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Is TREBIZOND the HARDEST start in EU4? 

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Trebizond is one of the hardest starts in EU4 - mainly due to the Ottomans. The Komnenoi Empire achievement where you try to reclaim Rome and eclipse the EU4 byzantines or Byzantium is one of the most difficult, but most interesting eu4 achievements! Watch as I am constantly on the verge of bankruptcy whilst constantly at war! Not since EU4 athens and Eu4 Theodoro have I returned to this region!
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@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Here's the Twitter for memes and more - twitter.com/theSStreamers
@mrlkf315
@mrlkf315 2 года назад
Wait the comment is posted before the video howww?
@addisonbaker8211
@addisonbaker8211 2 года назад
Hey btw there's a trick you missed in the early bit, all it really does is increase your loan cap in a way. When your loans get larger, you can't take as many, so because you had like 20 loans already it put you really near bankruptcy. But the loans you could take were larger, so you can take one loan and repay like 4-5 with it, and narrow your debt down to 5 loans, even if the actual amount of debt in them is larger because of the interest on the loans you took.
@AmericanBread
@AmericanBread 2 года назад
"While im constantly on the verge of bankruptcy" Ah, peak EU4 experience
@BoraCM
@BoraCM 2 года назад
In my Trebizond game, I basically took a bunch of Georgia’s cores, and sold a province back to them for a lot of money. Apart from that, I used war to sustain my ever-increasing army size, which was necessary to get an alliance with Poland.
@radec5437
@radec5437 2 года назад
Which Is quite realistic lol
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Peak Laith experience too
@125discipline2
@125discipline2 2 года назад
ottoman neighbor experience
@ranch2781
@ranch2781 2 года назад
"That weird little nation that claimed to be the Roman Empire." Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
@homoe7976
@homoe7976 2 года назад
I'm currently filling out the paperwork to declare my shed and garden the true heir of Rome.
@wizstorm172
@wizstorm172 2 года назад
But Trebizond where actually an off shoot of the Roman Empire.
@damianmares5338
@damianmares5338 2 года назад
@@wizstorm172 yeah, and so were like 4-5 other pieces of land , plus quite a few more that had literally 0 connections
@wizstorm172
@wizstorm172 2 года назад
@@damianmares5338 erm no not really Trebizond was a direct successor with a displaced dynasty that ruled over the Roman Empire so Trebizond did have connections.
@jman1276
@jman1276 2 года назад
I love a new series of Laith getting cyberbullied by the AI
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Uhhh, thanks?
@Jarmint
@Jarmint 2 года назад
@@TheSocialStreamers u good lad
@custos9209
@custos9209 2 года назад
Just accept that you attracted a bunch of sadists as audience ^^
@bankotsu2a
@bankotsu2a 2 года назад
@@TheSocialStreamers do you ever take the 1% burger lones? I can't see if you do take them/have the option to
@elvastan
@elvastan 2 года назад
Literal _cyber_ bullying
@more17
@more17 2 года назад
I love how Trebizond was an empire (a really small one, but still) but Paradox won't give them their proper government rank. Talk about disrespect. 😂
@more17
@more17 2 года назад
Also re "should I go Zoroastrian?" form Persia too for maximum cursedness. 😉
@civi4ever460
@civi4ever460 2 года назад
Well actually Ismail I's mom (first safavid shah) had familial roots in trebizond so, not that far off
@danshakuimo
@danshakuimo 2 года назад
Didn't they basically renounce the empire title when they renounced their claims on being the Roman Empire (which happened before game start)? And then again having the title is also based on other countries' recognition so it makes sense to have a achievement where you have to prove you are a truly an empire not in name only. Also to mention in Ireland there are duchy tier nations with "kingdom" as their cosmetic name.
@justadult3493
@justadult3493 2 года назад
Trebizond was an Empire in name, but it wasn’t even 100% sovereign, because Empire was established by the Georgian King Tamar. She used instability of 4th crusade and conquered Trebizond, gave it to her family member and called it an empire. For quite some time, Trebizond was just highly autonomous vassal state of Georgia
@ricardodiaz524
@ricardodiaz524 2 года назад
İm from trebizond (Trabzon). Trebizond Empire was part of roman Empire. Trebizond ♥️💙
@philip8498
@philip8498 2 года назад
"The people of trebizont only know war, bloodshed and financial hardship" Well, they are related to the greeks so thats unsurprising
@afk6888
@afk6888 2 года назад
As a Trapezuntine, I agree.
@someonethatlikesyou7713
@someonethatlikesyou7713 Год назад
@@afk6888 are you greek? or you just a turk that live there
@BoraCM
@BoraCM 2 года назад
After all this time, you’ve finally made a Trebizond video, and for that, I am grateful. I was very interested in Trebizond, so I started a non-Ironman Playthrough yesterday. I expanded westwards, initially annexing all of Candar, before allying Lithuania (the PU with Poland did not happen in my game, so I was very lucky). I then declared war on Imereti, and realised that I could sell Georgia’s cores to it in exchange for some money to pay off the burghers’ loans, which I did. I sold Odishi, and cored Abkhazia and Guria for myself. My relations with Georgia didn’t sour enough for them to break the alliance, which was nice. I thought about decreasing my army size to deal with the monthly deficit, or deleting the forts in Sinop and Trebizond, but the easiest way to ally Poland (Lithuania was in debt at the time, losing a war, and had fewer troops, so I needed Poland as well to help in an offensive war against the Ottomans) was to build up my army size. If Poland did not rival the Ottomans, then I would not be able to hope for an alliance with them. I also waited for the Ottomans to go to war with Hungary or some other Balkan country (Byzantium was gone by then, and I didn’t ally them before because of lore-related reasons), and, when it did, with Albania, I increased my relations with it enough to ally it, pushing its opinion of me over +100, giving me the ability to unsuccessfully enforce peace on the Ottomans, and join the war on Albania’s side. I basically had to siege down whatever I could in Anatolia, and hope I got over 10 warscore, before the Ottomans turned around and came to my area, and I was able to get a province out of it, Canik, and 120 ducats. I tried to win a few naval battles with Venice helping, but I eventually lost most of my ships, and accepted that I could not force the Ottomans to stay in the Balkans. When I get Poland allied to me, I will feel more confident about declaring an offensive war against the Ottomans, including their allies, Tunis, Ramazan, and Tlemcen. By the way, it’s 1459 in my game, and I’m completely debt-free. I’ve seen a Trebizond Playthrough on RU-vid, and they took out normal loans, which was painful to see, because loans from the burghers have a much lower interest rate, and increase their loyalty equilibrium, meaning that it’s easier to seize land from the estates, and pay back loans.
@bioemiliano
@bioemiliano 2 года назад
Selling provinces and then reconquering later, peak map gaming
@beaub152
@beaub152 2 года назад
Based grindset
@BoraCM
@BoraCM 2 года назад
I also got really lucky with an event, and gained a general with these pips: 3/6/3/3 (fire/shock/manoeuvre/siege). He also had 3 stars, when assigned to my army, although I don’t know what that means. My other two generals weren’t so good, and had no siege pips. If I didn’t have this good general, I probably would not have been able to get away with a province and a bunch of money in the peace deal with the Ottomans, while they were still occupied with Hungary, Venice, and Albania.
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 года назад
@@BoraCM The Amount Of Luck
@whiteoctober4582
@whiteoctober4582 2 года назад
Long live the Komnenoi!
@danshakuimo
@danshakuimo 2 года назад
He literally changed dynasties when he accepted the pretender rebels
@rush4in
@rush4in 2 года назад
@@danshakuimo Nah, nah, it's a Shogunate-type situation that one. The imperial family is still there, just on a vacation or something
@Arwilus
@Arwilus 2 года назад
Willingly allowing the Komnenoi to die out?! Disgusting...
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
It was either they die or Trebizond dies
@CoffeeSuccubus
@CoffeeSuccubus 2 года назад
I once escaped to the new world with Theodoro as Trebizond It was glorious.
@reirespecter
@reirespecter 2 года назад
How’d you go about it? When I tried this I easily no cb’d an Irish minor and was able to deter the ottos but could never work up the eco to make colonialism viable for me
@thevpnloverusedtobearandom7324
@thevpnloverusedtobearandom7324 2 года назад
@@reirespecter when i tried it i expanded asap till i had a coastline, expanded along the coast, reaching the horn of africa and oman and giving the ottomans what they wanted. eventually i could colonise the indian ocean, and eventually, get to australia before the europeand could.
@josephcola9662
@josephcola9662 2 года назад
Honestly, after those orders to the AI, I fully expected something ridiculous like AI Lubeck restoring the Hanseatic League, the Pope going ham, or AI Ethiopia restoring Aksum. Edit: Apparently since it's cursed, another crazy thing that could happen is AI Ruthenia but Catholic... which is exactly what happened in my Mulhouse into Swabia campaign (fully decentralized the HRE for the achievement, which required wiping Austria off the map because even with only 4 provinces, all 7 electors were still voting for them).
@Strawberry-be8id
@Strawberry-be8id 2 года назад
Galcia-Volyhenia Gains its indepdence and forms Ruthenia
@josephcola9662
@josephcola9662 2 года назад
@@Strawberry-be8id I actually had the AI Gallicia Volyhenia form Ruthenia in my Mulhouse run, lol. Unfortunately they were Catholic, so no Tsardom.
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
I began to regret it when the Teutons started winning
@Strawberry-be8id
@Strawberry-be8id 2 года назад
Catholic ruthenia is somehow more cursed
@haekarlos1156
@haekarlos1156 2 года назад
In one of my italy games someone actually formed aksum idk how they did it i didnt know who formed it but it is most likely ethiopia
@soren633
@soren633 2 года назад
I got the Komnenos Empire achievement after like 15 tries and god was it satisfying. Ended up expanding into Persia and lower Russia instead of reclaiming the Byzantine Empire. Became a very interesting campaign.
@dimitrijepenjaskovic9374
@dimitrijepenjaskovic9374 2 года назад
So basically you became the Seleucids
@MyTomServo
@MyTomServo 2 года назад
Can we have knock off Rome? No we have knock off Rome at home. Knock off Rome at home:
@rush4in
@rush4in 2 года назад
*Angry Komnenoi noises*
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Colour me OFFENDED, good sir!
@MyTomServo
@MyTomServo 2 года назад
@@TheSocialStreamers If this were Theodoro it'd be even more offensive. Can we have bargain basement knock off Rome? No we have bargain basement knock off Rome at home. Bargain basement Knock off Rome at home:
@sarmaticus9155
@sarmaticus9155 2 года назад
What a coincidence I was trying out Trebizont too recently. However you already lost as you lost the Komnenos-Dynastie which would have been the rightful heir to the Eastern Roman throne.
@zrader1
@zrader1 2 года назад
To do this campaign I used a lesser known strategy called panic and hire as many mercenaries as possible to ally big nations so ottomans won't attack me
@randyyy2609
@randyyy2609 2 года назад
I love this series of "weird countries that usually get eaten quickly"! Please continue :)
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Glad you’re enjoying it!
@kreon7472
@kreon7472 2 года назад
"Now the worst thing that can happen is..." Self fulfilling last words
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
I regretted them the second I spoke them.
@GrafSchocola
@GrafSchocola 2 года назад
Ulm is actually a quite nice place to visit! If you ever make it over there, I'd recommend trying some "Maultaschen" or some "Spätzle" (both traditional Swabian cuisine) and washing it down with a glass of "Williams" fruit brandy.
@griff5194
@griff5194 2 года назад
Got lucky as Trebizond and defeated the Ottomans, got the achievement, restored Byzantium, and never played them since
@lukehamilton973
@lukehamilton973 2 года назад
Trebizond is my favourite country in the game, I hope you continue this series!
@wizstorm172
@wizstorm172 2 года назад
Same I’ve played them so many times but never successfully finished a campaign
@elmirelmiroglu7224
@elmirelmiroglu7224 2 года назад
2:57 Tom when IRS asks about taxes
@oyuncugucu250
@oyuncugucu250 2 года назад
Finally The Eu4 video about my homeland. Thanks TheSocialStreamers
@Bitt3rSteel
@Bitt3rSteel 2 года назад
Trebizond will forever be my proudest playthrough
@poeb2153
@poeb2153 2 года назад
Once again, an eye catching title and probably a good video. keep it up!
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Thanks! Hopefully you enjoyed it!
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 2 года назад
Inb4 a massive Aksum comes and conquers the Mamelukes, Tunis conquers Naples and Ireland unites.
@x2ernal357
@x2ernal357 2 года назад
Hey guys, X2erNaL here, back with another Laith drip review: Today we have a pretty spicy yellow, black and white striped T-Shirt. This shirt definately cooks with some paprika, some hot chilli shirt, this shirt puts the "lifting spirits" into "shoplifting spirits". This is a pretty good shirt, on the dripometer about a 7/10, on the dripter scale about a 7.1, about 7 or 8 drips will be dropped when you wear this shirt, its not quite the absolute lake making, ice spiking drip machine that's the Christmas jumper but this shirt in all honesty possesses an above average amount of d r i p. Although it isn't quite the other 2 shirts, its not quite as dead as Casper Lee's youtube channel, so a calm and collected B tier S- Christmas Jumper A - Victoria 3 Shirt B - Yellow and white striped shirt C - Dark Grey Shirt D E F
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
I actually live for these - the only reason I do facecam
@Tiftz
@Tiftz 2 года назад
Most attractive map gamer
@rbereee
@rbereee 2 года назад
i have never in my life played eu4 i just enjoy watching the colours change
@ChristianSannino1904
@ChristianSannino1904 Год назад
Great video!
@idontlikerome2744
@idontlikerome2744 2 года назад
7:00 Little me starting my obsessive love for Rome back in the early 2000s
@ThighErda
@ThighErda 2 года назад
finally, someone does a video on my main nation...
@wizstorm172
@wizstorm172 2 года назад
You have no idea how long I’ve waited for this.
@HighAdmiral
@HighAdmiral 2 года назад
Very fun video, you had my attention, it was such a shame when it ended.
@leander4303
@leander4303 2 года назад
You: one the verge of bankrupcy the game: you can take the high income mission
@IronWolf123
@IronWolf123 2 года назад
Imagine being the Ottomans and some mountain state conquers all of the Caucasus in a few years. Oh, and did you select "Claiming provinces bordering provinces" as your age bonus?
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
They’ve noticed. Nope!
@roedagardet
@roedagardet 2 года назад
You guys are honestly my favourite content creators
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Thanks! Really appreciate it!
@melon_man_dan6888
@melon_man_dan6888 2 года назад
Idk, but I found this video funnier than the Athens one. I liked the facecam
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
High praise! Thanks!
@lorenzorosi5555
@lorenzorosi5555 2 года назад
Trebizond is actually much easier than Byzantium itself in ironman.. in my game I ended up having about 100 years of bankruptcy and maybe 200 yrs of consecutive wars with a huge Austria.. but so funny to have komnenos relatives in France, Austria, Russia, England and Castile, that really made the game worth it
@beaversforlife1298
@beaversforlife1298 2 года назад
the start was amazing with the orders to the ai xd
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
The bastards still TRIED!
@beaversforlife1298
@beaversforlife1298 2 года назад
@@TheSocialStreamers they never stop
@grimm42
@grimm42 2 года назад
Looks like you could do with a refresher on florrynomics. The crazy dutch mans way of handling debt and bankruptcy.
@finnsstories5256
@finnsstories5256 2 года назад
To anyone seeing this,you are awesome.
@shinyaltaria1388
@shinyaltaria1388 2 года назад
Thanks! You're also awesome for calling everyone awesome! Helps distract from exerstentialism!
@finnsstories5256
@finnsstories5256 2 года назад
@@shinyaltaria1388 thanks
@gaja9092
@gaja9092 2 года назад
@@shinyaltaria1388 gay
@shinyaltaria1388
@shinyaltaria1388 2 года назад
@@gaja9092 I mean, you probably mean it in the childish insult that's homophobic, but in gay's original meaning of happy, yeah, I am feeling that way right now.
@shinyaltaria1388
@shinyaltaria1388 2 года назад
@@finnsstories5256 you're welcome!
@Goggez
@Goggez 2 года назад
My Pontic ancestry approves of this!!!
@latinbrotherhood495
@latinbrotherhood495 2 года назад
Pontus stronk
@irontamgha8276
@irontamgha8276 2 года назад
Greetings from Trabzon brother
@kabobawsome
@kabobawsome 2 года назад
Continue this campaign, please. You stopped right before a bankruptcy-disaster 1-2 punch.
@rubenvanbelzen1940
@rubenvanbelzen1940 2 года назад
Yess please more of Trebizond! I once tried them, did ok(not financially) and took like 3 provinces from the ottomans one day. Only after the ottomans allied a strong France, I stopped playing because I was really boxed in. It is always nice to see people preform hard nations pretty well
@vicenteabalosdominguez5257
@vicenteabalosdominguez5257 2 года назад
I once tried a Trebizond campaign and I gotta say, my economic experience was just like yours. Also I managed to get an alliance with ottomans
@castertroy2411
@castertroy2411 2 года назад
Now i live there and we call there Trabzon
@markothegamer441
@markothegamer441 2 года назад
The empire that could good job with the whole conquering everything youre a real profesh player
@Vaelar2007
@Vaelar2007 2 года назад
video: About Trebizond Guy in thumbnail: Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos of The Eastern Roman Empire
@vampireknight5821
@vampireknight5821 2 года назад
ALL HAIL THE TRUE ROMAN EMPIRE!
@philip8498
@philip8498 2 года назад
Laith is playing a small nation? I guess the Ai of every nation just got replaced by skynet
@captainfatfoot2176
@captainfatfoot2176 Год назад
I tried this yesterday and managed to conquer all those little orthodox countries, vassal feed astrakhan, and conquer the north half of QQ. Also ate shirvan. It all ended when I got a peasant war followed by internal struggles while at 0 manpower and bankrupt.
@joelkipp7698
@joelkipp7698 2 года назад
Please go for the Trebizond empires achievment.
@sarauli7
@sarauli7 6 месяцев назад
The Trebizond Empire was founded by King Tamar and used as a springboard against the Ottoman Empire.
@gangstaspongebob2995
@gangstaspongebob2995 2 года назад
trebizond was essentially an army with a state
@geodim3904
@geodim3904 2 года назад
Byzantium 2: Pontic Boogaloo
@ThatsNotEnglish
@ThatsNotEnglish 2 года назад
super down to see you go to Ulm lol
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Should be wild!
@trevorking7083
@trevorking7083 2 года назад
Ottomans join coalition. "Right then that looks like a good place to end the video!"
@jasongonsalves2704
@jasongonsalves2704 2 года назад
You ever get that feeling of Deja-vu.
@powersell8589
@powersell8589 2 года назад
one of the last roman rump states
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 года назад
Last Time You Said "The Hardest Start" You Dominated And The Game Went As Strange As It Ever Got Before That Thing Between You And Burgundy
@lennart6111
@lennart6111 2 года назад
i am actually from ulm so yeah would be very proud if you'd actually go there
@RevolutionaryCaptain
@RevolutionaryCaptain 2 года назад
i got their achievement by doing the old escape to italy trick when you no cb pope right off the bat.
@overlord3083
@overlord3083 2 года назад
Watch scotland become next lotharingia
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
No please
@overlord3083
@overlord3083 2 года назад
@@TheSocialStreamers why not, would you not want to see scottish great britain? 😈
@imperatorgub6681
@imperatorgub6681 2 года назад
The real tragedy here is giving up the Komnenos dynasty (it was Alexios Komnenos that started the Crusades). That’s the main reason to play Trebizond. Love playing them. Usually get to where you are now before the whole world (Ottomans) turn on you and decide they’ve let you live a bit too long.
@luculucu6520
@luculucu6520 2 года назад
Holy shit, when are you gonna be in Ulm? I don't live far away from there and I really wanna go see you if you decide to go
@e_the_mans9853
@e_the_mans9853 8 месяцев назад
We need part2
@fiendish9474
@fiendish9474 2 года назад
In russian playthroughs I like to vassalize Trebizond to make a pretty good buffer state in the Caucases. Playing independently as Trebizond though requires a love for pain
@lightfallonthehead3842
@lightfallonthehead3842 2 года назад
becoming strong in caucasia is pretty historically accurate, you get good economy relatively good millitary a... oh wait its the ottomans!
@deuce2293
@deuce2293 7 месяцев назад
when playing in the caucasus it's terribly annoying that you don't have persia discovered from the start, so much diplomacy is missed out on from that
@nikxsda
@nikxsda 2 года назад
a little sidenote if you guys are really going to ulm be sure you're in the right ulm bc we have ulm und new ulm right next to ulm
@Southern_Gospel_Archives
@Southern_Gospel_Archives 2 года назад
My family was from Trapezounta :D
@matheusGMN
@matheusGMN 2 года назад
Damn, let's hope those mountain forts can eventually save you when the ottomans start knocing at the door!
@harrylion6689
@harrylion6689 2 года назад
Komnenoi empire is my proudest eu4 achievement
@sondrefrlich9307
@sondrefrlich9307 2 года назад
Inspired by this video I did the The Komnenoi Empire-achievment. So much pain. You're always piss poor with disloyal vassals and shit allies. Quantomans to the west, Qunturids to the east. Got the achievement by 1615, but boy was it a miserable experience
@davidoyarce4863
@davidoyarce4863 2 года назад
Will you get the achivement for trebizond ? The one where you get the empire rank
@DummyFace123
@DummyFace123 2 года назад
It actually had the most legitimate claim to the Roman Empire at the time
@joelmalec9904
@joelmalec9904 2 года назад
You know that you can get just a tad less AE by peacing out at the end of the year as AE ticks down in December and then there's less of s chance for a coalition
@theodoroball
@theodoroball 4 месяца назад
It was basically a Roman successor state, but the dynasty was not the same i think
@irontamgha8276
@irontamgha8276 2 года назад
Greetings from Trabzon
@joehelland1635
@joehelland1635 2 года назад
Just no cb east frisia? Or is that been patched out?
@trapaap6862
@trapaap6862 2 года назад
Hi laith! Know you won’t respond,but just wanted to say your my favorite EU4 content creator! Hope you have a good day 😄
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Thanks mate! Means a lot!
@trapaap6862
@trapaap6862 2 года назад
@@TheSocialStreamers no way you responded-so cool! : D
@minimart11723
@minimart11723 2 года назад
The easy win caucasian strategy is basically get to 8 provinces or so and ally muscovy within 10 years. Orthodox is the best religion in the game for that before the op manpower buff
@stevenstevenson6516
@stevenstevenson6516 2 года назад
Pls announce when both are in Ulm I will single-handedly drive there and introduce u to proper beer
@sergeantmajor_gross
@sergeantmajor_gross 2 года назад
I want more.
@gamgamesplayer4506
@gamgamesplayer4506 2 года назад
do a video in any nation but in your wars you can only accept the enemy peace treaty, and you can't make your own
@coryjackson5245
@coryjackson5245 2 года назад
Do you have random lucky nations
@alender6200
@alender6200 2 года назад
is there one video where laith doesnt sound like hes out of breath the entire time
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Welcome to the world of a microphone I haven’t figured out fully
@pete2389
@pete2389 Год назад
Trebizond needs a mission tree
@Dean00001
@Dean00001 2 года назад
*Making 999999999 Alts to make Him go to ULM*
@hjalmarfreidenvall1655
@hjalmarfreidenvall1655 2 года назад
Neat
@ricardodiaz524
@ricardodiaz524 2 года назад
Trabzon ♥️💙
@kuziziy4262
@kuziziy4262 2 года назад
Fun fact, trebizond is trabzon in turkish
@nieznajomyxd
@nieznajomyxd 2 года назад
Country that have hard start and i have played it lately is The Isles
@latinbrotherhood495
@latinbrotherhood495 2 года назад
Pontus stronk
@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 года назад
Indeed!
@sketchye5943
@sketchye5943 2 года назад
“Trapezuntine Circassia ”
@kopperbottom2803
@kopperbottom2803 2 года назад
Me when I hear mountain general music
@jaskim5723
@jaskim5723 2 года назад
Nothing weird this time? Does that mean Ming stays or blows apart..
@anubarak9184
@anubarak9184 2 года назад
yeah let's go time to bully Laith into forming rome for real
@connorhutchinson9615
@connorhutchinson9615 2 года назад
Can't wait for AI Scotland to form GB
@memeteam2692
@memeteam2692 Год назад
Trebizond at least has weak neighbors they can attack early with some help
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