It Is The Sound That Is Important! - Altered Scale

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The Altered scale is a very common sound in Jazz and also one that can be tricky to get into your playing, but in this video, I will show you how to learn the sound first and then the theory so that it is easier to put to use.
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Content:
00:00 Altered Scale Is A Sound
00:32 The Problem With Theory
01:02 Listen To The Chords
02:27 Play Altered Lines
03:05 What Is The Point of Altered?
03:25 Give Me The Scale Already!
04:42 This Is How To Make Licks
06:48 How Wes Montgomery & Joe Pass Use Altered
08:05 Why is D7alt enough?
08:58 The Biggest Misunderstanding About Jazz Chords
09:15 Like the video? Check out my Patreon page!
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@JensLarsen Месяц назад

What do you use when improvising over Altered Dominants? 😎 5 Scale Exercises That Make It Easier To Learn Jazz: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZqOIH5fzpYw.html

@paulsenn1281 Месяц назад

Thanks so much Jens. I watch your videos like they are a Netflix mini series, gripping drama, light humor, cameos by celebrities,great "action" scenes!

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Haha! Thank you! You are so welcome!

@edwardebel1847 Месяц назад

❤ Paul, I like that fact that you watch these videos and recommend them to me...get well soon and maybe see you later this summer. 😊

@JeffSmith-di5rk Месяц назад

That m7b5 down a whole step is for sure the easiest sub for me if I want the #5. Actually I'm trying to be more conscious of basic augmented triads and 7#5 arps on the chord's root...they're so powerful.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Go for it 🙂

@riccardoallocca4134 Месяц назад

Can't thank you enough for these videos Jens! Simply great!

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Glad you like it, Riccardo!

@shipsahoy1793 Месяц назад

👍Thanks for this Jens. I think it's helpful the way you lay out the material. Always appreciate these directional nudges.😉

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Glad it was helpful!

@timstok3280 Месяц назад

Thnx Jens❤

@davidmiller4078 Месяц назад

Nice one Jens cheers greetings from Scotland

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Glad you like it 👍

@Mats.Fagerberg Месяц назад

Really useful and well explained!

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you Mats!

@luissanoja9390 Месяц назад

Hey Jens, greets from Miami. Thank you for that, my approach to music has been for a long time about what I hear, since I don't have any formal training. It is interesting to think of that as a proper way of learning. Thank you for your videos 🙏🔥🎸

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Great to hear!

@DenisChangMusic Месяц назад

Nice video Jens! In my spare time I research the historic use of the altered sound in jazz. My research so far shows that Charlie Parker didn’t really use it. There are certain instances where one could argue it could be the altered scale. Off the top of my head, i think in Cherokee, there’s a moment where it can be kind of argued that it’s altered. He’s not playing the tones in a way that a typical bebop player nowadays uses it, and he’s mainly sparsely targeting a few key chord tones that one could argue are from Altered, but I think he was just thinking about voice leading. I think the altered scale as we know it today started to become unambiguously very very prevalent by the second half of the 1950s. So something happened in that decade… Also interestingly enough, at some point in the 40s, Django also started to prominently play stuff like Abm over G7. That’s definitely the Altered concept but not used in the way a bebop player uses it. I have no proof, but I kinda think he got it from classical music…. You can hear it extensively in a recording he did in rome in the late 40s (Improvisation on Tchaikovsky’s Pathetique). On a D7 chord, he plays Ebm a number of times.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you! 🙂 Makes my day that you think so! That is interesting! I did indeed notice that Parker didn't really play altered, but it was there later with Wes and Joe Pass especially, but I have never found something that I would consider the origin of it. Maybe I should ask Ethan Iverson on twitter, he seems to know a lot of that stuff.

@DenisChangMusic Месяц назад

@@JensLarsen it’s in compositions like Hot House or Conception but in actual jazz improvisation, what I found was that it started to be unambiguously (keyword) used around the late 50s. Before that, it’s hard to tell.. since altered shares so many notes with diminished scale, and i do hear unambiguous instances of it than altered…

@davidkeller6156 Месяц назад

I had a teacher for a few months that taught me that but he never said it was the altered scale. He taught me, as you pointed out to, use a b6 melodic minor scale. One that I use also is a flat 2 7 chord arpeggio or flat 2 mixolydian scale.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

If it worked then it worked 🙂

@robertpeveler9570 Месяц назад

For an altered “substitution” over D7, Cm7b5 is good - or as Barry Harris would call it, Ebm6.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Actually I think he would call it a half-diminished and not a substitution 🙂

@robertpeveler9570 Месяц назад

@@JensLarsen OK! - you’d know. I just find that one easier to remember.

@retrogamerdave362 Месяц назад

I couldn't make my playing sound like jazz until I started using the altered sound in my ii-V-I progressions. That alone is probably the single most important "sound" I use besides bebop stuff

@user-ig8rq3zk7j 3 дня назад

awesome 👍

@JensLarsen 3 дня назад

Thanks ✌️

@davidsummerville351 Месяц назад

Great episode

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you! 🙂

@Philrc Месяц назад

As Emily remler put it it's just the melodic minor up a half step

@tomcripps7229 Месяц назад

Thanks!

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you, Tom!

@vivito- Месяц назад

Muy bueno video !

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you!

@MaromMan Месяц назад

Great vid

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you!

@falsenotefest Месяц назад

Super vidéo, magique, comme d'habitude je n'ai rien compris mais j'ai regardé jusqu'à la fin......la deuxième fois c'est mieux

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you! 😁

@falsenotefest Месяц назад

@@JensLarsen You are welcome, I'm always looking for the brilliant false note around which all the good ones always revolve

@timstok3280 Месяц назад

Hi Jens ,Tim from Canada Good Morning or night to you

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thanks Tim! It is mid-afternoon here 🙂🙂

@ethanbreault659 Месяц назад

sorry im late to subscribe. i learned my altered licks basics when i was 17, my mentor mentioned that to make an altered lick that i should take the lick of the II chord and move it up a minor third

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Welcome! I would be a bit careful with overly simple rules like that 🙂

@marsvinbob Месяц назад

good job Lars. even me understood it that danse scales wood!!!!

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you 🙂

@dereklam6511 Месяц назад

By far the best altered scale explanation on the internet

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Thank you 🙂

@josdurkstraful Месяц назад

For simplicity sake with beginning jazz players I often teach Over G Alt Ab and Bb minor triads to get the sound without too much trouble finding fingerings.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

For simplicity's sake I would not teach beginning Jazz players altered scale 🙂 They need to hear it as well as finding the notes.

@josdurkstraful Месяц назад

@@JensLarsen Well, that's exactly what I try to accomplish: they learn to hear it (in order to hear it you need to learn to hear it) with an easy fingering and from there we have a starting point. With beginning jazz players I mean those who have learnt the II V I progression where we want to "turn up the dominant voltage" as I call it 🙂

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

@@josdurkstrafulI am not sure beginner and altered scale need to be in the same sentence. There are a lot of things to learn in between a II V I and altered dominants

@josdurkstraful Месяц назад

@@JensLarsen Of course, I see your point there. But it does no harm either.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

@@josdurkstraful If you are only focusing on II V I's and throwing options at them without inserting this into real music then you are not really helping the student. I think it is a poor choice from a pedagogical point of view. Altered is quite a few steps down the list in terms of what is easy hear for a beginner, and it is so much more important to get them to play real music not just II V I loops.

@nicolastouren4229 28 дней назад

Hey, great video thx ! Is the altered scale, the Mixolydian mode of the tritonic substitution ?

@JensLarsen 28 дней назад

Thanks! They are related, but I would not describe it like that, modes and tonal harmony don't really work together. I usually say it is the same chord with a different bass note, I think that is a clearer description.

@nicolastouren4229 28 дней назад

@@JensLarsen Thx master ! 🙏🙏🙏

@Euro.Patriot Месяц назад

Is Heartaches a good track to get into jazz? I've been practicing it for awhile but it's hard because I'm going from barely able to read tabs to fingerstyle. The version I'm using was transcribed by patanobi on UG.

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

It is difficult to give too specific advice because everybody is different and at different levels, but maybe check out this post: jenslarsen.nl/how-to-learn-jazz-guitar-suggestions-to-begin-studying/

@dividedwords Месяц назад

@Jens: what would you say is the criterion (or criteria) for choosing between the altered sound and the h/w diminished sound, when improvising over the dominant chord in a major ii-V-i?

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Taste and context

@dividedwords 29 дней назад

@@JensLarsen Perhaps this subject would make a good video? The 'context' part, at least.

@JensLarsen 29 дней назад

@@dividedwords I suspect that is too vague for a video. Altered scale is already a bit too advanced

@ianhenkel7157 28 дней назад

play it over 8 bars ... to fast ... good job pulling em in / robben Ford really uses this well

@reginaldparker3248 Месяц назад

My question in the G diminished scale G A Bflat, C Dflat Eflat Fflat Gflat, where on the guitar fret board is the Fflat? 😊

@oluwatobiadegoke13 Месяц назад

Fflat is E

@JensLarsen Месяц назад

Yes, F flat is the same as E

@vishnaiva 28 дней назад

Where is Cflat with Gb major scale etc...

@JensLarsen 28 дней назад

@@vishnaiva ?

@mer1red Месяц назад

There is nothing wrong with starting with theory. The problem is the way it is taught. A good teacher will first let you listen to examples. Then draw your attention to certain spots. Then explain them. That's how I learned it. A major part of the educational process for theory is learning to recognize elements of what you hear. It's all about listening. A course that uses only pen and paper or a blackboard is a bad one. The beginning of the video reinforces the misunderstanding of what theory is

@falsenotefest Месяц назад

I am myself very happy that one of Jens' videos begins with the importance of sound, of the feeling of music. Listening to Miles at the Isle of Wight in 1970 makes understand the importance of sometimes being able to forget theory.

@mer1red Месяц назад

@@falsenotefest My point is that Jens does in fact the same thing as what happens in good theory teaching. So the beginning of the video is misleading and not necessary. And the result of that kind of training is indeed that you forget theory, the same way you speak your mother tongue correctly without thinking about the grammar.

@ianhenkel7157 28 дней назад

just use harmonic minor stop fing around

@JensLarsen 28 дней назад

Is it okay if we don't let your skills and taste limit the rest of us? 😁