Is This TRUE DETECTIVE'S Season 4 Killer? 

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This season in a nutshell: The mine is poisoning the local water supply causing vivid hallucinations and sometimes violent psychosis.

I believe that when people point to Navarro that they are pointing behind her not at her.

... I'm waiting for Dana and Mulder to make an appearance before the last episode.🤣

My guess is that there is some sort of organism that is causing neurological symptoms. Tsalal was working on extracting an organism to study to prolong life. The mining could have released that organism into the water supply. It won't be exactly rabies but could be rabies like. Rabies affects neurons, especially the brain so this rabies like disease could cause hallucinations. Rabies causes aggression thus the self inflicted wounds. Rabies can cause lesions in the eye. Perhaps the ear bleeding is from pressure in the brain. There has been a lot of scientific talk about ancient germs being released as the tundra thaws. New organisms have been found this way. That's my bet. It would fit a theme of environmental damage causing climate change or specifically like the mine leading to unearthing a new organism. Then there's a whole cover-up that includes killing people because the Tsalal funders were looking for eternal life, but instead it kills people and drives them mad: Plus Clark is paleomicrobiologist. Paleo--ancient. Studies ancient micro organisms. Heiss mapped the ice caves so he could have been the first infected. We know there are ancient fossils down in the caves. Toxoplasmosis is an infection when in the brain can cause headache, confusion, poor coordination, seizures, lung pchorioretinitis caused by severe inflammation of the retina (ocular toxoplasmosis). It has been linked to schizophrenia as well. Another clue toward a brain/neurological infection. Finally, people have different genetic susceptibility to diseases, thus some people might be more likely to get it. It's estimated that around half of people have the organism that causes toxoplasmosis but only a few get to the point of serious infection and brain disease.

Great review. I am wondering if Danvers is catfishing Hank, pretending to be the Russian fiance. She referred several times to fantasy football on her phone, but we never see it. Assuming that everything in True Detective is for a purpose, I'm wondering if Danvers is getting back at Hank. Hank used to be police chief, so he must have been demoted to a regular cop, which explains why he tries to undermine everything Liz does.

Isn’t there a fan theory that in Ferris Buellers day off that Ferris is the alter ego of Cameron or rather Ferris is a coping mechanism / fight club type of dilusional part of him .

My biggest gripe with the season is the soundtrack. So many scenes have unnecessary hallmark/moody spotify playlist music when ambient music would help be a better fit. Its distracting and loses the vibe of the setting

Anyone notice in the first flashback to the wheeler case, Navarro is on the right side and then in the second flashback Navarro is on the left side of Danvers

the only letdown I have with this season is how short it is and knowing that there’s only another two episodes. with only two episodes, we can be sure a lot will be left with no explanations :(

I think the killer is Qavik, Navarro had the stone when she went over there after the fight, showed it to him, then didn't have it when she went to Liz's house

I think young Prior shouldn't be forgotten. He wasn't a cop when he married, his wife never agreed to it. His dad has been demoted (theory), he has access to all kinds of information, either to use for the good or to manipulate. He does research, but seems to be bothered when Navarro finds out what he cannot find, or did not want to be found (again the possibility to manipulate info).... I'm not thinking that he's the killer, since he is always seen at work or at home to sleep mostly, but I think he's doing something of the books.

I just hope its not Navarro because right now it all points to her - I just want to be genuinely shocked by the reveal of the true killer.

The real killer Hanks fiancé. I’m convinced after she murdered his emotions in episode 4.

Issue I have with the ice cleat theory as a murder weapon is that people from that area would recognize better than anyone so they should have already made that connection if that were the case. I believe the fallout is because Navarro kills the man on the last and Liz has to cover it up as a suicide which is why she’s being interviewed in the trailer and would explain the fallout. It would have to be something major for liz not to want to work with her since she herself is hated.

Qavik for sure either killed Annie K/the scientists or knows who did. The guy looked shook when he saw the stone with the spiral and seems to know a lot about whats going around in Ennis. We're missing something big tho but idk what it is

Idk the significance but Holden’s pajama’s are mirrored in Navarro’s vision. Dreamer reads backwards

I think somewhere people are forgetting that Tsalal is owned by the Tuttle’s from season one. And that symbol is from them. Unless they are just using it as a deterrent.

Not only a good theory but it will be the first season of having the detective actually being the killer

I think the cave Annie is in involves the researchers digging and finding something. That would explain a generator being down there. She discovered the truth about what’s going on down there and was killed.

This may be far out there, but what if Navarro and her sister were students at the Tuttle schools. It might further explain the mental illnesses. Also, Rose spoke about being a teacher. I couldn’t help but think that perhaps Rose was also involved at the Tuttle schools. Also, Navarro did say that she had seen the spiral “a long time ago.”

Wow, follow earned. You cracked the case detective imho.

Thank you for finally including Sedna.

After listening to Issa Lopez talk in the episode 4 podcast, I don't feel like Navarro having a split personality is the angle they're going for. Lopez is always hinting towards Navarro and Danvers needing each other to solve the cases. Obviously, Navarro is the believer and Danvers is the sceptic. I think it would quite insulting and disrespectful to Native American culture to just have the show turn around and basically say "oh yeah, she has a split personality and she's the killer, and therefore crazy" It'll turn out to be a lot nuanced than that tired trope. Personally I think Qavvik, Sedna and the Ennis residents being involved in cult/coven activities would be far more compelling but maybe that's just my wishful thinking. In the podcast, there's a huge emphasis on telling tales of Inuit Folklore and delving deep into the spirituality. Here's hoping that stick the landing.

Might be way off base but Qavvik as the killer could be a really interesting twist. All of his sweetness could be a cover. Like, he's had a scene every episode - why? What's the significance of the SpongeBob toothbrush? Could he be a Tuttle? Definitely think an argument could be made for the majority of Ennis occupants low-key worshipping Goddess Sedna.

Unlike the previous seasons . This is gonna be a 6 part series . It’s episode 4 and we are exploring the possibilities of killer . I just hope they don’t hurriedly end the series .. I mean they have 2 episodes, 2hrs time to play it out nicely

You keep mentioning that it's Peter hacking the ice, but it's Hank. If you look at the original trailer you can see his face. He drags a wrapped body and dumps it into the hole in the ice.

This is very interesting

Im confused then she knew the place because of Annie? She shut off the light's etc. I believe theres so much to do with her past and things she had possibly blacked out. But the men dying of fear? I really hope that this isn't the case and its way more complicated than this. They still haven't mentioned liz son and husband dying im assuming car crash..

This is so easily debunked. 1. People make one post burner accounts for fandom subreddits all of the time when they’re typically just a lurker but come up with a theory they want to share really badly with others. 2. Novarro isn’t the only person that sees the dead and hears whispers. They make a point to tell us how common it is for others in Ennis to have these experiences during the long night. 3. The wheeler scenes are different because the first one was shown while Danvers was lying about the situation to Prior and the second one was shone while she was telling the truth about it to Novarro. 4. The finger thing I’m very sure was to show that in Ennis the only real jobs available are dangerous ones. Her fingers were cut off by a machine while working. 5. Why would Sedna be Novarro when her sister seems to be way more connected to her myth? She’s the one that goes to the sea when she’s emotional and is being called to it. And she literally dies by drowning in the sea, just like Sedna. On top of that the rest of the points making this connection apply to Julia too- being directly effected by abuse, she’s also close with Qavvik since he looks out for her when Novarro can’t, she sees and hears the dead even more strongly than Evangeline, etc. If anyone is Sedna it’s Julia. 6. It makes no sense to me for Foster to have been talking about Novarro’s character arc in a way that seems positive and have her be referring to her being the killer. Overall, I think that all of the supernatural elements are pointing to Novarro being the one to save the day, not being the one that’s causing the day to need to be saved in the first place. That would be garbage writing that doesn’t fit True Detective’s MO at all. It would be straying even further from the series MO than adding supernatural elements to it. Every season has been about the detectives being able to save others from evil despite their very obvious flaws, that they are good even though they do morally grey or even bad shit sometimes. They are never the cause of the evil, it would go against the point of the entire series to decide to change that and make them be the cause of it, and Issa Lopez knows better than to disgrace the show by doing that.

Hank is starting to look more sus as time moves on.

When Anders Lund awakes Navarro first seem worried learning that. At the hospital she keeps quiet giving Lund who is blind no chance to know she is there, she also seem worried when Liz questions him. When fighting break out at the hospital, she doesn't rush to the fight, but keeps close to Lund who potentially can identify her as the murder. Lund also dies when only Navarro is present.

Sorry man, sounds daft to me. Before the scientists went missing, Navarro had no interest in them at all. No reason to tie Annie’s death to them. Would have killed the miners if anyone. Totally leaves out the microorganisms Tsalal was studying. I still think Annie killed them, resurrected by the microorganism after dying in some way I don’t know how to explain yet. I guess she found something spooky in the ice caves, something connected to the spiral mythology. I’m more convinced of it now that Navarro’s sister is dead, and how she mentioned she was going to be receiving her body. After they find Clark and learn about the microorganism resurrection stuff, maybe Navarro starts thinking about bringing back her sister.

This was definitely a trip!!

Oranges were seen in Tsala, there was bowl of them where the guy was making a sandwich.

I can't figure who the killer is because there is always something happening that freaks me out...then I lose focus temporarily...lol

There aren't enough CGI animals in this series 1/5

While this theory is interesting, it doesn't explain the psychosis of the scientists. Navarro couldn't have been so horrifying that she made them all fold their clothes and get naked in the tundra. Same with her sister. This show is excellent and I can't wait to see how it all plays out.

I actually posited this theory on Twitter a bit ago

After this 4th episode i told my wife i think Navaro is the killer.

Ohhhhh ok yeah that makes sense. I didn’t know Issa said that the killer is right in front of us. Ok you nailed it. It’s Navarro for sure.

Mmk…I have a feeling they might leave us hanging about the scientists. We may never know what happened to them. (or Annie’s tongue for that matter) I’m thinking her story was included simply to throw us a bone & give them something they CAN solve so they didn’t let us down completely. Well I for one will be furious if I’m right!

Interesting theory and breakdown. There is another reference to wolves that appeared in the first episode, almost unnoticed. When the detectives are searching the abandoned lab, there is a shelf of books, mostly concealed behind a radio so their titles cannot be clearly seen - two books on the right side of the shelf, however, are clearly visible, which makes their placement probably intentional. Both are by the late science fiction author Gene Wolfe: "The Fifth Head of Cerberus" (the title referencing the 3-headed dog guarding the gates of Hades, and in which questions of identity are ambiguous throughout) and The Urth Cycle, an omnibus edition of Wolfe's books set at in the very far future where the sun has grown smaller and dimmer and the stars are visible in the daylight sky. Wolfe is well-known for the use of unreliable narrators, complex plots which often require multiple readings to fully grasp what is going on, and an extensive reference and use of characters from mythology, who sometimes intrude into the "real" world...all of which seem to be going on in the series...

If you look at Eddie and Peter’s boots, it doesn’t look like they’re wearing cleats so must as chains that run under the shoes. Cheaper and less effective than actual spikes, but they serve the same purpose (and are pretty effective still). That said that seems to be a stretch. If she was kicked and left with a bunch of tiny stab wounds how would they have not figured that out? Also a kick would be very unlikely to cause stab wounds as the spikes on the cleats face straight down. You’d need to stomp someone to cause stab wounds. Also the spikes on the hunter’s cleats look triangular instead of star shaped.

I'm rewatching the first 4 episodes supposing this theory is correct. In the first episode, after Navarro goes to see her sister after her first mental health episode, besides the clear goddess pictures and one of the ocean at night on her wall, the 'bridge' between this scene and the next has a woman speaking what is very probably a native language and CLEARLY says the word Sedna [sssssssedna]. It sounds like a prayer. [29:25]

I think it is a good theory, but lady w the fingers missing is gonna be somewhere in the end.

This theory may explain why every ghost she sees is pointing to herself… she is/was security for tsalal wasn’t she? I can’t connect the dots in my head but I can see how that part of her in trance knows what’s been happening

I just don’t know about this season. It does have an interesting mystery, but season 1 was never this schizophrenic.

Really like this theory and hope it's true but I still think the more likely explaination is that Hank Prior is the killer, at least of Annie Kowtok, because of some love triangle bullshit.

Man, I'd hate it if was the schizo twist. It's a terrible trope on par with 'it was all a dream' or 'you were dead the whole time'. But alas, it seems plausible. They better have a damn good explanation for how a schizo chick killed 5 dudes and moved their bodies. Mind altering polluted water would be another cop out. 2 episodes left, and there's a lot to wrap up.

Yes, i saying this when I watch the First Episode, Inuit myth is in ALL characters, and this is my hipothesis too, I see Sedna in ALL women in this show. rsrs. Awesome. ❤

I like this theory in general and finding the cross in her truck really supports it. However it doesn't seem in line with True Detective. The show is all about Lovecraftian horror and the supernatural and Navarro having split personalities and unknowingly being the killer is more horror movie of the week shtick. Anyone remember that John Lithgow movie, Raising Cain?

good theory

I’ve been waiting for a season where the detective is the killer but idt it’ll be satisfying here. The lead up hasn’t been worth it so far. I can see this playing out though.

Interesting theory...and wouldn't really be as much of a let down as the Ragnarock ending!

Oliver seems to recognize Navarro but a bit puzzled when she couldn't answer her Inupiat name.

I think the split personality makes a ton of sense but I don’t think she killed the scientists

Schizophrenia also literally means “split mind” so I think that combat scene is a foreshadow. There’s a reason they showed that. Another detail only the killer would know is that Clark was still alive and not part of the corpsicle. Navarro sounded so sure of herself when she announced this to the other officers, and I found it strange. Navarro seems to lose time as well. This theory is certainly possible

Consider my mind...Blown 😲😲

This theory is better than anything the writers can come up with.

Anyone else notice that Navarro’s the only one that sees/talks to Rose?

Danvers is having auditory hallucinations. She heard twist and shout when opening up the fridge to put the turkey in to defrost. She uses the white noise machine as a crutch.

Given how taken Navarro was with Annie's case, I always thought she just unalived Wheeler because she was sick of him nit being punish led for his crimes. Liz says early on that Navarro has a thing about women getting hurt. She doesn't let it go, even when it means she steps outside the law.

Im really lost on how people can say the show is bad, and has too much filler. If anything the show is jammed packed with stellar character development, and layers to them. Alot of the "filler" is necessary to connect the relationships within the community they live in and understanding the trauma, grief, and history so we can see how it impacts there decisions that lead up to the bigger question of why this is all happening. True detective has always been a slow burner, and i think viewers want a faster paced show and that is never been the style with each season. They are all dark, well acted, and complex characters with rich storylines (even the "worst" seasons.

i think the outcome that can explain everything is there is two killers not just the one

how did you post this video and got all those E04 clips before the episode came out ?

Ep 1 When Liz is standing next to the DVDs the movie "The Thing" magically appears next to her when it wasnt there a few seconds earlier. Its a a red cased DVD in that spot. Hard to believe it was a continuity mistake considering its one of the driving force behind the story.

I like it. Navarro has PTSD and the water is intensifying things.

Interesting theory and great season

Interesting theory. I hope you turn out right.

So it's kind of "Angel Heart" meets "Fight Club"?. I buy it.

I can’t help but think that they’re going to try and insinuate that Hank and Peter are Tuttle’s/Childress’s. Rust even says in the final ep of S1 that they didn’t catch all of them.

John Hawkes reminds me of Chris Cooper.

Or is it Pete? There's a scene in the series wearing a brown shirt with patterns/symbols matching Annie's wounds, and he's shown directly under an interrogation lamp....

And remember the dude Oliver made it a point to tell Navarro she doesn’t remember her native name or something like that .. yeah this theory holds up pretty damn well right now

2:25 wait how do we know this? Is it just part of the theory or it was stated that it was Sedna?

Geez, dont let it turn into Angel Heart.

After watching this video the first episode reveals the killer. 👌🏽

We love you too 💓💓💓💓💓

This is good but if it doesn’t connect to season one somehow I’ll be disappointed why have the spirals and Rusts father being mentioned

3:19 - Um, as a person of faith, I have to say that part of prayer IS listening (at least it is for me). Otherwise, it could be mistaken for a vending machine or the request line for a radio station. 😜

I will admit this theory sounds true but I will admit it only more cool because you are explaining it because I think this season doesn’t have a lot going for it something about it seems small and the first season seem big, I understand this story is around just Alaska but it feels like a mini series more than the last 3

Rarely, does a program make me jump in my chair. It's as good as True Detective, season one, so far. Great story, writing and actors.

Could mercury poisoning, as a by product of mining, be the cause in part?

In episode 1: Why does Rose tell Navarro she's fucked when they find the scientists in the ice? And why is Navarro lurking around the research center in the first place when Danvers first shows up?

I really hope it’s not a split personality troupe. That would be lazy

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Rose’s husband pointed to the corpsicle too.

Something else to add: I think when Navarro was asked by Danvers what she likes to do, Navarro replied, "I pray." I think it was actually meant to mean "prey" vs. "pray." Her alter ego preys on others.

Has any other character interacted with or acknowledged Qavik?

i kinda hate how the episodes don’t have names. I always liked the names of the episodes in previous seasons.

also navarros boyfriend tell her that she‘s never alone

Maybe that’s why Rose calling Navarro “Missy”???

The real killer on this show is Issa Lopez 😂😅

I think maybe Hank Prior is Anne K's killer or he's protecting the killer (the mine guys?), and that's why he told his son in a past episode that "blood is blood", therefore, that family is more important than anything else when his son Peter stole the Anne K files that Hank had in his house for Danvers. In the end, his son will have to choose between his father (Anne K's killer) and Danvers (ie, his police work and punishing criminals). Also they aren't going to get such a great actor like John Hawkes for such a minor role, right?. No way. Saying that, I think maybe the Scientists' deaths have nothing to do with Anne K's death, like they are two separate things. Perhaps some organism they were testing on awakened and they knew it was incredibly contagious so that's why they ran out like crazy into the snow, and afterwards, hypothermia started kicking in so they took off their clothes. (mind you, why did they fold it though, or did someone else do it so their deaths would be investigated further as a murder case)? In any case maybe Clarke planted Anne K's tongue there before he ran away, so that Anne K's case could be re-investigated. Or maybe it was Rose Aguineau. Maybe her dead husband Travis Cohle lead her to the tongue and she kept it. Another possibility is one of the native cleaners. Maybe one of them had their 'spirit animal' lead them to find Anne K's tongue, long after her murder, so they kept it for safeguarding.

“it’s not that the dead don’t speak, it’s just that we have forgotten how to listen”-Pasolini

I feel that evil killer is Beth Rogers going around attacking all the people.

also important that navarro doesnt know her Inuit name because her mother didnt tell her. dundundun.

My guess is it's your burner account

In the videos I watched of indigenous women telling the story of Sedna, she didn't marry a dog. She married a shapeshifter who could turn from human into dog form. I feel like that's a little different.