@ThinkingBasketball
@ThinkingBasketball Год назад
I kept cracking up trying to record the voice over.
@DrANashADay
@DrANashADay Год назад
@@ThinkingBasketball 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dimelo58
@dimelo58 Год назад
That 2 2 zone is deadly
@_wael
@_wael Год назад
oh no an elite big in the paint, advanced stat nerds devastated.
@gotseoul123
@gotseoul123 Год назад
Always coming in with the highest quality breakdowns and analysis on RU-vid. Many thanks!
@B_Lo95
@B_Lo95 Год назад
As a 76ers fan the fact doc rivers has been making good decisions feels like I’m in the twilight zone hahaha
@Qub3rs
@Qub3rs Год назад
Love these X's & O's videos... these adjustments that change the game... great video...
@masterbop7885
@masterbop7885 Год назад
Man this channel is a hidden gem. I love watching you break down these games and plays 😁
@ice-coldspear9193
@ice-coldspear9193 Год назад
hidden in plain sight
@ollytropics1735
@ollytropics1735 Год назад
Also I think it'd be interesting to make a video dedicated to role players. Like he top 15 role players for championship teams to look to get. Examples in the league right now would be PJ Tucker, Tyus Jones, Kendrich Williams etc. Also since nba awards and what not have names it'd be cool to see you giveshout out to all time all nba role players like prime time Danny Green
@austingreen1274
@austingreen1274 9 месяцев назад
This is reminiscent of the Rui as the “Joker stopper”. Dude didn’t even break a sweat lol.
@Dnero518
@Dnero518 Год назад
More incredible content. As a lifelong nba fan I still learn so much from your channel. Thanks.
@max4296
@max4296 Год назад
Glad the Nuggs got to experience playing against this sort of tactic in the 2nd half. Lots to learn from. Shouldn't be too tough to counter-strat putting a small on a 2x MVP center.
@swirvithanplatt3743
@swirvithanplatt3743 Год назад
If I were a nuggets fan, I'd be happy to see Jokic and the team get cooked like this every now and then. This game gave them more to learn than any other game this season. It's good to take some tough losses in the regular season and Jokic/Malone are smart enough to counter when it matters most.
@RGates33
@RGates33 Год назад
@@swirvithanplatt3743 24-8-9 is getting cooked these days? Sixers shot 51% from 3, if they shoot their season average of 38.5% they lose by 7. Embiid 47 points plus extremely good shooting probably had a bit more to do with it then PJ Tucker. However I do agree with the premise that some regular season loses can be good for a high achieving team to maintain focus.
@jessefischer7899
@jessefischer7899 Год назад
As a nuggets fan Im glad this game went this way lots of lessons to learn… Philly didn’t learn much they aren’t always going to shoot that well and Embiid can’t shoot 60 percent on 31 shots every game of a 7 game series. This would be an incredible finals matchup
@Fun-mt5qk
@Fun-mt5qk Год назад
@@RGates33 it’s getting cooked when the other guy has nearly double your points and rebounds…
@timholland2129
@timholland2129 Год назад
It is nice because you know Jokic isn’t going to take this without learning. However it is going to hurt his MVP case, even if he doesn’t care about MVP.
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 Год назад
This was a great adjustment and you can tell it bothered Jokic.
@tomsugars566
@tomsugars566 Год назад
everyone is going to try this now guy knows he is in for a hard time
@bruceharding2986
@bruceharding2986 Год назад
@Tom Sugars come on dude they didn't stop jokic they did good job buy jokic just didn't shot and he only missed 4 shots when he did
@AE_2023
@AE_2023 Год назад
he dropped 29 8 7. is that really "stopping" him?
@howdareyouexist
@howdareyouexist Год назад
@@tomsugars566 try and fail lmao
@dwaynecamacho3007
@dwaynecamacho3007 Год назад
Good film analysis as usual - to me, Jokic also didn't do himself any favors against them in the 2nd half by being so passive; there were a number of possessions where it didn't look like he was trying to shoot, including some possessions where he tried to lob it to a wing or even a guard deep in the paint instead of just shooting the floater or 10-12 foot jumper, which is usually money for Jokic; I think more generally, when you got a smaller guy on you, you just can't be so passive like that, because passing out of a mismatch so much is playing right to their defense and the defense having more advantageous matchups against the other 4 players on the court
@richatlarge462
@richatlarge462 Год назад
Very good point. He should have attacked and gone to the stripe for some FTs.
@gomores1
@gomores1 Год назад
He can't really do what he normally does because pj is still strong but pretty nimble too would steal the ball if jokic tried his usual moves
@TreBeL1000
@TreBeL1000 Год назад
Jokic has to shoot on pj. I kno u not supposed to shoot over smaller players but pj too strong and quick hands on perimeter. Jokic would tear him up in the paint but embiid as a help defender prevents that. Gotta shoot
@Gnofg
@Gnofg Год назад
@@TreBeL1000 What a smaller physical player does against all big men who want to dribble is take away their first step. Big guys dribble well against other big men. They don't dribble so well against someone who can steal the ball and beat them too the spot.
@masmirage
@masmirage Год назад
My new favorite channel. Such interesting and detailed breakdowns
@akivagelernter1462
@akivagelernter1462 Год назад
This is a really good video. Well explained 👏
@Blorbifink
@Blorbifink Год назад
Saw this tactic a lot last year watching the Wolves. Teams would defend KAT with a four, and have their 5 play zone on Vanderbilt, with an emphasis on rim protection. But it only works if guys don't make shots. Milwaukee used this against Boston in the playoffs, but Grant Williams made his shots and it cost them.
@Retiredhandle
@Retiredhandle Год назад
6:22 🤣💀 I’m speechless
@jordanw9216
@jordanw9216 Год назад
great analysis...spot on. fun watch too. thanks for posting
@thomasdrew1159
@thomasdrew1159 Год назад
Great video!
@cesarfadul22
@cesarfadul22 Год назад
PJ Tucker has low key become the most important asset in the league. If you have PJ on your roster you're guaranteed a deep run in the playoffs. Crazy. The perfect team player. Dude just happy he can keep adding to his sneaker collection.
@pplRretards
@pplRretards Год назад
I'd put Jae Crowder there along with PJ imo and I gotta believe Suns are asking for a stupid amount for a team to have not grabbed him already smh
@smokeythebearr95
@smokeythebearr95 Год назад
Iguodala is similar -- warriors got to the finals w him, then he went to the Heat and brought them to the finals, back to the warriors and another finals
@terrencesmith1333
@terrencesmith1333 Год назад
Your guaranteed to get out rebounded with PJ out there
@nolandesmond9744
@nolandesmond9744 Год назад
I remember the Celtics having some success implementing this strategy against Denver in the past where Grant Williams would guard Jokic and Robert Williams or Al Horford would protect the paint to stop layups and lobs.
@PeterYangMN
@PeterYangMN Год назад
Yes, I think a lot of teams have been picking up on this recently. MIN beat DEN and held Jokic in check earlier this season with Slo Mo as the primary defender and Gobert as the roamer. And Utah started guarding KAT the same way few years ago with Bogdanovic after KAT lit up Rudy for 7 threes.
@joshuadonald9383
@joshuadonald9383 Год назад
@@PeterYangMN Yea also last year in the playoffs the warriors did well having Draymond guard him.
@AE_2023
@AE_2023 Год назад
The reason it works is bc small players are allowed to foul bigs with no penalty.
@sgshumblecrumb6046
@sgshumblecrumb6046 Год назад
By golly, Doc and PJ coming through for the squad. Big ups to them.
@marissarice3666
@marissarice3666 Год назад
another excellent video!
@racimegacar
@racimegacar Год назад
No worries, Jokic will adapt, u can surprise him once, but not twice...U will see second matchup in Denver. For me here bigger problem was Jokic inactivity, just 11 shots, I hate when he do that. If he hit 31 shots like Embiid, it would be W.
@aidansalerno4895
@aidansalerno4895 Год назад
Unfortunately Jokic and Malone lost us that game, but we just have to get into a good rhythm and I have faith for the rest of the season and beyond
@chriscus3683
@chriscus3683 Год назад
As a Sixers fan that was his biggest problem yesterday , there was multiple times that game he chose to dish it out when he really should’ve took it to the basket. He’s gotta be more aggressive, I’m not complaining but if you’re a Nuggets fan 1 made FG in the 4th quarter is unacceptable.
@racimegacar
@racimegacar Год назад
@@chriscus3683 exactly
@Brmba03
@Brmba03 Год назад
Malone lost that game, he should do the same, put Gordon on Embid and let Jokic rest on def, like Embid did. This way Jokic had to play every posesion on attack and def and Embid could focus mostly on attack.
@chrilpy
@chrilpy Год назад
Doc Rivers made a coaching adjustment for the first time in 15 years 😁
@WITHBEN
@WITHBEN Год назад
as this is my first time watching your vids after seeing on my recommended tons of times. great channel and quick turnaround too
@josipmarasovic2436
@josipmarasovic2436 Год назад
only basketball thing u should watch man. this is basketball in his pure forme
@KD-zw7km
@KD-zw7km Год назад
The Timberwolves also played "spy Rudy" tactic and won the game in Minneapolis
@EthanSchaner
@EthanSchaner Год назад
He even drops early morning bangers!
@lellamas2778
@lellamas2778 Год назад
Love the analysis. You get my sub
@dreamcreationmedia4000
@dreamcreationmedia4000 Год назад
This was very informative. I am a nuggets fan and was very frustrated with this game.
@kausly
@kausly Год назад
I actually really like this type of content, It shows that Harden is still really good and a smart player, and that Embiid still has a lot of potential to show, It also shows how good P.G Tucker IS on defense
@kausly
@kausly Год назад
Is*
@AkbarAli-rl9vo
@AkbarAli-rl9vo Год назад
Looking pretty sillly now
@goodcompanycoffee
@goodcompanycoffee Год назад
Great perspective and analysis on this change to fluster the joker
@mustaphalove8934
@mustaphalove8934 Год назад
& as always Ben, we hope YOU're having....a great *long pause* day🏀
@symphoofficial1726
@symphoofficial1726 Год назад
"I guess we'll never know"
@spagettifork8916
@spagettifork8916 Год назад
PJ is such an underrated defender bro
@metalsadman
@metalsadman Год назад
he isn't really, that's why he's still sought after by contending teams.
@FilledWithDetermination
@FilledWithDetermination Год назад
@@metalsadman Yeah tbf, I guess fans under rate him we just see 37 or however old he is and think bro bros GOTTA be washed and he shows his age out there sometimes but dude honestly I dont know if anybody in the league puts in more effort than Tucker, it may not be obvious at first glance because hes not that athletic by league standard but bro hustles EVERY PLAY.
@fateriddle14
@fateriddle14 Год назад
By who? In fact the only thing people are reminded of PJ is his defense.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Год назад
He's ONLY RATED as a defender
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Год назад
@@fateriddle14 "Rodman is underrated as a rebounder" 🤣
@Monsterhouse215
@Monsterhouse215 Год назад
That was the best coaching I have seen doc do since he's been in Philly and now the world sees who the best big man in the NBA is
@enzorocha2977
@enzorocha2977 Год назад
Now this is what you call a proper breakdown. All those ESPN talking heads and other loudmouths on TV should hang their heads in shame for just stirring the pot and providing nothing else. All heat and no light. Superb analysis, TB, more power to ya! ;)
@svonhershman
@svonhershman Год назад
great breakdown. one of the most frustrating things about this team is how they don't adjust against a good team, and this game was huge in showing how capable they are at doing this if they execute. tucker was HUGE tonight.
@timholland2129
@timholland2129 Год назад
Embiid did amazing , tucker did pretty good. But the adjustment is what won them the game.
@InsaneTrickShots
@InsaneTrickShots Год назад
it felt like jokic was just chillin this game and embiid played it like he was slighted, which he was. in a 7 game series, jokic would destroy this defensive style IMO. he just didnt try to look for his shot until it was too late. also, philly not gonna shoot 50% from 3 every game
@Well-beingCris..
@Well-beingCris.. Год назад
So in a 7 game series you think joe out performs the leading scorer and player with the highest defensive win share in the league ? Embiid dominates Joe 100 times out of a 100. He can’t guard Embiid.
@Heartbrayk.
@Heartbrayk. Год назад
Just say you don't know hoops and move on...
@user-vo2bu5oi9k
@user-vo2bu5oi9k Год назад
The dickridin is crazy‼️
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill Год назад
Plus Philly at home...
@user-vo2bu5oi9k
@user-vo2bu5oi9k Год назад
Worry about how yall are gonna hide this big fella against the talented western guards bro✌️ Remember the only deep run Jokic has ever had is when murray became mj for 2 weeks
@lillbig__
@lillbig__ Год назад
Perfect analysis 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@ericconners923
@ericconners923 Год назад
Amazing breakdown
@jamesonevers3262
@jamesonevers3262 Год назад
I think this is a really great adjustment, My first though is then how many teams in the west could emulate this in the playoffs? Maybe Memphis, having Jaren Jackson to ignore Gordon. I also think the logical adjustment would be either post Jokic in an empty side, or honestly have Jokic just play better in the second half(Yes I know great adjustment)
@pplRretards
@pplRretards Год назад
Clippers have Marcus Morris and Batum, Pelicans have Herbert Jones and Nance, Mavs have Kleber, Suns have Mikal Bridges. All could play in PJs role on Jokic and they all have guys that can play Embiids role in Clippers Zubac, Pelicans Valanciunas, Mavs have Christian Wood or Powell, and Suns have Ayton. That's just a few off the top my head that they'd face in the Western conference playoffs as for the East the Celtics have done this before with Grant Williams on Jokic and Rob Williams or Horford playing rim protector! Nets could put Simmons in Jokic and Claxton as a roamer to protect the rim, Cavs could put Mobley on Jokic and Allen roaming, Heat Butler/Adebayo, Knicks Randle/Robinson and Hawks Trae Young/Capella lmfao that's a joke btw but really Hawks it doesn't matter cause they'll give up 120+ to anyone as long as Trae Young is in the court smh
@Ryan-yu5kt
@Ryan-yu5kt Год назад
Lakers putting Rui on Jokic and having AD roam
@za9883
@za9883 Год назад
​@@pplRretards I think the Bucks can do it too, Giannis currently plays as a roaming rim protector around Brook Lopez's paint protection and strength, having Giannis on Jokic might cancel out his effect as a roaming rim protector but he's strong and mobile enough to bother Jokic (with the height and length to not get shot over on top) while Brook's presence still protects the rim against Jokic finding easy passes to open cutters. Heat is a great call, Jimmy has the strength and Bam has the rim protection. Celtics too I dont think Wood/Powell has the rim protection or Mikal has the strength for it to work but I do think the Clippers can with Morris or Batum like you said or even with Kawhi in a pinch (which he did for the Raps in 2019, he is really strong and hard to move), Pels can with Herb or even Zion in a pinch if they need to and JV clogging the paint, Lakers can actually do it really well even with LeBron and AD playing those roles. Maybe Dillon Brooks and JJJ. The Warriors can manage with Draymond playing both roles because their guards can torch Jokic in space so much it wont even matter. Wolves could in theory with McDaniels and Gobert but I think it'd be cancelled out by KAT's man being able to blow by him on the perimeter too easily
@pplRretards
@pplRretards Год назад
@@za9883 ya agree with all that except where you believe McDaniels could hold up with Jokic but not Mikal Bridges lol McDaniels while might be a couple inches taller at 6'9" the Bridges at 6'6", McDaniels is over 20 lbs lighter then what Bridges weighs at 210 lbs and McDaniels is rail thin weighing 185 pounds lol Bridges also has a massive 7'2" wingspan atleast for his 6'6" height!
@pplRretards
@pplRretards Год назад
@@Ryan-yu5kt ya that way Lebron can continue his normal role on defense by defending the guy that's sits in the corner 3 lmfao 🤣
@jamieconnelly5719
@jamieconnelly5719 Год назад
This was the only NBA game I've been too. Couldn't be happier to have chosen it. Embiid just took the game in his hands with money jump shots while stealing Jokics lunch (his mom packed roast beef sammiches)
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 Год назад
That game was a blowout for 3/4 quarters…sixers we’re lucky and embiid had zero steals
@marc-oliviermeviane4353
@marc-oliviermeviane4353 Год назад
@@kylehowe6761 Embiid had 3 steals lol
@PlayfulCloud3
@PlayfulCloud3 Год назад
@@kylehowe6761 i dont know what game u r watchin
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 Год назад
@@PlayfulCloud3 honestly I didn’t look at the box scores I really couldnt remember him getting steals tho I only remember him having one big block…but the other part is facts if joker would’ve stayed in attack mode and didn’t have that 3rd quarter collapse and nuggets are up double digits going into the 4th it could have been a very different ball game…but oh well nuggets get another shot at them in a month
@c_rock3512
@c_rock3512 Год назад
@@kylehowe6761 “if my team didn’t utterly collapse and our best player get cooked we would’ve totally won the game!” Y’all lost, no if ands or buts.
@beedebawng2556
@beedebawng2556 Год назад
Great dissection. 😊
@djolemadzarevic
@djolemadzarevic Год назад
"After a battle, everyone is a general". It is easy after a game, with all the time in the world, to make such analysis. During a game, things are happening in a matter of split seconds, and one must react in instinct. But, to be serious, this game is proof how big Jokić become when 24-8-9 (in first game after injury) is considered as bad 🙂. For the huge majority of players, this would be a dream stats.
@antwan1357
@antwan1357 Год назад
Gotta give props to tucker for his amazing defense against a much taller player.
@bluefurby5251
@bluefurby5251 Год назад
This one is on Malone. He should already have an adjustment prepared for this type of strategy next time. Although PJ Tucker is one of the rare smaller players who can guard Jokic because of his strength so I wonder which other team can implement something like this.
@zanezhao-murray6567
@zanezhao-murray6567 Год назад
no worries, we know they in a lab working on adjustments
@Anthonydu01630
@Anthonydu01630 Год назад
Lakers, LeBron or even Rui can guard Jokic and AD can roam in the paint, Bucks also with Giannis and Lopez (But Giannis isn’t as strong he has a high center of gravity and Jokic bullied him many times in the post so idont know), Celtics with Grant Williams and Robert Williams, Memphis with JJJ, Dillion Brooks and Adams, Nets with Ben Simmons and Claxton or the Wolves with KAT and Gobert. Basically any team with 1 strong wing or big and a great rim protector, even Zion and Valanciunas or Mobley and Allen could do it.
@altdelete7696
@altdelete7696 Год назад
If you look, pj was letting jokic move him on several plays. As long as u got a giant in embiid waiting in the paint you don't really need mr olympia to guard jokic. The real issue is not everyone has had a giant in the paint. In fact most don't
@Gnofg
@Gnofg Год назад
@@Anthonydu01630 The thinking is to take away Jokic's first step. I have thought that this is the strategy against all big men who want to be guards. They dribble well against another big guy but they don't dribble so well against a strong smaller guy who can steal their dribble and beat the to the spot. With Giannis you should pick him up full court. Jokic only has an average post game and a double team will make his life difficult down low.
@AE_2023
@AE_2023 Год назад
@@Anthonydu01630 Lebron isnt guarding Jokic dude. Lebron hasnt played defense in like 5 years
@kjo2130
@kjo2130 Год назад
Great breakdown
@xxjackirblackbloddxx7377
@xxjackirblackbloddxx7377 Год назад
Great vid If you believe this will work again you are ar best extremely hopeful
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
Jokic will adjust to this if it's a 7 game serious. I think Murray was the one who didn't do well here. He should have played PNR with Jokic and get whatever vs PJ. Or they could have played AG/Jokic PNR to negate this. They just all looked like they didn't know what to do.
@dsess2001
@dsess2001 Год назад
You don't get faster, jump higher or have more athleticism in a 7 game series. It is very simple. Make Denver a jump shooting team because Jokic is not blowing by anyone. He also, is not going take anyone off the dribble and is not going to jump over defenders. They neutralized him because who are you going to throw back cuts to in the paint when you have one of the most dominant rim protecters back there defending? Jokic tied to bang PJ but the help defender in the paint has Joel. He had to kick it out and the had to make shots.
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
@@dsess2001 other teams did this exact same thing the 76ers did. Celtics with Horford and Williams, Jazz with Gobert etc but it never works.. last night the Nuggeta didn't adjust and through a 7 game serious they would adjust easy. After one half of trying this and grtting murdered the 76ers would stop doing it and that wouls be it.
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 Год назад
@@dsess2001 you don’t think Jokic would pick apart that scheme lol you guys really think you figured him out…lol there has never been a single matchup in the league he hasn’t figured out and he does just fine with Joel everytime they are 1v1
@c_rock3512
@c_rock3512 Год назад
@@kylehowe6761 Joel cooks him 1 on 1 and has been for awhile. Check their stats when guarding one another.
@dirtporcelain
@dirtporcelain Год назад
The problem is Jokic would adjust sooner than Malone would
@mrcheapitem
@mrcheapitem Год назад
Watch AD and the Lakers do this too!
@petarpavic112
@petarpavic112 Год назад
Yeah and joker is stupid and he can't adjust and anticipate this defense, this Philly defense was surprise for him not anymore
@howdareyouexist
@howdareyouexist Год назад
averaged a 27 point triple double and swept the lakers lmao
@edwardabrahamiii3742
@edwardabrahamiii3742 Год назад
Can tell at the end of the game big man know big man got alot of respect for 1 another
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 Год назад
It’s so crazy how like every time I watch Jokic in a game he gets cooked yet people swear he’s good defensively and that his lack of defense is either completely irrelevant or not true.
@Gnofg
@Gnofg Год назад
Jokic is a terrible defender and PJ took away his first step. All big men think they are good dribblers but against someone like PJ he is not a good dribbler and he has no ups so he can't fire off a mid range jumper.
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 Год назад
@@Gnofg oh I know that, but people swear to god he’s the best big man in the league when the only thing he does better then Embid and AD is pass lmfao 🤣, and well AD can’t shoot so there’s that for him
@Gnofg
@Gnofg Год назад
@@justingabriel1765 He is a good passer but it is relatively easy to pass from penetration. He is a god awful defender like most Europeans. Akeeem got down on Embid because he doesn’t dominate in the post like he should. When you are bigger than everyone else you should let everyone know that you are the biggest guy on the court.
@howdareyouexist
@howdareyouexist Год назад
🤡
@rafael-sx5go
@rafael-sx5go Год назад
Well it didn't matter in the end
@AP-sr2lr
@AP-sr2lr Год назад
Anyone else here because they're trying to see how the Heat could limit Jokic?
@ishungchan
@ishungchan Год назад
here, i'm really hoping mj son could defeat them
@Y2Jmarco1
@Y2Jmarco1 Год назад
The counter move for Denver to this tactic is putting Gordon as a cutter (instead of keeping him in the angle shooting 3s) from the center of the court and the other wing/guard as a slasher under the basket near the center so Aaron can drive to the basket being contested by the opposing center standing to the rim while the slasher now has no man with him and there’s an extra pass for an easy lay-up/dunk for 2.
@EmanCollins
@EmanCollins Год назад
@ 6:15 Ah yes, the 2-2 zone, VERY underrated defensive scheme. 👌👌
@nts4906
@nts4906 Год назад
Nuggets looked human in the second half and this is perfectly explained. More teams will adjust in this way now. Malone should be able to come up with a nice scheme to handle this switch though. Jokic can shoot over the smaller defenders when he is told to be in a shoot-first mentality. And that is what he will have to do against the smaller defenders, as well as pass to the other 3pt shooters.
@imurpapa8120
@imurpapa8120 Год назад
but jokic is slow so they could guard up close and affect his shot
@nts4906
@nts4906 Год назад
@@imurpapa8120 he too tall and too good of a shooter. i hope these teams meet in the finals. it would be close
@MrSuperman957
@MrSuperman957 Год назад
@@imurpapa8120 Nah, he can use his shuffle to shoot over those defenders
@sturm1780
@sturm1780 Год назад
Jokic being in a shoot-first mentality is a complete antithesis to his entire game up to this point. He always looks to pass first. Whether Jokic will go into that mentality is a genuine question. That man showed no interest in shooting over PJ Tucker despite being one of the greatest mid-range shooters in the league, up there with KD.
@harrygarris6921
@harrygarris6921 Год назад
If every team starts doing it then it doesn't work. That's the reason why NBA teams only run zones on very rare occasions. It only works as a curveball to throw a team off guard when they weren't expecting it. Zone defense is much worse than a switching man to man defense when your opponent is prepared for it with the level of shooting in the NBA.
@damienbrnch
@damienbrnch Год назад
Embiid was unreal on this game. Probably my fav game of the season so far
@mitchellproductions9865
@mitchellproductions9865 Год назад
hell of a game by embiid, hell of a 2nd half plan from doc. we will see you in denver in march and then maybe june??
@acornsucks2111
@acornsucks2111 Год назад
Nice adjustment by Doc. Such moves happen all the time in a seven game series. Joker will have to post his smaller man on the block without the ball, or find a three point shooter that forces the center to come out.
@Gnofg
@Gnofg Год назад
The minute he goes to the block you double team him. Jokic is an okay post player but not an outstanding one. He plays like a PG so defensively you want to take away his first step which is what the sixers did.
@jasonbilly5247
@jasonbilly5247 Год назад
All you have to do is keep attacking him on offense just stay consistent and don't let up he really doesn't like playing defense other than the occasional steal it's not really a part of his game
@joshuadonald9383
@joshuadonald9383 Год назад
Exactly you have to constantly attack a guy like Jokic a lot of Den games I watch I’m actually surprised by how little teams seem to attack him.
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis Год назад
Do you think the Grizzlies could do this with dillon brooks and jaren as the roamer or is it just better to have the bruiser in Steven adams on him and give up some of the quickness and rely on jarens help
@TrillBill
@TrillBill Год назад
I don't trust Taylor Jenkins to do that though, he's been looking real fraudulent lately. Now, if the grizzlies had a smart coach like Kerr or Malone, then I could DEFINELTY see Memphis implementing that. Only time will tell
@noamyair
@noamyair Год назад
I mean I think brooks although is too little at least tucker is a great post defender brooks is more of a wing defender
@meekmill8042
@meekmill8042 Год назад
@@TrillBill fraud ? Jesus you guys don't give coaches chances at all ..
@TrillBill
@TrillBill Год назад
@@meekmill8042 I never called him a "fraud". I said he's been looking like one as of late. His rotations been questionable and his half court offense schemes are mundane. Yes or no?
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis Год назад
@@TrillBill His rotations have been inconsistent because the team has been riddled with injuries throughout the year. I think he has been great this year with what he has had to work with but the halfcourt offense is more of a lack of shooting than bad offensive sets.
@theboii7692
@theboii7692 Год назад
Do you guys have any episodes on ben Wallace?? Just curious your perspective on the player and/how he would fit today with his defensive versatility.
@MlLFS4L
@MlLFS4L Год назад
Dropping a vid at 5 am is crazy😭
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
This is not the first time teams did this vs Jokic. Jazz, Portland etc did this and it didn't work that well. This game the Nuggets were just not that good. Also imagine being outcoached by DOC RIVERS
@user-sl7mt9no1f
@user-sl7mt9no1f Год назад
Obviously other teams have tried this, but those teams don't have the personnel to execute this as well as the Sixers this year.
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
Celtics do have an even better Horford on Jokic and Williams as a roamer duo and it didn't work at all. The rest of the roster has to adjust and in this game they didn't.
@cdeleon3494
@cdeleon3494 Год назад
@@nikolakrstic8079 gotta give credit to doc rivers for adjusting though... It's not philly's fault that denver didnt adjust... This shows how valuable pj tucker's defense is even at his age...
@user-sl7mt9no1f
@user-sl7mt9no1f Год назад
@@nikolakrstic8079 I think I’m a vacuum you might be right that the Celtics have the personnel for this also. But Williams hasn’t been fully healthy. Only played 17 games this year or something. Not sure it’s a good comparison from that standpoint.
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
They did it last year too and as I said, many teams try that. You probably don't see as I do because I watch every Nuggets game. This was just obviously bad coaching for the Nuggets and the team not playing well overall. Jokic should have been more aggressive in the 2nd half I will say that
@Bostuguinhas
@Bostuguinhas Год назад
The way u stop jokic is getting him into a playoff matchup, than u can exploit him in the defensive end, were he is a liability
@jaydenwilson8371
@jaydenwilson8371 Год назад
Well first you need a center like Joel tbh. The only team is the warriors probably. Hopefully Jokić becomes more aggressive on offensive and learns from Marc Gasol on how to guard the paint
@jamesdubeck4920
@jamesdubeck4920 Год назад
Idk whos idea this was. But it was one of those adjustments i love to see fron my sixers 🏀🔴⚪️🔵
@gnm4
@gnm4 Год назад
banger in the early morning
@AGHathaway
@AGHathaway Год назад
Embiid is so underappreciated in the league. Should have been a starter over Durant.
@devontefigures2289
@devontefigures2289 Год назад
Stop
@fazediamond5671
@fazediamond5671 Год назад
It’s a fan vote
@thelionofjudah77u82
@thelionofjudah77u82 Год назад
@@fazediamond5671 The comment still applies
@rostrhamus
@rostrhamus Год назад
Fans didn’t vote
@far9462
@far9462 Год назад
Nah. over Tatum FORSURE
@batopopadic1071
@batopopadic1071 Год назад
Can't wait for them coming to Denver 😄
@risottonero4501
@risottonero4501 Год назад
Revenge time
@DH-lm6kh
@DH-lm6kh Год назад
So Embiid can prove he's the real MVP again? Jokic is overrated
@bowenhammack6155
@bowenhammack6155 Год назад
@@DH-lm6kh oml brother you don't know ball and it's obvious you're a bias eagles fan 🤣
@DH-lm6kh
@DH-lm6kh Год назад
@@bowenhammack6155 I don't know ball?? Lol Embiid is unstoppable offensively and can actually play defense, unlike Jokic. Jokic is just a stat padder, similar to Westbrook
@mikeyd-yl3vv
@mikeyd-yl3vv Год назад
@@bowenhammack6155 just mad your PER Prince lost to Embiid
@jlhewitt87
@jlhewitt87 Год назад
"why don't we switch one our strongest defensive players off the other teams weakest shooter." revolutionary, Doc.. truly.
@ashamael
@ashamael Год назад
You make me love basketball even more.
@polymathecian
@polymathecian Год назад
Joker had seven turnovers in this game.
@taimur9522
@taimur9522 Год назад
No it’s not a way to stop him. Jazz have done this before and Jokic figured them out. Malone was just slow to adjust yesterday and it cost the Nuggets. Using AG as the ball handler or the screen setter offsets this and allows Jokic to get O boards and post up iso.
@VladimirElliot
@VladimirElliot Год назад
You don’t think PJ and Embiid can’t switch?😂😂 it’s a matchup problem. It’s a good thing the nuggets don’t have to play the sixers in the playoffs
@nikolakrstic8079
@nikolakrstic8079 Год назад
He left Jeff Green to play 20 minutes when he was HORRIBLE every second of the game while AG and MPJ only played 28 minutes... how stupid can a coach be?
@ronmexico7256
@ronmexico7256 Год назад
@@VladimirElliot Embiid can struggle to switch at times because of his poor lateral movement. All this is irrelevant anyway until Philly actually decides to show up in the playoffs for once
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 Год назад
@@VladimirElliot there has never been a match up Jokic hasn’t figured out if you really think you’re going to stop Jokic with pj tucker in a playoff series…things are gonna go really really bad for you.
@youngmula916
@youngmula916 Год назад
@@VladimirElliot if they switched it would be what the nuggets wanted with embid on Jokic
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc Год назад
6:52 That's te beauty of different styles and personel
@beardoromal3638
@beardoromal3638 Год назад
P. J. Tucker👏👏👏 Always guarding the opposing teams best player effectively.
@NBAConfidential
@NBAConfidential Год назад
The Lakers just did something similar in game 1. They were able to comeback and almost win the game.
@howdareyouexist
@howdareyouexist Год назад
and now? lmao
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 Год назад
And then got swept?
@NBAConfidential
@NBAConfidential Год назад
@@redeyexxx1841 OK? Idk why you guys are coming back to this comment and acting like you have a "gotcha". I never said this strategy was some silver bullet nor that the Lakers were going to win the series lol. I noticed the similarity between what the Lakers did and what was described in this video. I said nothing else and nothing more.
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 Год назад
@@NBAConfidential Man I'm just having some fun after drinking a bit. I'm not that serious
@akiljean-pierre9972
@akiljean-pierre9972 Год назад
Plenty of teams have put their PF on Jokic. The Jazz did it two seasons ago putting Bojan on Jokic when he dropped 47. Timberwolves did it this year too putting Kyle Anderson on Jokic instead of Rudy. Jokic just stopped being aggressive when they switched and became more passive
@dumbassdude8372
@dumbassdude8372 Год назад
This only works because embiid is a great shot creator, Theres no PF and center that can space the floor like tucker and embiid. This game was just a bad game for jokic if he favored perimeter shooters instead of trying to find cutter they wouldve won, Philly has some great paint defense but bad perimeter due to harden being there
@mosstwig3591
@mosstwig3591 Год назад
Exactly. He went 8-12 and 2-2 from 3. He probably could dropped 35+ if he really wanted to.
@akiljean-pierre9972
@akiljean-pierre9972 Год назад
@@dumbassdude8372 his problem wasn’t trying to finding shooters (Jamal and Bones went 3/13 from 3) his problem was he should’ve shot the ball more. He took 5 total shots in the 2nd half because he though being up 15 was good enough and no one else on the Sixers outside of Embiid really did anything. Harden had a hot start but only made 1 shot in the 2nd half. He should’ve attacked Pj Tuck who 100% cannot guard Jokic lol
@a6340
@a6340 Год назад
I know it's not basketball but it reminds me of what the belichek patriots used to do when they had prime revis and Gilmore, put your oldest defender on the #2, and help/double the #1. I know it's football not basketball but the philosophy is the same. Don't put your best defender on the best offensive player, use the help from the #1 to overwhelm
@OmnipotentSpud
@OmnipotentSpud Год назад
Can we get a heck ya for Doc actually making an adjustment 😆.
@Uebelkraehe
@Uebelkraehe Год назад
Good adjustment, always fun to see, but isn't Embiid often lingering a bit long in the paint?
@guitarplayer5559
@guitarplayer5559 Год назад
No. As long as there's an offensive player near the paint with him, a defensive player can linger in the paint. Its why when you watch Embiid and he's lingering in the paint, he'll motion towards his man right outside.
@customch33s32
@customch33s32 Год назад
The rules around the 3 second rule are really lenient actually. They say that if the player doesn't get an advantage by being inside the paint the seconds don't count. (This is mostly for if someone barely missed the step outside, or if they are just inside it on the edge) Another rule is that if the player is making an effort to get outside the paint at 3 seconds it doesn't count. (So that you don't block players inside the paint and then they get fouled) Case and point being it is a rule with space for a lot of leniency, being that another referee would call them and it wouldn't be a wrong call either
@wunderkid8749
@wunderkid8749 Год назад
I think jokic has some difficulties when he is guard by a guard. Someone with active hands who will force him to put the ball on the floor. Jokic loves to pass the ball so his teammates runs all over the place and with his vision, find the open man. Pj did a great job yesterday.
@nellyville69
@nellyville69 Год назад
Pj Tucker is a hardworking physical tough player his production is valuable 💯
@1JLegend
@1JLegend Год назад
I think this is a pretty simple yet perfect example of a better team player vs a better individual player.
@csgoat968
@csgoat968 Год назад
Can we take a second to give a round of applause for Doc Rivers finally doing something right as a coach
@Opieboi
@Opieboi Год назад
Dude he had them winning without Embiid harden and maxey give it a fucking break
@csgoat968
@csgoat968 Год назад
@@Opieboi i’m supposed to give those dude a tip of the hat for beating the Pistons and Pacers???? lol let’s not pretend the rest of the league also hasn’t been facing injury issues and the fact that the rest of the team is legitimately good in a weaker Eastern conference, Doc doesn’t coach he rests on the laurels of his players
@Opieboi
@Opieboi Год назад
@@csgoat968 first off east is stronger than the west this year ask anyone who’s actually bee watching, second the rest of the league didn’t start the year missing there three best players so off that, third no one asked for a tip of the hat, just for you to get your parakeet head out of your ass.
@csgoat968
@csgoat968 Год назад
@@Opieboi lol oh really now??? cause last time I checked the 8th placed team isn’t even able .500 in the East but they are in the West, almost seems as though the East is top heavy and to a casual who doesn’t actually watch games, might be enough to trick ppl into thinking the East is the deeper conference and you’re literally just spreading bullshit dude, Maxey, Harden and Embiid were 100% healthy by game 1 this year idk where you’re pulling this shit from and my man you’re actively defending Doc Rivers and I need to get my head out of my ass???💀💀💀💀💀
@csgoat968
@csgoat968 Год назад
@@Opieboi dawg just plz shut up and never talk basketball with me again💀💀💀💀 bro really said the East is deeper than the West as if the fucking Pacers arent fighting for a Playoff spot in the East omggggg plz actually watch a single game
@fgomez209
@fgomez209 Год назад
The way to stop Jokic, you could watch it this summer in the European championship, is to make him a defensive liability.
@metalsadman
@metalsadman Год назад
get howard, jokic can easily be bothered by strong handsy defenders as seen here.
@minnuss
@minnuss Год назад
And who stopped him in European championship, or did I watch some other championship in another dimension ?
@Leo73srb
@Leo73srb Год назад
this was catching him by surprise... I have no doubt that Jokic, as one of the best, if not the best, IQ player will have an answer already in the next game
@Gnofg
@Gnofg Год назад
What this move did was take away Jokic's first step. Jokic is a good dribbler against another big man, he is not a good dribbler against someone like PJ who can steal his dribble and beat him to the spot. Jokic also can't do a pull up jumper because he can't jump.
@charlesbaker3950
@charlesbaker3950 Год назад
As a Suns fan, I've been a big fan of Mikal Bridges since his rookie year. But there was a period last year, I started to think that his skills (as a scorer / playmaker) were not ever going to improve. But this season (last night against the Raptors specifically) - he has shown major growth and comfort with having the ball in his hands. I notice he's gotten better at keeping a low dribble - keeping control and balance - as he searches for plays. At the same time his mid range has improved (it's a reliable weapon every night) - and his vision - passing lanes - hitting teammates - it's all improving. It feels like this time without Booker has been a major help to his development. I'm curious about any other thoughts on Bridges' continued development, his ceiling, etc.
@greatheightsu
@greatheightsu Год назад
Ah, so the key to stopping Jokic is to have a super elite defensive center like Embiid and a stout PF. Pack it up boys, Jokic's season is washed now. 😎
@ReallyGotMotion
@ReallyGotMotion Год назад
Embiid Bullied Jokic. Jokic is a regular season Analytics king nothing more.
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
That's not the only reason lol.
@kylehowe6761
@kylehowe6761 Год назад
Lol I can’t wait for you clowns to have to come play in Denver next month and make you whistle a different tune
@Mark-nh3up
@Mark-nh3up Год назад
EMBID THE GREATEST CHOKER IN THE PLAYOFFS HE IS NOT A BIG GAME PLAYER ZERO MENTALITY OR WR CALL IT LOSER MENTALITY THE ONLY MVP WHO ARE NOT PLAYING IN EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS HAGAGAGA EMBARASSING !
@sanswt2765
@sanswt2765 Год назад
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