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It's Finished! The 6 Valve Trumpet - Part 2 

Trent Hamilton
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In this video I demonstrate my completed 6 valve Bb Trumpet.
First four valves are the same as normal brass instruments (with four valves). 5th valve was an attempt at a quarter tone, and 6th valve was left as 3 semitones, as explained in the video.
See part 1 here: • World's First 6 Valve ...
This instrument barely functions - it's more of a sculpture than anything else due largely (but not entirely) to the quality of the donor instruments.
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Комментарии : 278   
@1901annemarie
@1901annemarie 7 лет назад
Its impressive how you get such a good sound on 2 40 dollar trumpets that you put together
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 7 лет назад
Don't be so hard on yourself; I think that squared-off tubing makes it look cool. I mean, just the fact that you went ahead and built the thing is impressive as hell. Look at how people are always talking about how they're "gonna" do this or that, well, you actually did it.
@chillbrass8000
@chillbrass8000 7 лет назад
I agree I've tried to fix a French horn on my channel
@azxtnt
@azxtnt 2 года назад
@@chillbrass8000 you have no videos :(
@112BALAGE112
@112BALAGE112 7 лет назад
The five valve trumpet has officially been defeated.
@PaddieFunk
@PaddieFunk 7 лет назад
At 5:05 when the fourth valve malfunctioned you actually got the quarter note of the Rast arabic maqam
@rodrigroudon1872
@rodrigroudon1872 2 года назад
It’s because the 4th one isn’t oiled
@joemomma45
@joemomma45 7 лет назад
now time to make double slide trombone with the cheapest trombones
@berxsol
@berxsol 7 лет назад
Ty Baird that is so bizarrw, I absolutely want to see it!
@brettclark4096
@brettclark4096 7 лет назад
Ty Baird or his own superbone, one slide along with a valve block from a piston trombone
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 7 лет назад
Such trombones isn't anything special(with double slide and/or valves). He even owned at least one of those.
@Clarisaxx22
@Clarisaxx22 7 лет назад
a contrabass trombone from 2 cheap trombones
@joemomma45
@joemomma45 7 лет назад
Tommy Brain thats what i was trying to say yes
@michaell8877
@michaell8877 7 лет назад
coming soon: two slide trombone
@nicholastrombone9899
@nicholastrombone9899 7 лет назад
Already a thing cough cough contrabass trombone cough cough.
@riverchaney292
@riverchaney292 5 лет назад
@@nicholastrombone9899 but they are not _independant_
@abedinsubashi
@abedinsubashi 4 года назад
Take to slides, put one in front of another, connect them and you have a super long slide
@RealTimeFun
@RealTimeFun 4 года назад
@@abedinsubashi How is that playable?
@RealTimeFun
@RealTimeFun 4 года назад
Probably connect the slides and join the bells, and use a mount to the human. That way, left hand is one slide, right is other. You will always be playing chords, however, unless both slides are in the same position.
@bananapisz
@bananapisz 4 года назад
I just love how he played Crown 2019 Ballad
@a_literal_brick
@a_literal_brick 7 лет назад
You could probably get more money than that thing's worth if you sell it on eBay.
@twelvetears7653
@twelvetears7653 7 лет назад
I'm sure Wessex Tubas could probably use this prototype to make a much better one
@Clarisaxx22
@Clarisaxx22 7 лет назад
wessex would probably sell it too. make it more ergonomic too. probably 4 valves with 2 rotaries
@kj4ilk
@kj4ilk 7 лет назад
SaxSavage watch some mnzoli brass the tuba player in some video's either plays standard three or a 6 valve 3 piston two rotary
@bryanray1235
@bryanray1235 7 лет назад
Thats pretty amazing that you got those garbage of brand trumpets to be something no one has every seen before. I was really interested in how you would put them together, but good work Trent good work!
@crimsun7186
@crimsun7186 7 лет назад
5 valve trumpets do exist, but not on this configuration. David Hickman has a custom 5 valve Trumpet with 1 rotor and 1 piston. The trumpet is in C. Pressing the 4th valve lowers the pitch by a half step. Pressing the trigger puts the trumpet in D. When you have both down (and they can lock in place as well), you have a Trumpet in Db.
@bryanray1235
@bryanray1235 7 лет назад
I am well aware of the 5 valve trumpet. I feel like that it is pretty cool having the many keys so extreme register notes can be grasped better.
@bonemack
@bonemack 7 лет назад
Excellent! Congratulations! Careful, though. You'll wind up with a garage full of "donor" instruments like me.
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 7 лет назад
Sorry I missed the opportunity to make a suggestion last week. I would've suggested the 5th and 6th valves do something to compensate for the fact that, when the 4th valve is depressed, all the other valves are out of tune -- a problem that the piccolo trumpet and most other non-compensating 4-valve brass instruments have.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 7 лет назад
FIRST!
@samuelyang6463
@samuelyang6463 7 лет назад
Trent Hamilton of course you beat me
@dwarflord6274
@dwarflord6274 7 лет назад
Trent Hamilton boi 👏
@nicholastrombone9899
@nicholastrombone9899 7 лет назад
True you made the video
@nicholastrombone9899
@nicholastrombone9899 7 лет назад
Also nice choice of music Gabriel's Oboe is a great piece of music
@thepixelgeek7005
@thepixelgeek7005 7 лет назад
Trent Hamilton making a six valve trumpet... I wish I could do stuff like that.
@joshandrews8913
@joshandrews8913 7 лет назад
Very interesting concept here, and as you mentioned I'm sure it's a good stepping stone to doing more of this sort of thing in the future, which I am eager to see. This was a good relatively safe way to test things out. A lot safer than using a couple Bach Strads for a first project hahaha.
@noahmeserve9165
@noahmeserve9165 6 лет назад
The 6th valve should've been a valve where when you press it down it changes to the key of A
@brennanherring9059
@brennanherring9059 4 года назад
So another 2cd valve?
@nathanieloxford6288
@nathanieloxford6288 Год назад
I have a six valve tuba with the fifth valve being a quarter step. I bought it from a guy who pieced it together in his backyard. Other than me, nobody who ever tried it could play it. I found it to be quite a fun instrument, and I played it regularly in a bread quintet for a while. However, over the years it developed so many leaks that even I couldn't make it sound good anymore (and no tech with any dignity would want to work on it lol). It's currently being 'played' by a skeleton that's suspended from my band room ceiling by fishing line. Anyway, based on my experience with under-quality instruments, my recommendation for valve lube for your trumpet is Brasso brass polish. Just put a couple covid masks under the piston vents to keep it from dripping on you 👍
@johncoffin9354
@johncoffin9354 6 лет назад
I've seen a picture of a previous 6 valve cornet. It had 7 separate bells arranged around the player's head. The idea was to have a perfectly tuned length for each ½step addition.
@rayzhang5551
@rayzhang5551 7 лет назад
I like how you played "Gabriel's Oboe" (the first tune) on the 6-valve trumpet. It's not a woodwind quite yet haha
@burger1113
@burger1113 6 лет назад
When you played it towards the end, I could literally hear the trumpet crying "kill meeee" lol
@decker5758
@decker5758 6 лет назад
2021: 24 valve trumpet
@MrInitialMan
@MrInitialMan 7 лет назад
If it must be rubbish, let it at least be interesting rubbish, no?
@Composer_Piggy
@Composer_Piggy 7 лет назад
MrInitialMan yes
@ge200099
@ge200099 6 лет назад
Yes, please continue doing this! It is just awesome to see this invention!
@raayney
@raayney 7 лет назад
the video starts at 0:00
@bearmen5140
@bearmen5140 7 лет назад
god's work my boy
@manuelbonet
@manuelbonet 7 лет назад
- UssMines - And ends at 6:29
@rakutzimbel4539
@rakutzimbel4539 7 лет назад
5:77 ;)
@nickdonner6330
@nickdonner6330 7 лет назад
- UssMines - thanks chief
@mell0_ben
@mell0_ben 7 лет назад
How does it feel like to be with the Bluecoats? :)
@willmorris8198
@willmorris8198 7 лет назад
I can't wait to see a more high quality version of this.
@kgbmmt
@kgbmmt 7 лет назад
Keep up the inspiring and crazy work - never fails to bring a smile and a chuckle!
@Galandork
@Galandork 2 года назад
that is so badass that you have the capability of doing that
@quincylaflin6465
@quincylaflin6465 7 лет назад
make a 10 valve trumpet dual bell trumpet
@d.schoepflin2247
@d.schoepflin2247 3 года назад
(Trent Hamilton) I think you should reclassify the old 6-valve trumpet as a percussion instrument and don't even put your breath in it! It kinda sounds like playing on the rim of a snare drum. The newer complete version looks and sounds great and can still be called a brass instrument! Thanks for sharing your instrumental creations with us! Dan!
@angelmonge551
@angelmonge551 7 лет назад
An interesting thing you could've done with that was have the other 2 valves change the key of the trumpets pitch like a bass trombone. You could have it set to D, Gb, F or even E. That would be kind of interesting to see but they would need to work like triggers rather than valves but since the valves do stick that could also help.
@bariphonium4
@bariphonium4 4 года назад
I love the gabriels oboe in the beginning 😍
@williamroberts5716
@williamroberts5716 6 лет назад
Looks like a steampunk espresso machine. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. It's a glorious monstrosity.
@chippotter8139
@chippotter8139 7 лет назад
I RECENTLY HAD 2 VERTEBRAE BORED OUT AND BONE FRAGMENTS REMOVED AND YOUR TRUMPET WAS NICER THEN THEN i FEEL M8. KEEP IT UP :-) . i LOVE WATCHING YOUR STUFF BEEN A FAN FROM THE START.
@drzoidberg71
@drzoidberg71 4 года назад
I come back to watch this video from time to time, and I always come up with an idea or two for what could have been done with the valves for an ideal setup. First of all, your normal valves should have been the "back three," or the first three that the leadpipe goes into. You use those valves with your right hand as usual. The "first" valve on the other block could be a muted bell with a euphonium style flange to hold the valve down, for continuous muted play. The second valve could be your microtonal valve, which by the way is probably the most interesting part of this concoction to begin with. Western instruments really aren't built with such a thing. As for the sixth valve, that would be your 1+3 combination, for extended range and alternate fingerings. For bonus points, you could manufacture new pistons and make a compensating trumpet using that fourth valve and really make a jack of all trades instrument. Out of all your zany instrument experiments, this one shows the most promise for an actual usable instrument, because I've really yet to see a commercial trumpet with any of the features you created for it, or that I added as well. I'm also glad you found a use for the world's second worst valved soprano instrument.
@eddielarralde559
@eddielarralde559 7 лет назад
Just in case anyone asks what that tune is called he played during the begging of the video, it's called Gabriel's Oboe
@chrismichaelyoung
@chrismichaelyoung 7 лет назад
Here's an idea -- put a slide after the valves on something and operate it with the off hand
@ephraimpinckney8209
@ephraimpinckney8209 5 лет назад
This could be the start of a new instrument that will be playable and accepted in the future
@danbytp
@danbytp 7 лет назад
Let me have a few pints before I listen to this again.Come to think of it,where'd I put that whiskey bottle of mine?
@matkandu
@matkandu 7 лет назад
Actually, the first 6-valve trumpet was made by Adolph Sax in the mid-1800's. Perhaps a precursor to the modern saxophone than a trumpet.
@funkehdoot
@funkehdoot Год назад
it sounds really good
@mrbobpineapple4068
@mrbobpineapple4068 7 лет назад
If you have welding materials or really really good solder, you should get another trumpet and a trombone and make a jazzophone. They're really expensive, so it would probably be better to just make one. They're pretty neat-o.
@dliessmgg
@dliessmgg 4 года назад
If you do such a trumpet modification again, would you consider making it so it supports 19 tone equal temperament? It's a pretty neat tuning system that is an easy expansion from the standard 12 tones.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 4 года назад
stronger springs and polishing the valve pistons could help with sticky valves for little or no money put into the horn. yes! we would enjoy seeing it on The Wall
@blockaechilds1240
@blockaechilds1240 4 года назад
Two years late but... CAROLINA CORWN’S 2019 PROGRAM, BENEATH THE SURFACE
@legobananaman95yt30
@legobananaman95yt30 4 года назад
Ye idk why I’m rewatching and that sounded familiar then I read ur comment and remembered it’s Gabriel’s oboe I think XC
@VoodooDewey69
@VoodooDewey69 2 года назад
I think you missed your calling I think you should be a secret agent like James Bond .Building Bollywood trick trumpets that shoot bullets.
@themadjem
@themadjem 7 лет назад
That's actually pretty cool
@aidanchristensen1581
@aidanchristensen1581 4 года назад
you could make the 6th valve a flat tone for use with the 4th valve to make it in tune
@connnnnnnor2096
@connnnnnnor2096 7 лет назад
Its 1 in the morning where i am but i dont care.
@Pearagon10
@Pearagon10 7 лет назад
Same lol
@Danny45635
@Danny45635 7 лет назад
Connor's Moto World me too lol
@nicholastrombone9899
@nicholastrombone9899 7 лет назад
He hates Americans confirmed
@ezthelegendary8441
@ezthelegendary8441 7 лет назад
Connor's Moto World it's confirmed he hates east coast Americans. I'm on west coast so get rekt
@moistsentientbagel5116
@moistsentientbagel5116 7 лет назад
Me too
@mattildahubbardo
@mattildahubbardo 4 года назад
Cool trumpet!
@brendanlee5018
@brendanlee5018 7 лет назад
For the 5th and 6th valves, one could be a quater tone up, and the other could be a quarter tone down
@SamuelPlaysBrass
@SamuelPlaysBrass 6 лет назад
I know you left this comment ages ago, but going “up” any desired amount is damn near impossible with piston valves as far as I can tell. If he had some way to mount a rotary on then perhaps it would be an option
@immortalmecha8770
@immortalmecha8770 6 лет назад
Well im getting a new trombone in February, you can have my old one! King 606, no trigger, works well and has a few dents and dings. Bell is slightly bent.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 6 лет назад
Sure. Send it to me and I'll happily review it.
@benjaminmcclatchey9814
@benjaminmcclatchey9814 Год назад
That’s awesome!
@perfold2137
@perfold2137 6 лет назад
That actually looks pretty cool
@bradleyziegelmaier
@bradleyziegelmaier 7 лет назад
I love the intro
@awildjared1396
@awildjared1396 4 года назад
nice job playing legend of the castle aramagh
@kj4ilk
@kj4ilk 7 лет назад
trent make a trombone with the valves of a trumpet then two slides then two triggers F & Db that would be a cool trumpbone
@toznerd6369
@toznerd6369 6 лет назад
If that ain't for playin' acid jazz, then nuthin' is!!!!
@zacharycoronado6749
@zacharycoronado6749 7 лет назад
The sixth valve would be a very easy quarter tone modification.
@brennanherring9059
@brennanherring9059 4 года назад
For the Americans out here, that's about 1/6 of a watermelon worth of valve oil.
@samsignorelli
@samsignorelli 7 лет назад
Interesting experiment....but my eyes are drawn to the soprano bugle and mellophonium behind you!
@alphabeets
@alphabeets 3 месяца назад
I wonder what the melt value is for the brass. 😂
@carterw70
@carterw70 7 лет назад
Very nice!
@timothystewart1818
@timothystewart1818 6 лет назад
Can I buy it? The shipping would probably cost more than the instrument though.
@rrjann
@rrjann 6 лет назад
Trent, maybe you could do a program explaining why European brass are manufactured to a different pitch, or at least in the past they were, and you have to be careful when buying a used horn not to get one that is pitched higher than 440 A. I bought a horn not knowing better and lengthened the tuning slide, which helped, but the horn never sounded good after that.
@paulkolodner2445
@paulkolodner2445 4 года назад
I think you should have the bell point to the left.
@tubruh7256
@tubruh7256 7 лет назад
Maybe a double slide trombone? Idk man. Keep up the good work!
@tiggerkluessendorf
@tiggerkluessendorf 7 лет назад
Can I buy one from you?
@michaelprozonic
@michaelprozonic 4 года назад
maybe the 6th valve should be a key change valve so you could have a C/Bb trumpet
@webz3589
@webz3589 6 лет назад
Attach straps to the valves so you can pull them back up
@legoshaakti
@legoshaakti 7 лет назад
The sixth valve should lower the pitch by a half step, putting the instrument in A, thus making it easier to play in keys with a lot of sharps.
@Capricegirl_
@Capricegirl_ 4 года назад
Can you make a 6 valve euphonium?
@Elemental029
@Elemental029 7 лет назад
maybe the next one might be or involve the world cheapest Trombone
@skrame01
@skrame01 6 лет назад
Very good sir. How about electrically actuated valves?
@gamingwithbeefy7565
@gamingwithbeefy7565 6 лет назад
Can you please send me the link for the song a the end of every video
@Frank_Serota
@Frank_Serota 6 лет назад
Brillo pad, then finest grit sandpaper and blue juice
@chiwea123
@chiwea123 6 лет назад
Maybe you could try putting a nice dent in the fifth valve?
@nasyithrahman9594
@nasyithrahman9594 4 года назад
But does it djent?
@gerbenbuijze
@gerbenbuijze 5 лет назад
What if you press the 3rd and the 6th valve?
@TheStickCollector
@TheStickCollector 6 лет назад
Do more please
@nathanielwilliford2589
@nathanielwilliford2589 7 лет назад
Or a bekeleywinds trumpet
@derpysheep5872
@derpysheep5872 6 лет назад
*sees at least 4 valves* I'm interested
@GoldrushGaming0107
@GoldrushGaming0107 6 лет назад
We played that first song in band
@Gretchen1978
@Gretchen1978 7 лет назад
great hack, Trent :)
@rawlinsonboy
@rawlinsonboy 5 лет назад
The 6th valve should blow bubbles or be connected to a kazoo
@jacobdees3882
@jacobdees3882 7 лет назад
Dr Seuss would be proud
@kj4ilk
@kj4ilk 7 лет назад
Jimmyjohns Official yes he would
@superer1703
@superer1703 7 лет назад
you really should change the entire layout to avoid tuning issues
@jerretm
@jerretm 6 лет назад
This is probably impossible but you should combine the 6 valve trumpet and combine it with a bass trumbone
@jeepwrangled79
@jeepwrangled79 2 года назад
You still have enough fingers for 4 more valves, you must put more
@stephenowens5091
@stephenowens5091 6 лет назад
try changing out the springs in the valves
@SpartacusLegends117
@SpartacusLegends117 6 лет назад
Isn't there some strange way to make the sound come out of two or more bells at the same time without a valve to switch between them
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 7 лет назад
See if you can get some really shitty old Getzens. Bent, leadpipe like Swiss cheese, you get the idea. The thing is, Getzens have the best valves on the planet, and those valves are hard to kill (unlike the rest of any trumpet) so you can get cheap Getzen valve blocks to experiment with.
@nathanielwilliford2589
@nathanielwilliford2589 7 лет назад
You should have made the fifth valve like the second trigger on a trombone putting it into Gb and made the 6th valve what the fifth valve does now
@kj4ilk
@kj4ilk 7 лет назад
Nate Da Trombonist to do that youd need to engage the F attachment valve first
@nathanielwilliford2589
@nathanielwilliford2589 7 лет назад
kjilk simble not if you could find a way to make it like an independent system
@lancelotjoseph
@lancelotjoseph 7 лет назад
whow amazing..can i c u in the US..where
@seansutherland6270
@seansutherland6270 7 лет назад
what if the 6th valve made it a piccolo trumpet with no valves
@cdarrinford
@cdarrinford 4 года назад
6th valve could change the key of the horn like a french horn 4th valve
@nathanielwilliford2589
@nathanielwilliford2589 7 лет назад
What do u think of them
@zxmuel
@zxmuel 7 лет назад
wowww
@indieWellie
@indieWellie 3 года назад
why not a rotary slide trombone next?
@noahstoffel4509
@noahstoffel4509 4 месяца назад
For what purpose
@emorigami7108
@emorigami7108 7 лет назад
What about a trombone with two slides?
@bamaslamma1003
@bamaslamma1003 Год назад
What's the lowest note it can play with all six valves pushed down?
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