Isiah Thomas responds to Michael Jordan’s comments on ‘The Last Dance’ | Get Up 

right Jordan was older than them on they 3rd repeat

Dude, they had over HALF of their team that was born in the '50's on the 1991 team. They were old AF. John Salley was the youngest guy that got any PT that year, and he was 26. Yes, I was there. Yes, I had season tickets.

@@jesterlead Average Age of the starting line up for the Pistons was 30 years old in 1990, Average for the Bulls in 1998 was 33. That was their 6th and final time winning. THEY GOT BEAT.

Preach

@@artvandalay13 Dude, watch NBA in the '80's and 90's? You know what happened after the Bad Boys? It went from full contact NFL ball to flag football. MJ could carry a team at 50, but by '97 it was a no-touch league......

He's textbook "Duper's delight"

Isiah is a great person

It’s a forced smile that hides humiliation

Reminds me of that character from breaking bad... You know the one, the Chicken man LMAO! That dude was a cold blooded killer and was soft spoken and always smiling in that show... Heck they could be brothers in both demeanor and look haha

Well that's just a dumb thing to say. You must realise that, while Isiah may not be one of them, there are genuinely nice people that smile whenever they talk. Not everyone is as jaded by life as your comment suggests.

Who cares? Jordan is a crybaby.

@@timjohnson8339 Then what is LeBron🤣

@@timjohnson8339 like you?

Jordan is still hurt. WHY

@@timjohnson8339 What does he have to cry about? He's a 6 time champion/ finals mvp, 10 time scoring champion, 5 time league MVP, DPOY...a billionaire majority black team owner. You Jordan haters are hilarious with these fictious flights of fancy. 😆

@Justin Credible Jordan came back, because he missed the game. And no team that's garbage would go to back to back Finals.

Isaiah Wrist got injured after winning a chip and he said he was never the same again.

Yeah isiah was literally 29 years old. Weird excuse considering he could use a legit excuse.

i dont care what nobody say Isiah WAS BAD HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THAT DREAM TEAM

It's not the "age". It was going through that playoff grind 5 straight years. It physically and mentally wore them down. No different than how Jordan said he and the Bulls felt after 93.

in that 90 season huh

Imagine anyone not lifting weights in today’s NBA. Crazy.

No

@@joonpak I mean no one on the warriors team besides green look like they could bench over 135 lmao they were a bunch of twigs that could just shoot from the parking lot. And Kevin Durant has to carry rocks in his pocket so that the wind doesn't take him away, so yeah I can more than imagine it, I can see it every year lmao

Ur point is

Cole World you can’t tell them what to do they did what they do get over it 🤷🏽‍♂️ Mike still crying about that

MJ held it all in until his hall of fame induction ceremony. Then he took a Massive Funky Dump💩 on the game!

Exactly

That’s because Mj is a class act, Detroit was full of bullies and insecure men. Mj the goat.

True...but MJ was just as wrong for manipulating the situation where Isiah did not make the dream team. That was a b#$% move by MJ.

Just like the 3rd Celtics dynasty we're watching be born.

@@benjamindouglas862 4th, do not disrespect Rajon, the Truth, Ray & the Big Ticket

@@leonardorosti438 a title a dynasty is not, maybe if they don't lose game 7 in 2010

@@benjamindouglas862 yep you right, but how sad for those players, I like to put them in Celtic HOF anyway.

@@leonardorosti438 all but Rondo will be in the actual H of F, and I still remember that game 7 loss, still painful after 12 years

E'L Toro Guapo W

LeBron James didn't Shake Orlando team when they beat them

@E'L Toro Guapo still doesnt make him better for being a sore sport and a chump

@@yungmc8078 go have a cry. Sports is abusive.

for sure...laimbeer was the biggest whiner in the history of the game...not to mention, by far, the dirtiest player...

2nd for me next to LA/Boston

Is cavs/warriors in it?

tom bru No

My lifetime: 1. CHI vs DET 2. LAL vs BOS 3. CHI vs NYK 4. LAL vs SAS 5. IND vs NYK Bonus: DET vs BOS

@@user-iu3kv2bo4h no

Well at least there's one of you.

i have a question, i get it was disrespectful...but at the end of the day its a handshake. you've become world champions....back to back 6 times! how can you still hold a grudge on a handshake after 30 years? 🤔

Actually, Bird stormed off, Ainge stormed off. The only one who did any congratulating was McHale to Isiah. However, Laimbeer made a point to run over to McHale and give him a fist bump. Not much different from the Pistons walking off from the Bulls.

@J Day "stupidity at it's finest" oh the irony.

@@selvaganapathy2391 because Jordan takes it personally, holds grudges and doesn't forgive. That's why

@@selvaganapathy2391 That's the mentality that helped him win those 6 chips

Javier Cruz ofcourse, they had an intesity to win at all cost, the rivalry’s where great and the competitive nature of the nba was extremely high.

I stopped watching after Michael retired

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Javier Cruz honestly when the nba dies off it’ll be awesome to start watching all the old schools leading up to the Lebron era

bro we might never watch basketball again period at this point smfh what a waste of an amazing season

Davi Clar he would

Imagine Isiah, Bird, Magic, and Jordan all on that Dream Team.....instead of John bleeping Stockton. Would have been epic. Isiah deserved to be on that team. He beat all 3 of those guys. He ended the Celtics and Lakers dynasties and held off the Bulls for 3 straight years.

Robert Parish gave Lambeer a one two punch and knocked him out. Parish missed only the next game

@@daviclar867 he was laughing when he was saying it. A bad joke!

Zeke lol?

Fake af.

Fakest saltiest mofo ever

As a sports fan who just finished watching the Last Dance I couldn't help but be envious of Chicagoans who got to live and experience this. You've just perfectly described exactly how I thought it must've been😍n

​@@aphiwembande8661 Thank you, I tried to describe it as best I could from memory, envy from other organizations is understandable though, I don't mean to rub it in. I used to think like how this type of run just does never happen, so we're lucky to experience once it in a lifetime, or many actually. Most of that was because of having MJ, without him forget it. The recent drama with Scottie and MJ has me a little bit disgusted with Pippen, Jordans detractors are ridiculous, he was near perfect as he continued to learn the game. He was more of a hero than a player, what I remember he did it all when it counted. His earlier career is just an afterthought, he just kept getting better... Nobody else I can think of like that in any sport, except maybe Ali. Some people say Wayne Gretsky was ridiculous, I didn't really follow him. I understand how difficult it is to dominate any professional sport, it's very difficult.

This is a dead on description of how it was. The Bulls were the Rock stars of the world that season and everybody knew who they were. It was like The Beatles at their peak!

Whoever he would have still been the same player he is today it's the way the brackets were set up that they met Detroit and the playoffs

Jaime Garcia I totally agree with your statement; which is the answer to what Isiah said about if Lebron and KD played the game during MJ’s time... Jordan would have been that much more of a beast rising to the occasion like he did when faced against the Pistons.

Well, but you have to go through it in the first place. ;)

Yes he would have, it just would have been something else, they didn't create Jordan thinkin, he been dominating before he played them he won rookie of the year, remember he was destroying every team, he just wasn't winning, he been who he was tho

They just so happened to be his toughest challenge and couldn't win, but his skills technique and how he played been the same

jervaz Touchdown. Good one . Comment of the year . Very clever

Like it was as easy as 1. 2. 3

Jermaine Jackson’s twin brother 😂😂😂

jervaz Lol

LmfaoI! No it's not just you! To add to that, he look much lighter also!

Exactly they were a fun team to watch

Rs

Pistons won 2 titles and that was it. They ain't in no conversation. Other then being dirty. And like Jordan said every time bulls lost they shook there hands and congratulated them. They never just walked off the court.

@@silentkool21 winning back to back championships is no easy feat to disregard in any sport.. Only the few and elite can accomplish that.

@@silentkool21 lmao, knocked off the Celtics and Lakers, went to three straight finals with one superstar, the Bulls faced what great team?

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Lol..which brother, Jermaine or Tito?

Are you implying that Joe Jackson..... was creeping ?! : )

Hehe

@@oneflowerninjamagic1912 ???? They were just a town over

And unsportsmanlike

Nah... they were the only ones who beat people up like that. The lakers and celtics or bulls or anyone else didnt need to rough up the other team to win.

@Mark Warner they call that being a sore loser. All other teams took Ls with reapect. Bunch of babies

It was karma

Celtics did the same to the Pistons in the playoffs- yet no one talks about that. That’s how it was done then.

And I took it personally.

crossed who? he made Jordan who he is today.. they made jordan into a man

Isiah waaaay tougher than Jordan. Isiah grew up poor and went to Indiana with Bobby Knight.. Jordan came from middle class and got kid gloves at NC with Dean Smith. That's why Jordan still hurt about it and Isiah been moved on...

@@MrBrysta by going along with Laimbeer by not shaking hands with the Bulls, he was basically cancelled in the league and left off the dream team. Everybody outside of Detroit hated him. He pissed off the wrong people and paid for it.

@@michaelterrell2108 All that you said speaks volumes about who the REAL SHADY person is. Shows just how vindictive and shrewd MJ is, and any kiss a$$ who panders to his elitist mindset. Isaiah has moved on. Folks still kissing his boots (or his HEIR Jordans) while he continues to exploit the league and poor black children, along with the prison industrial complex. You all are rooting for the wrong person.... his pathology is whack! The argument is old as dirt, nearly three decades removed, and he's still whining about it??? Immature and entitled.

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Was thinking the same thing its erking my nerves

You can buy him a big tv and fill the space

Dude 😂😂😂

His highlights don't age either

🤷🏾 "Black DON'T crack" 💪🏾

Met him 4 years ago at Vegas Summer League, he looks 87 in person lol. Great guy though

The legend I think the toll of being a nba guard is more work than a math teacher does 😂 some people have missing cartilage from playing ball. The injuries the taxing on the body the time working and practicing lol please b e quiet with your 12 year old logic

Vampire

Those things are relevant in sports. Any man should know it.

@@verdi2310 Don't be a child.

hahahahahaha. best comment

They didn't sweep the Finals in 1990.

@@jbrumundsmith point still stands

Nope, just got injured. Mostly Isaiah

@@georgelaflare and yet they still made the conference finals.... and got swept. Weren’t too old or injured to get there

Ask the rockets in 96

We're all getting older at the same rate though... Daily

@@dariusus9870 did you know the moon is a moon thats a fun fact right there!!

Yes, I remember sitting at a buddies house with some girls and the only thing we cared about were the Pistons and Budweiser... God Bless the Pistons and Bulls rivalry

@@pastjdzz There's being cleaver and there's being stupid.... And your last comment was pretty stupid 😂😂

Cringe

Exactly what i feel. Exactly.

Then, you don't know Isaiah. That man has worn that wide smile his whole life. That's just him; and he laughs a lot when he talks as well. People need to move on from old matters and focus on the weightier issues in life, and he has done that. But Jordan???? I mean, my GOD man, this happened nearly 30 years ago!!! For goodness sake, get over it Jordan!!

@@takodawhitefeather - Jordan IS over it. It's THOMAS who keeps brining it up.

@@jumperguy9867 How is he over it... by writing that narrative into his biopic for the rest of these lame-o's to pine away about it with him?? Uh, yeah okay. Y'all are so brainwashed. The ONLY reason Zeke has said ANYTHING about it is because of Jordan's whiney behavior and commentators kicking up dust about it. Pippen and Grant are STILL sour about it too. They are soooo lame!! The moment has passed...still no handshake or pat on the back. He got his rings, now move on with it. 😂😂😂😂😂

Can say the same for MJ. He got away with it, because he is MJ.

The selective narrative by MJ is to ignore the fact that the Bulls were the biggest crybabies in the NBA. They were embarrassing.

@@tomhearns143 The entire league was in transition from playing finesse to physical. Detroit adopted the Lakers/Celtics playoff intensity and incorporated it into every regular season game. Many teams, including the Bulls, were not prepared for that style of play, but obviously they adapted as the younger players got a few years under their belt. When the Pistons got swept and walked off the court, now that was both embarrassing and poor sportsmanship.

He has always kept his teeth white. His mama taught him that😂 His lips are naturally dark as well. That always make teeth look whiter.

ahahahahahahaha, you make me burst into laughter successfully~

lol

LOL!

That is really funny, Dee!

They got smart

@@percywilliams394 exactly!

@@arlopear7136 lol

They got soft. This whole younger generations. All soft.

Jim Mattis “soft” but more skilled, sorry players nowadays actually want to play ball and not injure each other on purpose

Who retired that season? Or even in the following 2? Thomas? Rodman? Aguirre? Laimbeer? Dumas?

The Pistons made the Bulls better... playing the 89 90 Pistons you had to be mentally and physically tough. The Pistons caused that dog to come out of the bulls....

@@mr.ifeoluwa4591 You're right.

So the Pistons were old at the (average) age of 30 in '91 What about Jordan winning the Championship, Scoring title and Finals MVP at the age of 35 in '98

No guys, you're missing one crucial point. Where were Bulls weaker in 1990? In the paint. So yes, Bulls "got better", but because of Phil Jackson, as always. He got rid of players who weren't physical enough, such as Ed Nealy (could shoot threes, but was unusable as rebounder), Jeff Sanders, Jack Haley, and replaced them with Cliff Levingston and Scott Williams. As a result Bulls ended up with no less than six centers/PFs: Cartwright, Grant, King, Perdue, Levingston and Williams. That's 36 possible personal fouls per game, guys! So they could outfight Pistons in 1991, something they couldn't do the year before. Not everything was with MJ - in fact it was much more with Phil. The reason why Bulls did worse in 1995 than in 1994 despite MJ returning was the absence of Horace Grant who left to Orlando. They were hollow in the paint for entire 1994-95 season. And then the league's best rebounder came aboard...

Bulls fans commenting

Gilbert Cantu lol made my day

Lol and they bash them for being ahead of their time. The hate!!

Lol nice observation!

LOL!! BEST COMMENT EVER!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

What about lambier and Isaiah hugging that old white guy?

they got old.

@@TyFhoonBoom That's a lie. Were Isiah and Rodman being 29 considered old? And Dumars was 27 and Aguire was 30. Flagrant fouls or not they were going to lose; 89 Bulls pushed them to 6 games, Pistons swept everyone including the Lakers . 90 Bulls were the only team to once again push Pistons, this time to 7 games, only Knicks and Blazers got one 1 and that was it.

They got old

Sore losers!😁

@@TyFhoonBoom no they got beat, lol

MJ is s billionaire no need to host a show just keep buying his shoes

Jordan doesn’t know to be moderator

Perhaps they can include Bill Laimbeer too... See how Michael reacts to what he's gonna say.

Thomas would probably be packing some heat.

Yeah I would love to tune in to that myself.

He also retired when he was only like 32 lol

I mean it is true the pistons as a team were getting old, but definitely no the reason they got swept lol

Detroit beat Chicago because the Bulls lacked experience and Detroit were bullies. Chicago dominated the Pistons as soon as they knew they were the better team.

Old NBAs players their age were already old enough and especially beat down, even Wilt and many other greats and kind of enduring and strong players played about 13 and something seasons. They were definitely old, Zeke would go soon to retire together with another legend that was wiped out by the 90s in Magic, or Larry too.

@@dusk6159 i.t, dumars, Rodman were not...'81-85-86...pfff

perfect

Agreed, what a salty hater.🤣

Connor, there is nothing to "LMAO" about when you're stating facts.

Yup, he's a true "Dickhead"!

say what you wanna say but Isiah THOMAS WAS BAD...AND HE IS A LEGEND REMEMBER THAT..

No game 7

nashmalkin1371 Kenna ain’t EVER gonna b the best player on a championship team so y pay him like he is

Who the bulls play in the finals....spurs, GSW, oh he played bums

@@jday9529 😂😂sun's, lakeers, jazz magic were bums. OK then

@@jday9529 go watch real basketball. Not the whiny ball right now

FACTS 💯🏁

They shouldn't have walked off like the Celtics did to them after the Pistons eliminated them.

I don't mind it... Real emotion > Phony little league gamesmanship

If Jordan used *THAT* to badmouth Thomas and get USA basketball to exclude him from the 1992 Dream Team, then shame on them.

@@jamesanthony5681 well it's called exercising power. Tht was and is the power of Michael Jordan

And rodman was on a self destruction he was suspended all time couldnt play the next yr he was gone

simply outplayed by bulls even in their prime

Well the Lakers lost in 89 and the media said they were getting old 💯 I think you forgot that due to the game in general being so physical back then, you had a few guys playing until their mid 30s but the majority were out. I feel you on what you're saying but now with the game being the way it is, it's waaay less overall injuries now opposed to then which doesn't tax the body as hard.

@@nv3e125 Rodman played 82 games in 90/91 averaging 33 min. In 91/92 he also played 82 games averaging 40 mins. how was he gone?

If you actully look at their ages they were in their prime years and got shut down!

yep thats in episode 5 but they don't make it sound that way.... you'll see next week i guess

@@risingupvisualizing3608 what... where do you see it?

@@risingupvisualizing3608 I call BS! They haven't aired episode 5 yet

Dont forget Isaiah being mad at rookie Jordan for getting all the attention and making the all star game telling the team not to pass the ball to Jordan

@@juanrios2705 episodes 3 to 8 leaked last week

😂😂😂

He was a great player that made the most out of his ability gotta respect him though

laimbeer himself is in the closet with his female tendenecies

Jr. Larry Bird still hates bill Laimbeer to this day. He says he felt Bill tried to hurt him on the court physically and there’s no room for that in basketball

@@davidconejr4206 I'm from the UK what tendancies.

Confi Dom That was deep

Po MJ... still harboring bad feelings.

I think not only MJ but all Bulls team from this years, when they got beat up by Pistons.

Exactly. That should just be another prize for winning it all. I don't want my ears falsely tickled for winning, and I don't want to tell someone else how good of a job they did at showing I wasn't good enough. Nothing need be said because both sides already know. Respect doesn't need to be tangible. People do and expect things simply because that's what people say is normal.

Triandis Crim or is he just telling the truth?

Bury him

Dennis Rodman would probably grab James Harden's beard and pull him down

You guys always bring up the worst examples of players that you think would struggle in the past. James Harden is one of the stronger players in the NBA, and he finishes through contact regularly. He flops and complains because it works and gives him easy points. I don't like his playing style really, but Harden wouldn't get bullied.

Harden is one of the best scorers of all time he would handle anyone back in the day

Harden would put all of them on skates.

Pipen wasn't. Rodman had to apologize to get on the team. He was upset about getting beat up by the pistons. That wasn't what Jordan was mad about. Jordan is more concerned with Isiah as the leader of team and best player not bowing down and kissing his ring. Rodman was a far inferior basketball player, so Jordan wasn't concerned with him. It's always personal and petty for Jordan.

@@reviewsandrevisits2745 Some of you folks act like whiney little children on the playground, instigating and fueling the flames. I think MJ and the rest of those nearly 60-year old has been(s) from the Bulls suffer with arrested development. I cannot imagine after all this time, they are STILLLLL pining away over a darn handshake. They've won 6 titles since then, been married, divorced, remarried, grandfathered, etc., and THIS is the most painful/traumatic memory of their lives????? Petty, childish, and entitled. Grown a$$ men crying over spilled milk... the rest of society is wallowing in it and lapping it up. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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@@B-mcwrl3as jytype per ramazan

LMFAO 😂!!!!

Foul😂😂😂😂

This is gold!

😂 Facts 😂

Man they really look soffffftttrt today sheesh

Major 🖨

Because safety is important now. And Basketball isn’t the only sport being more cautions other sports as well. It’s just a new era thing, safety first

Simba Charuma the way the game is played and how things are so easy to get a call from. All the travels the league let happens has nothing to do with safety. The game is watered down for excitement not for passion

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And Jemeel Hill does too

That's right, REPRESENT

He never played for the Pistons. It looks funny with him wearing a Pistons jersey.

StrangeClouds yeah you’re gonna be pissed

Like the Mavericks did Kobe and the lakers in 2011

Come up Exactly. People choose to forget that even happened

@@comeup4882 that Mavericks team was different that year tho. Swept the Lakers, gentleman's sweep on OKC, and dismantled Lebron within the course of a month.

Imagine being lebron James?

The Piston's are the least respected team that won a championship because they were dirty. If you have to play dirty to win then you suck. I have watched every championship since 1965. If you did the stuff they did it a pickup game there would be a fight.

@@rotweilerscholar1181 Ummmmm!!!! 😂😅🤣😂😎🤔 You might be right!

Exactly and he's doing politics here.

Rotweiler Scholar god dayum!

@@rotweilerscholar1181 nicknamed: babyface assassin

right, he never really answered the question here, as most politicians always do.

He was all class when they loss to the Pistons year after year. He sought them out to shake their hands. He said in post game interviews that the Bulls wanted to get to the Pistons level, gave them all the respect in the world. The Pistons walked off and blamed the Celtics. Those guys were definitely a-holes.

Did all those that beat him, bash him, his team, and his city in the media before they beat him? I mean I wouldn't show someone respect when they failed to do the same with me leading up to the game. So yeah, I definitely get why the pistons did it and am glad that they did. Cause Jordan just wants people to play the game the way HE thinks it should be played, but in his world he can do no wrong, while others are nothing but wrong.

@Jason McSweeney When did I or anyone say that? I think Jordan is the greatest ever. But the fact that you just ignored the topic at hand and went straight to the Chips shows that you're just like a loser from chicago. I said that he didn't show the pistons any respect before the non handshake game so of course they weren't going to shake his hand. Go look at what he said about the pistons before the game and then come back to argue about the TOPIC AT HAND and not the overall achievements of MJ.

Pat4Clippers bulls walked off when they were beat as well folks forget that

Exactly. Jordan used defeat to make himself better, NOT bitter.

truth

Like when Artest and them beat up fans. Ppl need to YT that :-)

I cant even tell you the last time I watched an NBA game and not because of COVID. It used to be "must see TV" like you said. Now it's, I'll catch it if I catch it. And the games are forgettable compared to the 90's.

@@kokolatte825 I do feel like the Bulls - Celtics 2009 PO series was on that level though, but mostly i agree and that's been 11 years xD

@@Svupper how about Cleveland vs gs pre kd

Facts

Also, they got rid of Mahorn. Big mistake

@@kwrbt2979 they didnt get rid of him he got drafted in the expansion

@@kamikazejetz9676 They didn't have to expose him to that draft! They chose to.

Look at their deep playoffs run from 87 - 91. That’s taxing.

Isaiah Swept Jordan Though ☠️

Daveyboy if that's the case more of the greats should have a grudge against Russell. He won more than MJ

@@Alan-ws1wd yeah but he didn't prevent as many greats from getting rings like Jordan did considering he only played against 7 teams back in the 60s

Cant play both sides of the fence. Sure Zeke was from Chicago but Chicago wasnt going to cheer him on while playing for Detroit over Jordan. Never.

@@r.ramirez6745 you are right but Zeke is still Chicago blood. Im from Chicago and Bulls are my second favorite team but I think Isiah deserves more respect. He is a Chicago native and represents the city. I still think Isiah is closer to Chicago than Jordan is, even if Bulls fans dont agree

Best part of the episode 😂😂

Horace was rightfully upset. They kept knocking his goggles off.

fade2black1982 right 😂😂😂🤣🤣

Because everyone hated the pistons. It's funny that everyone says Michael didn't want Isaiah on the team but i doubt there was more than two players who actually wanted him there, let alone didn't hate him. And honestly it was well deserved. These guy weren't just dirty, they we're legimately trying to injure players like zaza pechulia. Those types of players deserve all the hate they can get.

​@@heydudedolfan13 are you implying it's because of racism? lol

Fang probably because this is about the bulls and their "last dance".

Because there wasn’t a documentary about them recently.

Main reason for that is because the pistons were obvious dirty players..nobody in the league respected that...i wouldnt shake no one hand either after after getting taken out the air on a layup many times lol

Yea this old head saw it but also believe the refs crossed the line by not calling a lot of stuff. Unfortunately the pendulum has swung and like you said, they call everything...and that technical foul rule...ask Draymond Green how he feels about that. All of the superstars would be ejected every night!

It's just a shooting battle now, with little to no defense. Boring!

Yeah in 70s and 80s it was no blood no foul. Earl Monroe said they called the Chicago stadium Blood Alley 😮

I knew that the game was changing and getting soft when Rasheed Wallace got a technical for the way he looked at the ref!!🦓👀🤔🚬

wolves2314 Hey wolf, no don’t be. I would trade places with you and your youth Any day!!

Yep! Even after the cheap shots dirty plays etc. that's not basketball I don't blame Boston for not shaking they hands Bulls brought that karma to them and they were salty!

@@Jdp_1597 Celtics were dirty team too

all the while talking trash and saying Detroit was undeserving and bad for basketball, etc.... disrespect us a day before and then want us to respect you? laughable.

The bulls were t champions, they didn’t deserve the respect, that’s why the Celtics didn’t shake the 88 pistons hands, coz they weren’t champions yet

@@jakerobin1708 wait ... but they shake hands every other year ... I think that is where the problem comes right there ... They aint never had to shake hands all those years but they did until Bulls won lol ...

@Layth Adrian good points but throughout nba history there have been champions that went downhill far and fast the following year or two. The 83 sixers and the recent GS warriors come to mind. Sometimes its age or injury or maybe both.

Guy tells himself lies long enough ends up believing them

@@allaboutcash439 Me M co

He give the credit to the Bulls. The problem is, people are not use to people like Laimbeer who dont give a damm to others cry baby. Like he in others interview said its Basktball not live and dead business.

Not true, late 20s and early 30s was considered old in the NBA in the 80's. The games were much more physically demanding and fouls were much harder. Heck3 years earlier, when the Celtics lost to the Pistons, Larry Bird was only 31 or 32. The next year when the Lakers lost Magic was only 31. Playing deep into May and June year after year with how rough the game was, the players got older much quicker. If you don't like the word "old", then use "run down" because that's what it was.

Omy Sadat facts bro Isaiah was drafted in 81 Jordan in 83 lol they be making excuses fr

Isiah was 29, Rodman turned 29. I think Dumars was 27.

@@inlovewithi Isiah was coming off wrist surgery and was never the same

Isiah was coming off wrist surgery, and was never the same. He barely played half of that year. I'm not saying that they would have won, BUT losing your leader for half the season and having him come back hurt, made a difference.

@@twhite3850 boo boo a wrist injuries how dies that stop you from being the same maybe if you tore your acl I would have more sympathy stop making dumb excuses

Yes totally. More like Bulls surpassed them emphatically. The Bulls peak is far greater than the Pistons. Not even close.

Yeah, they were mentally drained & physically fatigued. This is the only team to beat SHOWTIME LA, Birds Celtics & holding down a young ferocious Michael Jordan. "The Pistons ended one era while stopping the Jordan in it's tracks." & that's not an easy thing to accomplish. NTM Barkley's 76'ers, Dominique & the ATL Hawks, Pat Ewing & the NY KNICKS, Bernard King & the Washington Bullets, Mark Price & Brad Daigherty of the Cleveland Cavaliers. By 1991, after 2 peating (should've been a 3 peat) as champions the Pistons were wore out. It was time for them to fade into the blackness & it was finally time for MJ to shine.

@@DreMurf313 Jordan played more games than Isiah, And Jordan had to carry his terrible team, That's an excuse!

@@courtneywhite6036 not a fan of either, but let's be honest.. Mj complaining to the NBA about what the pistons was doing plays a significant part in why they got beat, most of it had to do with jordan getting better along with his team lol And before you say it, I'm not a lebron fan either because I know someone is gonna bring it up

@@FreshPrincex4 They were bad for the game the Pistons we're dirty with Bill Laimbeer Rick Mahorn and Dennis Rodman at that time

It wasn’t even a matter of fortune.

@@dariusus9870 I reckon you should correct everything then, shouldn't you?

Haters go hate

I'm from the Deeeeep South and I loved the Pistons.

Isiah was an inspiration to me & influential. Zeke was my favorite because he was a guard...the smaller athlete who gave teams the business on offense!!! 1987, The Pistons came to The Capital Center to beat The Bullets, I was rooting 4 Zeke. He wasn't a champion at that point, on the verge. I'm a washingtonian but Zeke was my favorite player so the Pistons team got a pass When I had to witness the brutality of the Bad boys...I withdrew from liking or rooting 4 Zeke & The team. The only team I had ever claimed was & still is The Chicago Bulls...The Mega Bulls...THE UNBEATABULLS!!! I BECAME a lover of the game, learned what team effort meant & a common goal. I knew about sportsmanship but didn't know the L the Pistons took in the ecf (east con final) affected them or if it was something else, ego, inability to except defeat with humility & self-respect... In the end, Zeke was an antagonist of MJ in the all-star game and it solidified his absence with the DREAM TEAM IT AIN'T NO JOKE, IT AIN'T NO JOKE, MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE TRUE BASKETBALL GOAT 🐐

I hated their behavior after the EC finals loss

Tobat's Channel Boston didn’t shake Detroit’s hands and the 76ers and the Celtics literally came to blows.

@@mrcrc10 did he say anything about Boston or the 76ers? The bulls shook there hands.

@@edentaylor211 exactly

@@edentaylor211 The Bulls shook their hands but repeatedly and publicly led the talk of the Pistons being "bad for the game" and called them "thugs" like they were doing something other than playing basketball. Jordan also campaigned heavily for defensive rule changes. So the so-called "respect" you're talking about wasn't there on the Bulls' end either.

@@edentaylor211 exactly the point is if the Boston never shake their hands after losing to them they have no right to do that to Jordan and the Bulls team that show sportmanship despite all the dirty tatics and heartbreaking lost to them they still manage to show respect and sportmanship.

Zeek is a legend but his actions screwed up his dream team position because he crossed the wrong dude.

Like MJ said they some Biioiotches

No one ever talks about this but it’s an incredible accomplishment.

Jordan did not enter his prime till after detroit

@@Maxjuliann um he did. 87-93, 96-98