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Istanbul Başakşehir: The World's Most Hated Champions 

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Turkey's Big Three of Besiktas, Fenerbahce, and Galatasaray have long reigned supreme in the Turkish Super Lig, winning 55 of a possible 62 league titles.
All three clubs hail football mad city of Istanbul, but now there is a third team from Turkey's largest city that are making a splash.
Istanbul Basaksehir have been immensely competitive since being taken into state ownership in 2014, and this season the club won their first Super Lig title.
In this short documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look at Istanbul Basaksehir, a club with a number of former Premier League stars in their ranks, virtually no fans, and close ties to Turkey's higher-ups that has raised suspicion among many rival clubs.

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@fizzzzaa1
@fizzzzaa1 4 года назад
Saw this team play at home with a few friends while backpacking in Turkey in 2017. The stadium was mostly empty except for the rowdy Besiktas fans who filled the entire away section, and who made the most noise as you can imagine. The only home supporters seemed to be a few casual fans who appeared to be from the nearby housing complexes. The only time I heard noise from Basaksehir section was when a few of the Besiktas supporters took off their kits to pose as the home fans just to get nice and close to the keeper to abuse him 😂😂
@alifuatfirat8971
@alifuatfirat8971 4 года назад
INONU HELL 🦅🦅🦅❤⚫⚪
@Neuer2777
@Neuer2777 4 года назад
They're not fans, they're legends
@alifuatfirat8971
@alifuatfirat8971 4 года назад
@@Neuer2777 you know what, thats literally true
@pjishomo
@pjishomo 4 года назад
Did you have a good time backpacking in Turkey ? I always want go there.
@ibz2sho976
@ibz2sho976 3 года назад
Besiktas is the best fans in turkey 🦅🦅🦅
@egekaval7563
@egekaval7563 4 года назад
As a Turk I just want to say thank you for making this video. So many points brought up on the topic so well researched and even delved into the politics in such a way for just a football video. Some points were missed out but they don't have to be said but just gotta put them here 1.The match played by the people shown on 7:26 was actually huge because show this photo to any Turkish citizen and they would be able to name at least 10 of the players. I'm not just gonna list everyone one by one but the man crouching at the front 3rd from the right is Acun Ilıcalı, basically the most well known entertainer of Turkey. To make it a bit clearer he owns a TV station called TV8 and brought all the well known competition shows (The Voice, Survivor, Masterchef etc.) to Turkey. Thanks to this he owns possibly the most watched channel in Turkish television. You might say "What's wrong with him bringing all that stuff and earning money off it?" and I would say absolutely nothing except if the channels news didn't post fake news in order to promote Erdogan. This is just one of the people on the team and the rest are almost just as influential in Turkey. 2. Erdogan playing for Kasımpaşa was mentioned but him trying to back the team financially just as the same way as Başakşehir wasn't mentioned. As he was born and raised in that district he had a bond with the team and the area so presumably payed for the construction of a new stadium for them a few years ago, which is now named after him. Kasımpaşa was a dangerous team and still is doing decent in the league but a few years back they were formidable opponents. Even though they didn't manage to finish on the top levels of the league the amount of referee decisions in their favor was just disgusting. After Erdogan realised that Kasımpaşa's potential wasn't good enough he turned to Başakşehir because the plan is to sell the club for an immense amount of money to Qatarian investors. 3. 2800ish average attendance for them is also somewhat a lie because some people who watch the matches aren't even fans. Of course you can just go to a stadium pay for a ticket and watch a football match as just a fan of the sport but most of the people attending were there for a completely different reason: money. That's right some people who attended matches gave interviews and said that they were PAID to watch the game in the stadium. Many people have also come clean about being offered money to watch the games so that the club seems like they at least have somewhat of a fanbase but in reality this team truly doesn't have ANY loyal fans whatsoever. P.S. This is probably going to be the weirdest compliment I've ever given but this video will probably be banned in Turkey in a very short period of time. So well researched and so nicely summed up thank you for this video HITC.
@HITCSevens
@HITCSevens 4 года назад
Thanks for the additional info and kind words, Ege, glad you enjoyed it!
@peace606
@peace606 4 года назад
@@HITCSevens pint that comment from ege
@axilya427
@axilya427 4 года назад
Bu kadar ingilizceyi translate ile mi yaptın
@peacemaker2988
@peacemaker2988 4 года назад
@@axilya427 oglum bu ingilizceyi translate ile yapamaz adam ya ingilterede ya amerika canada veya australiada yasiyodur.cunku mukemmel bende australiada yasiyorum cok iyi ingilizcesi.
@erencavdar
@erencavdar 4 года назад
@@peacemaker2988 eger iyi okullarda okuduysa ogreniliyo bu ingikizce ozel okullar veya yuksek puanla alan devlet okulalri da bu seviyede egitim verebiliyor
@andrewhardwick3128
@andrewhardwick3128 4 года назад
Still got knocked out of the Europa League by Burnley 2 years ago XD
@12345Yeah
@12345Yeah 4 года назад
That's cos they didn't put any effort into that competition. They were criticized for this that's how I know.
@bilbobagginsjr1843
@bilbobagginsjr1843 4 года назад
don't be a sheep in a mask that’s true
@gmrt743
@gmrt743 4 года назад
Come on Burnley! Come on Burnley! Come on Burnley!
@alvarocosta9809
@alvarocosta9809 4 года назад
Did forget that burnley is playing in a European tournament sorry. Didnt know That they are playing Next week and are Safe to say in the Likes of basaksehir😙
@EposVideo.
@EposVideo. 4 года назад
Look at them now. Finished first in the group with Roma & Mönchengladbach. Rekt sporting lisabon in the last 32. Going to play in the UCL And they have a chance to win the UEL because of the 1 legg rounds this year. I only can see them grow. 👍🏼
@10uge
@10uge 4 года назад
Here's a funny thing; when Başakşehir bought Clichy, prices for bus passes have gone up lol
@lewisf2002
@lewisf2002 4 года назад
That’s crazy
@aliar.
@aliar. 4 года назад
Lewis F Here is turkey for ya THE govement are dictated by frauds
@OneCash
@OneCash 4 года назад
biggest lie I've ever heard. now the city is under opposition control, why are bus prices still climbing? fucking liar
@hakkaydin7758
@hakkaydin7758 4 года назад
this is the biggest lie ive heard in my life. Dont mislead people
@artun984
@artun984 4 года назад
woulda been nice bro in our mayoral systme there is city councils the mayor is from opposition party but akp (ruling party) hast the majority of the council so if akp wants something its accepted if not its declined there is nothing the mayor can do so still istanbuls money and people’s money go to that club who has 800 fans
@Dave-gm7vi
@Dave-gm7vi 4 года назад
I didn't know how much I wanted to know this until I watched it
@nqqma70
@nqqma70 4 года назад
Turkey has Basaksehir. Bulgaria has Ludogorec.
@albzz1415
@albzz1415 4 года назад
David Lim and Italy has juventus
@lookatmyprofilepicture2796
@lookatmyprofilepicture2796 4 года назад
@DOOT olympiakos is in top for 90 years now and has the most fans across greece wtf
@ErkanZH
@ErkanZH 4 года назад
If they would have a big fanbase i wouldnt care but they have a few fans like 100-200
@lookatmyprofilepicture2796
@lookatmyprofilepicture2796 4 года назад
@DOOT i mean how can a team who has 40% of the fans be the most hated?
@lokumftw2621
@lokumftw2621 4 года назад
Boyko is a mini Erdogan anyway... but he is a loyal clown to the baureocrats in Brussels so nobody calls him a dictator or autocrat.
@alisahin2790
@alisahin2790 3 года назад
Update February 2021: as things stand Basaksehir are currently in the relegation zone.
@bodoor8172
@bodoor8172 2 года назад
Back in the top right now, playing good football, not a fan of this club, I am a passionate Fenerbahce fan, but at the moment Basak plays better football than the traditional big three clubs, including Trabzonspor. Have to be honest about this.
@fxtymz1123
@fxtymz1123 2 месяца назад
Update July 2024: their playing in European competition
@nic8597
@nic8597 4 года назад
Please make a video talking about Bilbao's basque policy. Edit: yeah, think the topic has been covered quite a bit, like both babyluigi95's recommendation on covering Guadalajara "Mexican-only" policy and Alejo Ferran's idea on covering how Real Sociedad also had an all-Basque era in the past. If Alfie sees this, please take note of their suggestion, think would make for a more interesting video.
@harshvaid7622
@harshvaid7622 4 года назад
Watch the one made by Tifo
@frxg5637
@frxg5637 4 года назад
Tifos is a good one
@Luigiman_95
@Luigiman_95 4 года назад
Tifo made it. Perhaps about Guadalajara "only Mexican" policy. Also make fun of how Americans were treated by Chivas USA.
@Ese96Agoaye
@Ese96Agoaye 4 года назад
babyluigi95 What happened to that former MLS club?
@andrsmaldo
@andrsmaldo 4 года назад
@@Ese96Agoaye the MLS bought it and then sold it to the current owners of LAFC, but it's not considered the same club
@billytheburg
@billytheburg 4 года назад
The pandemic didn’t help either, cuz they kept playing in a full stadium for the rest of the season unlike the rest of the league :(
@chinmayneelkod931
@chinmayneelkod931 4 года назад
Won't be surprised if mesut ozil joins... And he is running around pitch like n'golo kante cause if he ain't he'll be kicked by turkey's president
@CookieGal-
@CookieGal- 4 года назад
At least there won't be any fans to hate on him
@tannermurphy7279
@tannermurphy7279 4 года назад
If Özil was to go to Turkey, he’d most likely go to Fenerbahçe
@tannermurphy7279
@tannermurphy7279 4 года назад
KZY He’s been “linked” to a move there if he does end up going but like you said, I doubt he’d go. Not sure if it’s true, but I’d heard it’s also his favorite club there in Turkey
@seadkolasinac7220
@seadkolasinac7220 4 года назад
Unwanted Trashbag the fans loved him like CRAZY for years and how did he repay them? By giving up and repeatedly refusing to play
@seadkolasinac7220
@seadkolasinac7220 4 года назад
KZY only playing for money and not giving a shit about all the fans that love you isn’t the definition of a nice guy. It’s selfishness
@devletbahcelino1fan463
@devletbahcelino1fan463 4 года назад
Well, it was inevitable, and now that you've dipped your toes into the legitimately neverending rabbithole that is Turkish football I am fully expecting a video on every wild twist and turn in the league's history, including but not limited to that major matchfixing scandal that took place 10 years ago that involved a clandestine underground organization that aims to overthrow the republic, proof for whose existence is rather dubious
@jonpool9030
@jonpool9030 4 года назад
Interesting take but well thought out
@daghankabas7605
@daghankabas7605 4 года назад
ne güzel be ingilizcen nereden nasıl öğrendin
@devletbahcelino1fan463
@devletbahcelino1fan463 4 года назад
@@daghankabas7605 abi kendi imkanlarımla çok küçüklüğümden beri öğrenmeye çalışıyodum, çok fazla ingilizce medya tükettim işte kitap olsun film olsun, yabancı bi sürü arkadaşım oldu, kendi kendiliğine gelişti o şekilde
@caglargenc4999
@caglargenc4999 4 года назад
such a great video. even as a Turk living in Istanbul I'm not sure if I could have been able to explain the situation as well as you did. thank you so much for shedding light on a topic that seems to be ignored outside of turkey
@Emekdeniz
@Emekdeniz 4 года назад
I’m from turkey a really hreat detailed video on everything that make Başakşehir the champions great video. If you are going to make any other video on the super lig ı can help you if you need any
@bkc6873
@bkc6873 4 года назад
Emek deniz 1903 aynen
@jameshayes2512
@jameshayes2512 4 года назад
Who do you support mate
@Emekdeniz
@Emekdeniz 4 года назад
James Hayes not erdogan
@GiganotosaurusGaming
@GiganotosaurusGaming 4 года назад
James Hayes Takım tutmuyorum
@erencavdar
@erencavdar 4 года назад
@@jameshayes2512 in turkey 80 percent of people support big three even they didnt live in istabul and the big three is become big three like that but now the supports the fans doesnt make difference which team has more money they are being champion we saw this on france england and finally turkey maybe you dont care super league but this is very bad millions of people supporting the same team but team has no supporters coming champion because of money because of politics because of power this is such a bad thing and we cant do anything
@murat7176
@murat7176 4 года назад
An important fact is that they pay their players a lot of money, but they dont have any fans and their stadium is 95% empthy, so i dont understand where the money is from
@bri1085
@bri1085 4 года назад
Erdogan's personal bank account.
@atakandota
@atakandota 4 года назад
@@bri1085 true
@Inc712
@Inc712 4 года назад
its coming from investors
@yousifalnasser3192
@yousifalnasser3192 4 года назад
They are owned by the government
@markusikast3132
@markusikast3132 4 года назад
Murat wtf kind of question is that
@bkc6873
@bkc6873 4 года назад
You’re making fantastic video Alfie. Keep up the great work!
@HITCSevens
@HITCSevens 4 года назад
Cheers, I'll do my best!
@chelsealazer3710
@chelsealazer3710 4 года назад
I feel like RB Leipzig will be the next most hated Champions when they eventually win the Bundesliga in 3-4 years time
@limechewinggum8849
@limechewinggum8849 4 года назад
Yeah, I know people in Germany who don’t think too highly of them already.
@mistercabbage
@mistercabbage 4 года назад
@Feed The P0ny i wouldn't say it is the team, but more so the ownership that people don't like and how the team before that died so RB Leipzig can be born. Personally think they are a fun team to watch but the German league isn't the main one I watch.
@TheEvapiiShow
@TheEvapiiShow 4 года назад
LEIPZIG WILL NEVER WIN THE BuLi
@James_Byron
@James_Byron 4 года назад
I'm pretty sure people will stop being butthurt in a few years, Leipzig will challenge the title for the next years and everyone that hates Bayern supremacy will support them
@TheEvapiiShow
@TheEvapiiShow 4 года назад
@@James_Byron you have no clue about German football.
@aligator7264
@aligator7264 4 года назад
As a turkish fan of you channel I’m always mesmerized by your knowledge about our league and country. Keep up the good work!!
@tunaozates
@tunaozates 4 года назад
90 dislikes all Başakşehir fans in the world
@cmpunk8274
@cmpunk8274 4 года назад
Wait başakşehir have fans
@cmpunk8274
@cmpunk8274 4 года назад
Correct
@stevehansson9765
@stevehansson9765 4 года назад
Hahahaha
@Kuba-ib7bd
@Kuba-ib7bd 4 года назад
@KZY They will, don't worry about it
@aspectcommander7144
@aspectcommander7144 4 года назад
@@Kuba-ib7bd no
@azza0911
@azza0911 4 года назад
As a Manchester United fan who could see us play these in the next round in the Europa League, this was an interesting watch, well done Alfie as always
@sumedhgarimella6024
@sumedhgarimella6024 4 года назад
Same, if we play them I hope we win big lol
@lamourgladygesner4583
@lamourgladygesner4583 4 года назад
I thought Man u was third in the EPL
@noonecares9425
@noonecares9425 4 года назад
@@lamourgladygesner4583 we are talking about this season not next one
@HeavyDave997
@HeavyDave997 4 года назад
Sorry to ruin it, but you for Copenhagen instead
@sumedhgarimella6024
@sumedhgarimella6024 4 года назад
@@HeavyDave997 tbh it was good to see basaksehir lose tho
@erkinylmaz7061
@erkinylmaz7061 4 года назад
Another fun fact: When Arda Turan made his transfer to Basaksehir the price of the breads that people can buy from city hall increased. And another fact that this channel forgot to mention, after başakşehir selled Cengiz Ünder 14 m € to Rome they bought +20 players including adebayor, clichy. And they said that they did all of that with the money that came from Cengiz. (Sorry if i have any grammer mistakes.)
@diogenesofseattle2344
@diogenesofseattle2344 4 года назад
So this is where Özil is going to end up.
@n0body550
@n0body550 4 года назад
Why would he go to turkey?
@diogenesofseattle2344
@diogenesofseattle2344 4 года назад
@@n0body550 he's personal friends with Erdgoan.
@asb4538
@asb4538 4 года назад
Waste Disposal Unit and Erdogan was Özil’s best man at his wedding
@AdarshKumar-nj7rp
@AdarshKumar-nj7rp 4 года назад
Özil will only leave for a big money move. Given his criticism of China, his options only limits to USA or Middle East. But his best Erdogan could pump more taxpayer's money to bring Özil at IB.
@asb4538
@asb4538 4 года назад
Adarsh Kumar apparently he’s been offered the same wages he’s on with big bonuses to join al ittihad in Saudi Arabia and if he joins he will be made royalty in the country
@kwameben6776
@kwameben6776 4 года назад
I didn't know Basaksehir was that despised
@omercanatmaca869
@omercanatmaca869 4 года назад
They were until this season. They were heavily funded by the mayor of İstanbul which was selected by the current ruling party. Last year they lost the election to the opposition party and their selection cut all of the fundings to the başakşehir. They may have gotten a strong support from the start but they always had a great diplomacy to run the club too. This season many people expected them to finish maybe 5th or 6th but definitely not 1st. They had a great campaign and at the end of the season everyone but trabzonspor fans supported them.
@Akkk247
@Akkk247 4 года назад
They're not.. this video is an exaggeration and outright propaganda against a fairly elected president. Shameful.
@gokseldogan2517
@gokseldogan2517 4 года назад
A K aynen kanka fairly elected :D
@omercanatmaca869
@omercanatmaca869 4 года назад
@@Akkk247 ulan HITC napsın İstanbul belediyesini kendisi mi aday olacak da propaganda yapsım
@omercanatmaca869
@omercanatmaca869 4 года назад
@@gokseldogan2517 rte ye mi sallıyor video da tam izlemedim
@caralhoguy
@caralhoguy 4 года назад
Background music is "DEEP TURKISH SAZ RAP INSTRUMENTAL TOPRAK"
@CraigMcLellen1
@CraigMcLellen1 3 года назад
Who’s here after they beat Man U
@nikolamilosevski6424
@nikolamilosevski6424 4 года назад
Buh-shuk-shæ-here for all the anglo-saxon world
@talhaince0000
@talhaince0000 4 года назад
As a Turkish person I love the way you say the names. I would also like to say that these are not just rumors and are true.
@yunusemrealtug2097
@yunusemrealtug2097 4 года назад
In 2003 erdogan became prime minister not in 1998.
@Akkk247
@Akkk247 4 года назад
The video creator has no idea what he is talking about
@easy5989
@easy5989 4 года назад
@@user-ie6jr4bg1w wtf?
@yungcartiyungcarti7852
@yungcartiyungcarti7852 4 года назад
@@user-ie6jr4bg1w wait... 😂😂😂😂
@UitdenOosterhout
@UitdenOosterhout 4 года назад
Erdogan doesn’t take Turkey seriously!
@easy5989
@easy5989 4 года назад
@#N17COYS angelo i heard most people in istanbul want erdogan back there they dont like imamoglu but idk if its true
@watchnocatch171
@watchnocatch171 4 года назад
And Erdoğan was Özil's marriage witness. I guess that tells you something about Özil... If you support/ are close with such a person, how are you supposed to stand for German values? He got what he deserved (except the supposedly racism of course).
@shesho6666
@shesho6666 4 года назад
Such a person? Why? Because he won’t bow down to the European elites? Germany should be forever grateful for Ozil for what he did for them in the 2014 years World Cup
@watchnocatch171
@watchnocatch171 4 года назад
@@shesho6666 Özil was nowhere near being the most important of our players. It is obvious now that he just played for Germany for personal gains, since you can't win anything with Turkey. Özil was really great from ~ 2010-2013 and that's it. He wasn't even German citizen until he turned 18, although he was born in Germany. In my opinion that shows how his family is standing to Germany in general. They didn't even speak German at home in Germany! I guess you watched the video. Such a person who interferes in matters no president should have business with.
@aomiles2554
@aomiles2554 3 года назад
@@watchnocatch171 No1 cares
@dosto_viski8292
@dosto_viski8292 4 года назад
Dont cry Basakcity played well, respect from Beşiktaş fan
@jormun
@jormun 3 года назад
Update: After AKP has lost Istanbul mayoral elections, in 2020-21 season Başakşehir finished the league in 12th place, just 8 points away from relegation. :)
@ChicagoMade905
@ChicagoMade905 4 года назад
Doesnt matter how government support başakşehir, they play very well for a 4-5 years. I am big fan of Beşiktaş but i got a sympathie to them. They deserved to be a champion.
@MellorDR
@MellorDR 4 года назад
You see the same fans in the stadium each time
@frotator8886
@frotator8886 4 года назад
Fantastic video everything here is really well researched!
@moviesjean23
@moviesjean23 3 года назад
I remember when when Turkish team were predominantly Turkish players Clubs were very passionate now it is a bit dull
@yungtt4531
@yungtt4531 4 года назад
Erdorgan need to sign his homeboy Ozil☹️
@_______2107
@_______2107 4 года назад
These are by far your best videos, I absolutely love them
@nothasan1
@nothasan1 4 года назад
16:21 "Dictator" is the right word my friend
@u.a5351
@u.a5351 4 года назад
Roda Koker you can’t be a dictator if you win elections
@MrGEORGETHOMPS
@MrGEORGETHOMPS 4 года назад
Wealdstone shagger you can
@garshonbs8848
@garshonbs8848 4 года назад
@@u.a5351 Yes, if he "rig" the elections, he can
@u.a5351
@u.a5351 4 года назад
Georgey Thompson how can you be a dictator when you win elections, how can you be a dictator when opposition parties Unite with you to stop military dictatorship. The whole reason erdorgan got elected in 2003 was to stop the secular facism that was going on since the creation of turkey and especially in the 90s and he was the answer as he was seen as a moderate. I’m not saying he’s the perfect leader he maybe far from it. But I feel that in turkey he is still the most popular leader in the end. Yes there are times when his popularity decreases but that’s the nature of politics. Elections results speak for themselves and opinion polls speak for themselves. Unless you have proof that he has rigged the elections I can’t really say he is a dictator
@mistercabbage
@mistercabbage 4 года назад
@@u.a5351 you ever seen the movie, "the Dictator" starring Sasha Baren Kohen (The Borat guy)? The ending shows ya how to be honest.
@shrimpfriedizzy
@shrimpfriedizzy 4 года назад
I could listen to you talk about issues in football for ages, you come across as so knowledgeable
@nickallwood3462
@nickallwood3462 4 года назад
Are you on drugs or something? He knows even less about footbal than he does Turkish politics...
@MrDagi77
@MrDagi77 4 года назад
As a someone who watch turkish league and cup games a lot i need to say that turkish league became what italian seria a was in 2005,bunch of games that goes 0-1 at half time.and end 3-1 (fixed games) and some really bad refeere decision ,
@James_Byron
@James_Byron 4 года назад
That's basically every league, some are just better at hiding it
@vladimiroparlato6001
@vladimiroparlato6001 4 года назад
With the little difference that Italian football was able to produce a World Cup win in 2006...
@patrickracer43
@patrickracer43 3 года назад
Bruh, the 0-16 Detroit Lions probably drew more people to Ford Field in Detroit than this *TITLE WINNING* club
@ammadeopierrep1e787
@ammadeopierrep1e787 3 года назад
now they probably get relegated
@tarkatan971
@tarkatan971 3 года назад
They avoided it bc refs were on their side
@dabbereis9565
@dabbereis9565 4 года назад
I am Turkish and my favorite team is Fenerbahçe but In Europe Leagues I like every Turkish Clubs
@Montfortracing
@Montfortracing 4 года назад
Are all Turkish people ok with only 3 teams (now 4) winning Turkish league titles every year? Doesn't seem like there's much competition in the Turkish SuperLig, right?
@dabbereis9565
@dabbereis9565 4 года назад
@@Montfortracing First, in Turkish league history 6 team won SL(Super Lig) But Bursaspor has relegated SL in 2018-2019 season. In Last season Dg Sivasspor has 4. Team in SL. So sometimes Anadolu teams have getting succes
@adrianstere
@adrianstere Год назад
@@Montfortracing Better to be with 3-4 teams than with a team with 500 supporters.
@TecDax
@TecDax 4 года назад
I see similarities to Dynamo Berlin.
@denizbiliciler6431
@denizbiliciler6431 4 года назад
As a turkish citizen who supports antalyaspor I thank you for your effort and explaning the situation with a nonbiased stance.
@ErenGamingOfficialChannel
@ErenGamingOfficialChannel 4 года назад
I’m glad you made this video, it really brings out of the truth of why turkey can’t be a powerhouse in football
@guydutoit61
@guydutoit61 4 года назад
It’s bad enough that we have Turkish fans saying “Join Beskitas/Galatasary” on every post, now we have instanbul Baskashir as well - fuck.
@MiguelLopez-zn1wo
@MiguelLopez-zn1wo 4 года назад
Another class video Alfie 👏. Love these type of videos
@demirdikici5309
@demirdikici5309 4 года назад
As a turkish person thank you for making a video lile this please make more 😁👍🏼
@cfc1905_
@cfc1905_ 4 года назад
About Turkish football, please make a video about the Souness flag incident and the other incidents that happened after that. For example, Fenerbahce superfan “Rambo” slept in the advertising boards of the Galatasaray stadium only to run onto the pitch, clutching a knife.
@Silahtar
@Silahtar 4 года назад
@Jake Awake fuck no
@forechunkukee
@forechunkukee 4 года назад
Excellent research and reporting as always! Here's hoping for 500k then 1m followers, cause youd deserve it!
@BabsW
@BabsW 3 года назад
How/why did FIFA allow this to happen?
@thejamesonthestreet
@thejamesonthestreet 3 года назад
FIFA is a corrupt institution in the first place
@adrianstere
@adrianstere Год назад
@@thejamesonthestreet THIEFA and UEFA = MAFIA are just as corrupt as corruption itself! The more corrupt you are the more they will like you! Its full of fake teams in Europe right now. City PSG, Ludogorets (Bulgaria) CFR Cluj (Romania) teams with 0 history and no real fanbase.
@squidward6317
@squidward6317 4 года назад
Please make a video about west ham and the constant disasters from the owners
@blacksheep838
@blacksheep838 4 года назад
Ur channel is so good literally one of my favourite football channels, I don’t understand why u don’t have more subscribers, to me u should have more subs than the Irish guy
@simplesimonhadapie
@simplesimonhadapie 4 года назад
This is a fantastic video and some of the things you have been covering involving politics and football are much appreciated as something's are not covered very well. I would be interested in your take over guardiola and his brother the owners at city and girona
@robertdeniro19
@robertdeniro19 4 года назад
We need one more club in Istanbul...RB Istanbul
@patrickscottwalsh
@patrickscottwalsh 4 года назад
Its funny you have to warn people about politics. your videos showing the inextricable link between football and politics are my favorites.
@ChristianDoretti
@ChristianDoretti 4 года назад
It's inevitable, Politics are too mixed with everything right now, with every sport, if you don't like it then just don't watch.
@Vict0r1984
@Vict0r1984 4 года назад
@@ChristianDoretti people who are complaining about "politicisation" are generally the most toxic and ignorant ones. Everything can be political and this is not new at all - even great traditional clubs like Real Madrid and AS Roma were founded/heavily supported by fascist dictators... (Franco and Mussolini respectively)
@ChristianDoretti
@ChristianDoretti 4 года назад
@@Vict0r1984 It's not ignorance, their argument is simple; Sports is an escapism to reality.
@Vict0r1984
@Vict0r1984 4 года назад
@@ChristianDoretti but it's not and never was. Sure you can use it as escapism from reality very well, but pretending clubs, the corporations, businessmen and governments that finance them, their symbolism or common attitudes among their fan bases (like, say, Dynamo Kiev fans being often racist to foreign Shakhtar Donetsk players) are not inextricably linked with politics is naive, and telling other people to shut up about it because you don't like admitting it is authoritarian/ignorant. These people have all the rights in the world to pretend sports aren't political, but when they try to censor others from talking about it they are toxic. Everything you or I do can be interpreted politically - your fashion, (sweat-shop manufactured/not, which brands etc) eating choices, (vegan, non-GMO etc) and many other things we do which are actually less political than professional football and we might do unconsciously or without even thinking of making a political statement can be interpreted so by others, and that's fine! We all have a somewhat unique worldview and that's never stopped us as a species from coexisting and having dialogue about our views and politics with one another...
@ChristianDoretti
@ChristianDoretti 4 года назад
@@Vict0r1984 Of course it was, in the 2000 decade, there was not political message being imposed by the federations, the problems in football were merely inside it's world. Also, you confuse politics with racism, which makes no sense because when ultras are racist they don't do it for political reasons, they do it to annoy the rivals which always end up being effective. You can be racist against a white player and he wouldn't bother, why should other people fall in those psychological traps?, Dynamo Kiev doesn't represents football, these Ex-communist European countries are a different kind of situation, they are pretty backwards when it comes to political correctness which is also not needed in a sport were your function is to play and the fans' function is to support. I don't know why tf you mention authoritarianism when this has nothing to do with football, the same with veganism lol. Also, the issues of political corruption don't only happen in clubs but in the Fifa federation itself since they choose where The World Cups are going to be based on the amount of money paid. Politics as no place in football, that's why you didn't see Cristiano or Messi talking about it, their job is to play, not to get into the dirty world of politics. This doesn't mean that all kind of politics is bad, anti-discrimination and pro-health are actually two good things that should be promoted in football because they are problems that affect the football community very much more directly.
@rajkaranvirk7525
@rajkaranvirk7525 3 года назад
Imagine being a Istanbul resident and basically paying for your rivals😂😂😂
@adrianstere
@adrianstere Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@onuryuksel3077
@onuryuksel3077 4 года назад
As a Turkish person, a Beşiktaş fan, and an Erdoğan hater, I was happy to see Başakşehir winning the league because the 3 big clubs of Istanbul are ran very poorly, all three are in huge debt and their boards keep making terrible decisions and terrible signings. I hope this season becomes a wake up call for the big three
@reintaler6355
@reintaler6355 4 года назад
It's sad that it has to come down to THIS in order to force the big 3 to make changes and improve
@Itz_HFA
@Itz_HFA 4 года назад
Don't be an Erdogan hater. He is the next Caliph insha allah
@jjohnjJP
@jjohnjJP 4 года назад
I remember when the big 3, had an impact in Europe, even the national side were decent but not anymore
@bf3655
@bf3655 4 года назад
ali mali just a question who would be the biggest club out of the big 3-no bias
@onuryuksel3077
@onuryuksel3077 4 года назад
@@bf3655 Trabzonspor obviously
@snebekkyent9074
@snebekkyent9074 4 года назад
Yabancıların büyük ilgisi beni oldukça şaşırttı. Türk futboluyla bu denli ilgilenmeleri ilginç.
@jacobbyrd2055
@jacobbyrd2055 4 года назад
Lad you need to get into documentaries. You’ve definitely got the knowledge, research skills and voice for it
@binkywinky9590
@binkywinky9590 4 года назад
Should double check his information though, he sometimes adds incorrect information.
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 4 года назад
7:55 mhhm yeah makes sense, i didn't knew that but i lived there for a while bc i had family there. very developed and clean place, even for Istanbuls high standards.
@berryesseen
@berryesseen 4 года назад
The most ridiculous thing is that I think even the family and friends of Basaksehir players don't support them. Normally, you would expect the players to win trophies for the fans and supporters, but in this case, they are playing only for the bonuses and the government support. People in Turkey just consider that there is no winner of 2019-20 season.
@HeavyDave997
@HeavyDave997 4 года назад
I was already happy with FC Copenhagen knocking them out in EL, watching this video just makes it even more sweet. I was so shocked watching the game, we absolutely humiliated them. I couldn't stop thinking about how this was the champions of Turkey, but it kinda makes sense now
@Metalton95
@Metalton95 4 года назад
To be fair, they were rather underwhelming in the first game too. So weird, how we perform the best one night stands in Europe (Celtic & Basakshekir), but sucked in the league since Wind & N'doye got injured.
@HeavyDave997
@HeavyDave997 4 года назад
@@Metalton95 the game today just showed how much er needed Wind and N'doyle back in the team, but it still ended with a 2nd place finish and historical EL run. In my book that is acceptable results.
@Metalton95
@Metalton95 4 года назад
@@HeavyDave997 Same. Considering the circumstances, it's been rather phenomenal. Our main strikers were taken out with LONG injuries, and we still managed to stay in the EL, got a 2nd place finish and even reached the quater final in EL now. The Ståle haters can fuck off, they forgot how much we scored before their injuries :)
@HeavyDave997
@HeavyDave997 4 года назад
@@Metalton95 Ståle will always have my support he always proved med wrong when i had my doubts, at first i thought that Pep Biel and Varela was a waste og money. But i gotta be honest, they really are starting to some good quality football. Success is temporary, loyalty is forever
@kevinp9403
@kevinp9403 4 года назад
Most underrated football academies that produced world class players
@frankarsln2123
@frankarsln2123 4 года назад
Good video man, well researched thank u...
@corinisboring4480
@corinisboring4480 4 года назад
Love how the Triforce is part of their badge
@paarsgordijn177
@paarsgordijn177 4 года назад
glad im not the only one who noticed.
@mervecetinkaya3333
@mervecetinkaya3333 4 года назад
As a Turkish woman and Besiktas fan now we are the worst country in Europe . In football in sports in everything and i don’t wanna talk about politics and economic because everyone knows we’re fucked up :(
@Fredthe_II
@Fredthe_II 4 года назад
Bro I have been a fenerbahçe Fan since I was 5 and I am disgusted with all the politics in the süper lig
@dosto_viski8292
@dosto_viski8292 4 года назад
22 aralik 2019 F.ner Beşiktaş maçını izle de öyle utan!
@Fredthe_II
@Fredthe_II 4 года назад
Ne var knk bjk nin golu ofsayt vida kendini yere atiyo ve bizim mudahalelerin cogu topa mudahale
@hugobrugivo3123
@hugobrugivo3123 4 года назад
My team (sporting CP) still managed to lose to them...
@Ronswanson940
@Ronswanson940 4 года назад
Sporting aren't any better so
@onuryldz4592
@onuryldz4592 2 года назад
They are hated, not bad. They also bodied Manchester United once
@nusproizvodjach
@nusproizvodjach 4 года назад
It's a very similar situation in Serbia with president Vučić and Red Star, the only difference is that Red Star have a huge fanbase and are supported by the majority of the people.
@AviLOrkQ
@AviLOrkQ 4 года назад
Still happy for Skrtel though. Once a Red, always a Red. YNWA
@avgaming4093
@avgaming4093 4 года назад
Ahem... plastic.... would you pay to see him win though? Because I know some Turks that wouldn't
@AviLOrkQ
@AviLOrkQ 4 года назад
@@avgaming4093 yes, i'm from Montréal and i would love him to play for the Impact
@fingmoron
@fingmoron 4 года назад
@@avgaming4093 that's the exact opposite of a plastic, supporting former players is the sign of a true fan.
@fingmoron
@fingmoron 4 года назад
@Granddad Fleenstone strangely specific. kinda groovy doe
@adamadp6898
@adamadp6898 4 года назад
Finally you got a mic. I can now watch yoy
@Srinivas-pe8kn
@Srinivas-pe8kn 4 года назад
Great video as always 👌
@Mojovo292
@Mojovo292 4 года назад
The top 3 teams be like: WAIT! THATS ILLEGAL!
@ianlinnarz7624
@ianlinnarz7624 4 года назад
Can there be a video made for when Franco claimed certain clubs are Royalty like Real Madrid, real sociedad, celta Vigo and etc
@pastormaldonado2393
@pastormaldonado2393 4 года назад
The 'Real' part in a team stands for the King of Spain during the baby steps of Spanish Clubs. Clubs like Madrid/Deportivo/Celta/etc had Alfonso XIII (a football maniac) as a honourary president and so the state would give some benefits
@supersasukemaniac
@supersasukemaniac 4 года назад
Remember Real Madrid was also bankrolled by a politician too. Franco.
@idizzzful
@idizzzful 4 года назад
Madrit did not win any title by some years AFTER Franco left ruling Spain.
@VictorMurp
@VictorMurp 4 года назад
It may seem crazy that Istanbul has so many clubs but you also remember they're the largest city in europe. They have 5 million more people than London who have Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Palace and a few other significant clubs.
@jjohnjJP
@jjohnjJP 4 года назад
Not really Who was saying that, I think his point was more, 3 of the actual best Most places like England You have separate Cities at the top of the league but in Turkey, they seem to all come from 1 city
@erentoktams1470
@erentoktams1470 4 года назад
@@jjohnjJP few different cup winners and finalists we had for the past 5 years but as far as the league goes istanbul stands alone. closest ones are always trabzon and they have a reputation of being fucking brainless.
@VictorMurp
@VictorMurp 4 года назад
@@jjohnjJP it's still odd but I just wanted to add some more context.
@Bakazinha
@Bakazinha 4 года назад
The quality if the Turkish league really went down in recent years. I wonder what went wrong for the big three. Even the big clubs need to delay paying wages some times. That's how bad it is
@fieserfactsack9635
@fieserfactsack9635 4 года назад
Its because Turkey went through multiple financial crisis and this was mainly caused by erdogan beeing a dick to everyone alse
@stuartgreer9566
@stuartgreer9566 4 года назад
So they're Real Madrid.
@thesacrisant
@thesacrisant 4 года назад
Istanbul Başakşehir , the 21th century Dynamo Berlin. Without tax money and government support , they also should only be a 4th lvl football club.
@Inc712
@Inc712 4 года назад
alfie plz look into the world of scottish non league. theres a situation where non league teams are outspending league 1 teams due to the messed up system its really interesting
@bri1085
@bri1085 4 года назад
That sounds proper interesting could you give me a rough outline of why that's the case?
@Inc712
@Inc712 4 года назад
​@@bri1085 will do right so. in the scottish lowland leauge if you want to go up you have to finish first. then you must have a home and away playoff versus the team from the highland league (a league at the same level but for clubs at the other end of the country) then if you win that you must play the team bottom of league two home and awa. so what has essentially happened is there is about four or five teams all with massive investment trying to get up which has resulted in players from multiple leagues up being persuaded to join with massive paychecks compaired to what bigger teams can offer. for example kelty hearts have signed nathan austin from invernes who is 27 years old (three leagues up) east kilbride have signed steven old from morcambe eaststirlingshire have signed nicky low and gregg wylde from two and three leagues up. kelty have signed kallum higinbottam who has played in the prem not long ago. bsc glasgow a number 9 from two leagues up and way more its a strange situation. sorry bout the novel but i find it interesting. im a fan of eaststirlingshire this is why i know
@HITCSevens
@HITCSevens 4 года назад
I had no idea about any of this, Joel. Sounds very intriguing though, I'll try to do some research, thanks for the suggestion!
@bri1085
@bri1085 4 года назад
@@Inc712 That sounds crazy, is it essenetially a bunch of non-league clubs trying to be the scottish Leipzig?
@Inc712
@Inc712 4 года назад
@@bri1085 yeah pretty much to put it into perspective last year those clubs won multiple games against the smaller clubs in the league by 8 goals or more there was even a 9-1 and 10-1
@cyberpunkmirai7011
@cyberpunkmirai7011 4 года назад
He said the current Liverpool team but I'm sure he was meant to say Man United who broke the record for penalties and var mistakes that led to goals in a Premier league season...
@mertemeklier9166
@mertemeklier9166 4 года назад
I love what u have covered here as a Turkish fenerbahce fan I would rather have trabzonspor as champions then them
@eko5666
@eko5666 4 года назад
💙💛💙💛
@osmanlitorunu917
@osmanlitorunu917 2 года назад
As a person following turkish football for over 20 years, I must say this video is full of misleading and controversial stuff. Başakşehir game style is super attacking and very entertaining. They have great players on every position, signing Mesut Özil lately is just another proof. Plus their main sponsor is Europe's biggest network of hospitals and private clinics called Medipol based in Başakşehir district of İstanbul. That's why they're very successful in Türkiye lately. The only reason why some knucklehead fans don't like the club is because people of Başakşehir district are showing reasonable support to Erdogan. As former galatasaray fan I know that haters gonna hate, but hey, whatever. Dogs are barking and caravan is going further.
@RP-xg9rr
@RP-xg9rr 4 года назад
Very interesting video mate
@nickallwood3462
@nickallwood3462 4 года назад
Yeah....if you believe in fantasy..
@ainanzahid4481
@ainanzahid4481 4 года назад
they got Barcelona, juventus and dynamo Kiev in the group stages
@timteo97
@timteo97 4 года назад
Im a Beşiktaş fan but i could say i dont hate them and even if they got support from recep tayyip erdoğan couple years ago the footballers in başakşehir are decent and they deserved the Turkish Super League this year .They really have been playing good
@joako_domina
@joako_domina 4 года назад
Video idea: Bayern Münich's 2012/13 Champions League winners XI: Where are they now?
@brunoescobar7757
@brunoescobar7757 4 года назад
Great video. Please make about Tigres of Mexico, the most hated team.
@KartingRules
@KartingRules 4 года назад
the most hated is not América?
@brunoescobar7757
@brunoescobar7757 4 года назад
@@KartingRules it's hated too, but in the last decade Tigres have won many titles and his behavior in and out of the pitch has been awful.
@KartingRules
@KartingRules 4 года назад
@@brunoescobar7757 oof thats shit... here in my country the most hated club are the Current Champion of the League btw
@thedoc225ify
@thedoc225ify 4 года назад
@@brunoescobar7757 Club America are the team of the government
@brunoescobar7757
@brunoescobar7757 4 года назад
@@thedoc225ify not exactly, are the team of a tv broascaster, meanwhile Tigres are a team of a university and form a cement company, but has invested too much money and that makes to the another teams angry, because it has achieved his success with many money.
@xp3r1
@xp3r1 4 года назад
This is how Arsenal and Tottenham feel about Chelsea lol
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 4 года назад
Arsenal has no right saying anything really, look at their standing lol.
@mrplut0
@mrplut0 4 года назад
@@lillexus5589 Based on their rich history and past achievements, I think they have every right so
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 4 года назад
@@mrplut0 the past is the past for a reason, it's not representative for the present.
@mrplut0
@mrplut0 4 года назад
@@lillexus5589 You're missing the point. The reason the original commenter said so is because Chelsea came out of nowhere being a succesful club after Roman Abramovich took over, who was known to splash alot of money on transfer budgets other than Man City owner. Before that, London rivalries has always been centered around Arsenal and Spurs, Chelsea was a nobody. Of course in the present, Chelsea is more succesful than Arsenal, but you can't deny the fact Arsenal was and still a legendary club.
@white_will_smith
@white_will_smith 4 года назад
These documentary's are class, I would pay money to watch them
@messipritiz6078
@messipritiz6078 4 года назад
You wont pay shit bitch
@jeffreyjeffrey1935
@jeffreyjeffrey1935 4 года назад
Why are you lying? You dont even have one buck lil bitch
@MM-go4nj
@MM-go4nj 4 года назад
Such a broke bitch
@tamikahonde5386
@tamikahonde5386 4 года назад
@@MM-go4nj why are you attacking him?
@wolfmauler
@wolfmauler 4 года назад
@@tamikahonde5386 No kidding. What a bunch of idiots coming out with unprovoked abuse. That one moron is writing even worse replies on some other comments. Get a life.
@skyblader
@skyblader 4 года назад
I am a Galatasaray fan. I hate everything this club represents politically. This is the club of the person you know who. They received huge amonts of government help in years. But they have done something alot better than the bigger clubs in years. They were so much professional than the other big clubs. Because they had almost zero fan base they never felt the supporter pressure. If Gala or Fener fais to win the title almost everything (coach, players, board etc) changes next year. They never had to to it. so the result was inevitable in the long run.
@danielcostello7320
@danielcostello7320 4 года назад
Istanbul Basaksehir:The worlds most hated champions Liverpool: “amateurs”
@hyapry193
@hyapry193 4 года назад
like fr everyone here hates them unlike liverpool which atleast have fans while there stadium is 95% empty all the time
@YokesTick
@YokesTick 4 года назад
It’s for reasons like this, a video about a Turkish club and it somehow has to be played down cos Liverpool, if your fans didn’t want to win everything even biggest cunts people wouldn’t think you’re all a load of cunts
@AvrilAlvarez
@AvrilAlvarez 4 года назад
At least Liverpool has fans
@nightmare5594
@nightmare5594 4 года назад
I am a turkish fan and i am a bit sad that you did not include trabzonspor when you said the big teams trabzon was not bad at europe playe in champions and europa leauge and became champions many times even though the club doesn't spend money as much as the other big teams
@dazzaMusic
@dazzaMusic 4 года назад
It reminds me a lot of steaua Bucharesti in the 80s when Nicolae Ceaușescu owned the club
@geraldclydeabella3350
@geraldclydeabella3350 4 года назад
About Dinamo Bucharest
@dazzaMusic
@dazzaMusic 4 года назад
Romania around that time was ruled by dictator Nico Ceausescu and he was involved with the going’s on with most clubs
@adrianstere
@adrianstere Год назад
The difference is that Steaua back then won the UCL against Barcelona, played another UCL final against Milan and won the UEFA Supercup. Same with Dinamo Bucharest playing a UCL semifinal against Liverpool. These teams plaiyed real football. Second thing is that this teams have a huge history and fan base unlike fake teams like this one in the video, City, PSG, Ludogorets or CFR Cluj.
@ipperz12
@ipperz12 4 года назад
Fucking hell, that Jude Bellingham comment killed me!
@NPat-zu5bh
@NPat-zu5bh 4 года назад
He spends time to make a video and top comments are like "do that now". Like, it's not that hard to say a few words first about the video you just saw to encourage the creator and then suggest something.
@ashimkc1419
@ashimkc1419 4 года назад
Ikr,peole don't understand what goes into making this vids
@erikconfirmed1865
@erikconfirmed1865 4 года назад
No wonder Basaksehir is hated by so many people when it's founder is literally named after a Fire Lord
@danhibbard9666
@danhibbard9666 4 года назад
Ranking all the premier league winning captains
@meowstube6899
@meowstube6899 4 года назад
Gerrard
@Metalton95
@Metalton95 4 года назад
@@meowstube6899 "Winning".. :(
@dd-uf9nw
@dd-uf9nw 4 года назад
@@Metalton95 😬😬😬😂
@FahmiFadzil10
@FahmiFadzil10 4 года назад
Its like JDT of malaysia, difference is that JDT is bank rolled by a monarchy
@Resol26
@Resol26 4 года назад
Thanks to PR China investment in properties across JB & Iskandar.
@iWinimobi32828
@iWinimobi32828 4 года назад
Bangsa J
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