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Is Your Holley Efi 02 Sensor Bad? Take a Look Inside my "Tune The Trilogy" Course 

Joe Simpson
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Take a look inside my "Tune the Trilogy" Holley EFI training course in this video, as we diagnose and repair a bad oxygen sensor.
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Комментарии : 43   
@benrossbach6501
@benrossbach6501 Год назад
If your on the fence about Joe's course, it's definitely worth it.
@rodgerreed4990
@rodgerreed4990 Год назад
I had a “Bosch” o2 sensor kick my a$$ with my sniper. It was going for 10-20 so fast at weird times. I checked everything but the o2 sensor because it was new. I installed a new o2 sensor and found. The one that was acting up was actually fake bosch sensor. I was so mad and happy at the same time because I fixed it. Thank you for your videos
@frankensteincreations4740
@frankensteincreations4740 2 месяца назад
Just had this same issue on a customer car. It would happen after blipping the throttle a few times. IAC would catch the engine and return to idle. You could set your watch to it after that about 3-4 Mississippi and the AFR gauge would sweep clear pegged to 18 and it would stumble and almost die and peg the IAC. It would either catch it and recover, or die. This would only occur after a few blips “small revs” of the engine. Would do it ever single time like clock work. Took out the knockoff Amazon sensor and put a Bosch in it. Problem solved. It does a similar thing now, but only will go to 14.5-15 and recover rather than peg it to 18:1 and die…
@The918OBS
@The918OBS Год назад
Thanks Joe my tuner turned me onto this video. This is very similar to what my truck is doing .
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics Год назад
here for broken spark plug pics
@cameron878
@cameron878 Год назад
When we get mine close, can we implement these safeties like joe talked about? I'm sure you already do, limiting the closed loop authority
@fc3sluis
@fc3sluis Год назад
Just for reference. When my Terminator X o2 went bad it would add 5% fuel every WOT pull. Didnt realize until my eyes were starting to burn lol
@cameron878
@cameron878 Год назад
Woah live comparison data, that's slick!
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics Год назад
DUDE NICE BEANIE
@Boosted370
@Boosted370 Год назад
Joe's videos are the best!
@FoxRob93
@FoxRob93 Год назад
Great video, weird to have a O2 fail like that too.
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 Год назад
Good work joe
@boostlab5137
@boostlab5137 Год назад
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what is going on with mine right now.. showing 20:1 at idle and 12.5:1 with some throttle and I can literally see black smoke coming out the hood stack from it being so rich.. I have the 02 in a sampling chamber and was thinking that was the issue, but not I'm thinking it is just a bad sensor..
@BKMDano17
@BKMDano17 Год назад
I'm not on the fence about Joe's course I do need to finish this engine and get it on a dyno with a carburetor to make sure everything is correct. I've heard some pretty bad stories of people trying to do a first start with EFI. That won't be for awhile unfortunately. BTW this problem would have been very hard to find without a Dyno.
@ArthurSperotto
@ArthurSperotto Год назад
You mentioned that the HP or Dominator O2 sensors are more expensive... aren't they all Bosch LSU4.9 unless you specifically get an NTK one?
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest Год назад
No. The sniper and term x use the 4.9
@scottgarmon4865
@scottgarmon4865 9 месяцев назад
My Holley Dominator eats those Bosch wideband sensors for breakfast for some reason. I’m on my forth sensor in about a year. I’m going to try the NTK sensor then if that fails I’m thinking I might have a bad driver with the Dominator.
@dannynorman9768
@dannynorman9768 11 месяцев назад
The truth every time keep it up 👍
@Trifiveguy
@Trifiveguy Год назад
Hey Joe I have a BBC WITH HP HOLLEY it started running really rich one day and to the point it wouldn’t Start the O2 was pegged at 35 it’s a holley Bosch I’ve bought a new NGK 554-100 new plugs an a new set of copper collector gaskets as the headman header collectors O2 is really close to the sensor I haven’t put the new parts in yet!! Two questions Could it run so bad it ruins the plugs ? Stopping it for trying to fire ? Can I use copper RTV on the copper gaskets to guarantee no leaks TIA
@brianmiller4466
@brianmiller4466 Месяц назад
I love your channel. Been following since i fired this money pit up. Anyway Ive been having wild afr readings from th TermX’s o2, which is backed up by a stand alone PLX meter(albeit a lil latent with data transfer even w sample turned all the way up) reporting to my digidash. Still im assuming its a bad sensor. Since i cant find anything definitive please, PRETTY PLEASE! Can you tell me will a holley 554-100(ntk sensor) work with. TermX? ANY help wood be fabulous! Most sincerely @meye wits end in Mi
@life_bycars
@life_bycars 5 месяцев назад
I had my original Holley sensor, go out and heard you could just replace it with the Bosch is Holley‘s specially calibrated that the Bosch won’t work?
@turbovicsatx2910
@turbovicsatx2910 4 месяца назад
What does it mean when the o2 readings jump around while
@Wilson_Racing
@Wilson_Racing 10 месяцев назад
When my Bosch O2 sensor died on my Sniper EFI it didn't go full lean but it locked itself at 15.5 AFR 90% of the time but still ran perfectly fine and revving it up didnt even change the reading. Replaced the sensor and the issue went away. A failed sensor does not always go full lean
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest 10 месяцев назад
Of course it doesn’t always go full lean. 15.5 is odd though. The most common are full lean or locking at 14.7 I’ve only seen a few lock at full rich. Sometimes they just go crazy and read all over the place. Sometimes they just get real slow and sometimes they appear to be working just fine they just read wrong. I’ve seen them fail in just about every way possible
@Wilson_Racing
@Wilson_Racing 10 месяцев назад
@@JoeSimpsonAtTempest I was told by several Holley techs that my sensor was fine because it wasn't going full lean but I insisted that it wasnt working correctly. Just wanted to share my odd experience and also say that your recent videos helped me figure out more settings that I didnt understand. Thanks!
@tonysamantha3943
@tonysamantha3943 5 месяцев назад
Just came across your video. I am having an issue with a new install that I just drove the first time. My afr seems to be reading correctly and then all of a sudden after only a mile or so, the afr readings just stop completly and dont move at all. Stops at different readings every time, maybe 12.50 one time and 14.20 the next. The afr fluctuates like it should, and then just stops fluctuating, and doesnt change any more, no matter what the throttle input is. On the next startup, the afr reads 28.0+ and struggles to start. Once started, the afr comes back down near the commanded reading and then the issue will reappear again. This sounding like an O2 sensor issue or something else? Any info is appreciated. Thanks
@Ribbityibzki
@Ribbityibzki Год назад
Was this a TermX car or HP/Dominator? You said you swapped from a Bosch to an NTK sensor. I know the TermX harness has the right plug for the NTK, but I thought the ECU just couldn't run the NTK sensor.
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest Год назад
It’s an HP ecu. You can’t run the ntk on a term X
@funfun8095
@funfun8095 Год назад
He said HP, at beginning.
@Ribbityibzki
@Ribbityibzki Год назад
@@funfun8095 my bad. Was listening while getting ready for work and must have missed it.
@funfun8095
@funfun8095 Год назад
@@Ribbityibzki Ah, ok. ;)
@gavwilldo
@gavwilldo Год назад
What you’re saying makes perfect sense however I like to take a different approach with my own car. I give closed loop and learn a bunch of authority, my logic is, when something goes wrong, it goes a long way off making it very obvious something is wrong straight away, if it’s only allowed to go 20% it might not be noticeable straight away and be 20% lean under full power and melt everything.
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest Год назад
Multiple ways to do everything. I’ve probably tuned several hundred cars just 100% open loop so it’s my go to. Closed loop seems to do more harm than good when you average out the good vs the bad
@michaelallen2501
@michaelallen2501 Год назад
I have a Terminator X system and I'm using the narrowband bungs on my longtube headers as the location for my Wideband. I feel like I've got a heater control strategy issue. Are these safe to run at 9 or 3 o'clock? Or do they need to be pointing down just a touch?
@funfun8095
@funfun8095 Год назад
Can you go over the different NTK sensors? Have heard about Lab grade vs other ones. How many NTK ones are there? Have been wondering if one from rockauto would work with EFI systems. A lot cheaper than getting them from Holley or Fueltech, etc.
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest
@JoeSimpsonAtTempest Год назад
The lab grade etc is for other controllers. With Holley I’d either just get the Holley sensor or the mad racing sensor.
@stevesummers4266
@stevesummers4266 Год назад
Great info thanks
@frankensteincreations4740
@frankensteincreations4740 2 месяца назад
Just had this same issue on a customer car. It would happen after blipping the throttle a few times. IAC would catch the engine and return to idle. You could set your watch to it after that about 3-4 Mississippi and the AFR gauge would sweep clear pegged to 18 and it would stumble and almost die and peg the IAC. It would either catch it and recover, or die. This would only occur after a few blips “small revs” of the engine. Would do it ever single time like clock work. Took out the knockoff Amazon sensor and put a Bosch in it. Problem solved. It does a similar thing now, but only will go to 14.5-15 and recover rather than peg it to 18:1 and die…
@ducejohnson1073
@ducejohnson1073 Месяц назад
Yo give me a call sir !!!!
@TurbineResearch
@TurbineResearch Год назад
I understand closed loop can save your bacon but it can also screw you over big time haha
@Crodgers88
@Crodgers88 Год назад
My car has been acting funny. I had it tuned and all did well, now when accelerating at wot it's cuts out dies and backfires kinda a loss for words even after new plugs and everything
@or-ian6973
@or-ian6973 6 месяцев назад
What was the issue?
@Crodgers88
@Crodgers88 6 месяцев назад
@@or-ian6973 come to find out when I was taking it to get tuned it rained. I didn't think. Nothing of it but make a long story short some how water go into one of the sealed relays and turned into a green copper corroded mess. Also a bad cam sensor. Both have been replaced and runs. Just haven't had a chance to take it out and test
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