@@adhasky Because to me this feels like the "second-step" in this new era of modelers we now live in (first step arguably being the Neural QC) - I wouldn't be surprised if the next Helix looks/functions a lot like this. It's taken the innovations/features that things like the QC have done (pedal capturing, touch-screen UI, etc), and iterated/improved on things even further. Like the inclusion of Autotune is pretty huge, and Headrush has always been ahead of the curve with their user-interfaces. It's just nice to see these companies competing and pushing things forward, creating more powerful and versatile "workstations" like this.
If this had come out before the Quad Cortex, I would have bought this. However, I’m way too happy with the QC to think about changing. Bravo to Headrush, I wish them well.
Happy with Quad Cortex except they still haven't given you any of the features they promised at launch 3 years ago like desktop editor or the ability to use your previously purchased Neural DSP plugins and improving the cheap low quality power supply and the monthly amp model updates. all things they stated and used in marketing to sell the product and get pre orders yet failed to deliver on in all this time
@@svpmusic8140 You’re not wrong but I never needed a desktop editor and still don’t care about that. The ‘cheap’ power supply has served me well for many years and many gigs. I have more the enough models and captures to reproduce any sound I need. The Plug-in porting is stll a disappointment but I’ll survive.
@@tonepilot it's more a case these were things they based all the marketing on to get pre-orders then once they released the product they pretty much abandoned it. mind you they might realise now they got to pick up there game now thing like this and tone X are coming out and are more affordable
I normally never stick with a one of these... I"ve had them all.. This one I have to say may be a keeper! I always loved the OS on the Headrush. Fluff awesome as always!!
Howdo Fluff. Must admit I've had the Prime for over a week now but have used the Headrush since 2018 while I was depping and this never let me down. Great innovation and still an overlooked unit. Best wishes from the UK.😎😎🎶🎶🎶🎶😊😊😊😊
The only thing I really dislike about the Headrush stull is the lack of a computer interface. When I used the Helix stuff I really liked being able to tweak in the computer and to use the plugin when recording. However, I tested the Headrush MX5 and really liked the sounds for what I do (Fender, Vox, mostly) to have more life to them than the Helix versions. I like the touch screen, but I wish it had even a rudimentary app when connected to the computer.
I used to have a Headrush pedalboard (the big one) and loved the sound of it. It is less "tweakeable" than other units but that was not a con for me. If any it's a pro since I got less "options paralysis". But eventually, the lack of a soft interface was a deal breaker for my personal use. I ended up selling it and buying a Helix LT. And while it has more bells and whistles, the audio quality is pretty much on par (IF you are willing to tweak a little... there's a point for the HR). But the game changer is the control soft and the easy-to-use USB interface (in the HR it was a nightmare).
They have been hinting at that feature, at least with a tablet or mobile, with the Prime using the new Bluetooth. Not sure if/when it's coming, but it looks like they've been hinting at it
@@kh485 Good for you that it's not necessary to use any Headrush products, and even if they add some sort of computer interface, it won't be necessary to use it
While I understand your sentiment, and agree to an extent, I find myself doing everything I need to do on the touchscreen. I think if they do add an app it should be for an iPad and not a computer. It makes more sense to put the iPad nearby and use the larger screen. Overall, I don't think it's really necessary. I'll gladly install the app should it ever come later but if it never does I won't lose any sleep.
@@officialWWM There's lots of reasons to care. When this style becomes the standard it means that more advanced versions with varying features and more cost effective versions and smaller versions will start to exist. Yes, this headrush is pretty cool, but it's still a lot of cash and it's big and it's simply not for everyone. However I do think that as this becomes standard and better/cheaper it will be for everyone.
Hahahaha the Standard? That it will never be. If you like it and does what you need then that's what matters. ON A PRO LEVEL? HAHAHA NA....NEVER, EVERYONE SHOULD FEAR KEMPER II!! AS THEY STARTED THIS HIGH END PROFILING OR CAPTURE MARKET OR THE WANNA BES THAT EQ MATCH!!. Not the same. It seems good on price for what it is.. But people are sleeping on KEMPER even though they started this whole "Copy or PROFILE or Capture an amp." Wait and see
@@JC-fj7oo I don’t think there is any one product that is for “everyone”. There’s loads of options and choices out there at all different price points…you just buy what suits your needs and budget.
I had the first Headrush and I sold it fairly quickly, it just didn't sound like I wanted it to, but I just ordered the Prime and I'm very excited about this one. They definitely made some awesome changes and I'm stoked to play around with it.
I hear the big channels rave about the capture feature. I'm sure this is a step up being it's years since the Mooer GE300 came out, but the Mooer has been able to capture amps, cabs, pedals, and guitars for years. Also the Mooer has a 30 minute looper
I’m an OG Headrush user, and I’ve tried the others. It’s always been the easiest unit to get good tones. It’s never had the most features, amps, FX, etc. But, if you’re a player that doesn’t want to use a laptop and wants to dial up tones quickly and have fun playing music… then this is it. My Prime is on order, and I am stoked because Capture tech was the main thing that I missed.
This board has everything. The usability is incredible, the loaded features are god tier. The MAJOR downside is that the inbuilt amps that come with are exceptioanlly meh - to the point in this video where Ryan uses a cloned up for the mix sounds. The inbuilt amps, even through Headrush's own FRFR speaker sound incredibly processed. It's such a shame because EVERYTHING else is absolutely wonderful, but an inbuilt amp catalogue that barely rivals Podfarm is a hard no. EVERYONE making videos about the Prime is extolling the cloning process, but barely demonstrating the inbuilt pre-selections. I'm buying an all-in-one, would I have a stack of amps or pedals to clone, or a massive library of IRs? Headrush is relying on third-party inputs to make the Prime bounce ahead of the competition.
Hi Fluff! I've got a question. Taking into consideration that you've tested both the Quad Cortex and Headrush Prime, which one would you pick? I've been wanting to buy a new equipment (wanting QC since it came out) and the QC and, now, the prime are the two things I am considering. Which one is better overall in sound quality?
USB-B is basically an audio industry standard at this point. I would be more concerned if it didn't use USB-B tbh, its a really solid connector for the most part.
On my Prime the cable is not difficult to insert or remove. I think the failures happen when the jack is tight on the plug, and you loosen it from the board and short it out? I don't see that happening with my unit.
I just got mine a few days ago. It's badass and does everything I need it to do. The pedals and amps sound amazing. There are loads of IRs already inside. The navigation on the touchscreen couldn't be easier and is a much better experience than the Line 6 unit's way of working. The Prime is worth the price of entry. My only gripe is I iwsh it had a second set of effects send/return. Other than that minor hardware gripe? The Prime is awesome.
As a prior Headrush pedalboard owner I really don't get why they added an amp/pedal profiling option. If they had just updated the board with more of a calvalcade of amps/effects/cabs/ir's, more DSP processing power - a more cost effective solution would have been available with a reduced cost rather then a $1300 board.
Funny you mention the horizon devices precision drive, I just cloned it the other day from my buddy’s pedal board. The gate DOES create a problem, but you just compensate it by adjusting the sag on the fine tuning during the A/B comparison. I found that cutting the bass a bit and increasing the sag made a pretty dang close replica. Now if I can just find a Headrush user who wants to clone their V4 Kraken for me…
I have the gigboard and found the 4 foot switches too few for easy live control situations. Received the prime yesterday. Looking forward to moving over to this unit. It is kinda huge but I’m hoping it’s truly the all and one solution I’ve been looking for.
Could you share your 5150 III clone?!? Please? I don’t have one to clone. I just got this yesterday, and so far am pretty impressed with the dirty amps… the clean sound anemic but with an annoying rumble in the bottom end.
Headrush is my favorite multi effect unit company. I'm a simple man and I always loved the user friendly aspect of it with the touch screen and visuals. Also the loop is second to none. But...as much as I would be tempted to pull the trigger on this, personally at this point I'll wait for the Bluguitar Amp X because it will be literally an amplifier (since it will have a power section integrated like the Iridium) with all the bells and whistles like cloning and stuff. If it was wasn't for that though, at 1300$ USD, Prime is hard to beat in my opinion!!!
In all those videos we always want to know how the new staff is compared to the old ones like qc , kemper etc. is that so difficult to understand this without even asking and just say an opinion about that ?
I want to see a head to head with this and the QC. Ive been wanting to buy a QC for a while and this is quite a bit cheaper. If its as good or close to it, I may get this instead.
Fix your mic gate next time dude. :) It's a little annoying with the little mini pops when the gate closes or opens. Nice video anyways. Greetings from Greenland.
i had the Headrush but i got rid of it for the Helix because it just didn't have enough effects for my liking. Line 6 has a metric shit ton of effects. i ❤ effects. lol
I have the kemper stage, but the headrush with its superior user interface is very interesting. Unfortunately this is the only video so far where the high gain tone sounds good. Otherwise always digital and fuzzy. Did they pack the old Headrush algorithms into a more modern unit with more features, or is it a completely new modelling?
Helix Floor has been long overdue for a 2.0. If they simply brought the functionality up to par with this Headrush Prime and added some more modern DSP, it would slay. Of course they'll probably charge $1,999 for it as well. (You heard it here first 😂)
so can i clone something from my amp to the pedal and then go plug into another amp and ill have the same tone through that other amp, does it basically just save different presets into the pedal?
Thanks a lot for the information on this Headrush Prime, I bought this recently and it's a bit hard for me to understand it's capabilities, I'm not that tech savvy so it's an uphill climb for my understanding it. I bought a Neumann TLM 102, their cheapest large diaphragm condenser microphone, I was wondering if you think this microphone is decent or should I have spent more? I'm interested in using this a lot for vocals and guitar. Your thoughts if you have a moment to answer? Thank you, new subscriber.
Used to own the Headrush pedalboard (it sounded horrible), got a Kemper stage and later on a QC. Sold both the Headrush and the QC but kept the kemper stage. Got the Tone X as well. The only unit I could possibly exchange the Kemper stage for is probably the Headrush prime. There are just 2 problems ,the amount of kemper profiles out there and the missing PC editor in the HR.
@@MotownGuitarJoe Just for clarification, I bought the Tone X software and not the pedal. The Tone X pedal doesn't work for me for the simple reason that I own zero analog pedal, sold all of them when I decided for going 100% digital, and I have to relyon amplitude5 for effects. My experience with the tone x software has more downs than ups unfortunately, but I found an use for it that is changing the way I look at it, will explain later. Pros- it captures amazingly close if not exactly the same to the source. Downs- I have to pair it with amplitude 5 to build my tones and after 15 years messing around with guitar plug-ins I must confess that I hate them all. - I use Gibsons 50's wiring style on all my guitars including the non Gibson ones, and the tone x software can't respond to the volume/tone knobs roll off as a real amp or the kemper does. - The noise gate of the Tone X and of the amplitude 5 is just terrible. What I found messing around with the Tone X and the Kemper is that the Kemper can capture the tone X with the same results the tone X has while capturing real amps. So what I am doing is capturing the amazing tonex captures with my kemper stage. This way I get an much more accurate capture of an amp inside my kemper with amazing dynamic, playability, noise gate and effects that the kemper offers.
Been looking at a lot of floor modelers recently. Are there any that omit drives and just do modulation type stuff? Phase, flange, chorus, reverb, delay, envelope filter, ring mod, and all that? Something I can stick in my FX loop. Or would I be better getting something like one of these and just setting it to do what I want?
It only lacks one single thing: a built-in drummer (that would work perfect with the looper). Other than this, it is the perfect guitar and voice processor!
Can you load a loop you previously saved by using the foot switches or do you need to bend down and use you finger on the screen. I want to load saved loops during a show without crouching down each time. Can't find any info on that in the manual or videos so far. Thanks
Thank god I wasn't the only one hearing. It's distracting as fuck. I think his mic or interface might be messed up or he's got some bitrate issues or something.
No one has covered (10+ big you tube channels) the reamp feature which I'm super curious about. This was still very informative though thanks. EDIT.... if anyone has used reamp message me let me know if good or not.
You mean reamping with the clone feature? Because the normal reamp is just set the reamp mode in the unit and connecting your tracks in your DAW. I say this from a MX5 POV but I guess it's the same.
I HAVE A HEADRUSH I WANT TO USE! But there are so few licensed repair techs anywhere near here and every shop I've taken it to won't touch mine. The literal only problem is an input jack replacement. it powers, all buttons and switches work, I just need someone to fix the input jack... or output, whatever is making no sound transfer and the nearest is states away costing me hundreds in shipping costs because beefy and heavy. So it's a paper weight until I can get it fixed. Mid Mo if you have suggestions I may not have tried.
@@WarrenPostma Well right now it is a very expensive paper weight without the ability to repair it. I thank you for the context your comment provides, but it sadly changes nothing about the useless state of my headrush.
I wonder if you can open a capture on a gig board or if it a different file type. That would be great to still be able to and just not be able to capture. The prime has way too much unnecessary stuff that most ppl don't need plus it's way too big
How is the DSP capacity. I know you recently went away from Helix because of DSP limitations. Do you see yourself running out of DSP on this with a similar patch to what you use with the Axe FX stuff?
The original Headrush Pedalboard that came out in 2017 was a quad core processor that could run multiple instances of high DSP effects such as reverb. The little MX5 can run all Pedalboard rigs without modification so it too has high DSP headroom. The new Prime takes that up a notch. DSP power has always been a strength Headrush has over Line 6
have you messed with preset switching? Some other reviewers tried it and it was buggy with lots of lag. The audio was "gapless" as advertised, but there could be a quarter second wait between the press and the change.
I currently still use the original Headrush pedalboard (a seasoned veteran if you will), and in the demos I've seen on the prime, the issue is the way they are going about switching. They were switching between entire "Rig's" mid song. I think it's just a bit of a lack of understanding about what can be done and the best way to do it. (like, would most people unplug their guitar from a rig on stage and then plug into an entirely different rig mid song?) The better way if you want tighter switching is to use scenes inside of the rig. I use 1 Rig per song, and then I have scenes set up to move through all the parts of the song. So something like Pull Me Under, I load the rig up at the start of the song (From all the songs I have arranged into a setlist for that night) and it starts off already with the Roland JC120 lots of chorus and reverb etc (acoustic modeler to give it a bit piezo feel), and then as soon as I press the assigned scene button it loads into the first scene change, which swaps out the JC120 for a Mesa Boogie MarkIIC+, with appropriate IR's, tighter delay and reverb, compressor at the start and end of the chain etc. Then I press the button again and it goes into a lead tone with more depth for the solo. And these switches happen as I press the button down, and virtually instantly (if you change between rigs, it actions on the release of the switch as well as has a bit of delay while it loads and unloads all the hardware that is assigned to the rig). \m/
@@Bubblegoose Thanks. That's helpful for sure. So in your rig, you just have the 2 amps and then use scenes to switch between them? So you're limited to what can be loaded in a single preset? Just trying to make sure I understand. Thanks for the info!
@@misterringer No worries at all. In the rig I mentioned, I have an amp in a single slot, and with the scene I am changing that amp block's preset, not turning off an amp in one slot and turning another amp on in another slot. So with a scene, you can turn on or off a block, or change the preset. So this applies to other fx as well. With the intro the chorus is a lot wetter and more luscious, and the same with the delay. However when I go to the main sound, I still want chorus and delay, so with the scene, I am turning off the acoustic sim block, turning on a second compressor, turning off an EQ block, and I am changing the preset of the Amp block, the IR block( this doesn't just change IR's it also alters the Hi and Lo cut and the output volume), the delay block and the chorus block. I could for sure make a rig that is so complicated that switching via scenes is not possible, however In the real world I haven't run into any issues. And the prime looks like it has even more slots than the pedalboard I have. So it shouldn't be an issue at all.
The one thing I don't like about it is that it only has 1 stereo XLR out instead of 2 mono XLR Out so FOH can make EQ changes to guitar and vocals separately
It has L+R balanced 1/4” outputs AND L+R XLR outputs. Guitar can be sent in stereo out one set of outputs while vocals are sent in stereo out the other set of outputs. So it exceeds what you are asking for
I have a quad cortex right now and I love it but it's already falling behind this new unit. If fractal made a new unit with a touch screen, I would be all over it.
@@AndGuitar but don't get me wrong, it's an awesome unit and I'm willing to wait for the updates. Sometimes I just get tired of hearing about something new that's coming out every two weeks. Haha
@@0megalul309 ? It’s had many updates. Added looper, harmonizer, amps, captures, presets, effects, hybrid mode, fixes, interface improvements and more to come.
