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Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with one of the most iconic athletes who just happens to be their long time idol, NBA hall of famer, Isiah Thomas. The original Bad Boy of Detroit Pistons is opening up and talking everything from his relationship with Magic Johnson to Detroit Pistons changing the game to sharing his side of the infamous Michael Jordan feud.
Isiah starts the show saying very simply that he is going to state facts and you can’t argue facts and that it’s one thing to win a championship in the NBA but it’s another to win a championship at every level ever played.
Growing up on the West Side of Chicago, Isiah shares how his upbringing was shaped by his mother’s guidance and a family first mentality where his mother cared more about the type of man he’d become vs the money and opportunity being offered. His mom’s influence was so great, it became her decision where he played college basketball and also who he played for.
Explaining how he ended up in Bloomington, Indiana playing for Bobby Knight, he expounds on the life lessons that shaped him there not just winning back to back collegiate championships.
The West Side of Chicago is home to many activists and organizations such as Fred Hampton, Martin Luther King Jr, and The Black Panther Party. Isiah grew up in this environment and recalls marching alongside his mother with Dr.King. Spearheading change at the national level, Isiah used his local groundwork in Detroit to advocate for Black journalists covering the team, more rights for Black NBA players leaving a greater impact with his legacy not just on the court but in culture.
Isiah makes his case known for why so many people overlook Detroit Pistons as transcending the NBA and shares what the team really did for the league and how they were the firsts to do many things back then setting the example of how teams should be and move.
Known for his historic rivalry with Michael Jordan, Ryan asks what were his thoughts on the way his character was portrayed by Jordan in The Last Dance. Isiah provides The Pivot with an exclusive inside look to his true relationship with MJ and goes on to say that he always looked out for Michael and that their families were even close. He also speaks about how rules within the NBA were changed to protect Michael Jordan. Isaih doesn’t hold back as he shares his thoughts on while he was deemed the a-hole of the NBA when in fact he was the nice guy.
Lastly, Isiah lets the guys in on the history of his and Magic’s close relationship and what led up to their legendary interview. He gives credit to the current legends playing the game such as Lebron James, Stephen Curry, and Kevin Durant, and says they’ve transformed the game in a way we may never see again.
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@kris.jo2
@kris.jo2 Год назад
Wow the guts and courage of that mom to say "my son is not for sale".. knowing you have no food, no electricity.. what a woman!!
@percybland256
@percybland256 Год назад
WOMEN HAD CHARACTER AND COURAGE THEN!! WILLING TO DIE FOR IT!!!
@malcolmx724
@malcolmx724 Год назад
I'm 60yrs old from NYC. It wasn't guts, courage...pride, duty, no nonsense, strength! It had to be by the "good book" religious women, who would not comprise! It allowed me and my sister, to the first and only from our generation to receive BAs and masters degrees. All our kids have at least BAs, one a PhD. God rest her wonderful soul🙏🏾
@Comedyvibes
@Comedyvibes Год назад
Jesus Loves you and wants you to accept him as your Lord and saviour
@ladonmclemore927
@ladonmclemore927 Год назад
Zeke giving nothing but FACTS and Receipts!!!🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@dionmorgan8482
@dionmorgan8482 Год назад
Real shit 💯 bacc in da day mom these young mom now dam 🦫💯
@JasonWalkerJamaica
@JasonWalkerJamaica Год назад
“Don’t mistake honesty & truth, as my dislike or disdain” - great line Isiah Thomas!
@DrPhill96
@DrPhill96 Год назад
Dislike* or distain.
@JuiceJonesCreates.
@JuiceJonesCreates. Год назад
Facts
@casanovacasanova5464
@casanovacasanova5464 Год назад
I got to remember this Quote
@leslieevans3259
@leslieevans3259 Год назад
@@DrPhill96 *disdain*
@JohnWick-gl6mw
@JohnWick-gl6mw Год назад
Cold 🥶 🧊
@graysonred2641
@graysonred2641 Год назад
“My son’s not for sale” I respect the resilience from his mother
@johnc.richardson2713
@johnc.richardson2713 Год назад
As a life-long MJ fan, I came here to call BS when I heard it. I didn't do anything to this dude but still feel like I owe him an apology. He gave great context to the situations he's been in and feel like I really understand the man. Great interview.
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
@emmanuelenyinwa1443 Год назад
Big of you to acknowledge that. Not the biggest Isiah fan, but notice how there was BARELY any mention of how jaw dropping AWESOME he was as a basketball player. Somehow, the MAN himself seems bigger than the player, which is an amazing accomplishment by itself.
@phade2blaq
@phade2blaq Год назад
The NBA much the way they did for Lebron wanted to push Jordan into an ECF or NBA Finals but Philly, Boston, and LA were too damn good and Jordan could not beat them by himself nor with the roles players he had around him early on.
@Solis.shck574
@Solis.shck574 Год назад
@@phade2blaq The NBA did not like Lebron the same way they liked MJ tho. Even when Bron came to the league he didn't have a franchise that wanted to build around him. He was the KD for 4 years in Miami before he came back to Cleveland
@robertcherry7190
@robertcherry7190 Год назад
Excellent post. Good for you.
@frankodilon5807
@frankodilon5807 Год назад
When the media tells you something else
@lilboosie5
@lilboosie5 Год назад
Can we take minute to realize how great he looks at 61 years old 🙌🏾
@arthurfonzarelli9828
@arthurfonzarelli9828 Год назад
I just wrote the same thing but I've said this forever with him. I seriously don't think there is a younger looking person I've ever seen in my life at 61. He could seriously pass for 35 years old it's amazing
@lilboosie5
@lilboosie5 Год назад
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 yes indeed. He's always smiling too
@LeslieErin44
@LeslieErin44 Год назад
Isiah Thomas will forever be my all time favorite NBA player.
@arthurfonzarelli9828
@arthurfonzarelli9828 Год назад
@@LeslieErin44 me as well. You must probably be around 50 years old I bet. Probably grow up in the Michigan area as well. The Pistons are a perfect story from that era of how a team got better and better and better each year until they want it all. Couple times they fell short it was almost storybook
@hairjordan2620
@hairjordan2620 Год назад
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 BJ Armstrong
@billyblackmon4796
@billyblackmon4796 Год назад
Isiah always smiles when he talks and he speaks with emphasis and clarity. His pacing and his hand gestures are unique and emphatic. What a gift he has with his ability to talk and communicate
@jay1winner
@jay1winner Год назад
I said the same thing
@theinsite2668
@theinsite2668 Год назад
Yeah he’s very educated. He said he would have been a lawyer if he didn’t play basketball
@DEEDUBZ
@DEEDUBZ Год назад
The Man is a national treasure
@darnellplan5015
@darnellplan5015 Год назад
Obama spoke the same way too
@nelsonrivera764
@nelsonrivera764 Год назад
he is the epitome of eloquence
@luismoreno9633
@luismoreno9633 Год назад
Only player to beat Bird, Magic, and Jordan on his way to 2 championships. GOAT
@topshelf2
@topshelf2 Год назад
All Facts
@robbyrobinson4500
@robbyrobinson4500 10 месяцев назад
He is not goat status at all. But he is in beast status
@reallll2778
@reallll2778 7 месяцев назад
And if we being honest it should have been 3 they got robbed in 1988 game 6
@chinevman1582
@chinevman1582 26 дней назад
​@@robbyrobinson4500thnks for correcting Luis Moreno
@raw720
@raw720 Год назад
I'm born and raised in Detroit. What the world doesn't understand is that Detroit was basically hopeless. Isiah came to Detroit when it had been the murder capital for 4 years straight, and would continue to be so until 1986. It wasn't until I watched Zeke and the Pistons battle against the NBA one man gang, Bernard King. The games the Pistons won it seemed like the city was nicer to each other on those days. The city had something to be proud of. Not to mention the Pistons was something that all races could be proud of. Detroit is the Blackest city in the whole USA. It was crazy to see Caucasians happily discussing basketball with Blacks, Arabs and Hispanics. The atmosphere of the city changed because of what Zeke brought to The D. Thanks Zeke! The D loves you no matter what! JUST REMEMBER... YOU CAN'T HAVE BATMAN WITHOUT THE JOKER. YOU CAN'T HAVE SUPERMAN WITHOUT LEX LUTHER, SO YOU CAN'T HAVE MAGIC, BIRD OR JORDAN WITHOUT ZEKE!
@braxtonthomas6194
@braxtonthomas6194 10 месяцев назад
Very well written. Great narrative of the time. I was there also. Detroit westside. Livernois and Tireman. Chadsey Mackenzie Northwestern The Kronk The Y The Boys Club Webber Drew Munger Sherrill Pattengail.
@SPtheGREAT
@SPtheGREAT 9 месяцев назад
FACTS!!!
@agreen06
@agreen06 Год назад
I'm 53 years old, and as a proud Detroiter, I can't find adequate words to describe what this man has meant to me, and our city. He is our hero. My son was born 3 years after Isiah Thomas retired. He grew up loving basketball, and modeled his game after his Dad's favorite player. I still carry this man's 1986 card in my wallet to this day.
@tomascancel8227
@tomascancel8227 Год назад
Same here born and raised and he was and is a legend over here
@albread
@albread Год назад
Detroit in the house.
@maciekjoker9095
@maciekjoker9095 Год назад
Man, im form other side of Earth - Europe. I was born in 1989 and i like 80s and 90s NBA League a lot. Also Thomas. Great Detroit, 2x nba champ, bad boys. I still watching nba from that time. I have a big collection of classics games amd finals.
@TheBaldBabe
@TheBaldBabe Год назад
@@maciekjoker9095that’s dope!
@phade2blaq
@phade2blaq Год назад
Isiah is the real deal and that's why he always caught flack because unlike Jordan and Magic, Isiah was not an Uncle Tom. On top of that he doesn't nor has he ever sugarcoated how he grew up in extreme poverty. Could you imagine Magic or Jordan sitting in an interview saying they had roaches and no lights and no food. Isiah keeps it 100!
@b.o.1951
@b.o.1951 Год назад
This was one of the best interviews of the year. The Pivot keeps getting better and better. Shout out the Legend Mr Isiah Thomas 🙏🏽
@23kingdaze
@23kingdaze Год назад
Can we stop with the better and better narrative! They haven’t missed yet , they are the top of the chain
@restEZmo
@restEZmo Год назад
💪🏾💯✊🏾
@Ohsosweettango
@Ohsosweettango Год назад
Agreed. The respect and reverence are off the charts, yet there still the humility and depth. Much appreciated.
@majorbarnes4090
@majorbarnes4090 Год назад
Ain't that the truth
@jamesthomes303
@jamesthomes303 Год назад
@@23kingdaze can't stop won't stop pivot podcast they get down baby
@mhouston06
@mhouston06 Год назад
Isiah speaks of the summer when he was with Magic, Mark Aguirre, George Gervin, and Dr. J... they were all at the Dr. Tucker/ Magic Johnson camp in East Lansing that summer. I was a high school player then and had the privilege of playing at that camp. I stood on the sideline after one session and talked with Isiah about life. He spoke to me as a person and not as a basketball player. I remember the kindness they showed and how they understood they were more than players to us.
@c.p.h.9264
@c.p.h.9264 Год назад
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! shot out to Tucks Camp (Gimme 5 on ready!) I went the years Steve Smith was the main attraction...some of the best times of my basketball life ✌🏾
@marquemarano969
@marquemarano969 8 дней назад
@mhouston06 I was there that year also, I was in the sixth grade and I played on the same team as Isaiah nephew at the camp.
@swilliam81
@swilliam81 Год назад
Love Isaiah! So underrated. We need a part two to highlight his basketball accomplishments. Dude played game 6 of the 1988 Finals and scored 25 points in the third quarter on ONE foot!!!! Legend!!!!!
@mrbdx
@mrbdx Год назад
Talk about it!!!
@erikajones6405
@erikajones6405 Год назад
An Isiah Thomas DOCUMENTARY is NEEDED!!! LOVED every minute of the interview!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@tellitlikeitisfresh6541
@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 Год назад
Cap
@IZZICC
@IZZICC Год назад
Definitely overdue
@T..1147
@T..1147 Год назад
It's called a mother's courage
@JasonWalkerJamaica
@JasonWalkerJamaica Год назад
FAAAACCCTTTSSSSSS!!!!!! Pleeeeease!
@chowoods
@chowoods Год назад
They did a TV movie about his mother back in the day
@ballritualzprod
@ballritualzprod Год назад
Bad Boys group chat 2:30 600k subs - 5:00 Coach Knight - 9:46 IT mom with a gun - 13:32 Family of activist - 20:05 IT called an asshole - 28:44 MJ getting to Chicago - 34:10 5 GM’s - 35:49 Bad Boys lockerroom - 39:12 Piston road to the finals- 42:15 1988 Game 6 - 46:40 MJ/LeBron money made - 52:25 Magic Johnson - 53:50 IT as a coach - 1:06:30 Fan meets IT & cries - 1:12:20 IT documentary ? - 1:15:18
@brandonbeauchamp6576
@brandonbeauchamp6576 Год назад
Appreciate it goat 🐐🐐🐐
@theplug201
@theplug201 Год назад
Thank you man 🙌🏿
@neal6473
@neal6473 Год назад
Great information thank you.
@MeaganBetter
@MeaganBetter Год назад
Appreciate you!!!
@FBaned
@FBaned Год назад
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@supanuh
@supanuh Год назад
What Isaiah Thomas imparted in honesty, wisdom and generosity in this interview blows "The Last Dance" out of the water every time. This was amazing. I enjoyed it very much.
@Dadrofsports
@Dadrofsports Год назад
Listening to Zeke talk about always wanting to make someone's day when he meets them. He's telling the truth. Back in 91 or 92.....Isiah truck was broke down on the West side of Detroit. A Total Gas station on Grand River and the Southfield Fwy(My Detroiters know where that is) I met him as a 8th grader right before 8th grade tryouts. He talked to me for 20 minutes waiting on a tow truck...it was an awesome experience. 35+ years later, I still remember that day. Zeke has always been my idol.
@blacknmildjones6241
@blacknmildjones6241 Год назад
Zeke looks harmless, mild mannered, soft spoken but dude is a stone cold killer at heart on the court. Respect 💯💯
@RemoWilliams1227
@RemoWilliams1227 Год назад
Truly, absolute killer mentality like Mike and Kobe, Isaiah wanted to step on your kneck and rip your heart out.
@samueljett4766
@samueljett4766 Год назад
What's crazy was His Brother was Better
@ocampbell1954
@ocampbell1954 Год назад
Marvin Harrison. Don't let that nice guy shyt fool you.
@rasulsamad5860
@rasulsamad5860 Год назад
@@samueljett4766 really?
@jamarrjenkins8824
@jamarrjenkins8824 Год назад
Isiah telling unknown stories backed by facts. I love it!
@tellitlikeitisfresh6541
@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 Год назад
Cap
@Shemzinho
@Shemzinho Год назад
@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 prove it then
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Год назад
What’s facts
@dsongbird
@dsongbird Год назад
He is still only speaking from his perspective
@terryburney545
@terryburney545 Год назад
@@Shemzinhodid you not listen our your hate for the man got you so gone that you don’t want to hear truth, plus go research
@lucyd3408
@lucyd3408 Месяц назад
Amazing interview...Isiah preached to never forget where you come from....God bless Isiah and his mother. One of the best interviews ...
@damonwashington7205
@damonwashington7205 Год назад
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if you ask any native Detroiter how they feel about Zeke, nobody is gonna have anything bad to say. Isiah Lord Thomas is easily one of the most beloved figures in my City. Zeke came to the D when we needed him the most. In the early 80s unfortunately we were mostly in the news for crime related issues. We, the city, was just trying to find something to be positive about. And Mary Thomas blessed us with her baby boy. Zeke gave us hope. He was everything that Detroit was about. Everything we needed. Zeke was/is a humble cat and even tho he was a celebrity, he was never unapproachable. He was/is always obliging and friendly with anyone. You could catch Zeke at a local barbecue spot or getting a haircut in the hood by himself. He was/is just a solid cat. And most importantly, Zeke was a killer on the floor. If he broke his right hand, he'd give you 30 with the left. Played with every type of injury. Bloodied and bruised he went to war every night. That's why we love Zeke. He was from Chicago but he had the heart and grit of someone from the D. If he never gave us any championship, we'd still feel the same way about him. But Zeke delivered. And we are eternally grateful for Detroit's Adopted Son. God Bless Mary Thomas for sending us her baby boy. Bad Boys For Life!!✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽💯💯💯
@derreckmcintosh
@derreckmcintosh Год назад
As a man that grew up in the same neighborhood of Isiah I must say I'm proud of the man he was and is
@goodjohnhunting
@goodjohnhunting Год назад
Awesome
@ishetrying
@ishetrying Год назад
We legitimately need an eight part documentary about Isiah Thomas. He has an incredible story even before he gets to the NBA and the story continues after he's done as a player. Also in telling his story well you can talk about so many societal issues.
@ishetrying
@ishetrying Год назад
Also, I meant to say thank you so much for this episode. This is one of the best interviews I've seen with Isiah.
@relaxsleepdreamrepeat_
@relaxsleepdreamrepeat_ Год назад
They made a movie about his mother..The Mary Thomas story
@fredleeland2464
@fredleeland2464 Год назад
The amount of kids that looked up to him in the 80s for getting to the top in basketball is absurd Then the NBA had to commodize the "struggle" to sell shoea for MJ and Lebron smh
@melijahcopeland4101
@melijahcopeland4101 Год назад
No we don’t
@Edd1e8
@Edd1e8 Год назад
I’m a Laker fan and Magic has always been my favorite player, but Isiah has to be the most inspirational to me as an adult who’s encountered countless hardships. Isiah did the most with the least around him. He’s the definition of enduring and perseverance. That part about him losing a fist fight with the host says it all. He’ll literally just keep coming back and that’s how they played ball. When I look back at their 1988 team, they didn’t look like much on paper. But it was the war on every possession that eventually beat the opponents. Btw - I do think that 88 team had more talent than 89 with Aguirre :)
@redan12
@redan12 Год назад
This is why the pivot is good they not afraid to ask controversial questions
@justinfatso6727
@justinfatso6727 Год назад
Bobby knight was definitely wild. Ready throw hands with a recruits brother lol
@kennethcarmen2152
@kennethcarmen2152 Год назад
I had the pleasure of working with isiah thomas at NBC, one of the greatest people I've ever met! Strong, humble, friendly and no nonsense at the same time!!
@davidhall4401
@davidhall4401 Год назад
He seems very down to earth like a regular guy on the street, similar to John Stockton. I'm glad he's not coaching anymore because he wasn't happy. I think Zeke is a great basketball mind, but they didn't want him to succeed as a coach.
@MrBjorn6
@MrBjorn6 Год назад
@@davidhall4401 my cousin was his neighbor in Indiana, he was extremely nice 👍
@gambitchips3329
@gambitchips3329 Год назад
Shut up
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 Год назад
@@davidhall4401 He was a real good commentator in the 90's as well.
@davidhall4401
@davidhall4401 Год назад
@@poocrayon4588 Yeah he was. Zeke covered all the big games back then.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored Год назад
A real point Guard that set up his team mate for success, get 9-10 assists score 20+ without ball hogging and got real handles that don't carry, travel... Real Basketball player
@MrAitraining
@MrAitraining Год назад
Yeah I wish there was more passing compilation vids of Isiah on youtube. That was my fav part of his game.
@mitchellbrock3463
@mitchellbrock3463 Год назад
Growing up in Detroit in the 80s during the Bad Boys era, this is hands-down my favorite episode of The Pivot. Great job fellas!
@smartwork8477
@smartwork8477 Год назад
Yeah, I love this podcast. Yeah that was cold. Question, I'm starting a new channel. Are you interested in winning prizes in exchange for listening to one song?
@dondidi2726
@dondidi2726 Год назад
This interview made me realize why these dudes left Im Athlete! I think they just wanted to shine more light on deeper cultural topics, rather than the commercial approach of Im Athlete! And Isiah, he is that wise&fun Uncle that every youngin in the fam loves! Great interview!
@lukata77
@lukata77 Год назад
I'm 50 years old, I was in 9th grade during the Bad Boy Era and I been watching the Pistons since Isiah was in his 3rd year and those outside of Detroit can't even fathom how much we loved Zeke, and not just for being an all star and not just for winning us a couple of championships but because he stood up for our community and he loved our community and he gave to our community and he was our community. Isiah could walk through any hood in Detroit and we had pure love for him because he was always so accessible and the most professional role model I've ever seen as an athlete! Detroit loves you Zeke!
@gtspeed600hp
@gtspeed600hp Год назад
FACTS!!! Detroit born, and raised here with you.
@WeKnowTheDifference
@WeKnowTheDifference Год назад
Man that's love bro. I'm from out west in Chicago and we love Zeke until the Pistons started beating our ass literally. He's right that they painted the picture that he was the ring leader. I have a new love for Zeke after watching this interview. We missed out on who he was and what he meant in the Chi cause we loved Mike.
@lukata77
@lukata77 Год назад
@@gtspeed600hp 💯
@lukata77
@lukata77 Год назад
@@WeKnowTheDifference Man we were butthurt when Jordan and The Bulls learned how to beat us with pure athleticism and better defense, I hate that The Bad Boys walked out on y'all guys but at the end of the day Chicago earned and fought their way to the top. And we loved Zeke because that true Chicago toughness was what we respected here in the D! 💯
@shellshockdc
@shellshockdc Год назад
This was gold....From the questions, to letting Isaiah tell his story without interrupting, was truly priceless!
@tennaj1367
@tennaj1367 Год назад
Respect! 👍 BTW.. *Isiah Thomas is the best pound for pound players ever!
@deliliankramo7520
@deliliankramo7520 Год назад
One of the reasons they left Brandon Marshall too.. Dude interrupts people ALL THE TUME!
@pjsmokke
@pjsmokke Год назад
We lived around the corner from Isiah when he first moved to Detroit when he got drafted and when we found out he lived there a couple of my younger brothers knocked on his door and asked the people there for Isiah to come out and play like he was a kid like us, he came out and played basketball on his rim for a little while, I missed out that day, bit I saw him a the store a couple times, real cool dude
@cyrushb2916
@cyrushb2916 Год назад
I'm an even bigger Isaiah Thomas fan than I was before. I saw him once in an airport and dude was so cool and humble when I realized who he was that he won over a lifetime Celtics fan who was at the parades in the 80's
@thesamulous
@thesamulous Год назад
I am a 80s baby from Detroit. The Pistons ended both the Celtic and Laker dynasties and was the last team to beat the Bulls eventual dynasty. Bad Boys are the greatest team in the history of Detroit and Isiah is one of the greatest team leaders in NBA history.
@MylesWMiller
@MylesWMiller Год назад
I grew up in the D during the 80s also and without a shadow of a doubt, you are correct!!!
@ericharris7577
@ericharris7577 Год назад
Yes sir, bad Boys for life
@stevemays1478
@stevemays1478 Год назад
Yes Indeed!!!!
@jimmiestuckeyiii
@jimmiestuckeyiii Год назад
All facts!
@Thedarknight73
@Thedarknight73 Год назад
It's crazy... Channing ,Fred, and RC ... literally didn't say too many words in that interview they were almost Starstruck a little and so attentive to what it had to say because you know Channing he'll go off the rails... that was one of the best interviews I've seen in a long time
@soniagodlieb1896
@soniagodlieb1896 Год назад
AMEN🙏🏽
@kylebyrne8076
@kylebyrne8076 Год назад
No surprise there brother this man is one of the goat point guards and one of the greatest basketball players of all time
@Waves-bf2sx
@Waves-bf2sx Год назад
I watched probably 75% of pivot interviews (basketball and football players) and to me this is the second best interview only behind Michael beasley! What I liked so much about this one was isiah opened up about growing up on the west side of Chicago,poverty, his relationship with magic johnson, funny stories of coach knight and even took us on a journey about diversity. Tough interview, loved it 👐
@demetrouslee2067
@demetrouslee2067 Год назад
The most underrated none spoken of in the best PG ever Convo ever ...man he beat Larry Bird Magic n MJ...TUFF!!! RESPECT TO ISIAH THOMAS this interview is beyond DOPE!!!
@SuaSponte75
@SuaSponte75 2 дня назад
MJ beat them too and then some more.
@tsalter11
@tsalter11 Год назад
People from Detroit understand the importance and significance that Zeke and the Pistons have to basketball and the “D”. Thx Zeke for what you did for the Detroit community. Thx to the Pivot Bruhs y’all are doing a great job!!! Great interview with my man Zeke 💪🏾
@MylesWMiller
@MylesWMiller Год назад
No doubt!!!
@mariohenley149
@mariohenley149 Год назад
He meant everything to us in Detroit...... Still love him!!
@ericharris7577
@ericharris7577 Год назад
💯
@jasonwebb6150
@jasonwebb6150 Год назад
Born and raised in the D. Zeke and Barry were like gods to me as a kid.
@T..1147
@T..1147 Год назад
What up doe we need that Coleman A Young movie as well Terrance Howard as mayor Young would be great
@toreydecuir8506
@toreydecuir8506 Год назад
Zeke not being able to play on the Dream Team might just be more about who he was as far as standing up for his people than the feud with MJ. This was a great interview with a lot of insight on Zeke and how he was raised.
@koryburdet1317
@koryburdet1317 Год назад
Facts! He was a leader and the White media hated this guy
@alecsanderhamilton9224
@alecsanderhamilton9224 Год назад
He's always been like this. He's always wore his heart on his sleeve too. He hasn't changed in his entire public career. And he's respectable. Not perfect. No one can ever be. Not even if you hide.
@phade2blaq
@phade2blaq Год назад
It was because then NBA commissioner David Stern did not like Isiah because he stood up to that stereotype that NBA players were thugs and hoodlums and Stern didn't like that but Isiah's game was so on point, Stern couldn't silence him.
@alecsanderhamilton9224
@alecsanderhamilton9224 Год назад
@@phade2blaq he did not stand up to the stereotype of thugs. The Pistons carried themselves like a church group. Only on the court they made the stars sweat and miss alot of shots which made the game uglier and less shiny. The Pistons were hard defense. Not thugging. They were the 85 Bears but Dan Marino wasn't scoring 38 points on em. The Pistons were putting the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls to sleep. And they were ruining more Celtics Lakers NBA Finals and Bulls Lakers NBA Finals.
@phade2blaq
@phade2blaq Год назад
@@alecsanderhamilton9224 I didn't say they were thugs. The NBA in the mid 1970s was becoming too Black in the eyes of some and the league began cracking down. They hated the Pistons for their rough play but they had play rough in the NBA long before the Pistons started doing it but they disliked the Pistons because of Jordan so they changed the rules to favor Jordan much the way they have changed the rules today to feature 3pt shooting.
@OrlandusThomasGCCP
@OrlandusThomasGCCP 9 месяцев назад
He's always been one of my favorite players; I'm loving him even more at this stage of his career, and having a deeper respect for him.
@Avinadav12
@Avinadav12 Год назад
Straight Facts about what the league did for MJ. Glad Isaiah brought this out.
@lamarkgray8459
@lamarkgray8459 Год назад
I am From Detroit, and as a pistons fan you can't get better than Zeke. When he tells stories about playing ball and his life. I am like a Big ole kid again. Thanks to Isiah Lord Thomas the 3rd for great memories! Thanks for the Great interview pivot!
@T..1147
@T..1147 Год назад
What up doe
@natedogg1299
@natedogg1299 Год назад
All facts! Everyone from the D feels this way about Zeke!…….he was our MJ! 💯✌🏽
@AllMoneyIn
@AllMoneyIn Год назад
This was an eye opening interview. Gained a lot of respect for Zeke. Really glad The Pivot gave him the platform to share his story!
@ceazemccallsr.6679
@ceazemccallsr.6679 Год назад
See this is the story that people of Detroit always knew the pistons were us as the people
@TherealAlmightyAG
@TherealAlmightyAG Год назад
@@ceazemccallsr.6679 I know that right. I went to his basketball camp in 91 at Orchard Lake St Mary’s. He didn’t miss a shot for a whole week. And he told me I was good. Man I cried when he said it.
@ijustyap
@ijustyap Год назад
@@TherealAlmightyAG man thats dope
@perfect2107
@perfect2107 Год назад
I love his demeanor and candor. So eloquent, refined, and just emits greatness. Jordan and him are not an day.
@Crusher103
@Crusher103 Год назад
This was one hell of a sit down. Here is the thing about Isiah, I got my stories about him from MJ, Magic, Bird etc. But then I watched NBA open court. To hear Chris Webber, Steve Smith, and even Shaq talk about him. You realize quickly there was a lot more to him. Steve Smith had a story of Isiah teaching him how to improve his handle that is just like wow. Not as an NBA player, as a high school kid, C-Webb had a similar story. Reggie Miller and Shaq still call him coach. Grant Hill talking about how Zeke called him and helped him in Detroit there is a lot that needs to be unpacked about Isiah. And the thing is I do not think he is alone, it was not just him there are others out there as well.
@authorcurtisjordan3497
@authorcurtisjordan3497 Год назад
I’m glad I heard Isiah Thomas finally tell his own story. He is right, what we’ve heard has been from the same 2-3 people over 30 years. He is a good guy!
@phade2blaq
@phade2blaq Год назад
Yep and those people were Pippen and Jordan and I remember when Isiah's sister and Jordan's brother were friends back then so why Jordan now hates Isiah is puzzling to me and Isiah said his nephew lived with Jordan so something somewhere ain't adding up. How did it go from that to Jordan hating him all of a sudden.
@Jman511x
@Jman511x Год назад
@@phade2blaq I would like to know that as well. Also Jordan seemed to legit be hurt that Thomas and the Pistons didn’t shake their hands after the Bulls finally beat them. Even though Jordan talked bad about them before the game I think he really looked up to Isiah. Maybe Jordan simply hated him because he couldn’t get past him. Jordan is an obsessive competitor after all.
@jermainejackson2870
@jermainejackson2870 Год назад
You guys are flicking fools, you guys act like you never saw the games!!!! Did he or did he not walk out of that game!!!
@KLartrandM
@KLartrandM Год назад
I can speak of this mans kindness 1st hand. I had the privilege to attend Magic Johnsons basketball camp at the MSU campus as a kid in the 80s. I had just came to the side line sitting on the floor after being subbed out. Magic an Isiah are walking around the court observing the kids, laughing and talking. Then, next thing i know, they stopped by me. They were literally standing next to me leaning up against the wall watching our techniques. Im trying my best not to look up at them. It was really unnerving. Anyway i get subbed back in. I was really struggling not because they were watching, i just wasn't that good yet. I was one of the smallest kids on the court so i was intimated. Later on during some of the drills Isiah remembered me struggling an called me to the court to show me an others how to play against larger players as a guard. Mind you this is Magics camp, but at the time they were still really close. Isiah was very active in helping out. That really changed my life. Because it gave me soo much confidence that i didn't have. I went back home that summer a beast on the court . I will always love Isiah as my all time favorite player hands down. His fearlessness, courage, charisma and confidence was like no other.
@elijahbruno2814
@elijahbruno2814 Год назад
I love reading stories like these it really shows how truly dedicated and hands on these legend were and still are. Did you ever go any further with basketball or did you find a career?
@UriahNyah6
@UriahNyah6 Год назад
I am and have always been a Michael Jordan fan BUT I know and respect the greatness of ZEKE. Happy to see you get these ROSES Brother. My favorite ball handler of all time to this day from a 70's baby. Love how you have carried yourself Bid Dawg!!!
@charlesjones1588
@charlesjones1588 День назад
Once again the Pivot and their guest Isaiah Thomas touched the soul of the sports world through storytelling. Great job men!
@92fishgut
@92fishgut Год назад
As a Michael Jordan fan and someone that wasn’t to fond of Isiah Thomas at all… I gained a lot of respect for him after watching this. Who knew? Which is the reason why he needs a documentary
@nykat
@nykat Год назад
Around 35:00 when it come to the Jordan talk Isiah out here speaking facts, 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I’ve never appreciated the way jordan and the league has tried to disrespect his legacy, I’m glad he got a platform to tell his side of the story.
@WEnglish4
@WEnglish4 Год назад
Couldn't be a bigger Chicago/Michael Jordan (then, now, forever), and enjoyed despising the 80s Pistons. That said, something about that "homegrown" soul. Typing this from my longtime West Side CHI apartment, I had respect for Isiah before watching this. Grown tremendously more afterwards. Well done, Sir.
@izeke1310
@izeke1310 Год назад
I grew up watching this man. I'm from Detroit, seeing Zeke as a kid dribbling inspired me to ball. He is my favorite player of all time. I remember the commercials with him and his mom for Edison. She would say "Oh Isiah" My principal in my elementary school said it to me all the time...
@chrisgrissom3610
@chrisgrissom3610 Год назад
Isiah is a Detroit Legend. I was a kid during the bad boy era, and all those things he's sayin is all accurate. You can tell there's a level of hurt in his heart and disrespect in his soul. He is and will always be beloved in the city of Detroit
@stefanharris659
@stefanharris659 Год назад
I agree. Not from Detroit I'm from Seattle and I love him as well.
@iamthejpshow
@iamthejpshow Год назад
Man I love how The Pivot does it's homework and research before the guest come on. If the Pivot don't win an Emmy for these interviews I'm going to be highly upset. This is not just a sports show this is an Human Being Show. Love Love Love The Pivot.
@thay6077
@thay6077 Год назад
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@lilboosie5
@lilboosie5 Год назад
Yes indeed. A safe space for all
@MrAitraining
@MrAitraining Год назад
Isiah is always awesome on shows. Miss him on TNT being involved in those open court segments. He was always good. Many are on youtube. Great tale teller.
@michellemimibrummer
@michellemimibrummer 9 месяцев назад
I was in luv with Isaiah Thomas back in the day!! 😂😊
@TraciGirl313
@TraciGirl313 Год назад
I was born and raised in Detroit! Born in ‘80. This did my heart a lot of good and brought back a lot of memories of the Bad Boys. My dad was a die hard Bad Boys fan. I wish he could’ve watched this. Great interview, guys.
@DialToneTP
@DialToneTP Год назад
I was born and raised in Chicago, and we hated the bad boys, but I never heard Isaiah Thomas story until now. Gives me a different insight of how good the Pistons was.
@johnnyrandolph7535
@johnnyrandolph7535 Год назад
I was born in 1979 and Detroit. 89 and 90 bad boys team are still my favorite sports teams of all time.
@koj6629
@koj6629 Год назад
Same here. This interview was something else for me. I grew up in Michigan and idealized idealized Isaiah so much. I thought I was him when I was a kid. Not just basketball but the way he carried himself.
@b.o.1951
@b.o.1951 Год назад
“Yea run da slant in 1977” Zeek 😂😂😂
@hotbyoungturk
@hotbyoungturk Год назад
IT needs more praise and recognition. And yes, please give this man his own movie based on his life. His story is powerful. And the fact that he recognizes how important it is to treat people with kindness.. Its a beautiful thing.
@bgirmay
@bgirmay Год назад
What an interview! I came to San Diego in 1986 and start watching basketball, then I see this short feisty guy with a smile that I became an instant fan. I watched most of his games and followed his career after retirement. It is unfortunate and unfair that he gets a bad rap. You guys did an indelible job of interviewing. I hope to see a well deserved documentary about him. BTW: he is a mentor of Jaylen Brown, one of the best player and bright minds in the NBA-where they forged a friendship when Isiah was getting his masters and Jaylen’s fresh man year at UC Berkeley.
@ec2233
@ec2233 Год назад
Every time I think ya'll can't raise the bar any higher: Channing says "hold my draws". This was an AMAZING interview, and it's made me love Zeke more than before. Props to the pivot. 👏🏿 👏🏿 👏🏿
@barak-rocky-giles2081
@barak-rocky-giles2081 Год назад
"Hold my draws" 🤣🤣🤣 That is so true.
@esantana6722
@esantana6722 Год назад
@@barak-rocky-giles2081 straight up
@eomyenom1
@eomyenom1 Год назад
It was the era of Isaiah Thomas that made the league must see tv in the 80s-90s. He was so tough, gritty and talented that played with heart. I wish we had 1 player of his ilk in the league today.
@Forthepeoplepodcast305
@Forthepeoplepodcast305 Год назад
Giannis is the closest
@eomyenom1
@eomyenom1 Год назад
Isaiah would reach out and put hands on you regardless of size. There’s nobody in the league today with his heart.
@aaronsmith697
@aaronsmith697 Год назад
My favorite player of all-time. Was the 2nd greatest PG before Steph won his recent finals. Every interview of his has been classy and graceful. And a FREAKING KILLER.
@doingthemost399
@doingthemost399 Год назад
I think zeke would have gave Curry the business too no doubt
@c.p.h.9264
@c.p.h.9264 Год назад
Steph dont want no smoke....! 🤣
@doingthemost399
@doingthemost399 Год назад
@@c.p.h.9264 zeke would have bullied him
@theflyesthippy
@theflyesthippy Год назад
Yo... Mr. Isaiah Thomas is truly dropping major gems
@tonyt3197
@tonyt3197 Год назад
Honestly this wasn’t even an interview to me. This is more like listening to your dad/uncle talk about interesting times in their younger days. They actually learn more about the person that way than just asking them structured questions and getting structured answers. Just a pure organic conversation. Big shoutout to The Pivot and the Legend Mr Isiah Thomas for the dope convo 🙏🏽
@JohnWick-gl6mw
@JohnWick-gl6mw Год назад
Gospel !
@Realwillvance
@Realwillvance Год назад
I rank this as one of the best interviews I’ve seen in my life. The emotion, facts, revelations, kept me on the edge of my seat. I hope they do a part two.
@LoyalOpposition
@LoyalOpposition Год назад
I was just gonna say that. Best interview
@csmall10
@csmall10 Год назад
Loved this interview...As a Detroit native I remember Detroit Edison commercials..I remember Isaiah sweet mother saying "Oh Isaiah"..But I had no idea she was about that thug life🤣🤣🤣...But Im glad Zeke got to give his side of the story which was very informative to me as a fan... Zeke is a class act..Bad boys for Life💪🏼..
@redrocker1055
@redrocker1055 Год назад
More truth in this conversation than most grown-ass 80's and 90's kids can ever hope to unpack.
@treyspaulding46
@treyspaulding46 Год назад
That Episode was AWARD WORTHY! The Pivot sets the Bar for what a good SUCCESSFUL Podcast should be. Good job Rc, Fred, and Channing. Isiah was and is Phenomenal! Shout out to the pivot crew and everyone who makes this thing go. Merry Christmas ⛄🎄 &Happy Holidays ALL.
@PowerHouseMarriage
@PowerHouseMarriage Год назад
I’m so glad Brandon Marshall not on this he would have talked the whole time
@basedgod1281
@basedgod1281 Год назад
@@PowerHouseMarriage 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Day-ZDuke
@Day-ZDuke Год назад
Isiah Thomas is a super nice guy, down to earth. I used to play hockey with his son growing up, back in the 90’s. Talked with him many times Still have his autograph framed to this day!!
@LoyalOpposition
@LoyalOpposition Год назад
Something the average person doesn't know that you know? Nothing bad - Isiah was my first hero. I'm from Michigan.
@butterflyygyrlsworld5106
@butterflyygyrlsworld5106 Год назад
So true…very nice man.
@seanldean4213
@seanldean4213 Год назад
Played hockey with his son???...🧐...bet you did...😂🤣😂
@SVIN54
@SVIN54 11 месяцев назад
I’m 23 years old and I can tell how that I’ve respected Isiah Thomas since i was 11. I became a fan of the heat (my local team) because of the big 3 but I was able to learn the games history and overall scheme because of Isaiah Thomas and company on NBA TV. Kids my age was watching Disney channel and you would always see me watching Gametime, open court nba hardwood classics etc. Ik he might feel like people don’t appreciate his place in the story of nba basketball but some of us do. Just a top tier episode you all killed it!
@wasntme3651
@wasntme3651 Год назад
I was fortunate enough to get to sit on the court during a Detroit game when I was in high school. Thomas was my favorite player at the time and it was surreal being a few feet from him and the team. We were sitting in front of the chairs on the literal floor.
@anthonyjackson883
@anthonyjackson883 Год назад
This interview changed my whole mindset on Isiah and Jordan
@Antlp711
@Antlp711 Год назад
Definitely one of the best Pivots. I really didn’t know about His past growing up. His mom being a activist and the fight with his brother and Bobby knight. Dope interview, honest and vulnerable.
@hgm38
@hgm38 Год назад
Hey when I heard that story his brother & Bobby knight I died laughing.
@T..1147
@T..1147 Год назад
Y'all did see the Isiah Thomas story his brother was a baller as well Leon played his brother In the movie
@TheKnuckles65
@TheKnuckles65 Год назад
Wow! The words from Isiah's own mouth. This interview has increased my respect for Isiah Thomas. Great interview sirs. Thank you for allowing him to share so much of his history with us. I am now a subscriber of your podcast. Great job Pivot!
@geraldnelson742
@geraldnelson742 Год назад
Met him at Metro airport in Detroit! He’s so gracious and appreciative of the adulation! I was star struck because he was and is my favorite player! I wore number 11 because of him!
@ronnellhillman7260
@ronnellhillman7260 Год назад
I love when Isaiah Thomas get interviewed he is the most objective player from the 80s and early 90s
@folabomiamoo
@folabomiamoo Год назад
This is hands down the best episode so far. Isiah Thomas is such an amazing storyteller!
@72dolphinsto22dolphins
@72dolphinsto22dolphins Год назад
Every basketball fan from the 80s and 90s should watch this, so powerful and insightful.
@mdpowell1
@mdpowell1 Год назад
I was born and raised in the D. Isiah was a hero growing up. I was at the first no crime day that he and Magic put together. He also visited and spoke with the students at my high school when one of my classmates had been tragically killed during a drive by shooting. His greatness extends far beyond the basketball court. I appreciate this interview very much. Thank you for doing it. I eagerly await the part 2.
@getblackah
@getblackah Год назад
This has by far become my favorite podcast. This is one where I’m actually upset this didn’t run longer. I wouldn’t mind a Pivot “Isaiah Thomas Special” THIS INTERVIEW WAS AMAZING
@dnell5246
@dnell5246 Год назад
I wish it was longer as well.. but great interview!!!
@luvthosewholuvu8097
@luvthosewholuvu8097 Год назад
I agree, bring Mr. Thomas back for a 3 hour special. I'm sure he has more indepth stories we don't know and would like to know
@averycardoso9713
@averycardoso9713 Год назад
I’ve always said isiah is criminally underrated. Imo he’s the third best pg of all time, his toughness skill and leadership were undeniable. He took down Jordan, Magic and Bird all in one era. Put some respect on his name and all while being disrespected isiah always put a smile on his face and dealt with his isssues with such class. True legend of the game !!!
@sideshowbobsaget8876
@sideshowbobsaget8876 Год назад
Magic, Curry, Oscar. Never beat Magic in the Finals
@hollandriaandersoify
@hollandriaandersoify Год назад
This was good and it was also POWERFUL. Stop letting popular folk feed their narratives to us. Anybody with discernment can tell that this was and is a good man.
@dareyllwanzer5048
@dareyllwanzer5048 Год назад
As a kid I was not a bad boys fan. I wasn't an Isaiah guy. Magic and MJ was it for me. However as I got older I started liking Isaiah. Every time I hear him talk he sounds genuine. He speaks facts. Much respect to Zeke! 🤟🏽
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp Год назад
I worked at nba tv for 3 years. when i met Isiah it was crazy because i grew up a bull fan/jordan fan. then(2015) he told me kyrie was his fav pg in the league. we had an incredible conversation and he was insanely cool whenever i talked to him. maybe have been diff as a player but as a man he's a super cool guy. i fw him.
@medrickbussie2489
@medrickbussie2489 Год назад
I love Isaiah bro. His brother Larry Thomas coached me in a church league and I soaked up so much game from him. The stories he would tell was inspirational. As a Chicago west side native Isaiah is the realest and I hope to meet him
@yonathanseleshi
@yonathanseleshi Год назад
Isiah is one of my favorite people in sports. He's one of the all time greatest.
@MattTheDreamer7199
@MattTheDreamer7199 Год назад
When Zeke mentioned how close MJ was to his family, it only further drives the point home who the real big homie is.
@Jarnarsab
@Jarnarsab Год назад
Isiah seems so genuine and he has this realism about him that I really appreciate.
@user-ff3wt5jt3w
@user-ff3wt5jt3w Год назад
he seems geniune, but if you check some of the things he said were wrong.
@KingTommy21
@KingTommy21 Год назад
@@user-ff3wt5jt3w what things? please elaborate
@cwvos
@cwvos Год назад
@@user-ff3wt5jt3w The other Bro. Asked you to elab on what he was wrong about, but also for me, tell me what he was wrong about and *More Importantly* where did you get your credible info from to prove he was wrong 🤔❓️❓️❓️
@ckaiborbor
@ckaiborbor Год назад
We are in a golden era for Black men to be able to come together and share their stories to uplift us all. Pray all these brothers in these spaces keep it positive & reach back and uplift.
@javonnesbit411
@javonnesbit411 Год назад
I'm a lifelong Lakers fan and Zeke was my first A.I. I love that dude, both how he played and who he is as a man! This was a great watch!
@makesmartTROYces
@makesmartTROYces Год назад
It's amazing how he can keep a smile on his face for this whole interview, it's amazing and I love it. Very positive🔥🔥🙏🏿👏🏿
@jonhardin.
@jonhardin. Год назад
Zeke is that guy. There's no way you can't look at that man and start smiling cuz you know he gonna make you laugh! Good dude, legend!
@mariesettles4734
@mariesettles4734 Год назад
You guys hit a home run with this interview. What's up Zeke? We love and miss you in Detroit.Thank you for our championships Bad Boys 4 Life.👏🏾👏🏾🏀🏀🏆🏆
@SPtheGREAT
@SPtheGREAT Год назад
"I've been BLESSED with the ability to MAKE SOMEBODY'S DAY by BEING NICE TO THEM...but you can ALSO RUIN SOMEBODY'S DAY by BEING MEAN TO THEM..." REAL RAP!!!
@andresimons6386
@andresimons6386 Год назад
This seriously changed my prospective about Zeke. Still not a Bad Boy fan but I have so much more respect for him as a man. Thanks for the interview with him!! Keep up the great work 👍🏾 👏🏾 💪🏾
@mariohenley149
@mariohenley149 Год назад
Isiah's heart, passion and will to win made him my favorite player of all time. I could listen to him tell stories all day.
@Carolinakid1984
@Carolinakid1984 Год назад
Love this interview, Zeke was a monster and coming from a true MJ fan I respect Zeke's perspective and truly those two need to do a face to face and talk it out
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 Год назад
I they don’t not after the lies this man told
@jonathansimmons6452
@jonathansimmons6452 Год назад
I honestly feel like they do need to have sit down national televised interview. With no holds barred. Just put everything in the air and talk things out. They’ll be huge seeing 2 brothers coming together and squashing a age long beef. They need to do while they are still here.
@JJMk3
@JJMk3 Год назад
Naahh some people you can forgive them but you have to let them go their way. Zeke looks like he is an @SSH0L3 in real life but wtf its ME🙈😂🤷‍♂️
@drestathagangsta8880
@drestathagangsta8880 Год назад
@@JJMk3 I've met Jordan numerous times and no one is a bigger asshole than MJ. I know the rest of the world still idolizes him but I'm good.
@ricojustrealtampaflorida1986
@@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 you're to emotionally invested with strangers little brother! What lie did he tell on you, or anyone you personally know?
@markflood9755
@markflood9755 Год назад
Wow Isaiah lord thomas my idol.didnt miss a game on tv from 1981 1994 i feel i know him well.great man
@spaceman4653
@spaceman4653 Год назад
The vid starting with the LEGENDARY Zeke demanding pushups for being late is epic lol.
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