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"Sorry there's no credibility left"

The same reason they were voted in.

Be quiet ya wee fanny

Yes, me too. I feel a bit better to read that someone else shares that. I was hoping that LibDens would be voted into Official Opposition; their holding a Labour govt to account would make for real change. I cannot understand why tens of thousands have voted for more Tory suffering. I just don’t get it.

Hopefully KS Will deliver on his promises. Let’s all hold our breath.

That depends on what direction they take now

They are finished for now. The same has been said of Labour my entire life. I have no doubt they'll be back and the people who voted Reform will return to a newly revamped horribly right wing Tory party who will promise low taxes with super services and the same bunch will vote them back in. I find it bitterly depressing.

The next 5years will be the worst we’ve ever seen

Don't hold your breath. The 15.5million unskilled immigrants aren't about to become rocket scientists and electronic engineers overnight. They're going to be joined by another 5million unskilled immigrants at a cost of £50billion a year.

Yeah but it has been racist, and is no so racist any more. Obviously still plenty of racists, Reform got 14% of the vote.

4 million votes for the BNP (sorry, Reform) suggets that you may not be 100% correct.

Why not both

Nah, it's both. Don't be silly.

​@@gnoccialpestoYou think the UK has a population of more than 66 Billion? 😂

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They've spent it on a NFarage exclusive Question Time instead

i know, miss the election specials :(

Nobody watches it any longer.

@@agt155 I almost always watch it, sometimes it's really good depending on the news that week.

Bring back Angus Deaton while you're at it ;)

yet you guys voted tory in 2019. Again. As a European, I am amazed.

​@@thesaw9988how about, ad a European, you stop voting for AFD and Marine le Pen and all the other far right parties on the rise in Europe.

@@thesaw9988 The same Europe that just returned a load of populist MEPs? The same Europe that’s grappling with the like of Marine Le Pen, AfD, Geert Wilders and Meloni? Judge not lest ye be judged.

But they are beneath contempt!

@@thesaw9988 The same Europe that just elected a load of populist MEPs? The same Europe that’s grappling with Le Pen, Geert Wilders, AfD and Meloni?

Look forward to that all changing under Labour. But won't be holding my breath. Tax is higher than it has been for decades. £150billion of public spending every year goes to immigrant families on low incomes, set to double in .number in the next ten years.

​@@PGHEngineer Where do you get your £150 billion a year figure from?

@alanbeckett4 £11,0000 per year universal credit. £7000 per year per child on education, £2000 per year per family member for NHS cover. That's £35,000 of public expedlnditure per family. Less £2000 a year tax on a minimum wage job gives you £33,000 net support from British taxpayers. 15.5million ethnic minorities of which 80% ate below the poverty line (according to Lisa Nandy). That's 12.5million requiring full support from the state, or theceequivalent of about 3million families of four. £33,000 x 3million families = £99billion. I was a little bit out when I did the original calculation because I did it in my head while watching a movie.

​@@PGHEngineer It's an OK methodology but a bit flawed. For context the entire budget for Universal credit and Housing benefit is about £75 million and that's for the whole population, and 90% of that goes on UK born people, not Immigrants, who are less likely to claim it for a number of reasons, eg: entitlement restrictions and migrants are more likely to be in employment that bars them from claiming benefits. The main problem with the methodology is that you associate being below the poverty line with claiming 100% of benefit entitlement; only a small proportion of people who are 'in poverty' according to the definition (about £20k per year) are entitled to the amount you worked out. That's not to say they don't receive any of it, but it won't be costing the country £99 billion.

@alanbeckett4 I'm sorry but what you have written is completely wrong. The total cost of Universal Credit was £78BILLION in the last financial year. Not 75million. These figures are widely available. As for what is available to a family on Universal Credit, calculators are available on the Internet to show what is available, and I have used figures for a family of four with one person in minimum wage employment, in line with Lisa Nandy's claim (taken from figures derived by the ONS) that 80% of ethnic minorities live below the poverty line. It is worth noting that any migrant resident in the UK for 5 years can claim full citizenship and then full welfare, and this is why we see a lot of young men in the thingies and not whole families. They cone here as asylum seekers, obtain rightt to remain, then claim full citizenship after 5 years and then bring the rest of their family over as legal immigrants. Thus for every young man that comes over in a dingy as an asylum seekers, there will be another 3 to 5 dependents that cone over in the legal.migration figures. This is aligned with observations that large numbers of ethnic minorities live in the poorest parts of our inner cities, and vote for the Labour Party largely because they are dependent on welfare. Alternatively you could claim the opposite, that ethnic minorities are doing rather well and are not a burden on the UK taxpayer - but then you'd have to abandon both the claims that they are the victims of racism and the evidence of one's own eyes. Of course, you can go on believing whatever you want to believe.l, but I am reminded of the Ayn Rand quote "You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality". So given enough time, even if you refuse to admit that the UK cannot keep.importing the unskilled of the world in their millions to work for Uber Eats, others will be forced to accept that not only must it be stopped but actually reversed.

Kinda like how Democrats are judged on seemingly different standards than Republicans in the US. Infuriating, really

Exactly, they’ve got a lot of work to do other wise we’re going the way of Europe and are probably looking at a Reform government in 2029

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so you voted tory, again in 2019 to top it off. It is amazing. And brexit. Were does the stupidity start....

So they voted for Starmer who is a pathological liar,who has broken every pledge he has made.

Good knockers

I completely disagree! She gave King Charles a pretend Prime Minister to have a try out on before a proper one, once he'd got the hang of having a Prime Minister. Remember how people wondered if he'd be any good? She made him look GREAT.

Pomme who has lived in Aus for close to 20 years.. There is a lot to be said for mandatory preferential voting, they way its going here i cant help but believe it weeds out the lunatics (Hanson and Palmer nonwithstanding)

Tolerance isn't always a virtue; it can also mean enduring suffering. You can tolerate pain, violence, or being replaced. The issue with people like you who advocate for 'tolerance' is that you often speak from a place of comfort and safety. Moreover, 'diversity' and 'division' share the same root word. So, don't blame the messenger....

Aus in an immigrant country. But it's a highly selective immigrant country. It doesn't let 700k in a year, of which only 14% are skilled.

It's easy to be tolerant of things if you have no principles and others are the ones suffering.

You have a very negative slant on this. You are also assuming a lot about people who are in favour of tolerance. I think you should take a look at yourself first mate.​@@skymanifest8339

Downside; Lee Anderthal, Forage, Tice? The Tory Rump* being from the Reformesque wing of the Party; meaning that, in some ways parliament will be even more polarised than ever. * Synonymous with arse.

What more? How about Labour out too. Labour winning is not an upside, they are no different to the Tories. All that's changed is the name.

@@Elwaves2925 it’s time for your meds dear! (Nurse, no 2925 has escaped from their locked ward again.)

Better grammar. It's LABOUR HAVE WON.

@@adam_meek or possibly The Labour Party HAS won?

Sunak supported Brexit and Johnson as PM, bringing catastrophe to untold numbers of people. Please save your sympathy for someone more deserving.

Pretty much like Liz Truss when she was getting voted out then :)

Neither do they

I'm not convince the electorate have a long memory.

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Replaced by who though?

She slagged off independent candidates that beat Labour in the election

Gracious isn't about being believed.

Didn't she look absolutely MAD?!

@NTL578 The BBC don't want to cover that particular 'joy of diversity'. You can bet if Reform members were slashing tires and abusing women, it would be headline news on the BBC.

You expect Labour to sort everything out in a few months unbelievable

Please explain to me where I said that. All I was commenting on is that Hislop is an equal opportunity politician roaster.

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Cheer up.

@@mcjs8640 I've had a pint.

that's always the reason why parties are voted out though. No one's ever said 'this lot are great but we think the other lot are better'. It's always been about voting people out.

@@mikeymoo1291 that's not a healthy way of thinking

@@vgstb It's true in this case, tho. Hence the low vote share - result of tactical voting to get the Tories out of office. Vote share could well swing the other way if Labour do a decent job, and far right vote share has remained stagnant since UKIP days.

Assuming a lot, aren't you?

Oh, go away.

@@mcjs8640 No.

I expect no less from either of these two, as they also work for Private Eye. They think they are the rebels - but they are very much part of the establishment.

@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Farage , Tice and reforms backers all the same , just a different branch

He was one almost forty years ago. Prominent rightwing commentator Peter Hitchens keeps wheeling this fact out, until it's pointed out that Hitchens himself was also a Trotskyist fifty years ago. There's absolutely nothing in Starmer's manifesto that resembles Trotskyism and the right wing will eventually give up with this scare tactic when it becomes extremely obvious Labour aren't implementing anything resembling it.

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If not sure you have a few diapers to give him.

Comments like that add nothing and only embarrass

My family 'invaded' in the 20's and 50's ..i deported myself in the 00's..good balace?

Nice reference to 1066. Very accurate description seeing as that was an unwanted invasion too, with far less people may I add

@@frankryan2505 prescient move! You got out before they started undermining the foundations and causing the roof to start its collapse.

France didn't exist until 300 years after the conquest. You probably think you're being smug, but is comparing contemporary immigration with violent colonisation really a wise move?

@@skymanifest8339 isn’t it the very benefits of “Violent Colonisation” that these right wing Empire Nostalgia freaks are really voting for with Leeanderthal and Reform?