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It Costs HOW MUCH? Sako 90 Quest vs Christensen Ridgeline and Weatherby M307 

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Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! Welcome, everyone. I'm back with Chase and some 30-06 rifles for another 30-06 Week presentation. We're going to be talking about high-tech rifles, and rifles you might need to save up for, just a bit.
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 месяца назад
Thanks to our sponsor Maven! Learn more about Maven here - mavenbuilt.com/
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
If You Can't Get a Sako Rifle to Shoot, It's Either the Ammunition or You! 🤭
@salninethousand2496
@salninethousand2496 3 месяца назад
You can pay more, but you'll never get a finer rifle than a Sako.
@Cas65082
@Cas65082 3 месяца назад
I’ve put 3 through the same hole with my Sako 308 at 100 yd
@JamesClark-lw6sw
@JamesClark-lw6sw 3 месяца назад
BS.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 3 месяца назад
So true Ron 🙌
@65Swede
@65Swede 3 месяца назад
@@edwardabrams4972I just watched a new Backfire video where he shot the Hunter Sako and got half MOA and better groups with multiple brands of ammo.
@bjkearns2
@bjkearns2 3 месяца назад
I recently picked up a Model 70 Supergrade in 30-06 It’s a really nice rifle and I’m glad to own it
@michaelsicowitz362
@michaelsicowitz362 3 месяца назад
I hope you got a nice piece of walnut with that baby. I can't see two guys comparing rifles at camp and saying, 'your black plastic is prettier than mine'.
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 3 месяца назад
Good choice..👍🏻
@bjkearns2
@bjkearns2 3 месяца назад
@@michaelsicowitz362 it started life as a Maple Supergrade. I bought it in January in brand new condition with a snapped in half through the wrist maple stock for $400. I called up Winchester and sent it off to them, I requested they swap it to Walnut but call me about the cost to upgrade to the AAA French Walnut…they never called and I got it back with a gorgeous AAA French Walnut stock. That’s the story of my $400 Supergrade
@JD-kz1wg
@JD-kz1wg 3 месяца назад
How does it shoot? I was curious about the Portugal Model 70's.
@Matt01235
@Matt01235 3 месяца назад
@@JD-kz1wg I have a model 70 featherweight in 6.8 western and it shoots lights out. 3/4” groups at 100 shooting Barnes 155 grain LRX. You won’t be disappointed with a new model 70
@lpalerme
@lpalerme 3 месяца назад
Moral of story: High dollar rifles not necessarily more precise.
@mickeydoodle6014
@mickeydoodle6014 3 месяца назад
I absolutely love watching Ron. However, he usually gets less accuracy from rifle. I will see channels like Backfire shoot the same rifles with three times the accuracy.
@michaelsicowitz362
@michaelsicowitz362 3 месяца назад
So true, trigger maybe, but barrels these days, no excuses for less than MOA
@SL-sy8ix
@SL-sy8ix 3 месяца назад
@@mickeydoodle6014 I'll take Ron's knowledge of rifles and hunting over the Backfire guys any day of the week!
@mickeydoodle6014
@mickeydoodle6014 3 месяца назад
@@SL-sy8ixnot saying anything about his knowledge. I have been watching Ron forever. I was simply making the statement that several RU-vidrs have had much better accuracy out of the rifles reviewed. I myself have several of the rifles he has shot and easily out shot his groups. One or maybe two rifles could have been a QC issue. However, there is a trend of both rifles and ammunition. Again, Ron is an incredible writer and revered in most firearm/hunting communities. However, I don’t use his accuracy test to dictate how I purchase my firearms. I will continue to use “data trends” and my own experience when I can.
@skigdividerx4991
@skigdividerx4991 3 месяца назад
@@mickeydoodle6014 Backfire probably gets paid to show great accuracy. Ron doesn't. High dollar factory made rifles are made for the people that have money and think they have to have high dollar stuff. Nothing wrong with that but the cheaper rifles kill way more game.
@vincethewoodlander
@vincethewoodlander 3 месяца назад
Is it wrong I drive 2-3 miles away from my camp/job every night to get reception for these shows? Good stuff.
@allthingsconsidered3211
@allthingsconsidered3211 3 месяца назад
Chase is a class act. I like his personality
@mikepetrilli4686
@mikepetrilli4686 3 месяца назад
My Sako S20 in 3006 is a super accurate rifle. It shoots any ammo I buy sub MOA. In some cases you actually get what you pay for. My second rifle is a Tikka 3tx in 270 that is also super accurate. For my money you can't beat Sako and Tikka.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
You Need a New Garmin Cronograph Ron! 😂
@ottokittel709
@ottokittel709 3 месяца назад
Ron do your self a big favor and buy a Garmin chronograph ! it is a game changer, size of a pack of cigarettes, and very reliable.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
🤠 YES, YES, YES! 🤑👍
@davidmartin7479
@davidmartin7479 3 месяца назад
Definitely need a Garmin chronograph. Highly recommend
@billfisher6708
@billfisher6708 3 месяца назад
Amen!
@RMM--uv7uk
@RMM--uv7uk 3 месяца назад
Every single RU-vidr doing ammo test should be using a Garmin chronograph. If I can afford one then they can as well.
@straxstrax2980
@straxstrax2980 3 месяца назад
Sako make such beautiful hi-quality rifles
@badpossum440
@badpossum440 3 месяца назад
I have seen 3 of these 30/06 videos & all have two rounds together & a flyer. I cannot be the rifles.
@tonyenglish5153
@tonyenglish5153 2 месяца назад
Ill stick with my Sako Finnbear 7mm and Sako TX3 with a Zeiss 6-24 that are incredibly accurate with my reloads.
@leonhart2452
@leonhart2452 3 месяца назад
On the Weatherby,the tight spot you found when checking the free floating, it may be the front sling stud my protrude up above the stock enough to effect accuracy. I had a Remington 788 in 22-250 that had this issue. Itthrew shots all over. Once i shortened the stud so it cleared the barrel it shot very well. Sub 1/2 minute out to 500 yards or so.
@pepepepito623
@pepepepito623 3 месяца назад
1/2'' groups at 500 yards? Wow! That is better than "...1/4" at 200 yards...''
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 месяца назад
⁠@@pepepepito623 nobody said 1/2”groups at 500 yards, half minute was the claim which would be 2.6175 inch at 500 yards. Before leaving comments you may want to make sure your actually reading what was wrote instead of reading what you want them to right so you can act like a know it all.
@FeckArseIndustries
@FeckArseIndustries 23 дня назад
​@@jaydunbar7538 Well said Jay. The devil is in the detail.
@andreasgauckler3152
@andreasgauckler3152 19 дней назад
It's not the rifle but the one who operates it. You are tending to rush the shots from my perspective. Maybe you should talk less and focus on shooting instead. Alternatively you can try to one shot groups ;-)
@salninethousand2496
@salninethousand2496 3 месяца назад
Great series and great interaction! .30-06 is my favorite caliber (and I own many rifles in various calibers including many rifles in .30-06). I own two of three presented rifles in various versions and vintages - modern Sako 85 Bavarian in .30-06 (left hand) and an early '90s Weatherby Mark V Classicmark in 7 mm Rem Mag (left hand) plus various Winchester and Remington bolt action rifles in .30-06. Across all my .30-06 rifles, the Sako is the best overall - best accuracy, best trigger, best fit-n-finish, best ergo (esp. the top loadable removable magazine). The Model 70 has the smoothest action however. All are great rifles though!
@Steve-vx2xp
@Steve-vx2xp 3 месяца назад
I wonder if the scope is a piece of junk
@michaelsicowitz362
@michaelsicowitz362 3 месяца назад
The mounts and rings, upgrade those for starters
@robertfandel9442
@robertfandel9442 3 месяца назад
All the rifles are using high dollar rings.
@michaelsicowitz362
@michaelsicowitz362 3 месяца назад
@@robertfandel9442 You'd be surprised on how with even expensive stuff you can find where companies try to cut costs. I see it way too often, not just in one industry. Thanks
@williamfeldner9356
@williamfeldner9356 3 месяца назад
Just purchased a Sako Hunter in 30-06, Talley Mounts and Nightforce SHV 3-10X. What an awesome rifle shoots various factory loads to 1 moa……. Highest Recommendation!
@BusterBibb
@BusterBibb 3 месяца назад
Well..uh..my old Savage 111 flat top in 30-06 set in a Boyd’s laminate stock and epoxy bedded sporting a Bushnell 3200 Elite 3x10x50mm..EGW HD mounts and rings will hold slightly better than that..cold barrel..everytime everyday. I’ve spent around $1,000 total for this rifle. Just saying without being a smart ace
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 3 месяца назад
@@BusterBibb a smart ace? guess you got two jokers.
@K-bob_45
@K-bob_45 3 месяца назад
Sako makes a great gun by all accounts.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 3 месяца назад
60+ years collecting reloading and hunting and Sako is my favorite to hunt with out of hundreds of guns or the years. Love their older models and have several of their newer models as well and they all shoot great with almost any factory load and with reloads they shoot better then a lot of my custom builds do🙌
@BusterBibb
@BusterBibb 3 месяца назад
Minimal work on Savage rifles to achieve really repeatable accuracy. Sometimes nothing but too with quality mounts/rings snd a decent scope. I do not run complicated scopes as a rule. Big game hunting rifles do not need huge complicated dial in optics. And I’ve taken a lot of game in my life. Just decent proven optics not cheap scopes. I will say yo anyone buying a Savage rifle. When you look at a Savage at a gun shop/dealer…have a quality one piece scope mount. A one piece. And lay that mount in position and check to see is the rifle receiver is straight..not warped. Savage has been known to kick out warped receivers though warpage can be slight. But I got a Savage..once…that was badly warped and I didn’t attempted to mount a scope for a few months to receiver since I was using just the receiver. I had taken off the barrel and installed a specialty barrel and oooops!! I sent the receiver back to Savage but!!! I had taken the barrel off. Savage blamed me of bending the receiver.!!! Live and learn!! Moral to this…no matter what rifle anyone buys..make sure that receiver is not warped. 👍
@Steve-vx2xp
@Steve-vx2xp 3 месяца назад
All my 06s shoot sub mow I have 6
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 месяца назад
Terminal accent is a fantastic white tail choice, it may be more then you need but so is the 06 your shooting it through . Great bullet for an all purpose medium and big game choice, solid shank makes sure it stays together at close range and the lead core tip makes sure it functions at longer distances.
@audieladd2476
@audieladd2476 3 месяца назад
It's possible that if the forend pressure pad is removed from the Weatherby it'll shoot one hole groups because vertical stringing is usually associated with upward forend pressure. Failing that, get a Tikka and it'll shoot 1/4" groups straight out of the box. My T3x Lite Stainless did with cheap Federal Blue Box Ammo.
@treykingiii4537
@treykingiii4537 3 месяца назад
I want to see more of your personal rifles Ron! I grew up shooting a pre 64 model 70 in 270 Winchester. I’ve seen glimpses of your rifles and want to know more about them! Especially the custom rifles. Love the content and sure appreciate what you stand for.
@fabianvaras1273
@fabianvaras1273 2 месяца назад
yes i learn the lesson I got a tikka shoots really well with hornary match 6,5 creedmore shoots 1/4 inch at 100 meters so i did buy 20 boxes of ammo same lot number be done with work for me I have 4 red stag on my living room .
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 3 месяца назад
That weatherby is beautiful, none of the rifles hes tested over the last few days have shot very well... maybe its the scope? Ive never heard of maven scopes but when a $3500 rifle has the same accuracy as a $500 rifle, its either the scope or the shooter IMO.
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 3 месяца назад
Weatherby 307 wood stock in a 06?? YES PLEASE
@brianowen497
@brianowen497 Месяц назад
There is a technique to shooting rifles with some recoil vs light cartridges like a 6.5 Creedmoor. Also, the bench makes a big difference in group size, especially with rifles that recoil harder. This is why good benches are made of concrete or blocks. Your bench is definitely a factor. Most 06s are very accurate when shot with the correct technique.
@stephenpaquet
@stephenpaquet Месяц назад
Yeah, I’m a little surprised. He’s not a member at a really good gun club with solid bench rests. Where he can truly show the best of the rifle. You’re absolutely correct the benches is almost everything to get the most out of a rifle.
@robertfarrow4256
@robertfarrow4256 3 месяца назад
You went all through this and you had not checked the scope mounts to see if they were LOOSE! Thanks a lot...
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 3 месяца назад
The tolerances of the new cartridges are the same as they have been for decades ( diameter tolerance of +0.002" and length of +0.015"). The 30-06 just uses the old "forcing cone" style of chamber in front of the case. It has a funnel starting at .3106" that tapers at 1°22" per side into the rifling with nothing to help align the bullet with the bore other than the neck of the case. The bullet can be at a slight angle as the rifling is engraved, causing a small wobble as it travels down the barrel. The 30-06 CAN be accurate, but can be a bit picky at to which combination of powder, bullet and seating depth works best. The big difference in the newer cartridges, compared to the 30-06, is the "match style chamber" which has a tube of freebore, typically with a tiny clearance to the bullet (often less than a thousandth of an inch) prior the throat's taper through the rifling. This tight freebore tube aligns the bullet better with the bore to reduce wobble. This type of chamber is not new. Weatherby Magnums since the 1940's have the same thing, even with a tighter fit than most new cartridges ( four tenths of a thousandth of an inch clearance).
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 3 месяца назад
@@FranzAntonMesmer These days, there is more than one 6.5x55 chamber, but you are probably asking about the older military one. The older military design often called the 6.5x55 Swedish MAUSER has some cylindrical freebore since it was designed use of a long, 156 grain round-nose bullet. They were loaded with a long section of the full-diameter shank extending out from the front of the case. This is why often you need to load modern bullets well beyond the official COAL to get anywhere near the lands. When cartridges began to be designed around spitzer bullets and their longer ogives, the section of freebore was often shortened or eliminated, as when the 30-03 (220 grain round nose bullet) became the 30-06. This, in fact, was eventually done with the 6.5x55. In the 1980's, as I recall, the European C.I.P. created the "6.5x55 SE" has only a narrow-angle cone and no section of parallel freebore and a higher max chamber pressure. SAAMI adopted this new design in 1993 under the name 6.5x55 Swedish (without the "Mauser"), but kept a lower pressure of 51,000psi using the transducer method. This change causes a lot of confusion, so it is important to know which chamber you have.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 3 месяца назад
@@FranzAntonMesmer Looking into the 7.57 Mauser, it appears that it originally used bullets that had a gently tapered section of ogive prior to the rounded nose. It is similar to a lot of 30-30 RN bullets, if that make sense. In contrast, the original 6.5x55 bullet transitioned more rapidly from the full-diameter shank to the rounded ogive. In other words, there is less of the full-diameter shank sticking out of the case of the early 7x57 load. There is a picture of a loaded 7x57 with a hunting bullet of this shape on the Wikipedia page, if that helps.
@leoncolwin8645
@leoncolwin8645 2 месяца назад
Take a look at the Voere Titan II bolt. The Titan II had a similar three front locking lug system to the Sako Model 90. I'm sure that the Titan II influenced the new Sakos. The Titan II was produced in the 70s and 80s
@hantusmostert
@hantusmostert 23 дня назад
That cold hammer forged barrel on the Sako S20 me likes. Too expensive for me, prefer $1k rifle and $1k scope in walnut. Try the BERGARA MGMICRO LITE BOLT-ACTION RIFLE
@sammartinez8084
@sammartinez8084 3 месяца назад
You guys are amazing people 👍👍👏👏👏👏 but to much money 💰💰
@robertagusti3712
@robertagusti3712 25 дней назад
I do see they put quality stock on this rifles and watch most of youtube content but as a RUGER and winchester 70 thay all do 3/4 at100 yards do not see paying $3000.00 for a factory rifle or semy custom if i want one i send one of my receiver and put a custom barrel at PAC-NOR MATCH GRADE,AND IT WILL COST YOU LESS.
@RMM--uv7uk
@RMM--uv7uk 3 месяца назад
Every single RU-vidr doing ammo testing and gun reviews should be using a Garmin chronograph. They are a game changer. You don't have to worry about miss reads or accidentally shooting it.
@leskrug9266
@leskrug9266 Месяц назад
So you're talking about the Christiansen arms rifle, about the weight of the rifle that by the time you put the scooe and stuff you want a 7 or 8 lb rifle? Wow, let me tell you, I just weighed my hunting rifle for in Pennsylvania which I carry a Harris bipod on it, my scope is a 3 to 15x44 VX HD5 Leupold, and has laminated Woodstock, the weight of my rifle setup which it's a Thompson center venture. Barrel is 20" , 7mm-08 , was 10 lb!! And I have no problem carrying that rifle for me to go on hunting!!!
@johanlarsson3644
@johanlarsson3644 3 месяца назад
First of all Mr. Spomer, i just want to say keep up the good work. Love watching your videos and listen to your podcasts. The 30-06 is one of the big workhorses when it comes to riflecartridges. Just as the 7x57, 8x57is, 6,5x55 swede and the 9,3x62. Its versatile, hard hitting with the right bullet. What you showed here in this video is not making the accuracy justice, but i also understand that you cant sit and try 20-25 different brands of ammo and maybe 4 different loads in every brand. I live in Sweden and my first rifle was a tikka m558 308w Rh, it was a bit of a struggle since i am left handed and with a very dominant left eye, but it made me a very good shot since i always had to make sure: will it kill the animal? Since reloading takes a bit longer when you hold a right handed rifle as a left handed rifle. I later switched to Husqvarna Carl Gustaf model 1900 (think it was called Husqvarna Model 9000 in the Usa) from the late 1970s chambered in 30-06 topped of with a meopta optika 6 2,5-15x44 and a swedish made silencer and i did go the long route, i have tried about 22 different loads of ammo from maybe 12 different brands of ammo. And my conclusion is that my rifle loves 150 grains to 185 grains when it comes to factory loads and when i do my part behind the trigger, i have sub moa groups with Norma Oryx 180 gr at a 100 meters. Gonna see what i can do with 200 grains and maybe 220 grains bullets later on when i get my reloading bench complete. Would love to see you do a similar video on the 6,5x55 Swede like the one you did on the 9,3x62. I also have a 6,5x55 swede, that rifle is also a Husqvarna Carl Gustaf model 1900 left handed. Maybe should include used rifles like 30-50 years old rifles in this type of series too Over and out from Sweden
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 месяца назад
I’m not going to read your article, you immediately started off by calling the 30-06 a caliber. It’s a cartridge, the caliber is .308 which is shared with many other cartridges.
@45-70Guy
@45-70Guy 3 месяца назад
@@jaydunbar7538which could be a number of things like auto correct and or a mistake, either of which not being reason enough to not read some one’s opinion especially ones from other countries who share the same interests.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
🤠 The Only Bad Thing In The 30-06 Sako Rifles is the 1 in 11 Twist! But, I Don't Have That Problem With My 270 Sako's (They Are 1 in 10 Twists)! 😜
@joshuagarner5638
@joshuagarner5638 3 месяца назад
Time for Ron to get a Garmin !!
@davesolis5695
@davesolis5695 2 месяца назад
3900hundred dollar rifle that you have to work on to get accuracy. Fancy price,shoots like crap. Id send it back to factory and want my money back. So much for sako quality. How about people that dont no what the rifle bedding is. Basic rifle terminology.
@AntonGudenus
@AntonGudenus 3 месяца назад
The "single set trigger" is actually refering to a style of set trigger, we Europeans have available to us. It allows you to push the trigger blade forward and "set" the trigger, so it becomes a very very low pull weight trigger. There are also double set triggers, where you have two triggers. The back trigger to set the front trigger. Though that Sako 90 you have there seems to be a single stage trigger, as it has a trigger-guard with a hole for adjustment. The reason the US doesn't get those super light triggers, is that you guys have laws, that prohibit extremely light triggers. Here you'd have Sako explaining their two triggers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-muZKNDwwwjI.html
@AntonGudenus
@AntonGudenus 3 месяца назад
For reference the 250g of that set trigger (which actually is relatively heavy for a set trigger) is around 9oz. With even many European single stage triggers being able to be set to under 1lb.
@NHGUIDE88
@NHGUIDE88 3 месяца назад
I was going to reply to that comment Ron made but saw a couple here already. I had a CZ .22 Hornet that had that system. I like the set trigger for target/load development. For hunting , like Ron and Chase were doing, not setting the trigger is probably best for comparing rifles...to me anyway.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
😃 The Sako's Make Lighter Weight (5.3 lbs in a 308 Winchester) Sako Rifles That Are Cheaper Too!
@brianowen497
@brianowen497 Месяц назад
All the chronographs that use light sensors will have issues when used in sunny conditions. On a cloudy day they work fine. The new radar types don't rely on light at all. They work almost 100 percent of the time. Light isn't a factor at all.
@johnscheffler1514
@johnscheffler1514 3 месяца назад
I like the wood. It's like a piece of art more than a gun.
@cello64
@cello64 Месяц назад
My chronograph works much better on an overcast day. It allows better background contrast to 'see' the bullet passing over. It is always less reliable on sunny days.
@gbaughman3348
@gbaughman3348 3 месяца назад
Curious, some people call " high end " others say middle of the road. Having shot a lot of different rifles myself I have found most rifles paired with the right optics and ammo are usually more accurate than the shooter, especially in hunting conditions
@PeterAngles-jq7gr
@PeterAngles-jq7gr Месяц назад
Usually being 99.8%
@christojordaan5018
@christojordaan5018 Месяц назад
Hi Ron is there a chance to test Musgrave rifles they are built right here in South Africa.Like your channel.Love hunting and target shooting.Since i watch your RU-vid channel my English have improved a lot.
@apollothirteen9236
@apollothirteen9236 3 месяца назад
If you're hurting rifle doesn't cost at least $2000 then you are poor, low class riffraff. Get out of the woods. Hunting should only be enjoyed by rich people.
@rustyshackleford2723
@rustyshackleford2723 3 месяца назад
All the Weatherby wood rifles need to be factory bedded. They not doing it yet....need to
@michaelhoffman8665
@michaelhoffman8665 2 месяца назад
Just got a brand new weatherby in .243w most accurate rifle I’ve ever owned put my browning A-bolt to shame
@lesalbjerg5648
@lesalbjerg5648 3 месяца назад
The moral of the story is that factory ammo is not that good! I am sure if you would have shot some good reloads everything would have tightened up. Also did you break those barrels in? I am sure that all of those actions were made on a CNC machine. CNC has revolutionized accuracy.
@timkraft4583
@timkraft4583 3 месяца назад
I can overlook an ugly rifle if it shoots good. If it's ugly and shoots terrible and expensive. No thanks.
@hinkrakagaming5532
@hinkrakagaming5532 Месяц назад
I know they are just joking around, but can we stop perpetuating not being open with SOs about the cost of our hobbies???
@jerryjohnson4618
@jerryjohnson4618 3 месяца назад
Christian Arms rifles
@philhanson7624
@philhanson7624 2 месяца назад
Do both the Christensen Arms and the Weatherby drop the empty back on top of the next round? I saw Ron having to dig in to take out the empty.
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 3 месяца назад
The price really sako..ed me in the pocket book..😂
@gw5436
@gw5436 10 дней назад
I bought a Sako 90 Hunter in 300WM and it is such a pleasureable, super accurate and perfectly ergonomic hunting rifle, so I just HAD to go out and get a 90 Peak in the same calibre. This incredible superlight rifle shoots touching cloverleafs with solid copper projectiles, even cheap SST's touch. Yeah, I've got Rem 700's, Mod 70's, have been super disappointed by Weatherby and Browning, and beat the crap out of our Howa paddock cattle ranch rifles (which you cannot fault for the price). Do not denigrate what you don't know, in the case of Sakos, you get superb gratification from what you decide to pay. If you don't know, don't comment.
@7kkosti802
@7kkosti802 2 месяца назад
Don't blame gun if you use plinking ammo in accuracy test. Get some Lapua or Sako ammo.
@colemiller4899
@colemiller4899 Месяц назад
Check torque on all the the screws mine was off from the factory it was several inch pounds off
@lmbear
@lmbear 3 месяца назад
The funny thing is, up until this point, my 1956 model 70 featherweight has outshot every example you've shown. Can you at least get a Tikka in your possession, so the groups don't look so terrible? Thanks!!!
@jaybailleaux630
@jaybailleaux630 3 месяца назад
Or a Weatherby Vanguard or a Bergara.
@portersorensen8814
@portersorensen8814 3 месяца назад
It's not about the rifles. Your rifle from 1956 has had time to get a perfect load and be tuned to shoot as good as possible. These guns are fresh out of the box, every rifle needs to be tuned and and ammo needs to be selected that the rifle will like.
@D.B_Cooper
@D.B_Cooper 3 месяца назад
It's the dam scope.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 3 месяца назад
"can you at least get a tikka" they literally have a sako which is a more expensive tikka
@DJR1911
@DJR1911 3 месяца назад
Good video. I suppose it's a good thing that Weatherby didn't do better, I need new tires on my truck.
@mackmcbride4345
@mackmcbride4345 3 месяца назад
So long story short…the $500 dollar rifles shoot as good or better than the $2000 rifles 🤷‍♂️
@Joel_Unbound
@Joel_Unbound 3 месяца назад
Next yr on the week of June 5th do a 6.5 week! :)
@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 3 месяца назад
Spot on the Foam Plugs n Muffs I use plugs n muffs when I can.I rarely use muffs when shooting rifles though
@zacharyfrench9935
@zacharyfrench9935 3 месяца назад
I don't buy rifles for bells and whistles can't afford them anyway lol
@BusterBibb
@BusterBibb 3 месяца назад
Guys!! Guys!!! I’ve had issues with a particular scope brand before in my life..aka Leupold..shouldn’t you just change scope brands to be certain scope isn’t the issue?? Are you using the same scope to test these rifles?? Are you checking scope alignment? Torquing the screws on mounts and rings to proper inch pound??? You nailed it…there’s something wrong..start back to scope mounting..change the brand of scope..and retest…!!! Sure you’ll piss off scope sponsor but Jesus!!
@AlberthmannNielsen
@AlberthmannNielsen Месяц назад
It made be the scope , commen for those tree rifles is the scope , try to lock your rifle , an dry fire it , see if the crosshair is moving
@jasonstephenson793
@jasonstephenson793 3 месяца назад
The fact that the grouping issues where all the same on each rifle & shooting the same ammo, tells me that it's recoil control issue. & after rewatching it I noticed that on the 3rd fliers the recoil on the fliers was different, with the muzzle jumping more then the stacked shoots. So, that tells me that there was chamber pressure differences & even a small increase of even 5 can can make it where it's hard to control muzzle jump & twist in the recoil. However I was surprised that the rifle with the muzzle break was having the same issues
@stephenpaquet
@stephenpaquet Месяц назад
The inaccuracies is more than likely the bench that he’s using. It’s wobbling around during the recoil. To properly show a rifles performance a bench should be made of concrete. I’ve noticed over the years watching that when he uses this bench set up. It’s not great accuracy.
@leedoss6905
@leedoss6905 Месяц назад
They're shooting through a swimming pool.😂
@charlesschenck911
@charlesschenck911 3 месяца назад
WhatdidUdo? You missed the little red circle! Completely!
@daven1151
@daven1151 10 дней назад
I blame 30-06. I haven't seen one shoot well in person
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge 3 месяца назад
Savage 110 👍
@leonhart2452
@leonhart2452 3 месяца назад
Yes, the savage 110 and 10 have had screw in barrels from the start. These screw in barrels and the floating bolt head is one reason they shoot so well. The screw in barrel made setting headspace easy and accurate. The floating bolt head evens out stresses from poorly fitted locking lugs. A lot of manufacturers started copying some of Savage's way of doing things. Most of the budget rifles have to help reduce manufacturing prices down.
@BusterBibb
@BusterBibb 3 месяца назад
Yeah…all of my Savages are excellent shooters though I always give the rifles new laminate sticks snd epoxy bedded…using EGW HD mounts and rings..scope mount bedded and scope/scope rings aligned. Never use a Wheeler Engineeting scope alignment bars. I use Kokopelli alignment bars..but I think Kokopelli has since folded but I think the guy who made these passed away..I think.
@DadWil
@DadWil 3 месяца назад
Savage 110 with the Accutrigger & Accufit Accustock options is a very nice package.. I've got my trigger pull down to 1.5 ... my groups are under 2 moa ... would be better if I was a better marksman
@xmclub44
@xmclub44 Месяц назад
Need some better ammo sako or lapua and it would be the best gun you would have shot!
@josephholland2250
@josephholland2250 2 месяца назад
Not impressed, and disappointing for such nice rifles
@ironmikehallowween
@ironmikehallowween 3 месяца назад
I don’t believe the rifles are doing that. It may be a scope issue.
@Jezus42
@Jezus42 Месяц назад
I have been looking at a $3000 weatherby. Whats that low end shot
@blueeyeddevil1
@blueeyeddevil1 3 месяца назад
3:54 No, Ron. They don’t “cast” carbon fiber.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 месяца назад
While you’re technically correct that it’s not cast, the method he is referring to is compression molding which is frequently called casting by those not familiar with the industry.
@blueeyeddevil1
@blueeyeddevil1 3 месяца назад
Thank you for confirming that I’m correct and that Ron is not familiar with the industry.
@pedropistolas8497
@pedropistolas8497 3 месяца назад
This duo makes some awkward videos haha gives me used car dealer lot commercial vibes
@brandonmyrum965
@brandonmyrum965 3 месяца назад
You don't know what a single set trigger is?
@ChrisMiano-cg7ll
@ChrisMiano-cg7ll 3 месяца назад
Christensen is too heat sensitive. Fierce is far superior for the same money.
@samimanninen1417
@samimanninen1417 3 месяца назад
You need a proper front rest, that one was quite wobbly, not good to test with that.
@BusterBibb
@BusterBibb 3 месяца назад
And Google…I know what you’re doing…you’re so hypocritical it’s pathetic..but!!..I’ll not stop. Guaranteed!!
@keithprinn720
@keithprinn720 Месяц назад
nice sako at ten times what so many would spend on the rifle.
@georgelee2241
@georgelee2241 3 месяца назад
If you don't mind find a 7400 Remington 3006 and try it
@abbeybremner4162
@abbeybremner4162 3 месяца назад
I shoot a tikka t3x but oh how i dream of a fancy sako!
@cordelldoucette225
@cordelldoucette225 3 месяца назад
I would say it could be the scopes
@georgesinclair1393
@georgesinclair1393 20 дней назад
Lol it’s not the rifle it’s the shooter here
@50under
@50under 3 месяца назад
Good work. Despite what you see on youtube its unrealistic to expect 1/2” groups with every factory rifle/ammo combo. I’d happily take all those rifles hunting 👍
@WayneGent-t2l
@WayneGent-t2l 3 месяца назад
Need to get tikka in the mix too and some others
@literaryartist1
@literaryartist1 6 дней назад
Do they make them left handed?
@jaybailleaux630
@jaybailleaux630 3 месяца назад
I've found $$ and rifle accuracy, not that well tide together . Looks and features has more to do with cost. I'll keep my old Walmart plastic stock Remington 700 30-06. Maybe replace the stock with laminate wood. Accuracy is luck of the draw with factory rifles.
@scottstruif3939
@scottstruif3939 3 месяца назад
Carbon fiber is layered, not cast.
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 месяца назад
You’re attempting to correct someone and you don’t even know what you’re talking about. Yes carbon fiber CAN be layered, but compression molding is also a popular way to form it and is frequently called casting by those who aren’t familiar with the industry.
@scottstruif3939
@scottstruif3939 3 месяца назад
@@jaydunbar7538 Rifle stocks are not made by compression molding carbon fiber, as you and Ron suggest. Stocks are made by applying layers of carbon fiber fabric, saturated with resin, to a foam skeleton of a rifle stock.
@neilremy8861
@neilremy8861 2 месяца назад
Sako is a loverly gun and 3 week s ago tried to get one in the UK there's not one 90 quest in 22 250 in this country and Sako are not supplying or stocking them so I went custom SHAME ON YOU SAKO KEEP THE GREAT CONTENT COMING RON
@AP-jf5xv
@AP-jf5xv Месяц назад
Best rifles made in Finland.
@johnortis657
@johnortis657 2 месяца назад
You should level the bench Ron.
@24kachina
@24kachina 3 месяца назад
The sub-moa "guarantee" is a myth. Proof is when a long experienced shooter like Ron S can't get moa groups off a solid bench rest, bag, etc using quality ammo and multiple rifles.
@PeterAngles-jq7gr
@PeterAngles-jq7gr Месяц назад
Christensen makes trash
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
🤭 Ron, I Would Strongly Suggest You Watch Jim Harmer's Video on His Sako Tonight! It Has Now Become Jim and Who-Tee-Who's Favorite Rifle! 🤗
@jimdavis3150
@jimdavis3150 3 месяца назад
It's strange but every Christensen arms rifle I've seen and shot have all had terrible accuracy. I guided hunters for a guy that had one in .300 RUM and it didn't matter what bullet weight you put through whether it was factory ammo or handloads. The best group we got out of was 4 inches. A friend of mine, son had a Christensen arms in 7mm REM mag and it had the same terrible accuracy with factory or handloaded ammo and another friend of mine has one in .300 Winchester mag and the best group he's gotten from it is 4 inches as well. Every one of these rifles is in that 2000$ range and they certainly don't impress me or the guys that own them.
@wiregrassga
@wiregrassga 3 месяца назад
Just confirms what experience over the years has shown me, expensive rifles are not going to shoot any better than moderately priced rifles. A Ruger American in .308 we recently tested on my range shot consistent sub minute of angle groups with two different factory 150 gr hunting loads and two of my 150 gr handloads using Hornady SST bullets. For what these expensive rifles cost their performance is only satisfactory.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
Next Time You Need To Buy More Quality Ammunition Ron! It Isn't the 30-06 or the Guns! 🤭
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 3 месяца назад
Not sure what you’re trying to say, several of those loadings are fantastic and proven accurate in most rifles. Your favorite brand isn’t the only brand that shoots.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 3 месяца назад
It Mabey These Cheap Scopes That I Have Never Heard of Too (Or Ron), But Something Isn't Right Here? 🕵️‍♂️
@gregtruchot8826
@gregtruchot8826 3 месяца назад
Pretty sad performance. If you are going to charge premium prices in the range of custom rifles, you should be grouping very much better than these rifles. Highly surprised! Appreciate these videos!
@ed5042
@ed5042 3 месяца назад
oh, and my patriot synthetic 375 ruger with 235 grain reduced loads, 1/2 moa also, consistently. More 'OH'
@robfornelli1066
@robfornelli1066 3 месяца назад
I own a Christensen Arms FFT in 30-06, and she's a shooter. Sub moa at 100 with Barnes TTSX 168 grain factory ammo all day long.
@patcoder7308
@patcoder7308 2 месяца назад
Sure it's not a sayco
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