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Israelis: Are you indigenous? 

Corey Gil-Shuster
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@sharkbit123
@sharkbit123 Год назад
It seems like most of them didn't really understand the question because of the language barrier
@user-ry2qs7xf9k
@user-ry2qs7xf9k Год назад
they did
@tanyag5646
@tanyag5646 Год назад
@@user-ry2qs7xf9k clearly not
@mandydone3061
@mandydone3061 Год назад
🤣😂 didnt understand or ...
@user-rt2uq2ru5t
@user-rt2uq2ru5t Год назад
@@user-ry2qs7xf9k most of them didn’t understood the questions
@user-ry2qs7xf9k
@user-ry2qs7xf9k Год назад
@@user-rt2uq2ru5t I think most of them did
@matthewc.8284
@matthewc.8284 Год назад
Indigenous is ילידי not מקומי (local). Get a Hebrew translator. You asked the first lady, whose English is obviously poor, what makes her 'local'. Of course she's going to answer it's being born and raised in Israel and feeling a commitment to the country. Had you asked her what makes her indigenous she probably would have answered it's being ethnically and culturally Jewish.
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
הוא חייב ללכת לקורס בעברית או לפחות להכין בבית את השאלות גם בעברית לפני שהוא יוצא לראיין...וחצי מהמרואיינים שלו בקושי יודעים אנגלית, זה נראה כמו שיח חרשים, למה במצב כזה הוא לא עובר לעברית
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
Evidently he needs to hire a professional translator.
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 Год назад
I am a Canadian who's lived in Israel so this question wouldn't register with the current identity politics of North America in Israel. The use of the word indiegenous in that way is fairly new. Not too long ago it was aboriginal.
@yoavhi94
@yoavhi94 Год назад
@@ori1676 מסכים. הפרויקט הזה מאוד חשוב ומעניין אבל לא מעט מהסרטונים יוצאים מתסכלים(ברמות שונות) בגלל פערי ההבנה וההנגשה של השאלות. לפעמים גם בחירת המראוינים תמוהה. נכון שזה חשוב לשמוע מגוון דעות ולא חובה שכולם ידעו אנגלית ברמה גבוהה, אבל כשמישהי מעידה על עצמה שהיא לא מבינה אנגלית הכי טוב וכל השיח סביבה מתנהל באנגלית אז ברור שהתשובה שלה לא תהיה מדויקת לשאלה.
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
Its a good idea. Corey is really trying but even without understanding hebrew i can hear he is struggeling.
@marcohuana7824
@marcohuana7824 Год назад
הרבה מהישראלים לא מבינים את השאלה הזאת נכון. אם הבחור האינדיאני הזה יחיה במשך 150 או 2000 שנה באנגליה עם כל השבט שלו, אז הוא יחשב אנגלוסקסי? ואם אחרי כל השנים האלה הוא יעבור עם השבט שלו בחזרה לאדמות אמריקאיות, אז הוא עדיין יחשב יליד אינדיאני? ואם האינדיאנים היו כובשים את אנגליה, אז כל אינדיאני שהיה נולד באנגליה היה נחשב יליד אינדיאני? לפני קום המדינה רוב היהודים חיו ומסביב לארץ ישראל ובתוך ישראל (יהודים מזרחים) הם ילידים אמיתיים של ארץ ישראל, והערבים הם ילדים של "חצי האי ערב",
@hampadanfana6140
@hampadanfana6140 Год назад
הם לא אנשים ילידים אבל צאצאיהם של יהודים בתשובה ממדינות ילידים שונות הם פלסטינים שהגנטיקה שלהם קשורה ליעקב, ליצחק ואברהם!
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
האמת בושה שהישראלי הממוצע לא מבין מה הקשר ההיסטורי שלו בכלל לאדמתו, לא חשבתי שיש רמה כזאת של בורות בעם (מעבר להקשר דתי ההקשר הוא היסטורי, תרבותי, הרי העם היהודי נוצר והתהווה על האדמה הזאת)..באמת עצוב לראות שדבר כל כך בסיסי הם לא יודעים
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
ואתה צריך לכתוב את התגובה הזאת באנגלית, כי זה מה שהיו צריכים לענות לאותו אינדיאני ששאל את השאלה
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@ori1676 this is what I would’ve said Jews became a minority in the Hebrew land less than 1700 years ago. Always lived there and in the region and are called the Hebrew people after Ever the son of Shem. Peleg was in the days of the first invaders called canaanites and the P word and was exiled to Babylon where Abraham was born in the land of Cassidy one day to return back to his ancestral homeland of the Hebrews דוד מלך ישראל חי וקיים
@DJ_A.K_GOLD
@DJ_A.K_GOLD Год назад
Arabian peninsula exactly . Al Matzri = the Egyptian Al Mugrabhi = The Magrheb . 30000 South Syrians immigrated to Israel in the 1930 , for the purpose of work , where even Churchill said it by himself , that the Arab immigration is bigger and faster , than the Jewish one
@YehudaLion
@YehudaLion Год назад
It's obvious most of them didn't understand the question well. It would be much easier to make the question by asking them if they feel they're related by blood to the ancient Jews who lived there before the Assyrian, Babylonian and Roman/Byzantine occupation periods. That's how you know if they see themselves as indigenous.
@incogb6696
@incogb6696 Год назад
Indigenous is a feeling now?
@YehudaLion
@YehudaLion Год назад
@@incogb6696 It's not a matter of feelings. It's a matter of blood, cultural and histroical connection to a specific land. If you're part of a tribe or nation that developed its distinct social and cultural identity in such land, has a long History therein and still preserves a strong cultural connection thereto, then you're indigenous to that land. That is the case with most Jews (Mizrahim, Sefaradim, Italqim and Ashkenazim). We emerged as a tribe in that land, had our own ancient state, cities, temples and monarchs there, have a language native thereto (the Israelite/Jewish language also known as Hebrew), have our own mythology rooted in that land (as well as other parts of the region) a have an ancient History therein that bounds most Jews across the Diaspora through the blood of our ancestors. Its' the land our ancestors fought for against Egyptians, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks and Romans/Byzantines. Nobody else in that land can make such claim aside from Samaritans (Northern Israelites) and the Muslims and Christians of Jewish or Samaritan origins. We'll never forget it and we'll never leave it again in the hands of foreign occupiers.
@incogb6696
@incogb6696 Год назад
@@YehudaLion since when are Israelites north african since when is 3,300ya ancient… how is invading and only staying for half the time Muslim ruled in Spain mean anything weird your all in North African business and ME business🤔🤔
@YehudaLion
@YehudaLion Год назад
@@incogb6696 ["Since when are Israelites North African"] Are you high on drugs? Since when are Israelites a North African nation? Who told you that? That's insane. We're a Levantine nation. Not a North African one. The Southern Levant is the land where we developed our distinct tribal/national identity and culture. Better start studying ancient Jewish History (as well as Levantine and North Africna in general) before uttering such nonsense. ["Since when is 3,300ya ancient…"] It's commonly accepted among Historians that people who lived 3,000 years or events that took place at that time are part of what we define as Ancient History. ["how is invading and only staying for half the time Muslim ruled in Spain mean anything"] Our connection and presence in the land of Israel as a tribe dates back to more than 3,000 years. The Islamic Caliphate in the Luso-Iberian Penisula (Portugal and Spain) dates back to 1,300 years and didn't last more than 7 centuries. Besides, Arabians and Berbers are not indigenous to the Luso-Iberian Penisula, whereas as most Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel. In other words, Arabian and Berber culture and people are indigenous only to Arabia and North Africa. Not Southern Europe. Huge differences right there. As for meaning anything, it may not mean anything to you, but restoring the independence of our ancient homeland and being able to ensure our survival and freedom means everything to us. But I understand that people like can't stand the idea of Jews being able to defend themselves. You just like weak or dead Jews. Unfortunately for you, Jews like me are not in the bsuiness of pleasing anti-Jewish people like you. ["Weird your all in North African business and ME busines"] I don't understand your. comment. What weird business? Are you talking about the Abraham Accords?
@1feloniouspunk
@1feloniouspunk Год назад
​@@YehudaLion the people who can trace their family back the furthest to being in a particular place. I think that's what the definition most clearly is. i'm open to being wrong.
@Rita1984
@Rita1984 Год назад
Jews dont realize that the entire jewish calendar is agricultural tied to the seasons in israel.
@Univer1132
@Univer1132 Месяц назад
Tell me more it’s interesting
@hadassah5875
@hadassah5875 Год назад
The person asking the question said that he feels his concept of being indigenous is what he does culturally/spiritually connecting to the land. There are numerous mitzvahs in the Torah that only apply in the land of Israel. We just finished a Shemittah (sabbatical) year where many farmers in Israel did not work the land. Lots of produce was imported and even the citrons we used for the holiday of Sukkot were imported from Morocco. If you read the prayers in a jewish prayer book you will read how many rimes we pray to RETURN to Israel. Any time Jews eat bread or a piece of cake we make a blessing afterwards to thank Gd for the food as well as the land of Israel and we pray that we all RETURN to the land. Yes, we are most definitely spiritually connected to the land of Israel.
@1995yuda
@1995yuda Год назад
Exactly! In fact I would argue there is no more "indigenous" people on the planet as us!!
@benb6527
@benb6527 6 месяцев назад
@@1995yuda This is what is so frustrating about groups like Native Americans, Black Americans, African peoples. Their myths of creation are prioritized over DNA, documentary and archaeological evidence. This is what I LOVE about being Jewish and the Jewish people. Our land was taken from us, but we find a way to live and make the world a better place for others. Few talk about the work of Zionist doctors to provide life saving treatments to the entire world while trying to discover Malaria treatments because the disease was prevalent in the swampy parts of Israel that Jews bought from Arabs *in order to avoid accusations of stealing land*. They took the *least desirable parts* of Palestine and turned them into agricultural settlements that infuriated local Arabs - probably because they felt that Jews felt 'superior' for being able to achieve such a task.
@mikeySHBK
@mikeySHBK Год назад
As a jew who's not israeli, every dna test I ever took said that my genetic relatives are all levatines and that my ancestry is 85% canaanite.
@theoutsider078
@theoutsider078 4 месяца назад
I have my doubts about jews that appear dark as night or white a snow..
@mikeySHBK
@mikeySHBK 4 месяца назад
@@theoutsider078 what about palestinians as white as snow or dark as night?
@theoutsider078
@theoutsider078 4 месяца назад
@@mikeySHBK logic explanations for both, so also for the presence of white and black "jews"
@augen8819
@augen8819 Месяц назад
Ashkinasi are east European​@@mikeySHBK
@mikeySHBK
@mikeySHBK Месяц назад
@@augen8819 palestinians are arabian
@sharonstonts
@sharonstonts Год назад
The problem is that they don't understand the question. Most of the Jews believe they come from Judea which is ancient Israel. Also, not all Jews were expelled, some stayed. Is it important to the current situation? I don't think so. The problem is most Palestinians (Arab) think the Jews are foreigners, so maybe it is important after all.
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
well they were foreigners 80 years ago. Those born there and those who spent most their life building up the country are not, of course. I don´t think "being indigenous" is as much a thing in Israel/Palestine as it is outside. And I really hope so, because the discussion doesn´t seem to get anyone anywhere. Some say "Jews are indigenous, because they were there first and always planned to come back" and others say "Palestinians are indigenous because they were there before the Zionists". Now they are both there and have the right to stay there, and no state has ever been justified by being a state of "the indigenous", so the discussion is kind of pointless.
@sharonstonts
@sharonstonts Год назад
@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 right. Some Arabs came to Palestine 200 years, some Jews came 100 years ago. So what does that mean? Nothing. They need to get over themselves and work the issues out.
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@sharonstonts partition plan was rejected and the Arabs vowed to annihilate the state. May the better one win.
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 jews were the majority in the region until 180 years ago when the arabs migrated to the region in large numbers mostly to work for Jews moving there and providing work and ottoman prosecution of Jews in the entire region was well established For further information study Dr. Eddie Cohen research on the topic
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@RobPires The middle east and you should check out the work of Dr. Eddie Cohen
@avim64
@avim64 Год назад
According to Dillon definition of indigenous then Jews are definitely indigenous to Israel. All the Jewish calendar and festivals are definitely linked to the seasons and agriculture of Israel. The cradle and history of the Jews is based in the land of Israel. The seven species - are all indigenous to the land of Israel. Grapes , figs, dates pomegranate, barley, wheat, olives.
@redpoppy4816
@redpoppy4816 Год назад
Christians also have festivals at the same time. Does that make them all Palestinian ?
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
The unique thing about Jews is that they managed to uphold many traditions even through 2000 years of exile. That is all owed to retaining their religion for so long and to how well-documented the religion was even at such an early stage of human culture. However, Jews integrated into their new environments and developed a new culture. When Jews from Europe and Arabia came to Israel, they did have some common customs that date back to biblical times. However, they had different cultures: language, music, mentality, clothing, values, food, and many customs and traditions were different. They were a melting pot society that was based on common biblical narratives and religious traditions, but even more so on their common determination to build a Jewish homeland. The view that all Jews are indigenous to Israel is just very simplistic and ignores a lot of facts.
@redpoppy4816
@redpoppy4816 Год назад
@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 One of the facts that is always ignored is the fact that the Jews from Europe violently expelled the traditional inhabitants, for the purpose of stealing all the land those people owned.
@tzion4914
@tzion4914 Год назад
@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 The modern state of Israel solved that historical issue by giving all Jews citizenship if their mother was Jewish whether or not she was a convert.
@SamSam-ff2jr
@SamSam-ff2jr Год назад
The simple answer is no, because the Jews in the Zionist state are multi-racial and multi-color, came from all around the world and they brought the culture of their origin countries. So how in the world the consider themselves as indigenous?
@GPBKM
@GPBKM Год назад
People have to understand that Jews has continuous presence in that land for more than 4000 years. That's where their nation, culture, language and religion started, so of course that makes them indigenous to that land. I mean, what is the land of Israel without the Jewish people?! Even those who were forced to live in exile for 2000 years kept dreaming and praying every day for "next year in Jerusalem". It's ingrained in their traditions that started in that land. No one has stronger connection to that land than the Jewish people. Anyone saying Jews are illegally colonizing that land is simply ignorant antisemite!
@jenniferhampton5171
@jenniferhampton5171 7 месяцев назад
Can the Arab Palestinian people have equal rights to live, work, settle, rule there in Israel? It must be co-ruled, no? Holy to all.
@abcxyz8787
@abcxyz8787 Год назад
Fact: If you asked Moroccan Muslims if the Moroccan Jews were/are indigenous in Morocco, they would answer - no, they came to Morocco from a different land, If you ask Christian Polish, German, British, Russian, Argentinians etc., if the Jews in their countries are indigenous in these countries, they would answer - no, they came to these countries from another land. Even if you ask Christian American that live in a land of immigrants if the Jews are real Americans, they would answer - no, they are not considered true Americans like white Christians are considered. If you ask anyone in the world where the Jews are originally from, originally, not a few hundreds years ago, they would answer they come originally from Judea/the holy land/Palestine, which ever name you want to give it. And the reason they didn't stay in this land is because they were chased out of it by mighty empires.
@f4wnz132
@f4wnz132 Год назад
Iraqi Jews will ALWAYS be indigenous in Iraq :) Farhud is a dark stain on Iraqi history. Hopefully one day, we'll see more Iraqi Jews come back. We have kept the synagogues preserved. Unfortunately, they're like time capsules now, just maintained, not updated. Iraqi Muslims, Christians and Sabians ❤ Iraqi Jews!
@serioushyena3596
@serioushyena3596 Год назад
😂nobody ACTUALLY thinks that.Geesh😅
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
@@f4wnz132 thats why they were bu tchered and deported? Was that some kind of tough love iraqi style?
@f4wnz132
@f4wnz132 Год назад
@@dogbert52 You are the type of person who thinks all Arabs/Muslims hate Jews and all Arabs/Muslims must die. Your heart is as stone, your mind is dark, your outlook on life is completely pessimistic and you are all around a negative Nancy. I do not wish to debate with you. I will say this though, YOU ARE an example of the problem with the world today. Farhud was perpetrated by what? 100 people? 1000 people? That apparently suddenly means all Iraqis are culprits of the act? "Islamic" terrorists make up what? 100,000 members? Let's exaggerate that number and make it 1,000,000. Still makes up less than 0.005% of all Muslims. Yet you, a worthless nitwit, along with far-right anybody, thinks that all Arabs and possibly all Muslims are bad (and that applies to anyone who overgeneralizes any topic). Even when I say something nice, you come here and try your best to stain it. The world would've been a better place if your dad wore a condom.
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 Год назад
Have you actually asked? I don't think anyone thinks like that
@1feloniouspunk
@1feloniouspunk Год назад
Fantastic question! Thank you!
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
100%. Eventually a question that is not a variation of so many other questions before...but hard to translate, apparently
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 Год назад
Archaeologists find Jewish objects in the depths of the earth almost every day, sometimes an archaeologist or volunteers find something and start crying with excitement, as if they found something of their grandfather that they didn't know, every Jew who arrives for the first time in this country by plane from any country, cries with excitement, and everyone says the same phrase "we We feel like we've arrived home." There are quite a few videos on RU-vid where people say that they didn't know they were Jewish or had no connection to Judaism because of the Holocaust and more, and when they arrived in Eretz Yisrael the fountain of tears opened without understanding what the experience is that they are experiencing, it is impossible to understand at all what happens to a Jew who comes here The first time or every time he comes to visit, it's something else, there is no other explanation except that the Jewish soul awakens. Just as Jews who are far from tradition hear a shofar and cry immediately.
@tanyag5646
@tanyag5646 Год назад
what's so fantastic about a question that wasn't even properly translated. The answers mean nothing in this.
@1feloniouspunk
@1feloniouspunk Год назад
@@tanyag5646 It's fantastic because it seems like it's a whole new idea that the questioned had never even considered before. I like when horizons expand.
@tanyag5646
@tanyag5646 Год назад
@@1feloniouspunk who said they didn't consider it? Again, the question was translated wrong, they had no idea what he was trying to get at. It is actually very much agreed upon in Israel that Jews originate from there.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
▪︎The Jewish calender that is still used today is based on the seasons of Israel. The festivals are based on the harvests in Israel. ▪︎Every day twice a day the Shema is said, which goes _"Hear O Israel, the Lord is God, God is one"_ ▪︎The first fruit of a mother's womb is bought back from service to the Temple in Jerusalem to this day. ▪︎Every synagogue around the world faces Jerusalem ▪︎Every Jewish home around the world has a Tzedukah Box for charity, the organizations are often in Israel to help the aged, infirm, or children. ▪︎ For over 100 years the Jews have bought "Trees for Israel" replanting forests destroyed by the Ottomans and other conquerors that just took from the land. ▪︎ The Hebrew language is the only indigenous language of Israel. It is a Canaanite language, and many archeologists believe the Israelites were a Canaanite tribe that stopped child sacrifice and believed in the one true God. ▪︎Every Jewish cemetery in the world faces Jerusalem. ▪︎ In burial, often people are buried with soil from Israel, to return to their holy land after death. ▪︎At Passover, at every Seder dinner, We state, "Next year in Jerusalem!" To hopefully return to our roots. ▪︎At Chanukah, on the dreidle, there are 4 letters that stand for the saying, "A great Miracle happened there" in Israel the dreidles all have a different last letter. It changes from a "shin" to a "pay". And the verse is now, "A great Miracle happened Here!". ▪︎ At a Jewish wedding, the groom steps on a glass to signify the destruction of the Temple. And to swear that any children born of the marriage will be Jews and to yearn to rebuild the Temple and culture in the land. Even in the happiness of a wedding, we must always remember our people, Israel.
@kennethwebb2081
@kennethwebb2081 Год назад
Well thats stupid, whats your point?
@edithabramowitz1275
@edithabramowitz1275 Год назад
Ďont forget about all the laws and regulations jewish people have regarding growing fruits in the land of Israel
@incogb6696
@incogb6696 Год назад
nope Israelites are not a canaanite tribe, languge was spoken before u invaded. doesn’t matter ur speaking it now or following a religion the actual people made in the middle east. and nope child sacrifice was actually only prevalent by the invading “israelites.”
@incogb6696
@incogb6696 Год назад
@@edithabramowitz1275 ?
@incogb6696
@incogb6696 Год назад
@@kennethwebb2081 she has none besides regurgitating points to make herself feel better she’s not an indigenous
@8xXcoolbeansXx8
@8xXcoolbeansXx8 Год назад
I would turn to the native Americans and ask if some of their nation were exiled ( with some being massacred and some still live on their land), if those exiled family/nation members were forced to make a home for themselves in let’s say Brazil. They speak Portuguese, they eat Brazilian food, but they still speak their native tongue, they still have recipes, traditions, literature, history, and spirituality all connected to that land, continuously passed down through centuries. They pray several times a day over the last two centuries for their homeland to be restored so their nation can be whole again and dwell in peace in the land where their nation first made its home. If I asked them if they still believed they are or felt indigenous to North America, what would they say? Would I be as condescending to imply that at some point their ancestors should have given up on their indigenous status, because a certain amount of time has passed or because of politics? I think we all know what their answer would be. Don’t arrogantly hold others to a standard you aren’t yourself willing to meet.
@markmcelroy1872
@markmcelroy1872 Год назад
Exactly, so for example, are the Cherokee are no longer indigenous? They were expelled from Georgia and resettled in Oklahoma where they have no historical roots. They're just Americans now right?
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@markmcelroy1872 LOL!
@avielhaim1127
@avielhaim1127 Год назад
he was obviously antisemitic, with the way he made his question.
@zackabee5498
@zackabee5498 8 месяцев назад
That’s horrible. So your ppl don’t have a land you go and steal someone else’s land? I think you should’ve share it with a indigenous not take it from them and put them in campus cause I was in campus. The land you should’ve took is Germany since they’re the once who did you wrong not the Arabs. And use European resources not the Arabs oil.
@starhopper1706
@starhopper1706 Год назад
Min 10 - Jewish holidays and traditions are based on the climate and agriculture of that land, and the Jewish nation of people have remained connected to it, no matter where they are. If that level of connection to a land, by people dispersed to all ends of the earth, after century after century of exile, doesn't reflect an indigenous connection to a land, wtf does?
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
All holidays of the Jewish culture are a combination of one or more of local, agricultural, historical, national or religious aspects.
@serioushyena3596
@serioushyena3596 Год назад
Ok and? haha every religion can say the same - such a wacky terroristic mob
@estherriback5938
@estherriback5938 Год назад
@@Pifla Christianity and Islam are proselytizing religions whereas Judaism is not. Hence there were never masses of people converting to the religion, thus most modern Jewish sub-populations (with some exceptions) are ethnically Jewish as well as religiously so.
@starhopper1706
@starhopper1706 Год назад
@@Pifla It's the Jewish homeland for all J, so that would include converts, who are akin to children adopted into a family, thus a part of that family from that point on. The Arabs, otoh, are an enemy with an openly stated goal of destroying Israel who brag about using their pop as a weapon. Who tf would ever let them in? If you had a chicken coop, would you invite a wolf in? (If you want to criticize Israel, criticize that they ever let in the enemy for any reason. That is what needs to change if you ask me.)
@joelhall5124
@joelhall5124 Год назад
The problem with the question is, how far back do your ancestors have to go in an area before you become "indigenous"?
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
yes, and in this case: how long can you be separated from a place and still be considered "indigenous"?
@GlobetrotterBR
@GlobetrotterBR Год назад
Exactly. That native American guy thinks he is so indigenous, but his far ancestors came from Siberia. Would that count too?
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 Год назад
Those are good questions just as the reality that nation states are new in human history. The Jews made a go for a nation state in the region as did various Christians groups like the Maronites and the Assyrians as well as the Kurds only they were more successful. We can't hate peole for being successful. That's called envy. Its a sin.
@aliawesome12fab
@aliawesome12fab Год назад
@@GlobetrotterBR Siberia? What??
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
@@GlobetrotterBR well that´s some 15000 years ago, even more than the 2000 years that some Jews left Palestine, and not refelected in their culture anymore. If we go there, we can just as well say, we are all from Africa. Case closed.
@SebaX92
@SebaX92 Год назад
It’s historical indigenousity, the Jews are connected to this land from historical and cultural aspect.
@annri8248
@annri8248 Год назад
From stealing it 3000 years ago also and now doing it again
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
@@annri8248 Same as the Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula stole this land in 600AD..the question shpuld be if the ARAB Palestinias are native to this land? because last time I checked Arabs are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula
@annri8248
@annri8248 Год назад
@@ori1676 you clearly dont know any history if you think palestinians are REAL arabs. The arabs spread islam through arabic and that is why people that converyed choose to learn the language. That doesnt make Palestinians ethnically arabs. Their dialect is still aramaic when they speak atabic just like Irish people still have an accent from gaelic when they speak english. They arab pennisula didnt have enough population to even take over or replace the levant and north africa. They just spread their language through islam. So nowadays the people from levant or north africa that call themselves arab do that refering to a culture that is similar amongst middle easternerns whether you are from lebanon or egypt. Btw the palestinans just by their look dont look pennisula arab. You can take alook at the jewish Yemenis is you want to see how somebody frolm the pennisula looks.
@NationalismDjazair
@NationalismDjazair Год назад
@@ori1676 palestinians are ARABISED, but they belong in the land actually known as israel. You, israeli, dont belong here. You belong in poland
@SebaX92
@SebaX92 Год назад
@@annri8248 Palestinians today are mix of Moabs, Nabatu, Arab and what was left from Philistinians, in addition to that many of them were mixed with Jews that converted to Islam. It's a big "mishmash". Jews have their culture rooted in this land for centuries. They also did fight and won, proving themselves in the battlefield, and they built up a well functioning state (not perfect but still better than many many others) with great economy and technologically advanced. And they don't want to conquer the rest of the middle east like some Arabs thought in mid 20th century. That's why I think we should stop with violence and start normal talking with the Jews. And I'm saying it here as half Arab Palestinian. After all we're decedent of Abraham, we're a family. Enough with the violence. Judea isn't Palestine. What Palestine is - it's where the original Philistinians settled, in today's Gaza and parts of Synai. And that would be ok.
@wotanmituns33
@wotanmituns33 10 месяцев назад
Native Americans also migrated there from Asia, the only difference is that it was a longer time ago. But it's not like they've sprung out of american land exclusively with no roots elsewhere whatsoever.
@CryptianoUmar
@CryptianoUmar 8 месяцев назад
If you cannot trace your entire tribal lineage to the land you currently reside in, you cannot consider yourself indigenous to that land. For example, in my country, which is tribal in nature, everyone knows their tribe, and I grew up visiting the burial grounds of our tribe's chiefs who passed away centuries ago. All of my ancestors from the tribe are buried in the same land, and I can name over 30 of them
@Cretaelx
@Cretaelx 7 месяцев назад
Well my friend, the Jewish people don't have the same luck as your people. But they nonetheless, regardless of the persecution and diaspora of the Jewish people all around the world, Israel had always considered the only home for Jews that had been taken away from them. Sad reality is that no place in the world would recognize a Jew as their own people, because Jews aren't native in any other place - and I'm not talking about religion, but an ethnic group. The moment a person find out somebody is a Jew, and not necessarily a religious, he then become in their eyes more of that "Jew" than the person they thought he was. It is a miracle that Jew have a place to call home after thousands of years.
@Itsdifferent-wv4jo
@Itsdifferent-wv4jo 6 месяцев назад
Hi pro Hamas, I'm sure you are a Holocaust denier
@notmytruthTHEtruth
@notmytruthTHEtruth Год назад
I thought Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt to Israel 🤔
@falloutman565
@falloutman565 Год назад
Yea he did.
@falloutman565
@falloutman565 Год назад
Do you know how they ended up in Egypt in the first place and forced in to slavery?
@701delbronx8
@701delbronx8 Год назад
@Nicholas Aurum wasn’t Abraham an immigrant from Babylon?
@yellageechee1882
@yellageechee1882 Год назад
@Nicholas Aurum Jews never existed at that time. The nation of Israel began in Egypt and Abraham was from Mesopotamia
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
so Jews are indigenous Egyptians?
@lionofzion
@lionofzion Год назад
I just started watching and doesnt seem that the people being asked the question are being explained what indigenous is
@kimc555
@kimc555 Год назад
So interesting. I think this is the best episode ever.
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 Год назад
It is very simple, there have always been Jews here, and when we were in exile we prayed to the God of Israel to raise us to our land and to build the temple, and to bring us our savior Messiah son of David, 3 times a day, finally we returned to our land as God had promised by the prophets after 2000 years. Now we continue to pray for the building of the temple, and that Messiah son of David will come soon, and we are sure that it will happen. We are sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This land is called the Promised Land because we are the only people in the world that God told us to the people of Israel, come from Egypt and drive out the 7 nations and I command you to settle in this land according to the borders I set for you. 2000 years ago the Romans exiled the people of Israel from this land, and now we are back, we are the same Jews that were 2000 years ago, our Torah and mitzvos have remained the same, the Talmud has remained with us for 2000 years, the tefillin and mezuzos, the holidays and the Sabbaths the same. When you ask secular Jews then you won't get real answers because they don't have any.
@serioushyena3596
@serioushyena3596 Год назад
@@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 So.. what did they contribute? i’m new to this but Canaanites have a shared civilization starting from Canary Islands to Syria.. which is very meticulous and patient spanning over 30,000 years. i’m just trying to figure out how Modern Jews fit in. ..
@tanyag5646
@tanyag5646 Год назад
what is so great about this episode? lmao the question wasn't even properly translated so the answers given mean absolutely nothing
@eyad31ify
@eyad31ify Год назад
@@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 You aren't the same Jews. The jews of today are mixed.
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 Год назад
@@eyad31ify mixed with what? Prove it's true. You have no idea what you are saying, we are the greatest nation in the world, because everyone is mixed, the Jews do not easily accept people to convert. You have no chance. A Jew who wants to get married must bring two witnesses who live according to the Torah and mitzvot to testify that he is single, divorced, widowed, a priest, or not a priest, otherwise he cannot marry, show me another one like that. And then there are investigators better than the FBI who check on that man or woman, and only then does he get permission to marry. If he is a priest, he can only marry a single woman, or a widow, never a divorced woman. From all this you will understand that...with a man who has 613 mitzvot he cannot be involved. A Jew only marries a Jewish woman, and if he marries a non-Jewish woman he cannot live in peace.
@tanyag5646
@tanyag5646 Год назад
Not a fair question to ask when you can't even properly translate it. It paints a wrong picture. Jews are indigenous. Jewish roots lay in Israel. Diaspora is not their origin.
@GlobetrotterBR
@GlobetrotterBR Год назад
They way the question was made and all the remarks they used through the conversations trying to guide the answers, looks like they are trying to make people believe they don't have the right to live in Israel. Plus that Native American is totally confused, off base and mistaken. He was trying to compare two different cultures with two different history. Native Americans were never forced to leave their land and go to the diaspora.
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
actually the follow-up questions of the Native American Jew with the examples she gave, lead many people to answer that they ARE indigenous, especially the second guy. At least that´s my impression.
@aaronstein8585
@aaronstein8585 Год назад
they obviously had an agenda
@GlobetrotterBR
@GlobetrotterBR Год назад
@@aaronstein8585 Definitely. If a guy talks to me with that patronizing way the native American was talking to people, he wouldn't be very happy with my answer. He was like "hey, I'm indigenous to my land, you are not".
@GlobetrotterBR
@GlobetrotterBR Год назад
@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 Try to "read" between the lines. The only persons who realized their intentions was the last lady and the guy from Denver.
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
@@GlobetrotterBR the second guy in the beginning said "I am not indigenous" but after the explanation of the Jewish Native American lady, decided that maybe he is indigenous after all. Her other explanations and follow-up questions were similar. It seems that in her opinion Jews are at least to some extent indigenous to the region.
@interestingyoutubechannel1
@interestingyoutubechannel1 Год назад
LOL what a question. No matter where a Jew is in the world, what time of year does Passover (Israelite festival of Spring) happen?? When the barley plant ripens... in the land of Israel! When does the Israelite/Jewish 'New Year of the Trees' happen?? When the almond tree begins to flower... in the land of Israel! When does the Jewish festival Shavuot happen?? When the wheat is for harvest in the land of Israel! When does the Jewish festival Sukkot happen?? When the agricultural harvest of Israel's crops is finished, before the season is ready for the next sowing of seeds i.e. Israelite holiday of relaxation and happiness! This festival does not go by Iceland's climate and nature cycles! In the Jewish ancient texts, how is the hut meant to be built for Sukkot?? Using native Israelite plants. How is it decorated?? Using native Israelite fruits. I could go on... Our culture, calendar, *language* are indigenous. The world's academic experts in archaeology all agree in consensus that the Jews' (Israelite) origin is Samaria, Israel - from the evidence found in the ground. The diaspora exile of 2000 years proved one thing, its that we have not forgotten our homeland, our forefathers wept every year thinking of Jerusalem. Every Jew, atheist or religious, in the diaspora continues to say "next year in Jerusalem" several times per year, their whole life.
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
The second part of Grace After Meals is a blessing of thanks for the Land of Israel, the third part is a blessing for Jerusalem the Temple. Thats a 3-6 times a day reminder. Daily morning, noon and evening, 18 blessings prayer, another 3 times a day reminder.
@dannyh7894
@dannyh7894 Год назад
Jews originate in Samaria! Doesn’t that make Samaritans ancient Israelites who btw exist till today! 1500 yrs ago there was about 1 million Samaritans where did they go??? They converted to other religions mainly Islam!! They believe that amount Gerzim is holly of hollies not Jerusalem!!
@serioushyena3596
@serioushyena3596 Год назад
@@dannyh7894 those aren’t real samaritans i don’t think they say they had a mysterious disease wipping away not 1,2 but 3 million😂🤣😂😅 how come they wear the fez from morocco, used by Ottoman elites in the 19th century! these people are LOST and making everyone play along with their stup1d game
@interestingyoutubechannel1
@interestingyoutubechannel1 Год назад
@@dannyh7894 yeah Samaritans are Israelites of course, and they consider Jews, including those in diaspora, to be their fellow Israelites. And yes of course, some of the Muslims of Israel used to be Samaritans and Jews. which is why I find the Palestinian Arab nationalist claim of indigenous peoples a funny claim, because it would mean they were once Jews/Samaritans. But they say never, which means they came with the Islamic caliphate colonists, or more recent period like the many economic migrant Muslims from Jordan and Egypt in the 19th and 20th centuries.
@dannyh7894
@dannyh7894 Год назад
@@interestingyoutubechannel1 it’s 3000 years ! You need to stop talking about history of land as if it has to b frozen in time for that long to b valid! Languages, cultures and civilizations evolved and migrations happened due to famine or wars! TODAY Palestinians (Muslim and Christian) identify as Arabs that does not negate ancient roots being Jewish or what not! Islamic conquest and Arabization was not settler colonialism! If that’s the case then the whole region would b Othmans and Spaniards would be Arabs!! No one questions identity of neighboring countries! Morrocans can b originally Amazigh, Iraqi’s Babylonians, Lebanese originally phonecian, Egyptians r Coptic but just Palestinians r originally Arabs from modern day Saudi 😏 how convenient!!
@EzraB123
@EzraB123 Год назад
Might as well ask if the earth revolves around the sun. Swab any cheek of any Jew and no rational person would deny we're native.
@EzraB123
@EzraB123 Год назад
@@tomjones5431 Yes any Jew.
@EzraB123
@EzraB123 Год назад
@@tomjones5431 If you're referring to the Beta Israel, yes, even them.
@EzraB123
@EzraB123 Год назад
@@tomjones5431 There was never large scale conversion to Judaism anywhere in Europe. Such a thing was considered apostasy and punishable by death for most of history, particularly after the Roman Empire adopted Christianity. Judaism was recognized by the Roman Empire but in those days "Jewish" was more of a nationality, and conversion to it was very uncommon among European polytheists. Jews were also allocated to specific areas of cities, and couldn't travel without written authorization. The result is a generically isolated population that almost never marries outside itself. It was far more commen for Jews to convert to Christianity, for the sake of social pressure or marriage. In Poland in the 19th century, about 300 Jews a month converted to Christianity. So it's far more common that non-Jews have Jewish ancestry, not the other way around. This is particularly common among Latin Americans. That's why Ashkenazi Jews today don't cluster genetically with other central European populations. They cluster with Sephardic Jews, Syrians, Greeks, Samaritians, and other Mediterranean/Levantine peoples. Conversion to Judaism did happen, but it was never at a large scale, and the places it did occur were primarily Jordan (in biblical times) and in Yemen and Ethiopia. But these converts were absorbed into the wider Jewish population. The largest genetic study ever done on Ashkenazi Jews was at Wayne State University in the U.S. It and every other genetic study proves beyond any doubt that Ashkenazi Jews are by and large Levantine. The European ancestry that they do have isn't German or Slavic either, it's almost exclusively Greek or southern Italian. digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol/vol85/iss6/9/
@EzraB123
@EzraB123 Год назад
@@tomjones5431 Israel is a secular country. It has no official religion, it has a prime minister, president, Supreme Court and Parliament (Knesset) with 120 seats. 3 out of those 4 bodies are composed based on democratic elections. 17 members of the Knesset are Arab, Christian or some other non-Jew. 1 Supreme Court Justice (George Karra) is Christian. Israel also had an acting Arab Druze president in 2007 named Madjalli Wahabi. It has 3 Druze fighter pilots and many high ranking Muslim military officers, diplomats and ambassadors. Israel also has Arab political parties, including religious ones, such as Balad and Joint List. These parties advocate for Arab interests and Arab voters, and have Jewish support. They make up the second largest political opposition in the Israeli government. Arabic also has official legal recognition, meaning schools teach in it and those schools are funded by the state. The only institution that the Chief Rabbi has power over is marriage, kosher food, and public transit during Shabbat, which runs in Arab localities to accommodate non-Jews. Israel is a secular state and legally speaking it is far LESS theocratic than most countries in Western Europe, where Christianity remains the official religion. Israeli doesn't mean "Jewish". It's a nationality than includes well over a million Muslim, Bedouin, Christian, Druze and Circassian minorities. Most people have internalized generational antisemitism so the idea of a Jewish state sounds funny or unfair to them. It isn't, Jewish is a nationality and always has been. Even with an elementary knowledge of the Israeli government you would know everything I just said. Maybe read up on something before commenting. Complaining about Israel being a Jewish State is like complaining about Ireland being an Irish state and saying "muh what about the non-Irish who live there." Unless the Arab league is willing to give property, homes or financial compensation to the 1 million Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews that they massacred and expelled, then Israel has no obligation to do anything. If you start a war and lose, then you aren't entitled to a prize. The Arabs that sided with Israel were unharmed and that's why they're 20% of Israel's current population.
@EzraB123
@EzraB123 Год назад
@@tomjones5431 How is that different than the cross being on the flags of: Sweden Denmark Norway Finland England Iceland Australia Georgia Greece Malta Lichtenstein Switzerland Etc Or the Cresent Moon/Shahada being on: Algeria Azerbaijan Turkey Uzbekistan Pakistan Saudi Arabia Tunisia Tajikistan Malaysia Libya Etc For whatever reason, you think equal treatment of Jews is oppression of non-Jews, when it isn't. A Jewish state for Jews isn't the slightest bit different from an Irish state for Irish, or Armenian state of Armenians or Greek state for Greeks. It's the same thing. Minorities are present in all places and they are treated equally.
@19bendunk
@19bendunk Год назад
you don't really asking. you trying to force a narrative. this land been conquered and passed so many times.. at the end we mange to go back to Abraham land. your such a amateur RU-vidr..
@Jakefiz1
@Jakefiz1 Год назад
This is a hard discussion because it’s difficult for most people to separate ethnicity and nationality and what clearly defines “indigenous”. The indigenous Americans and Australians were cut off from most of the world until fairly recently and the rest of the world had constant movements of peoples and different nationalities and ethnicities coming and going with empires rising and falling and countries forming and collapsing. ESPECIALLY for the levant region which is a region that has seen the MOST comings and goings of different peoples and cultures. But its undeniable the Jews have a unique tie to the land and its also undeniable that a lot of Palestinians have lived there for many generations and also have a unique tie to the land. The indigenous argument of the levantine region doesnt make sense because of the nature of its positioning and place in the history of the world. The Jewish/Palestinian conflict is incomparable to the european colonization of the Americas for this reason
@almi726
@almi726 Год назад
typical zionist response. verbal gymnastics to make the israeli apartheid and illegal occupation justified then throw in a “but it’s undeniable that Jews have a unique tie to the land”
@maragolihistory2118
@maragolihistory2118 Год назад
How comes it's only Europeans who insist that their fellow C-a-u-c-a-s-o-i-d Jews are indigenous to Palestine?? No other none C-a-u-c-a-s-o-i-d agree with you except for those who were conquered and submitted to Christianity.
@cherryboo65b56
@cherryboo65b56 Год назад
Look up pics of indigenous Israelites from early 1900’s and they were dark skinned people. Not white skinned European looking people
@redpoppy4816
@redpoppy4816 Год назад
@@cherryboo65b56 They spoke Arabic as their first language. Not Hebrew.
@maragolihistory2118
@maragolihistory2118 Год назад
@@cherryboo65b56 Correct. European wants to delete all the ancient indigenous people. Ancient Hebrews were dark skin.
@sagimeltzer4668
@sagimeltzer4668 Год назад
get a hebrew translator ffs
@idrisahmed4794
@idrisahmed4794 Год назад
بارك الله بني اسرائيل. انت من هذه الارض
@cosimodirondo972
@cosimodirondo972 Год назад
Let's look at some prominent "Palestinian" Arab families to see if your assertion is based on sound historical facts or just quotidian Arab propaganda. 1 - The Husayni (Husseini) clan claim descent from Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Mohammad, the founder of Islam; Husayn hailed from Medina, which is in the Arabian Peninsula. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Husayni_family 2 - The Nashashibis clan are of Kurdish, Turkoman or Arab origin. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashashibi 3 - The Barghoutis are a sub-clan of the Bani Zeid tribe that hails from the Hejaz, a region in western, present-day Saudi Arabia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bani_Zeid_al-Gharbia 4 - The al Khalids hail from Mecca. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Khalil_(family) 5 - The Nusseibehs hail from Medina. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusaybah_clan
@starhopper1706
@starhopper1706 Год назад
7 min "At what point does a group of people stop being indigenous to a place and become indigenous to somewhere else" ... Various places around the world have been homes to various groups of J, but ONLY Israel is the indigenous homeland for ALL. And it has been so for millennia, during which there has been a continuous Jewish pop there. It does not stop being the ancestral Jewish homeland based on how many are there at any given time.
@microbubble6113
@microbubble6113 Год назад
very simple we are call yehudim (jews) that comes from the word yehuda(judea) its one of the tribe of israel its the land of israel and judea where all the tribes of israel where living for thousands years . king david was from judea he united the tribes of israel and judea
@eliyahufogel
@eliyahufogel Год назад
It's not true that native Americans never left their lands. They moved from place to place, both voluntarily and involuntarily. Likewise, Jews have been forcibly removed from Israel and were prevented from returning for most of the common era. There were always a small community of Jews in the Galilee continuously since before the common era.
@matiasbrachini8741
@matiasbrachini8741 Год назад
True: NATIVE AMERICANS always moved from place to place, volutarily & involuntarily WITHIN the American continent.
@ibrahimsued4906
@ibrahimsued4906 Год назад
It's such a simple question: where all those jews in the world come from. Where did they become what they are, just today? The Land of Israel.
@nicolekashtan1985
@nicolekashtan1985 Год назад
The people asking the questions are very condescending/rude. They are trying to tell the Jews “you are not welcome in your homeland.”
@billyhughes805
@billyhughes805 Год назад
Plenty of people would say that isn't their homeland.
@anawa7edminalnass206
@anawa7edminalnass206 Год назад
Who’s Homeland?? Those European who already killed natives in America and called America promised land The same people doing the same thing again claiming that they are indigenous to Middle East.
@mogambo4565
@mogambo4565 Год назад
By their logic most refugees from middle east who live in west are not gonna be indigenous to their land in a generations time like syrians yemeni which belong to war torn area
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
If you were truly indigenous, it would not bother you, and you will have the facts to back it up.
@tanyag5646
@tanyag5646 Год назад
What's the point of asking this when this topic is clearly not a part of their socio political discourse and when they don't know how that is being twisted and instrumentalized against them? (Even when Jews are in fact indigenous)
@markmcelroy1872
@markmcelroy1872 Год назад
That's also true for a lot of questions Palestinians get asked.
@ronaldshiffman9171
@ronaldshiffman9171 Год назад
This question is insulting to Israelis and absurd. ALL peoples of the world have migrated at one time or another. If you can find the location of the Garden of Eden (which no one can) that is where it all started and where we all migrated from. This question is pure politics and insulting. Doesn't deserve a response.
@ron4501
@ron4501 Год назад
Any time archeologists discover ancient objects in ISrael, they are Jewish in origin and not so-called Palestinian. What does that tell you about who is indigenous?
@kamsulaman7007
@kamsulaman7007 Год назад
Palestinian ancestors could of been jewish as islam is 1400 years old, just because they changed their religion shouldn't mean they forgo their right to the land
@littlegreenmoth
@littlegreenmoth Год назад
Surely the answer to this question comes down to DNA and the Levantine link within most ethnic Jews DNA, whether that be Ashkenazi, Mizrahi or other minority Jewish groups?
@SherryAzaniyah
@SherryAzaniyah Год назад
So true my dna put me in Armenia were noah ark landed and with the natufians of the levant region and Palestine in beit sahour near Bethlehem so i guess mine put me right there by blood 😀
@rogerlephoque3661
@rogerlephoque3661 Год назад
At last, someone who understands what's what.
@DJ_A.K_GOLD
@DJ_A.K_GOLD Год назад
Corey , most of them didn't understand the word indigenous .. You should ask them ( Shorashim ) , meaning do you believe you have Shorashim from this land , and that your forefathers are originally from here ..... The only guy who understood , was the religious hassidic at the end , when he said Abraham , isaac and jacob ... All others didn't understand
@ghostagee5232
@ghostagee5232 Год назад
Was Abraham indigenous? Are Ashkenazis indigenous?
@DJ_A.K_GOLD
@DJ_A.K_GOLD Год назад
@@ghostagee5232 Are arabs indigenous to the so called Arabian peninsula ??? Are indians indigenous to America ??? Are the so called Palestinians of today , the same Greek people of 4000 years ago ??? Are the Ashekenazi jews indigenous to Europe , Nooooop
@untitled7184
@untitled7184 Год назад
Song about Tu bishvat (Jewish holiday of the new year for trees) The almond tree is blooming And the golden sun is shining, Birds atop each roof Brush (bless) the arrival of the festival.
@demoscratos4577
@demoscratos4577 Год назад
Corey really nailed it with this video ! Wow ! Great video
@littlesushi7503
@littlesushi7503 Год назад
Some Israelis are indigenous (Jews and Samaritans) and some are not indigenous (Arab israelis and Palestinians)
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Год назад
Some Arab Israelis and some Palestinians. The real ones from before 1900 have Jews or Israelites as their ancestry. Watch the video, *"Palestinians of Jewish Ancestry Higher Resolution"* on Misiani Tzvi You Tube channel.
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 Год назад
Where do you think Palestinians came from? They were local people that became Christian and then many Muslim
@theoutsider078
@theoutsider078 3 месяца назад
@@stevenv6463 exactly, people are so brainwashed that they fail to see that the majority of Palestinians are converted jews
@JBugz777
@JBugz777 Год назад
Corey man, I gotta agree with the rest of the comments here - You can't just drop a word like "Indigenous" on your average Israeli without at least knowing yourself the Hebrew equivalent (יְלִידִים)
@davidtrak2679
@davidtrak2679 Год назад
ילידים is also a very Americanized foreign concept. You'd just need to evoke the nationality aspect, not to talk about the "are you from here" sense to get a honest response - most think they are. Most do not think of it like America, in the sense of, people of the world, come to the place of freedom and rejoice, but strictly as a nation state to the Jewish people.
@jasonkemmerer5654
@jasonkemmerer5654 Год назад
@@davidtrak2679 *Salvation* can be found in no other name under Heaven other than THE NAME of Jesus THE CHRIST/BSHEM *YESHUA* HA MASHIACH. for HE alone IS THE ONLY WAY THE ONLY TRUTH and THE ONLY WAY to Eternal life and no one gets to HASHEM/GOD except through HIM. so i only ask all who are here if not already to please choose this day to trust in YESHUA HA MASHIACH that HE died in your place to make atonement for your sins that was separating you from GOD so that by believing this and trusting in HIM that HE rose from the grave that you too by believing in HIM will one day rise from the dead and have eternal life and be saved from The Terrifying Wrath of HASHEM that is to come to all who reject YESHUA as THE MESSIAH of Israel and SAVIOR of The Whole World that HE rightly, truly IS. i ask please do this so that even today will be your *Day of Salvation*
@davidtrak2679
@davidtrak2679 Год назад
@@jasonkemmerer5654 Mary was not a virgin, this is a mistranslation of an unmarried woman, to a virgin (never had sex).
@jasonkemmerer5654
@jasonkemmerer5654 Год назад
@@davidtrak2679 i have been taught some things by the Messianic rabbi Zev porat and in my very uneducated opinon i do believe that he is an Israeli Jew that knows The Truth about THE MESSIAH and he knows hebrew as it is his first language and he says that the hebrew word used in Isaiah 7:14 "almah" can mean young maiden/young woman but also can mean virgin and during Isaiah's time when the passage was written the word "almah" often referred to virgin and not just a young woman. furthermore, the passage of Isaiah 7:14 it states that ADONAI HIMSELF will give a sign and then says that the "almah" will give birth. now if you truly believe that the Prophet Isaiah only was saying "young woman/maiden" in this passage then there is a problem; for where is the sign ? for young women often give birth and there is nothing special about that but if indeed Isaiah was prophecying that a "almah" to mean a "virgin woman" will give birth than truly that is a sign from ADONAI HIMSELF for in my very poor and many times mistaken opinon i do not believe that anything like this has ever happend before in human history except for when it happened here with the "almah" aslo called Miriam/ Mary when she gave birth to THE MESSIAH OF Israel
@davidtrak2679
@davidtrak2679 Год назад
@@jasonkemmerer5654 True, alma as well as the Greek παρθένος parthenos meant just that - a maiden that never had sex. It was synonymous obviously, for much of history. So therefore there's nothing wonderous about an unmarried woman having a baby, it was unaccepted, but not divine. I'm not referring to Isaiah in specific, but for the Greek passages about Mary. As for Isaiah, the Hebrew "ot" just means sign, a sign for Isaiah is that his wife, his maiden which he married, will now bear a child, which is a sign, and he should name him Emanuel - God is with us. Nor do I see a connection between Isaiah 700 years before Jesus - The prophecy talks about the life of said Emanuel, the kid, his life nothing like Jesus, talking about two kingdoms disappearing from the world - Assyria among them. Again, nothing to do with Jesus 700 years later. Sorry, but you preach out of nowhere and expect, what, exactly? Respect for your religion which you preach unwanted?
@elinorpolity8394
@elinorpolity8394 Год назад
Ok so I’m from Israel. people here don’t know what indigenous means. You also explained it poorly in Hebrew and said its like being a local. You should have asked if they think they have clam to this land and if their ancestors are from here. If you would have said that they would have answered with yes. We are indigenous to this land because unlike any other group of people, there is historial and archaeological findings that prove we were here over 2000 years ago. Like the Qumran scripts for example. We didn’t leave this land willingly, we were forced out. Its exactly the same as Indians today that still feel indigenous even though they we exiled by Americans.
@clicheguevara5282
@clicheguevara5282 Год назад
Key point: Two THOUSAND years ago. You got conquered - like we all did at some point in history. Get over it. Christians aren't "indigenous" to Rome or Nazareth just because that's where their religion comes from. Most of you are indigenous to Europe and have no direct traces back to Israel. The difference between Native Americans and Zionists is that Natives didn't create an army and start doing ethnic cleansing on whites so they could reclaim the majority of the midwestern United States. They didn't use their oppression as an excuse to turn around and oppress other people many generations later. Native Americans aren't patrolling the streets with tanks and bulldozing American suburbs so they can set up tee pees and buffalo hunting camps. You're nothing like them.
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
we´ve had both questions before, whether they think that their ancestors are from there and why they claim the land... again and again. It doesn´t convey the same meaning as "being indigenous".
@annri8248
@annri8248 Год назад
Except you stole it from the beginning 3000 years ago
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
@@annri8248 From who? Archeologists believe the Israelites were a Canaanite tribe that stopped child sacrifice and believed in the one true God. So, who did they steal it from? There are archeological sites of villages from the same time period that have Israelites and Canaanites living side by side. The Israelite villages have no pig bones or shellfish waste in their food waste.
@annri8248
@annri8248 Год назад
@@shainazion4073 the jews came from egypt and i read that the zionist overexagerated when they said that they had conqured all the land. The tribe of Israel was just that a tribe in a huge land that spoke many languages. The palestinians are the decendents of the canaanite people. The jews came from egypt according to your own tales
@mollyrishon3902
@mollyrishon3902 Год назад
23:51 BRAVO!!!! Everything that I wanted to say; he said. KOL HA'KAVOD.
@israteeg752
@israteeg752 Год назад
By definition, Judaism is an ethnoreligious religion. Its entire language, culture and belief system connects it to life in the Land of Israel as its place of origin, whether one aspires to do this while living in diaspora or actually fulfills this by residing in Israel. From that aspect, it makes Jews indigenous to the place.
@whatkarmasays8663
@whatkarmasays8663 Год назад
Judaism is a religión lolz the actual jews are from US Morroco Germany China Africa Argentina xD very crazy this people.
@meownyan3925
@meownyan3925 Год назад
you can say the same about christianity. hence the crusades.
@israteeg752
@israteeg752 Год назад
@@meownyan3925 you can say it , but it would be inaccurate. While Judaism is mostly ethnoreligious meaning its followers share common ethnicity as well , Christianity's mission is to spread the faith which by definition caused this religion , as well as Islam for that matter, to include a large portion of followers across various ethnic groups that are indigenous to different locations.
@ngxoxo
@ngxoxo Год назад
@@meownyan3925 christianity isn't an ethnoreligion, there isn't a common genetic component and it's a proselytising religion
@esthergayoba7735
@esthergayoba7735 Месяц назад
Saying Judaism is an ethnoreligious religion isn't entirely correct. There are many Jews today whose origins are not from the Levant region. There are also many Jews who may be able to trace some of their ancestry to ancient Judea, but have intermarried so much in their new communities making that part of their DNA quite small. Both Judaism and Christianity originated in the same place so one could argue that Christianity is also an ethnoreligion. Yes, Christianity is a proselytizing religion and Judaism isn't really, but that doesn't mean that people haven't converted to Judaism throughout the centuries. Not all Jews share the same genetic component.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
They dont understand what indigenous is. Corey should have asked them did Jewish culture start in Israel. Are Jews an ancient people coming from Israel.
@salRL-eb3zc
@salRL-eb3zc Год назад
Obviously yes, the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed and its remains are still standing. All Jews prayed in synagogues, both in Arab countries and in Europe, without changing a word in the Bible and the prayer, ironically the nation is mentioned both in the New Testament and in Christianity, and in Islam. Judaism also has a unique language that did not exist in any other country.
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
The interviewers are interested following current USA identity culture definition of indigenous.
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
But then he knew what they will answer..... so he went for an american woke concept that they wont understand. Pretty nasty and clever.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
The present day Israelis Jews are not indigenous, who are mainly from Europe. The ancient Israelites Judahites are not indigenous either because according to their Torah story Abram(Abraham) came from Chaldean not Palestine (Canaan, Philistine). Both the Canaanites and Philistines are Hamites. I don't know why any of you are brining up DNA, as far as I know no ancient Israelite tomb with a bone has been found to this day. If they did find any Sumerian tombs, I am sure they made it a secret for obvious reasons. The only ancient DNA to compare to find out who is Indigenous in that area are the ancient Egyptians(Khemites, Hamites, Mizraimites) that is a fact. I say this because in the Moses(Mosheh) story, in order for him to pass off as a Hamite(African Mizraim) he will have to look like them African. It is some crazy people on here who want to say the ancient Egyptians(Hamites, Khemites, Mizraimites) are Caucasians or Middle Eastern anything but what they are African. This is an ancient Hamite Pharaoh, Ramses the third's DNA. newsrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/rameses3dnaresults.jpg As you can read, he is African. Not Mediterranean, Middle eastern, Levant and all the other nonsense names to cover the truth.
@matthewbishop7547
@matthewbishop7547 Год назад
There is no definition of indigenous as its used in the progressive world that excludes the Jews from laying claim to it in the land of Israel. Ancient Jewish Art, culture, and religion all speak of returning to Israel. "Next year in Jerusalem" Jews have said for centuries at the end of the Seder. "If I forget you, Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill." is written in the Tanakh written thousands of years ago. coming after jews for not being indigenous to israel is so bizzare considering all 3 of the worlds major monotheistic religions have it recorded that jews come from that land. Palestinians, although they didnt always go by that name until recently, have also been there a long time.. enough to also claim that title. because honestly, if one peoople group have been there 3000 years and another people group have been there 1700 years, does one really have more of a claim than the other? the land should be shared and jews and palestinians should learn to forgive and live together in peace. and way more jews want that, than palestinianians. a much larger perecentage of jewish israelis would be happy to share hte land with equal rights if there was a truly a guarantee of peace. how many palestinians would say the same? probably less than 5%. both populations have serious problems with intolerance but its far worse among palestinians
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
Appropriation of the title Palestinians and the branding Arabs as such are a result of a July 1964 initiative.
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
Web tools that show use of words over time will show it to you.
@nonono275
@nonono275 Год назад
At 14:10 or so he mentions how they have an oral tradition how they came to the land, Jews also have an oral tradition. It's just that it was written down and now we call it the Talmud.
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Год назад
The Talmud does not have how we came to the land, the Torah does ,
@Ash_tommo
@Ash_tommo Год назад
Smart question, says it all Their answers didn’t make any sense
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
Because for some reason he chose to ask dumb people this searious deep question insted of educated or religious people... only the guy from Colorado was well educated
@mattikarosenthal3298
@mattikarosenthal3298 Год назад
Did you read the Torah portion this week? The land was given to us by HaShem! So that was a really inappropriate question, because of the Diaspora, we all come from somewhere, I have Cuban cousins I have Puerto Rican cousins, Greek cousins Turkish cousins, Romanian cousins and even Ashkenazy‘s. We are a melting pot, and yes originally we are indigenous to the land from the time of Moses, that’s why it’s the promised land because it was promised to us and now that we inhabit it, what is all the fuss about? It is our land, what do you mean are we indigenous? And do you think that the American Indian is indigenous? Do you think they were in the Americas the same time that the Jews were in the Sinai desert? I don’t think so, because all the Indian populations from the Alaskan, to Central and South America, and the rainforest, have the same DNA markers, they are all one people, and they don’t just inhabit the south western part of the United States. They were all over the East Coast as well. I choose to go by DNA markers, and you can get a Moroccan, A Tunisian, Yemenite, Someone from Tripoli, to a Turkish And Greek Jew, And we all have some of the same DNA MARKERS. Even some of the African tribes have the same DNA markers. No we are all one people, never mind that we all look different, and that we have absorbed different cultures, and yet the Cohen‘s of every race and ethnicity, all carry the same DNA markers. We are all Yahudis, all B’nai Israel.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
The Yahweh of the Torah story had no land to give to his people, so he told them to go invade the land of Canaan and take their land and make it their own. The Yahweh(Enlil) never had land to give his children.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@Hodia Israel The Yahweh you follow had no land to give, he is a bum. That's why he told his creation to go kill other people and take their land. Read the story.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
Don't go overboard. None of the African tribes show any Jewish pattern DNA. The Lemba that they thought had the CMH gene, matches the Arab side of the gene tree, not the Jews. They were most probably introduced to the gene through the Arab slave trade.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@shainazion4073 Jew is a religious title, nothing more. A title that Libana converts gave to themselves.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
@@amonone399 Jew has nothing to do with religion. It is short for Judean. The People of Judea.
@yonikatz3513
@yonikatz3513 Год назад
The respondants clearly didn’t understand the word ‘indigenous’. However, towards the end of their responses when speaking freely they began describing how Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel though not as a direct response to your question which they did not understand. Throughout the entire video I was wondering why Corey was choosing to use the words ‘local’ and ‘native’. In my head I kept saying, “Use the word ‘originate’.” He finally asks the last woman in the video, “Do Jews originate from Israel?” She responded with an immediate, “Of course!” Her answer is correct.
@marksimons8861
@marksimons8861 Год назад
I suspect it is because Google Translate gives both ילידי and מקומי for Indigenous/native.
@yonikatz3513
@yonikatz3513 Год назад
@@marksimons8861 Possibly.
@DJ_A.K_GOLD
@DJ_A.K_GOLD Год назад
Shorashim , meaning were your forefathers from the land . Most didn't understand the word indigenous
@redpoppy4816
@redpoppy4816 Год назад
@@DJ_A.K_GOLD *RECENT ISRAELI VIOLENCE IN JENIN ALONE:* (Sept.) Invading Israeli soldiers kill 19-year-old, injure another, abduct 5, in Jenin (Aug.) Israeli Soldiers Kill Teen, Injure Young Man, Abduct Two, in Jenin invasion (July) The latest victims in Israel’s ongoing slaughter of Palestinians (June) Israeli forces kill another Palestinian teen, 4th Palestinian killed in 48 hours (June) Israel killed 4 more Palestinians over the weekend (May) Shireen Abu Akleh’s death exposes Israel for what it is - a murderous regime (May) Israeli Soldiers Kill A Palestinian Teen In Jenin (May) Israeli forces use Palestinian girl as a human shield in Jenin
@yonikatz3513
@yonikatz3513 Год назад
@@DJ_A.K_GOLD Right.
@cosimodirondo972
@cosimodirondo972 Год назад
There has been a continuous Jewish presence in Israel since the end of the last Jewish-Roman war in 135 CE. The Jewish Zinati family, from the village of Peki'in, trace their unbroken presence in the land from the end of the last Jewish Commonwealth -- that is, nearly 2, 000 years ago! No Arab family can make this claim. Here, see: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9Gkm7DOTa7Y.html
@avi3860
@avi3860 Год назад
Ancient Jewish history, origins, religious symbols, and objects connect the earliest known Jewish traditions to present-day Jews in Israel. SHEMA: is “the” most important prayer in Judaism: "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is One; Deuteronomy 6:4. the fifth and final Book of the Laws of Moses; also known as the Torah and passed down from generation to generation to present-day Jews who inhabit their Holy Land of Israel. Jews recite the Shema as their last words on earth, and in times of crisis. The first record of the Shema was found in the Nash Papyrus dated 150-100 BCE (BEFORE CHRIST’S ERA). Jews progressed from Bar Kokhba (132CE) days when our ancestors wore woven, flax fabrics to today’s jeans and synthetic t-shirts - our casual dress and modernized, slang Hebrew, do not make us any less Jewish than our forefathers who spoke Aramaic/Hebrew and who wore long, flowing robes and shawl head coverings and lived in communities in the Kingdoms of Judah (JERUSALEM WAS THE CAPITAL) and Israel. Jews, who were exiled from Israel in 70AD by the Romans and later from Arab lands, carried with them and treasured with love, reverence, and respect, for their rituals and religious symbols, (proved by Roman and Egyptian historical records of that era). The Arch of Titus in Rome, carved in stone, is a testament to Jewish origins in the land of Israel. Modern-day Jews preserved these traditions, rituals, and Judaism which they carried with them during their expulsion to “distant lands” and continued the love and respect of Judaism even during the darkest days of the inquisition and holocaust. SHABBAT: lighting Shabbat candles is an ancient ritual, blessing the incoming JEWISH Sabbath. Lighting candles and the blessing of Shabbat started about the 8th or 9th century CE and still remains one of the most basic and important JEWISH commandments - “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”. Millions of hidden Shabbat candles on Friday nights, brought the light of HaShem into secret, dark corners, concealed from the evil eyes of German and European Satanic forces. Even though Israel is partly a secular society, many secular and observant Jews still strictly uphold this commandment. KIDDUSH: Origins of Kiddush (Blessing of the wine on Shabbat and Jewish festivals). The tradition of Kiddush originated between the 6th and 4th centuries B.C.E. (Babylonian Talmud, Brachot 33a). However, the text that is in use today originates from the time of the Talmud (200-500 C.E.). KIDDUSH CUPS: have been used for centuries for blessing wine and the bringing in of the Sabbath - still used in Israel and throughout the Jewish world. MENORAH: hundreds of 3,000-year-old menorah(ot) (candelabra) have been discovered all over Israel in ancient SYNAGOGUES and wherever Jews congregated for religious festivals. The Menorah is an ancient symbol of Israel and was adopted as the national emblem of the modern State of Israel. Confirmation of ancient Menorah can be found in Rome on the Arch of Titus - proof of Jewish existence before the Roman era. Replicas of ancient, religious objects were fashioned according to original early specifications and were used faithfully in ceremonies and rituals in secret “Synagogues” and Jewish homes in the ghettos and death camps of Europe. These precious religious objects were brought out of the ashes of Europe by Jewish refugees after the war to the USA, Canada, South Africa, Australia, and Asia and most importantly back to ISRAEL after the historic rebirth of the land of ISRAEL and the return of Jews to their homeland. One can enter any observant Jewish home to find Jewish religious symbols and vessels which were used by the Jews before 70AD and centuries before the 1964 Arabs aka Palestinians were invented by Arafat the Egyptian. STAR OF DAVID: (MAGEN DAVID/SHIELD OF DAVID) is one of the most obvious emblems of Jews. The Star of David was created in the 17th century to symbolize JEWISH communities.
@serioushyena3596
@serioushyena3596 Год назад
😂😂😂star of david is stolen from Morocco’s 11th century coins (no creativity)
@mollyrishon3902
@mollyrishon3902 Год назад
It is actually sad, that these young people don't really know about their roots, ancient history, and connection to the land through centuries of Judaism where it started with Abraham. Every rock, hill, and valley, the sacred sites tell the story of the JEWS. It is told in archeology, the Bible, Torah, and even the Quran - Every song, and yearning prayer sing about returning to King David's Jerusalem, and every ancient map shows the lands of the 12 Tribes of Israel: including Judea and Samaria. People from Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Europe are Jews; who most probably light Shabbat candles and at least go to synagogue on Yom Kippur; and even if they don't, ancient Jewish traditions, rituals, and customs originated here in this our holy land; and those who came back from the Galut don't know this fact. But.... at least they came home. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
well they know about it. It is just that their grandparents came from another country recently and they brought along their own traditions. The way some people want to see it, it just doesn´t work. It is impossible to stay in a country for 2000 years and than "come back" and not take anything along. Jewish European culture developed in Europe. Jewish Arab culture developed in Arabia.
@redpoppy4816
@redpoppy4816 Год назад
As you say: +People from Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Europe are Jews_ But, just as importantly, they are culturally also from Iraq, Syria etc. *Thus they do not fit the definition of **_indigenous_*
@hampadanfana6140
@hampadanfana6140 Год назад
They are not indigenous people but the descendants of Jewish converts from various indigenous countries are Palestinians whose genetics are connected to Jacob, Isaac and Abraham!
@MoeELsadek
@MoeELsadek Год назад
its not sad its the truth, zionists are not indigenous.
@InDoMiNuS
@InDoMiNuS Год назад
@@hampadanfana6140 Palestinians are migrants from Arab countries, they have no historical connection to the land of Israel.
@s.sflower
@s.sflower Год назад
Fascinating!
@leongreen5332
@leongreen5332 Год назад
This is perhaps the most fascinating and relevant video. I'm guessing that the two questioners are Native Americans. They are forcing their subjects into some really important self examination. It is truly wonderful and perhaps should be extended
@yoavhi94
@yoavhi94 Год назад
seconded. there is much more to say about this subject. but although it's always interesting to hear the "opinions from the street", and although it is the concept of the channel, I think that this question could really benefit if it was debated by people that are more educated on the topics that it touches and that have a better understanding of the terminology.
@leongreen5332
@leongreen5332 Год назад
@@yoavhi94 I get where you're coming from, but I'm not sure what you mean by educated. I guess you probably mean Sociologists, Anthropologists and Political Scientists. I don't know how interesting or informative that would be except for students of these subjects. But perhaps a debate between political activists from different parts of the political spectrum would be really useful and interesting. Obviously Arab Israelis and Palestinians would need to be included.
@yoavhi94
@yoavhi94 Год назад
@@leongreen5332 Maybe educated is not the right term. What I mean is a more thorough debate/s with people who are more learned on the topic, even if it only means that they understand the terminology. I like this question because it can be viewed from a numer of very interesting aspects, not all political but all have political implications
@ef2718
@ef2718 Год назад
Very poorly prepared and very poorly executed. Projection and arrogance on the interviewers side, poor understanding, poor language and articulation skills on the interviewees side.
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@leongreen5332 Jews became a minority in the Hebrew land less than 1700 years ago. Always lived there and in the region and are called the Hebrew people after Ever the son of Shem. Peleg was in the days of the first invaders called canaanites and the P word and was exiled to Babylon where Abraham was born in the land of Cassidy one day to return back to his ancestral homeland of the Hebrews
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 Год назад
I love the lady at the end. I am a Canadian who has spent time in Israel and with FN/Metis communities in Canada and I love them both.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
We are indigenous to Israel more so than native Americans are indigenous to America. Native Americans evolved in Asia and migrated into the US 18,000 years ago. We jews have ancestors in Israel going back a hundred thousand years.
@soniahemmati2372
@soniahemmati2372 Год назад
@Rachel Samuel first of all, according to genetic studies Palestinians are local to Israel/Palestine and are mostly Arabized locals. They speak Arabic and are Muslim due to Arab Clonialism in the past. With your logic all countries in Latin America should not even exist and since they are Christians and speak Spanish too, they can all go back to Spain. Also, eventhough Jews are also local, they also have significant ancestry from their host population in the diaspora. So they're not totally local either.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
@@soniahemmati2372 "Studies" lol I research all of those studies and I also study individual autosomal DNA results from Palestinians that have been posted online etc. The correct ethnicity of a Palestinian is a Levantine Arab. It's the same DNA in Palestinians that's in the people of Syria and Jordan. They cluster closer to Arabs from Yemen and Saudi Arabia than they do with Jews or Lebanese. Lebanese are arabized Canaanites but Palestinians have enough Arab ancestry to be considered Levantine Arabs, not Arabized Levantines. It differs from family to family. Christian Palestinians are proven to have more local ancestry. You can tell if a Palestinian is really a local, he will have blonde hair and green eyes and pale white skin. That's the indigenous look, honey glazed, with a rosy glow. The Arabs in Jerusalem and Hebron trace to the caliphate exclusively, but I saw the results of a man from Gaza and he was about 10% Ashkenazi jewish and 15% Egyptian. Some of them are mixed with Ashkenazi, Mizrahi etc. But the number one most prominent Y dna haplogroup amongst all Palestinians is a variant of J which is known as the Israel and Palestine Arab Clade and it is proven to be original to prehistoric Arabia, meaning they most common paternal lines amongst average Palestinians trace them back to the caliphate
@soniahemmati2372
@soniahemmati2372 Год назад
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkrEven if what you say is totally accurate, it doesn't make any difference since being in a land for over 1400 years surely makes you local. Also, I didn't deny the fact that Jews are also local and have legitimate claims, but they also have significant ancestry from their host population in the diaspora as well and so aren't totally local either and don't have a right to ethnically cleanse the territory from Palestinians or Arabs. For Ashkenazi Jews, whom constitute more than 80 percent of Jews globally, at least their maternal line is proven to be mostly from Europe, not the Levant.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
@@soniahemmati2372 Actually what you say about the maternal lines of Ashkenazi is not proven, needs more study, lacking enough prehistoric dna samples from the region, many of these flawed studies were later debunked and there is a great debate over whether the maternal line of Ashkenazi with the current science showing a far higher percentage of Levantine ancestry than previously thought. Ashkenazi is the most pure type of Southern Levantine, most closely resemble the ancient look. the others are more mixed, we have only a bit of Italian and old French on the maternal line, but our maternal line is over 60% from the levant. Palestinian on average even are a few percent black, because they owned black slaves they mixed with and we never did that.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
​@@soniahemmati2372 There is a territorial dispute in Israel, there is some disputed land there. Jews technically could expel the Palestinians to Jordan and Syria but we are nice so we don't do that. We never did a genocide on Arabs but Arabs have done a few genocides on us, so if anything Jews do have a right to ethnically cleanse Arabs to teach Arabs how it feels. Arabs ethnically cleansed us out of their section of Jerusalem and out of Gaza and Hebron. They ethnically cleansed us out of the entire middle east, except for our sliver of land we still retain. We are like Indians on a reservation and the Arab colonists keep encroaching.
@cosimodirondo972
@cosimodirondo972 Год назад
Here's Greco-Roman historian Cassius Dio (164-c.235) as to whom the land belongs to: "At Jerusalem, [Hadrian] founded a city in place of the one which had been razed to the ground, naming it Aelia Capitolina, and on the site of the TEMPLE ... he raised a new temple to Jupiter. This brought on a war of no slight importance nor of brief duration, for the JEWS deemed it intolerable that foreign races should be settled in THEIR city and foreign religious rites planted there." [All emphases mine] (From Cassius Dio, Roman History 69.12.1-14.3) Question, where were the "Palestinians" when the Jewish People were defending their homeland from the Romans?
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
According to the story, Abraham, and his clan came from Ur which is present day Iraq.
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
Handeling.... goats in the saudi deserts?
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
@@amonone399 One man came from Ur, not Africa. And he was an Aramean not an African.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@shainazion4073 I already said that a while back, you forgot? According to mythology, he was Chaldean.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
@@amonone399 His wife Sarah, also his cousin is described in scriptures as being White and beautiful. Their uncle "Laban" means white man.
@HWouk
@HWouk Год назад
This is what you get when you don’t live a religious life.
@RoundTable2024
@RoundTable2024 Год назад
Would you please mind elaborating?
@estherriback5938
@estherriback5938 Год назад
@@RoundTable2024 I think s/he means that Judaism is rife with references to the Land of Israel, the liturgy has numerous mentions of the wish to return ("Next Year in Jerusalem" etc.), the Jewish calendar being predicated on the seasons in Israel (e.g., there is no reason to pray for rain in Sep-Oct in a country with no dry season like Poland), certain religious commandments that only apply in the Land of Israel, etc. Religious people refer to this information daily and should be familiar with it, making the question of our indigeneity a simple one to answer. Add to that the genetic studies showing most Jewish groups originate in the Levant and are related to each other, and the archaeological evidence (Dead Sea scrolls, the recent findings in the City of David, the Siloam Inscription), and it's very clear that there is very good evidence that Jews are indigenous to this land. (As a side note - I got the same feeling from this video as I get from those videos of young people in the US being asked the simplest general knowledge questions - e.g., "What country is the Panama Canal in?" - and failing miserably 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀)
@tinyflyingdragons9432
@tinyflyingdragons9432 Год назад
uhm, because her ancestors were in israel thats why.
@bretwein3793
@bretwein3793 Год назад
Both of these Native Americans obviously have European ancestry that being said. Now even if these two never had any admixture they still do not originate in any part of the Americas because their DNA can trace them back to Asia, specifically the Siberian region.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
My people did not come over the Bering Strait, and we are dark skin with woolly to wavy hair. We are not 5 dollar Indians, we are the originals.
@natievgi4987
@natievgi4987 Год назад
זה למה אני אוהב את הערוץ שלך ועוקב שנים אתה מראה לעולם את הישראלי.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
We have 55,000 years old skeletal remains of our ancestors in Israel that we found in a cave. There's nothing like that in the United States. We actually evolved in Israel since the prehistoric. Native Americans are technically just Siberian Eskimos who kept chasing buffaloes until till they got to north America.
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
55,000? Going for the palistinosaurus?
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
@@dogbert52 I said 55k not 55 mil lol
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
That is far from the truth.
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr
@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Год назад
@@amonone399 it's the exact truth. Quit lying
@SiddharthSingh-up2gs
@SiddharthSingh-up2gs Год назад
It's surprising , they don't know the word indigenous 😳😳
@carljacobson7156
@carljacobson7156 Год назад
Is Jewish History not taught in Israel? Even the College Professor from Denver gets swept up in Academic jargon, instead of sticking to the actual History of the Jews. Most Israeli Jews feel that their ancestors originated in Israel/Canaan/Palestine and were dispersed by the Romans - and that they feel that they are 'Coming Home' to the lands of their Ancestors.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
That's a cute fantasy story. Once upon a time.
@carljacobson7156
@carljacobson7156 Год назад
@@amonone399 As opposed to declaring Jerusalem your 'Eternal Territory' because, in a Dream, your Prophet claimed to have been flown to the Temple Mount on a winged horse? Israel/Palestine/Canaan belongs to whoever can hold it.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@carljacobson7156 I don't follow religions. I did read the stories. I have not seen a winged horse. A helicopter fits what it was that creates a world wind. tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.hRy665Bo8tmJ2KwqZDPUZgAAAA&pid=Api&P=0 I don't care about the land at all. It is not a land of milk and honey, as it says in that mythology book.
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Год назад
@@carljacobson7156 He's a black supremacist that believed that the Israelites were black people.
@captainbilly9443
@captainbilly9443 Год назад
Jews are "indigenous" or, more correctly, originate from Judea and Samaria. Israel is the native homeland of the Jewish people, regardless of where a Jew may have been born. For example, if a Native American from the Cherokee tribe is born, raised, and lives in the UK, for whatever reason, he/she is still an Indigenous American.
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26
@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 Год назад
It is very simple, there have always been Jews here, and when we were in exile we prayed to the God of Israel to raise us to our land and to build the temple, and to bring us our savior Messiah son of David, 3 times a day, finally we returned to our land as God had promised by the prophets after 2000 years. Now we continue to pray for the building of the temple, and that Messiah son of David will come soon, and we are sure that it will happen. We are sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This land is called the Promised Land because we are the only people in the world that God told us to the people of Israel, come from Egypt and drive out the 7 nations and I command you to settle in this land according to the borders I set for you. 2000 years ago the Romans exiled the people of Israel from this land, and now we are back, we are the same Jews that were 2000 years ago, our Torah and mitzvos have remained the same, the Talmud has remained with us for 2000 years, the tefillin and mezuzos, the holidays and the Sabbaths the same. When you ask secular Jews then you won't get real answers because they don't have any.
@nabatean180
@nabatean180 Год назад
Are these jews in the video have same appearence and culture to the people before the exile?
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
@@nabatean180 The Jews probably intermarried with locals durring the diaspura (probably female converts) this is why they look so diverse, but it doesnt change the fact that some of their ancestors from the past were from here, so yeah in some way they are indigenous even if they are geneticly mixed with other ethnicities
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@nabatean180 we have kept our culture tradition and ancestry from Shem
@yosefgreen3130
@yosefgreen3130 Год назад
@@ori1676 very small amount of convert women were accepted into the Jewish population millennia and a half ago and this is shown through genetic testing that 40% of Ashkenazy share 4 European maternal mothers
@user-rs3lb5fb5v
@user-rs3lb5fb5v Год назад
Could be asked like an analogy after definition Who are the indigenous people of US? Then, Who are the indigenous people of Australia? Then Who are the indigenous people of this country?
@markriding1267
@markriding1267 Год назад
Nice examples of previous genocides,could of used Tasmania too but that genocide was 100% 🤫
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
I am Indigenous to America(Turtle Inland Amexum) any questions.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@markriding1267 I am not, no east Asian, we did not come over the Bering Strait.
@simplyme475
@simplyme475 Год назад
The Torah renders Jews indigenous to Israel, whether one believes in it or not. I have spoken to a Jew, who goes back 500 generations living in Israel. I think to the 17th Century, if i remember correctly, hes most definitely indigenous to the land. But i think what qualifies us being indigenous to Israel is our Jewishness.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
Oh, my I guess that makes it true then not.
@rxtr664
@rxtr664 Год назад
🤣 What the hell is this nonsense!
@cathy2356
@cathy2356 7 месяцев назад
I'm not doubting he's indigenous but we humans probably average 3-5 generations per 100 years ... Jesus was only about 60-80 generations ago - I've always found it interesting how close we are to our ancestors in terms of generations. 500 generations would go back a good 10,000 years ... We were hunter gatherers and there were animals like the wooly rhino and saber toothed tiger around.
@guywhousesapseudonymonyout4272
At 10:19 where Dylan, the young Pueblo Native American ties his sense of indigeneity in his culture's connection to the land, and the rituals connected with it, one sees, unfortunately, that completely secular Isrealis don't know how to answer in a way that he could relate to. A religious Israeli, or someone educated in Jewish custom and culture, would have heard about the "Mitwoth ha teluyot ba'ares" the commandments connected with the land, such as shmitta and yovel that can only be observed in Israel. I am a very secular person myself, but it's too bad that young seculars have never heard of these things.
@starbright2304
@starbright2304 Год назад
Ask the Persians. They allowed the indigenous people return to Yehud province. BTW the sound is not great.
@Matzieu1
@Matzieu1 Год назад
I’m Canadian, and my family has been Canadian for 400 years. Am I indigenous? No. Am I connected to the land? Is my culture connected to my country? Yes. Does being indigenous make you a better citizen? Probably not
@matiasbrachini8741
@matiasbrachini8741 Год назад
The First Nations are indigenous to Canada. You are a descendent of either anglo-saxon or french invaders. Simple as that.
@daddyshaq-td3kq
@daddyshaq-td3kq 7 месяцев назад
Does being a settler give you the right to displace the indigenous population to creat a settler-colonialist state?
@Matzieu1
@Matzieu1 6 месяцев назад
I didn’t displace anyone. I was born here, no choice in the matter. My ancestors came here to escape poverty and persecution,just like most Israelis, and the 1 million new Canadians that got their citizenship in 2023. Speaking of which, are new Canadians (most of which are Arabs) settlers too?
@daddyshaq-td3kq
@daddyshaq-td3kq 6 месяцев назад
Yes, Canada acknowledges that we are settlers on stolen land. Canada has wiped out most of the indigenous population, but the ones that remain are compensated, and there is a reconciliation program. The zionist state is far from that and has no right to displace the native inhabitants, and does not allow Palestinians to return to their homes. So yes you are part of the zionist project that is built at the expense of the native inhabitants, and you continue to violently oppress them with your unconditional support to the zionist state. Israel is a racist Jewish supremacist state. My point is you can be a settler, but everyone deserves equal rights. Arab-Israelis (A racist term that erases their Palestinian identity) are 2nd class citizens in Israel. Israel's Constitution is racist. Palestinians in the West Bank live under military occupation, and there's nothing to justify that. Gaza is under siege and is one of the worst genocidal campaigns in modern-day history. Canada doesn't have a military occupation of its native inhabitants, there is racism and discrimination but Israel is not even subtle about it. And you'll never be connected to the land the same way Palestinians are, you don't know the traditions, the foods, the music, the culture, or the language. You only know how to steal 😂@@Matzieu1
@thetrip9874
@thetrip9874 Год назад
All Jewish people (aware or unaware) are of ancient Judean (Israeli) origin. We are definitely ‘indigenous’ to the Land Of Israel. We as Jews were even nicknamed Jew for Judea, - in Arabic Yehud, in Hebrew Yehudi , which all means Judea - Today known as Israel. Modern Hebrew is no different than ancient Hebrew other than the new words (nouns) added to the language for the Modern era which were non existent in ancient Israel. It’s the same grammar. For the most part of the 2,000 years in the Diaspora we’re there small numbers of Jews living in their Homeland Israel. History can prove that. The Rest of the Jews living in the Diaspora were exiled and expelled from their homeland suppressed under the many world empires such as the Greek, Persian, Roman, Byzantine, etc. Eventually the overall Jewish Ethnicity changed according to the Native (or rather the Local) country they lived in. However the Jewish Biological Gene is still intact. There’s DNA testing that genetically separate Ashkenazik Jews apart of the Europeans. While it’s been proven that Israel is the Land of the Jews through it’s History and Literature, some people had an initiative of creating a Theory called the ‘Khazar Theory’ (saying that we are of Turkic Origin and not Jewish), which denies the connection of the Ashkenazik Jews to the Israel. The point was to target the Zionists (who are of Ashkenazik origin) who fought for the Modern State of Israel. That theory has been disproven. Our Torah has been given to us 3,334 years ago on Mount Sinai in the Sinai Desert. The Torah Scripute has not been changed since. We traveled in Exile for almost 2,000 years witnessing many Empires Rise and Fall, we were persecuted by the infamous crusaders , Spanish Inquisitors, Cossacks, Nazis etc. We carried the Torah throughout our long painful Journey. Whether you come from Iraq or Morocco or Germany we go by the same Torah and it’s commandments in it’s original format. Same Scripture, Same Oral Tradition. We kept our faith in GD throughout the massacres and persecutions. Our Longing for the Ultimate Redemption, the coming of the Messiah and the Return to A Rebuilt Holy Temple in Jerusalem hasn’t stopped in the past 2,000 years since the destruction of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem. We are the Jewish Nation From Israel granted to us from GD and we have a Connection to the Holy Land. Am Yisrael Chai!!!
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
That's a very interesting mythology story.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
I will go to the Torah story. Noah and Naamah had three sons, triplets Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Barashith (Genesis) 5:32 And when Noah was 500 years old, in that same year Naamah “the pleasant one” his confidante wife gave birth to three children, triplets coming out in this order: The first was Shem “he who is of the rocketship,” the second Ham “burnt” and the third Jepheth “he who was added on.” Shem Ham and Jepheth are triplets and all three are dark skin woolly hair people. If they were three different races, it would had been recorded. You all call the Hamites Africans and this will back up what I said about them all being dark skin woolly hair people Shem, Ham and Jepheth. Abraham is a Shemite he was according to the Torah story Chaldean which is located in present day Iraq. Abraham who would have to be a dark skin woolly hair person because Shem, Ham and Jepheth were triplets and Ham means dark skin. I will go to the Moses story that is in the Torah. In order for Moses to pass off as an African prince he will have to LOOK like them African and this backs up what I said about Shem, Ham and Jepheth being dark skin woolly hair triplets. I will also note Abraham had three wives, Sarah his half sister and 2 Hamites Hagar and Qeturah. Jew is not in the Torah, it is a name made up by converts to try to link with Judah(Yudah). You call yourselves Israeli and not Israelite because you know you're not the original people described in the Torah stories. This is Ramses the third's DNA, a Hamite. Sub-Saharan African 80 percent and 60 percent central African. newsrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/rameses3dnaresults.jpg If you want to say you follow Judaism, fine but don't lie and say you are those people from thousands of years ago, that is far from the truth. In fact, none of those people in the entire region are the originals. You all either pushed them out or aside. The last Egyptian(Khemite) Pharaoh was Anwar Sadat, and he would have made peace in what you all call today the Middle East within weeks after he signed a peace treaty with Israel, but the Mossad assassinated him. I know the Mossad is run by people who don't look like Israelis today. I will leave it at that.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@Velociraptor No, you are talking nonsense. I read the Torah stories, and you do not fit the description at all. And your story is a fantasy.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@Velociraptor You know that's not true.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@Velociraptor Prove me wrong, all that I have said, or stand down. Use the Torah. If you have DNA, I want to see a body or a bone of an ancient Israelite.
@seekingwarrior17
@seekingwarrior17 Год назад
I liked everyone in the video from beginning till end. Congratulations
@yazariahlabanyasharahla3548
It's funny they couldn't answer the question? Being Jewish is not the same as being a Jew. Israeli is not the same as Israelite. A good question to ask is why don't they fit Prophecy . Isaiah ch 2:02-3 it says when the Israelites return their will be no more War, but in 1948 they had to fight to get in the Land till this day. Question 2 Isaiah 14:01-02 When has the Israelies enslave the rest of the 17 Nations as promised? Thank You.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
But there are still over half the Jews in the world not in Israel. They are still scattered among the nations. Unlike you who your people were never in Israel, you are a black African, not an Israelite.
@sydpatrice4491
@sydpatrice4491 Год назад
@@shainazion4073 💯
@dooley8746
@dooley8746 Год назад
Why don't they fit that prophecy? That's super easy to answer. You're reading future predictions from very long ago, expecting that the prophecies haven't already come true. 1948 is long after the events you're reading about. When it says no more war, it doesn't mean no more war ever, but rather that the war that was happening at the time it was written would end. And it did. Then there were many more wars after that, in the interim between then and now. When did Israelites enslave the other nations? Probably when there was a Jewish pharaoh, the ethnicity of the pharaohs and the controllers of Egypt changed hands many many times back when Egypt was the ruling empire of the world. Sometimes through military conquer, sometimes through pharaohs having multiple wives from differing nations and his intended line of succession not going quite as planned (lack of a male heir through the head wife, sickness, murder plots, etc). And then another nation conquered Egypt and thus the control of those other nations. Then eventually Rome became the ruler of most of the world instead of Egypt. And so on and so on. So modern day doesn't need to fit those prophecies. It's a common mistake people make because there is so much history and most people aren't taught the full history because making everyone in the world experts on the long history of one tiny piece of land is impractical, no one would ever accomplish anything else. Often time faith leaders aren't even aware of the answers to these questions, but are expected to have the answers and that's how so many people still look for these prophecies to still happen, not realizing they have. There's many examples of people looking for things to happen that have already happened. For instance, many people of all faiths fear the end of the world will happen with the construction of the third Jewish temple, not realizing a third temple was built in the times of Josephus farther north of the original temple(this third temple is still there, though it's present owners refuse to count it as THE temple because the location changed, in modern times it has been relabeled a synagogue instead, yet at it's construction it was called the new temple). The end of Israel as a independent nation occurred roughly around the same time as that temple's construction... the Jewish people became subjugated. The world didn't end, just Jewish independence. Chock that prophetic discrepancy up to difficulties in translating over and over again. Those Isaiah prophecies were fulfilled, but not everyone got the memo, that information got lost somewhere in the game of telephone that we call history books. The rulers of the world stopped calling the land Israel, even if the people themselves never stopped. Not the end of the world, but the end of their recognition as independent nation. And then later the land and people of Israel became subjugated by yet a different empire. Etc, etc. Skip past a bunch of more history, and then more recently, in modern times, the world's nations decided to make Israel an independent nation again. (Perhaps there were prophecies about that happening, but they either weren't recorded or weren't given much credence and never became as well known as Isaiah's.) There are also still people today who want Israel to come to an end again, so who knows how many more sequels there will be. The story's still being written, we just put the updates in the news or in history books, instead of adding to the religious texts.
@trashdanieli
@trashdanieli Год назад
Most people didn’t understand your question!
@abc_cba
@abc_cba Год назад
Lol, and you think the Arabs are indigenous to Israel and Palestine/Judah ? Until the Ghassanid tribes started moving ? Lol 🤣
@ori1676
@ori1676 Год назад
Yes the quesion is if the ARABS are indigenous to this land? and if so why they are calling themselvs Arabs because Arab people are the indeginous people of the Arabian Peninsula?? weird
@soniahemmati2372
@soniahemmati2372 Год назад
First of all, according to genetic studies Palestinians are local to Israel/Palestine and are mostly Arabized locals. They speak Arabic and are Muslim due to Arab Clonialism in the past. With your logic all countries in Latin America should not even exist and since they are Christians and speak Spanish too, they can all go back to Spain. Also, eventhough Jews are also local, they also have significant ancestry from their host population in the diaspora. So they're not totally local either.
@abc_cba
@abc_cba Год назад
@@soniahemmati2372 Here comes a colonizing empathizer
@thesilentway1086
@thesilentway1086 Год назад
Well if the issue is to embarrass Jews to admit they are not at home, that is bullshit, the academic guy was more obvious but he elaborated the subject too much, The point is that Jews originate from Israel even if there were hundreds or thousands of years in diaspora, DNA tests show very clearly even with European Jews that they have at least 30% middle eastern DNA contrary to Polish, Russians ,Ukrainians or Lithuanians. On the other hand most of 95% of Palestinians weather with or without Israeli citizenship can trace their Indigenousness to Israel for no more than 120 years or 4 generations as well as most of Jews. I would also add to that argument the fact that most countries in Western World do not have an indigenous majority (like China, India, Japan, Korea) and probably making that questionary in France would be less interesting although there most are not indigenous. So the subject could be much more complex and every place has its own degree of indigenousness to its peoples. The point I am trying to bring up is that author (of that video) took his liberty to define indigenousness as presence of one in a place for thousands of years - that can be redefined again.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
You go back to the Moses story in the El's Torah, he was fished out of the Nile river by a Khemite Queen right so in order for this baby to pass off as a Hamite prince he will have to look like them, it is no way around this. This is Ramses, the third's DNA. This is around that time period. tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.90dqPCsGmOVm2mf2n9chuAHaEo&pid=Api&P=0
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Год назад
AshkenazI Jews habe From,60% to 80% of Levantine DNA.
@littlegreenmoth
@littlegreenmoth Год назад
So Anglo Saxons and Germanic peoples are indigenous to Europe and the British Isles. Do they have any rights to preserve their culture and history in the same way that indigenous American Indians do?
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
Anglo saxons are indeed from the engels and saxony regions of germany.
@AdamMJ90
@AdamMJ90 Год назад
It really felt like the Indian American was trying to push his agenda of 'you can't be indigenous because you moved 2,000 years ago'. Who is he to decide what defines indigenous. The Jews were kicked out from Judaica by the Romans, and kept their Jewish traditions for over 2,000 years - if that's not indigenous, then I don't know what is... If you feel connected to a land as a collective with people of the same culture and blood, then you are indigenous to a land - simple.
@annri8248
@annri8248 Год назад
They also took parts of the land from the Caaniltes when they came from egypt. Some how you guys always seem to forget that little part of history. No you are not and never where levantine!
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
@@annri8248 Archeologists know that there are Israelite and Canaanite communities at the same time. Even in the Torah, they did not destroy the Canaanites as God asked.
@dogbert52
@dogbert52 Год назад
@@shainazion4073 all the bots started using "cannanite" now. Must have been some new trend in al jizzira or something.
@justintrud-un7475
@justintrud-un7475 Год назад
If the native Americans get exiled for 2,000 and come back to America, are they still native?
@noneya3969
@noneya3969 Год назад
Unfortunately for you the tribes of Canaan were there before Abraham migrated from Babylon. Also, the Israelites were Semitic people, not European converts who spoke Yiddish and ate nasty ass Gifilte fish. Another fake Jew who doesn’t know his own Bible. FRAUD 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046
that´s an interesting question and shows how difficutlt the use of the term "indigenous" is in practice.
@theoutsider078
@theoutsider078 4 месяца назад
excellent question
@sunlightcaller6219
@sunlightcaller6219 Год назад
Ryan Bellerose, a Metis indigenous rights activist from Canada, explains why the Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v6k1gugifwA.html
@prinpi
@prinpi Год назад
There are myriad of historic mentions of the Jewish people as being indigenous to the area, alongside other peoples. And if they are not, where are Jews indigenous to?
@soniahemmati2372
@soniahemmati2372 Год назад
They are indigenous, but they also have significant ancestry from their host population in the diaspora as well according to genetic studies. Also, according to genetic studies Palestinians are also mostly Arabized locals.
@fuschiacandy
@fuschiacandy Год назад
This isn’t a hard question at all. I’m so amazed how it’s made to sound so difficult.
@jamesr8584
@jamesr8584 Год назад
It is a hard question, because it can be interpreted in different ways. The Native Americans say they are indigenous, but originally they came from Asia or because they lived in North America for so long, are they then considered indigenous? Is someone born in Israel considered indigenous, if not why? Yeah, this is a hard question.
@fuschiacandy
@fuschiacandy Год назад
@@jamesr8584 no it’s not. Native Americans, Aboriginals, Orang Asli of Borneo, Indiginous Brazilians, Inuits, Aleutians, i could go on forever - these people stayed on their land for hundreds of years, they have hundreds of tribes/ communities scattered around the land, they never left and fight to still live on their land. It’s a straightforward question, don’t complicate it
@jamesr8584
@jamesr8584 Год назад
@@fuschiacandy Jews have in Israel for thousands of years. All others that are in the land are outsiders that came at one time or another. All you did was define the terms. You said they have to be in the land for hundreds of years. Why hundreds? Why not 50 years, or 1050 years? What if an Aboriginal family moved to Britain and the kids born in Britain all moved back to Australia 20 years later, would those kids still be considered indigenous? It is not complicated when you make up your own rules, but different people have different rules.
@fuschiacandy
@fuschiacandy Год назад
@@jamesr8584 aboriginal people don’t leave their land mate, so technically that Aboriginal person would not leave to go to Britain. An aboriginal person would find it incredibly difficult to leave and be seperated from land and community. I live among aboriginals in Australia so just don’t talk about them like you know they will ever want to leave. And no, it’s still not a difficult question. Period.
@jamesr8584
@jamesr8584 Год назад
@@fuschiacandy Okay, but what if they were forced to leave. Then they were allowed back after 20 years and they had children in Britain. You are avoiding this because it is so difficult to answer.
@user-zf8xk5cu4u
@user-zf8xk5cu4u Год назад
although i have roots in Yemen and North Africa. im still an Israeli Jew. i was born here. as well as my parents. Hebrew has always been my language not Arabic. although i Appreciate Jewish Yemeni tradition, i have no connection with Yemeni idenity or the land. would love to travel in Morroco but Israel is my homeland.
@zenarcade64
@zenarcade64 Год назад
I didn't watch the whole thing, but you intentionally left out the reason for the existence of Israel. Did you ask Holocaust survivors (or their kids) where they came from originally and if they feel more connected to Israel or Germany or Poland?
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Год назад
A Jewish state in The Area of Palestine was approved in 1922. The Balfour Declaration was 1917 and the Faisal-Weitzman papers was 1919 at the Paris Peace Conference. The Holocaust was in the 1940s many years later,
@zenarcade64
@zenarcade64 Год назад
You do know that Israel didn't exist until 1948, correct?
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
@@zenarcade64 Its existence was forthought out decades before the Holocaust. Facts!!
@Linda43
@Linda43 Год назад
The older woman spoke true words to the young couple at the end. First know us and our history/ culture/ religion, then question our authenticity.
@liammulcahy9506
@liammulcahy9506 Год назад
Guten Tag Frau Sheckel my dear delusional German friend. " First know us" Who is this us? Is it your German ancestors? So what about those Weirdos Frau Sheckel. ULTRA ORTHODOX EXTREMISTS ASSAULT WOMAN FOR SITTING AT FRONT OF JERUSALEM BUS Little Ultra Orthodox Jew to Daddy Ultra Orthodox Jew " Look Daddy...... There is a woman sitting at the front of the bus" Daddy Ultra Orthodox Jew " What..... A woman sitting at the front of bus. That is not allowed in our" Religion ".......... The Holy Torah says that women are not allowed to sit at front of the bus......... You just sit there little one........Me and my buddies will sort out this unclean woman...........Come on lads....... Help me to drag this unclean woman out of the bus " Very strange people...... So Israel has its very own Taliban
@solvingpolitics3172
@solvingpolitics3172 Год назад
Never seen that logo before from the Mossad. It looks like a take off on the Pinkerton detective agency’s, is it? They have the best logo ever.
@kennethwebb2081
@kennethwebb2081 Год назад
I dont know shit about your history/culture/religion nor do I give two about it. Ill still question the fuck out of it
@liammulcahy9506
@liammulcahy9506 Год назад
@@Linda43 Guten Tag Frau Sheckel my dear delusional friend. The good old Mossad who killed their own people!! BEN GURION SCANDALS. How the Haganah and the Mossad eliminated Jews :author Naeim Giladli. Iraqi Jew Naeim Giladli delivers the painful truth about the Zionist rape of Palestine and the deliberate planting of Anti Semitism in Iraqi Jewish communities during Ben Gurions political career in order to persuade the Iraqi Jews to immigrate to Israel. "I write this book to tell the American people and especially the American Jews........ That Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel....... That to force them to leave Jews killed Jews" What kind of people kill their own Frau Sheckel........ This is so sad.
@solvingpolitics3172
@solvingpolitics3172 Год назад
@@jacobrodriguez1150 Checkout the Pinkerton Detective Eye.
@houseofsofia6650
@houseofsofia6650 Год назад
It seems to me that they didn't understand the question because of translation issues.
@danrizoelectric
@danrizoelectric Год назад
This question would become obsolete in a normal society. If people would act humanely toward each other, it wouldn't matter if one is indigenous or not. We are made of dirt and we go back into it. But in order to preserve a resemblance of sanity and logic, I would consider indigenous, a person born out of the land, of the minerals coming of a particular piece of dirt, the human body is built from. This is just strictly technical speaking, the same way some would say " we are what we eat".
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Год назад
That is not the definition of indiginenous, if your people,came to America like the Europeans,,no matter how many geberations they live there. Europeans ate not indigenous to America. It is where their culture developed. Europeans did not develop as a culture in the Americas,
@danrizoelectric
@danrizoelectric Год назад
@@rachelsamuel3328I do understand the comolexity of the definition of indigenous. But in a time when traveling around the globe with such ease, it might be a good time to update the concept of what it means to be indigenous. We should try to see ourselves as humans first and indigenous to a certain mineral area , second. Eventualy we'll all go back into the soil and become food for worms.
@romero522
@romero522 10 месяцев назад
Jews indeed have Indigenous costumes that specifically related to the land of Israel: just one example of it is the 3 Pilgrimage holidays, that were known as Agricultural Holidays in their Origins and essence: all three are shared with the Samaritans as well. 1. Passover: literally the celebration of the Exodus from Egypt and coming to the land of Israel 2. Sukkot - also known as the Harvest Festival. celebrates the camping of the Israelites in Tabernacles as they travelled from Egypt towards the Land of Israel. - . also, it is a commandment to take "the four species": A. etrog - the fruit of a citron tree B. Lulav - a ripe, green, closed frond from a date palm tree C. Hadas - boughs with leaves from the myrtle tree D. Arava - branches with leaves from the willow tree Jews also hang the Seven species the land of Israel was blessed with in the Tabernacle itself: A. Wheat B. Barely C. Grapes D. Figs E. Pomegranate F. Olives G. Dates all species that the jews celebrated as blessed in the land of Israel. and took their first fruits to the Temple in Jerusalem as offerings . as a thank to God. the prayers include a prayer for rain. (Shemini Atzeret) as expected from agricultural society, especially in the Levant. 3. Shavuot (the feast of Weeks) : also known as ""Festival of Reaping" During the existence of the Temple in Jerusalem, an offering of two loaves of bread from the wheat harvest was made on Shavuot according to the commandment in Lev. 23:17. individuals could bring the Bikkurim (First-fruits) to the Temple in Jerusalem ,also from the seven Species. 4. in addition, you have Tu Bishvat (15th of Shevat) - The Holiday of the Trees of the land if Israel. you also have Tu BiShvat seder in which the fruits and trees of the Land of Israel were given symbolic meaning. Jews eat dry fruits and Almonds, eating ten specific fruits and drinking four cups of wine in a specific order while reciting the appropriate blessings. in short, the Jewish culture itself is definitely native/indigenous to the land. the whole religion/culture can't be separated from the land of Israel (spiritually for sure). Judaism is originally an Agricultural religion specific for the land of Israel. and Hebrew is also an agricultural language, specifically related to the Land. just an example for different words for "Harvest": A. Wheat - קציר חיטה - Kazir B. Barely -also Katzir C. Grapes - בציר ענבים - Batzir D. Figs - אריית תאנים - Aryia E. Pomegranate - no special verb, just the regular קטיף - Katif F. Olives - מסיק זיתים - Masik G. Dates - גדיד תמרים - Gadid so yeah, the Jewish culture is interconnected to this land.
@Lisbonese
@Lisbonese Год назад
Lost in translation. Jews are indigenous to Israel because that’s the origin of the Jewish people, nation, culture, and religion. Jews have a connection to the land as that’s where it all happened.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
Israel is not even 200 years old. Also, the people there today don't fit the description of the people in the Torah, meaning Abrahams seed the Ishmaelites, Israelites, and the Midianites. All three of them are dark skin, woolly to wavy hair people. The people there today are Caucasians, Indo-Europeans. Those people converted to Judaism, but it doesn't mean they are indigenous to the land.
@Lisbonese
@Lisbonese Год назад
@@amonone399 because people don’t mix…..people are exactly the same as their ancestors were. Of course even you look exactly like your ancestors from 2000 years ago. You have no mixture of any kind I assume. Israel is over 2000 years old. The State of Israel was established in 1948 in the Land of Israel, the indigenous native homeland of the Jewish people. Saying that the Israel of today has nothing to do with the Israel of the past doesn’t change the fact that it is a continuation. Denying Jews their right doesn’t mean anyone else has more rights.
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@Lisbonese The new state of Israeli are Caucasians, not the original Israelites who are dark skin African looking people. How can you claim to be indigenous, that nuts. That alchemy not working on me. This state of foreign people is not 100 years old, lol.
@Lisbonese
@Lisbonese Год назад
@@amonone399 African? Jews were never African. Do you see the Arabs? Jews and Arabs are the same. Arabs come also in different shades. I will not continue to discuss what I know to be true. I have encountered people with your believe in NYC, they call themselves “Hebrew Israelites” which claim to be the original Jews. People believe whatever they believe, it doesn’t make it true. No matter what I say your opinions won’t change so I am done wasting my precious time. No matter what people are, this is the reality of the world and instead of spreading hate, you should spread respect and acceptance. You are no better than anyone else. We are ONE HUMAN FAMILY! The end!
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@Lisbonese I did not say they are, I said the ancient Israelites LOOKED like Africans. It is about the truth and not lying, what is agreeable and what is disagreeable. So you think it is okay to usurp people off of land claiming to be something you are not now that's hateful. People can be-lie-eve in anything, facts, and confirmation is what you all need to get into. I don't follow any religions, I don't need it.
@1AnimeWorld
@1AnimeWorld Год назад
This Yemeni guy looks very Yemeni 😂
@avivlohit
@avivlohit Год назад
Jewish from JUDEA
@Shani.m.
@Shani.m. Год назад
Oh they don’t even understand your question!!!!! What is this?! Very disappointed, you need a translator.
@yoavhi94
@yoavhi94 Год назад
fantastic question! I actually wish I met those guys because it's such an interesting topic that can be looked at from a number of different aspects. One of the subjects that wasn't addressed by anybody in the video are the differences between the cultures and religions. I'm not an expert but in my understanding native-americans have a more polytheistic belief systems that are more connected and dependent on land and nature. Judaism on the other hand is a monotheistic religion that is less dependent on the land and can be practiced anywhere. Of course judaism has rules and beliefs that are connected with land and nature, some can be traced to the polytheistic cultures and religions from the levant that were the precursors of judaism. I believe that this differences stems from geographical and political reasons. The levant was always a meeting place for different cultures and religions. It was a sort of gate between east and west and was conquered many times by empires from both sides of the world, each empire comes with its own pantheon of gods and rules. Its no wonder that the levant is the area from which monotheism originated, a religious method that is more durable to political, cultural and geographical changes.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Год назад
Actually many Native American tribes believed in the Great Spirit, they believed in one powerful creator god.
@avi3860
@avi3860 Год назад
I wish that they had interviewed me, or those who do know the answer. Those who have studied the history, biblical and modern.
@yoavhi94
@yoavhi94 Год назад
@@shainazion4073 Thats true, but I don't think it is exactly similar to the belief in the abrahmic god. Of course it has similaritis but the differences are significant. From a brief Wikipedia browsing of 'Native American Religion' : '"Theology may be monotheistic, polytheistic, henotheistic, animistic, shamanistic, pantheistic or any combination thereof, among others." Of course there's no one native-american religion and it differs from tribe to tribe, but I don't think that even one of them would be described as solely monotheistic, unlike judaism.
@nonono275
@nonono275 Год назад
The majority of the mitzvot mentioned in the Torah can ONLY be done in the Land of Israel. Judaism can be practiced anywhere out of NECESSITY, but that does not constitute the full expression of the 'religion'.
@stlouisix3
@stlouisix3 Год назад
@@nonono275ay, mate; because Christianity is God's true religion☦✝☦
@rogerlephoque3661
@rogerlephoque3661 Год назад
This is an interesting vlog, perhaps the most important in Corey Gil-Shuster's entire series of encounters on the streets of Israel. However, Mr Gil-Shuster should enlighten us with further and better particulars of his guest interviewers, the gentleman and gentlelady, who bring into the mix existential perspectives that will encourage Jews in the diaspora to think - perhaps, rethink - what it is that connects them as "indigenous|" to Eretz Israel vis-a-vis the modern State of Israel. And then, of course, we have the same real estate conflated with what is still a proto-state in the making (however that may emerge, if at all) and its Palestinian denizens
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
Modern Israel has nothing to do with the ancient mythological kingdom of Israel at all.
@rogerlephoque3661
@rogerlephoque3661 Год назад
@@amonone399 Mythological? Check out the results of archaeological digs and the contemporary writings of Tacitus and Josephus, and thereby debunk yourself...
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@rogerlephoque3661 Who cares what some Romans have to say. Read the Torah story about Moses .
@amonone399
@amonone399 Год назад
@@rogerlephoque3661 Abraham is not confirmed, and he is the main character in the Torah stories. The reason for this is Judaism is built on fragments of Egyptian mysteries stolen to suite the needs of men, not a god.
@rogerlephoque3661
@rogerlephoque3661 Год назад
@@amonone399 To paraphrase Abba Eban, you never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity...
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