Is Zellij the PERFECT Multiplexer? // Tmux Getting Dethroned!

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Zellij seems to gradually take Tmux's place when it comes to terminal multiplexing. It is self explanatory, feature-full, well documented and has a few killer features that are very appealing!
I'm covering here the basics and the pros and cons as I see them and how whether I'm seeming myself transitioning into it over Tmux.
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⏱ Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Getting started and Panes Mode
03:08 - Tabs
04:35 - Resize
05:14 - Session
05:28 - Killer Features
10:22 - Final thoughts
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@snieguzary 2 месяца назад

Zellij now has the "resurrect" feature built in!

@zachmoring284 Год назад

I love Zellij but I ended up using Kitty's built-in multiplexer because I can bind it to controls with the SUPER key. I don't like having to remap a CTRL+(something) or ALT+(something) in every single terminal app just to avoid conflicting with Zellij's controls. I wish they could add support for more modifiers or combinations of modifiers so that I could go back to using it - it ruled.

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Definitely! I did make *a lot* of changes to my config to suit my workflow. The video is already in the making 😉

@emersonbarros6815 Год назад

How do you use the multiplexing system in kitty to emulate sessions like tmux and zellij? Use tabs as sessions? The lack of something like sessions is what I'm missing for me to say that Kitty is a perfect terminal emulator. Sessions is a concept of multiplexers, so I understand that kitty being a terminal doesn't need to support that

@devopstoolbox Год назад

@@emersonbarros6815 true. Not a big kitty user so can’t say but this is missing from Zellij in some way, the concept exists but switching is a little bit of a pain

@billcarpenter1844 6 месяцев назад

While I agree he did give us the Lock which would let you use all those ctrl keys (Other than ctrl+g) anyway you want once you lock it.

@robertfletcher8964 3 месяца назад

same, every now and then I try one of these multiplexers and cant see any advantage over kitty

@BenSima 9 месяцев назад

The production quality of this video is next level

@devopstoolbox 9 месяцев назад

Thank you!!

@hotdog2c Год назад

Awesome video, i like how you show off the software within your own workflow. That makes it much more informative as it puts the features into perspective

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Thanks for the feedback!! This does reenforce something I had in mind and you and I are probably sharing the same view, I hope others too!

@digitaldisruptlabs Год назад

Nice review! I saw this tool few times out there, but not quite sure to use it. But now just by looking at this video I feel that I love it! I will give it try ~ thx

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Let me know how it went !

@SudeeptoDutta Год назад

Thank you, Omer, for making this video. This video will serve as a great starting point for someone trying Zellij for the first time.

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@AdrianAyala Год назад

Nice Dev. Thanks for introducing a sweet new application. I could never get into tmux cause I kept forgetting the key actions to do things. Just my fault for not spending a lot of time in it. But this Zellij looks great. I'll check it out during my weekend!

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Yes!! Let me know how it went

@pes18fan 2 месяца назад

Me too lol. Just discovered zellij, can't wait to get started with it

@famshare-esl2453 11 месяцев назад

Super helpful and excited to discover your content through this vid.

@devopstoolbox 11 месяцев назад

Thank you ❤️

@ManuelGonzales-ni9sh Год назад

Man I love your chanel, the content is top notch but I'm still a noob to even start to grasp most of it 😂... Hope you release some beginner tutorials at some point. Anyways, keep it up, big fan!

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Damn! What a nice thing to read first thing in the morning 🤩 To your question - feel free to always ask questions and make suggestions! There are a few videos I make solely based on viewers request so I’m open to anything! Thanks again mate! Much appreciated

@fahimanayet Год назад

woww😍😍 Just gave it a shot and I really liked it.

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Nice! Please come back with feedback, I wonder if others share the same excitement 😉

@fahimanayet Год назад

@@devopstoolbox I've kinda switched to it from Tmux. As it doesn't have any session switcher which is a bummer, but someone made a script to do almost like a session switcher via fzf (anyone wondering, can find the script in the issues), which saves the day. And I am enjoying this one so far.

@devopstoolbox Год назад

@@fahimanayet oh sweet!!! I have to test it

@a_maxed_out_handle_of_30_chars Год назад

aah, this looks good but i'm too comfortable with tmux now but will give it a try :)

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Same here mate, same here. I think it’s worth a shot, the two killer features and really playing a key role in my daily workflow for the past couple of weeks.

@jzmmm 7 месяцев назад

i use wezterm in macos. How do I get the ALT key working for the shortcuts?

@devopstoolbox 7 месяцев назад

Hi! What shortcuts specifically?

@jzmmm 7 месяцев назад

@@devopstoolbox when navigating panes, there's a shortcut for ALT+hjkl. It seems like any keybind that uses ALT doesn't work

@devopstoolbox 7 месяцев назад

@@jzmmm you’re right! I’m using alt as a global hot key for other things though. Thanks!

@gabriellopes3024 10 месяцев назад

Is it possible to hide the command bar in zellij ?

@devopstoolbox 10 месяцев назад

Still looking myself. Testing a new alpha layout I’ll share if I find a convenient way to do it

@KManAbout 2 месяца назад

Yes there is literally just read the manual

@elmalleable 6 месяцев назад

i love this and only 1 minute into the video

@devopstoolbox 6 месяцев назад

🙏🏽

@__sassan__ 11 месяцев назад

I’d prefer Zellij to TMUX but I find the UI a bit too much - I’d love a much simpler theme

@devopstoolbox 11 месяцев назад

Checkout my last video from yesterday where I’ve configured it to use the simplified UI and removed some unused items!

@user-gz9mw3yr2x Год назад

Really u know i freakin love zellij now

@devopstoolbox Год назад

😅

@noam65 Месяц назад

It is my hope that instead of causing the demise of tmux, that it will cause a friendly competition between the developers in both communities, for inspiring the improvement of both apps.

@devopstoolbox Месяц назад

Well said!!

@StiwieMayday Год назад

I'm very happy to say that both of the "killer features" are doable in tmux. - Popups $ tmux popup - Neovim copy mode $ tmux capture-pane -p -S | nvim -c 'set buftype=nofile' -c 'set nonumber' -c 'set local norelativenumber' + '$' As a keybind you have to send to the current terminal bind-key C-f send-keys "$command" Enter

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Incredible! I can’t believe I didn’t know about it earlier. I’m going to give this a try! The nvim dump is really cool and elegant, it’s just something I wish was native, but this works! Happy I made the video just to get this comment 😉

@StiwieMayday Год назад

@@devopstoolbox Hey, glad i could help! Wouldn't of stumbled on this either since i have never even thought this was possible! Great ARAM for thinking this up in the first place!

@StiwieMayday Год назад

@@devopstoolbox I am currently trying to get neovim and the terminal text aligned when "popping" in and out. Also would be nice to have the same highlighting as in the terminal. But i assume the only option is custom Treesitter file? Would be nice to have them exactly the same in both.

@JohnKarlos Год назад

There are some downsides of tmux popup: it stops refreshing other panes, you can have only one popup, you can hide / show it, you can not resize it, you can not switch back and forth.

@user-xd5gd4pc9h Год назад

Awesome

@lintaoamons5712 Год назад

Looks promising~ I am about to spend my time with Vimux, to make myself more comfortable with nvim and tmux~ Btw, tmux also have the floating window~ And it took a lot of screen space, can it be hidden?

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Hey! Not aware of tmux offering the same but happy to learn. Can you refer me? About the space taken, you can either resize or better yet - hide and show back again when you need it! That’s why I Iike it so much

@lintaoamons5712 Год назад

@@devopstoolbox github.com/LintaoAmons/CoolStuffes/blob/main/tmux/.tmux.conf#L128

@adicide9070 9 месяцев назад

thing is this clutter the screen like crazy, and not only because I'm 80% of the time on the laptop screen, but also because I need a minimal fee, I'm not sure this'll ever fit. notice how tmux just gets out of your way, visually speaking?

@devopstoolbox 9 месяцев назад

Totally. There’s a minimal layout you can use and also remove window borders that help but I definitely think it should offer the flexibility of configuring that on your own. There was just a recent version released that I’m going to explore and review

@adicide9070 9 месяцев назад

@@devopstoolbox thanks, I'll look into it!

@khanriza 7 месяцев назад

I gave Zellij a solid try (and I may return to it in the future), but Tmux (coupled with Tmuxinator's configs) makes Tmux so seamless with Neovim. Great video though, subbed.

@devopstoolbox 7 месяцев назад

Thanks mate! I have to agree to be honest. But for users who are new to the terminal or don’t have the skills / energy to make Tmux tweaked to their liking Zellij is an excellent option

@chenkaihong Месяц назад

mann people has so much time to explore new tools, for me vim and tmux has done a good job then tha's it wkwkwk

@sivuyilemagutywa5286 8 месяцев назад

For my use case Tmux is still good and I don't see my self switching to Zellij. I feel like Tmux is not in my face, but Zellij looks like a cool tool.

@devopstoolbox 8 месяцев назад

I totally get where you’re coming from! I’ll release another vid with the new version, maybe you’ll like the new features

@avinashdubey6503 4 месяца назад

what terminal you are using?

@devopstoolbox 4 месяца назад

Depends. Used to run Alacritty for a long while, the videos were mostly shot with iTerm. Today, I'm doing both within Wezterm and I'm not going back. If you want my config it's here: dotfiles.omerxx.com

@TheDarkOneSC2 2 месяца назад

Ah Zellij its not bad it was my first multiplexer experience but i switch to tmux and now it just feels right

@Skmecs 5 месяцев назад

Zellij have resurrect now

@devopstoolbox 5 месяцев назад

It does! Mentioned it in a recent video!

@murtadha96 Год назад

I love your videos but they almost all need a large volume boost.

@devopstoolbox Год назад

Not the first time I’m hearing this so thank you! I’ll make sure to improve going forward!

@spasham74 Месяц назад

So what is your go to multiplex now? Is it Tmux or Zellij?

@devopstoolbox Месяц назад

Tmux 😅

@thesaintseiya 26 дней назад

@@devopstoolbox hey I'm just starting to get into multiplexers, could you explain briefly why? :) I'm torn between these two

@devopstoolbox 26 дней назад

@@thesaintseiya I think it boils down to preference. Zellij is much easier to get started with and I think that for a new comer the ramp up is quick and convenient. That said, Tmux is much more customisable. This allows for a ton of plugins, and scripting options that I personally prefer. For example, you can check my Github for plugins I created like the SessionX session manager, or the Floax plugin that adds floating panes. github.com/omerxx/tmux-sessionx

@thesaintseiya 26 дней назад

@@devopstoolbox thanks for the quick response man

@Endelin 8 месяцев назад

I've found the performance of zellij over ssh to be surprisingly very bad. I hope they fix it.

@devopstoolbox 8 месяцев назад

That’s interesting input. But how does SSH come in here? The multiplexer shouldn’t have an effect here. Or I’m missing something

@Endelin 8 месяцев назад

I agree that it shouldn't have an effect. But when I've SSH'ed on a laptop to a desktop host, and ran zellij on the host it gets slow. Running zellij on the laptop and using ssh in individual panes seems fine. I haven't tried in a few versions, maybe it's already fixed.@@devopstoolbox

@devopstoolbox 8 месяцев назад

@@Endelin sounds like a remote machine that was very loaded / had limited resources. If that’s not the case maybe worth opening a GitHub issue. In any event, I’ll test it out as well

@Endelin 8 месяцев назад

Good news. I couldn't reproduce the issue with a M1 MacMini as the host.@@devopstoolbox

@richarmunicosamaniego8216 Месяц назад

And what about performance ... I tested that many months ago (following the original video) on termux in my Galaxy tab s7+/s23+ and memory comsumption is very poor, zellij executes many threads, IMHO I still prefer tmux, BTW yazi is better than ranger

@devopstoolbox Месяц назад

I actually moved to Yazi since :) As for mem consumption, TBH, I didn't check it, at least not thoroughly, so maybe that deserves some more exploration. For other reasons, I kept using Tmux since. But I'm watching Zellij closely

@jorgen0lsen863 Месяц назад

Floating windows is nice, but it will take more than that to move us old timer tmux users to another system.

@devopstoolbox Месяц назад

I.... agree :)

@garciajero Год назад

i have heard about this but tmux it's hard to dethrone , thanks for this review it looks really nice but i don't think it's worth the jump . I still remember the days i said tmux will never replace screen and look at the world now , so i can be 100% wrong

@devopstoolbox Год назад

I agree! And of course it’s not for everyone. Some people value more features than others. It’s surely not as mature as tmux and has a long way, but it is promising!

@garciajero Год назад

@@devopstoolbox yes it looks quite promising!

@AntonioRonde 7 месяцев назад

This video is way too quiet, pls provide a higher volume in future videos

@devopstoolbox 7 месяцев назад

Hi, I will do my best to

@urzalukaskubicek9690 21 день назад

I am just using screen lol

@adicide9070 9 месяцев назад

um tmux please.

@devopstoolbox 9 месяцев назад

I’m still very much a tmux user but you gotta give it for Zellij! The effort is super impressive and I think it’s going places. I’m definitely watching this space

@adicide9070 9 месяцев назад

@@devopstoolbox so why have you not switched from tmux?

@devopstoolbox 9 месяцев назад

@@adicide9070 I did, for a while. Then I missed having sessions and resurrect and moved back. Stayed with tmux mostly for the ability to customize looks. I’m testing the version that just came out recently and will provide a more in depth review there. I’m also in touch with the creator - Aram to help make Zellij a real alternative!

@adicide9070 9 месяцев назад

@@devopstoolbox dude, now my whole flow is built around persisting sessions with resurrect. but I do feel like having a floating terminal move up from nvim to tmux/zellij is neat. toggleterm in nvim works so-so for me. one just lives with it, as far as I'm concerned. to be honest, I'm surprised resurrect is not built into tmux :/ and I'm sure zellij could use this kind of thing as well, right?