It's officially OVER! The End of an Era.. Now What? 

Aye yo I never thought I’d see the legendary Mori here Good to see your a dodge bro too 😁

Didn't they say that there won't be hemis? Maybe some better V8 is coming?

​@bc9477 Highly doubtful. The type of owners they have now are accustomed to kowtowing to government and toeing the line. They're sheep to the federal wolves. They're used to building cheap (and I don't mean economically), weak/underpowered, slow, and lame or lazy designs with no innovations. The Demon was only cool in reality to those who owned them! It was a last gasp of life from a dying era. Well, an era that was strangled and murdered. Now Dodge will be represented more vanilla vehicles that specific types of people will buy. It won't be the guys that paid a quarter mill for a Challenger. It'll be green conscious goobers that want Urkle cars with batteries that have no idea how truly devastating the production process of a battery really is. Dodge is done.

Unfortunately I don't think they will reverse this decision. Just a sad day lol

They don't have a choice...Dodge was paying out the ass in CAFE fines to the federal government to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars so they can financially continue making those vehicles. This is partially why the Charger and Challenger were increased in price to try and make up those costs. Dodge doesn't have any fuel efficient vehicles to offset the horrible mileage and emissions the Charger and Challenger have so they were having to purchase CAFE credits from companies like Tesla which are very expensive. This is why vehicles like the Dodge Hornet are important to Dodge whether you like the vehicle or not. The more vehicles like that they sell the more Dodge can make a new muscle car and sell it without having to pay those fines. You should want to Hornet to sell very well, even if you don't like it.

I think they're still lots of fun to be had with these cars, I mean, it's not like Stuff we don't know about them are gonna be found out Or at least much stuff, but the whole reason I got the super stock Is cause I figured Y not Try to get one of the rarest To at least have that to say, but it's just another name Kind of a demon in sheep's clothing With almost a matching price tag, But no fan fair.😢 I mean, it's stupid that the direct connection kits literally just tern it into what it is a demon, Lately even says the same stuff once you do it. Must add 100 octane 2 get blah Blah blah Just need to activate on the uconnect instead of a button. And shhh🤫 But it's really easy to do yourself Not like I was gonna sit there and pay Dodge thousands of dollars for just a little bit of power. But I'm going big with this one.

​@BrotherKellerman the R/T had a 5.7 Hemi. It's the SXT and GT with the Pentastar.

Electric American Muscle #1 ⚡️🇺🇸

Vote with your wallet. Ford is still producing a v8 mustang. Tell them you appreciate that by buying one.

@@chuckz28 Thing is though, Ford doesn't make a car that looks like the Dodge Challenger. Nobody has anything that looks like it. It's the only car that stayed true to it's classic roots and resembles anything like the original. Ford did at one time when the Mustang came back, but now all that classic styling is gone. It's now some modern interpretation that resembles nothing like it's 1960's counterpart. :(

Dodge 💀

Ok, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Exactly And it's probably only be going up, with the same dodge quality (being okay, but not very good)

@@jointhefist1016 ..Whats not good with their quality? I never had any issues,cars are well built dont rattle and they last..My R/T had 185,000 miles with zero issues!

Well,K cars would fit in your budget...Aries and Reliant were the K cars...Even the square LeBaron was..The sportier J Body or J Car LeBaron and H body or H car LeBaron GTS were a lot nicer.. The G body or G -Car Daytona/Laser was cool car that did beat 5.0 Fox Body or Fox cars and 5.0 and 5.7 Chevy/Pontiac Trans-Am and Camaro back in the day.. Shelby Charger L body were pretty quick especially for 1980's cars 14-15 sec 1/4 mile cars...Those K cars Aries/Reliant with the Chrysler built 2.2 and 2.5 4cyl ran 300,000 miles and were good driving,solid cars..The Japanese imports were ugly as hell back then for the cars in the same class.. I am a former Toyota Tech (retired at 38 several years ago) and the owner of the dealer I worked for also owned a Chrysler dealer adjoining building..I started in the early 90's and they still worked on Aries/Reliant K cars as they built the K car until 1989..They were as good and better than some Toyota products back then.. Remember people assume the mileage on the odometer is actual,they only went to 99,999 then to 00,000 again Chrysler didn't use a 6 digit odometer until the early 90's on most cars,this is where the confusion begins even with old 60's and 70's cars..They all have 200,000 plus miles! I am a car guy/collector and restorer! Now,I assume you meant K car Aries/Reliant for the looks,well they have the Hornet for that these days...Dodge is dead and gm will dump a few divisions yet,Ford is electric after 2028 when the Mustang Coupe goes away,only the Mustang Electric suv.. Do what I did,until 2005 I drove 1960's and 70's Mopar cars my daily was a low 12 second 1/4 mile 383 Cuda..383 was pretty much stock,Mopar purple cam and mildly polished/ported heads..I also ran 3.23 gearing..I had and have tons of old cars as I always bought/sold cars since the late 80's as a teen.

I don't mean that they have bad quality They're okay, but not really good

@@mypronouniswtf5559 Who’s budget? My budget a lot bigger than a K-Car. It’s not a budget issue it’s a inflated price issue. Dodge has went up about 40 percent on MRSP, since 2020. An it’s the exact same dam vehicle.

Yeah and that is why the end of the era feels that much worse

Dodge 💀

They are listening to Biden. If only you understood how important that is to do in todays world...

You would be correct.

Yup

Good

Facts

Dodge will pretty much died out like Pontiac did back in 2009/2010.

Makes almost not want to drive my scat pack.

Ugh. As much as I hate to contemplate that, it makes a lot of sense.

True

Mopar muscle car owners who want these high HP ICE in these vehicles are like gun owners - just a small drop in the bucket in a vast ocean of consumers who really don't care about any of it! Unless the EPA CAFE MPG laws can be changed at the federal level, any one who buys Dodge, or any other company, will be faced with the same problem that Dodge is facing right now with the CAFE standards! They certainly are NOT going to invest hundreds of millions of dollars to build an engine and vehicle that they cannot sell or if they sell, they will be penalized to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars - that's what Stellantis is experiencing right now!!! Stellantis now pays hundreds of millions of dollars to Tesla to buy carbon credits for their corporate MPG doesn't meet federal standards!!! So Tesla does nothing but make their battery cars and get paid this pile of money just because the federal government has their hand on the scale tipping it in favor of battery car.

Not if the 2025+ Ram gets a crappy engine like that. It's not a replacement for the V8. regardless of whether it's a Ram or a new Charger

Yup, i still have my 1967 coronet R/T.

Same. I'll own it till I die and I'll pass it down to my son. Not feeling good about Dodge's future, esp. since I've seen maybe 2 commercials for the Hornet (no wonder they ain't selling).

Same here, we have a 2023 Dodge Charger RT Scat Pack with the 392 Hemi V8 in it and man its a beast and it sounds like the God of Thunder.

Awesome

The reason why the 2nd muscle car era is over because the mustang and Corvette already come suped up and out of the price range for entry enthusiasts... No room to build with the core audience. 20-35 year olds are not and will not buy the two cars em mass. If we have to be like Cuba then so be it...

​@@newavenues3705funny, very funny!

Yep you got it brother

Yeah it isn't here. Probably like 5 to 10 years at least. But that doesn't mean they're gonna keep making big hemi v8 cars because of it

@@jointhefist1016 yep at least that, and I’d honestly say it’s closer to 10 than 5. But even then I mean can an electric truck tow what as much as v8 can all day on one tank of gas/one charge? And then gas companies will go out of business as well leaving millions upon millions of people without vehicles potentially. Then on top of that I can fill up my truck in about 5 min tops, I’ve seen electric cars take up to 30 minutes causing major lines and delays. Also many “off brand” charging stations may not even work for your vehicle. It’s gonna be a huge change and I think forcing it now is just dumb by the powers that be, I just think the world is ready for it.

I don't think gas companies will ever go away. Plastic and stuff. But they might get smaller, maybe merge with each other, few may shut down

I know brother and it breaks my heart.

FACTS💯WITH THE WAY DODGE IS GOING IMMA HAVE 2 GO CORVETTE NEXT💯

The ZL1 is FUN. A 'Cat/Demon may take it in a straight line, but they have no chance in hell on a turn or a course. That Camaro shines on a track and has so much more you can do to it. Rides much better too, and I love the Challenger. I predict Ford is going to make BANKKKKK with the Mustang the next 5 to 10 years now. BUT that NEXT ZR1 and Zora....will be a thrilling beast of a ride.

Kind of hard to remember the good things when they're so overshadowed by the horrible. No one here denies the cool things like HEMIS, 'Cats, TRX, Trackhawks, wheelies, etc etc etc but when you have to put out a statement of WHY you're killing anything worthy of excitement that takes longer to explain than what you're actually there for (Kuniskis telling us how much they've lost/paid out for credits) then it consumes any excitement. The Demon was ONLY done to prayerfully hype the brand high enough in hopes of people doing what you're doing now and "remembering the good times" before they turn to trash. If they weren't making the move to priority EV production, not manufacturing a V8 for anything, and not having one single performance car after nearly 2 decades of them, the Demon would've never saw the light of day. That's why they didn't give a flying shot dealers were screwing "The Brotherhood" until it got national press an active duty Marine was shafted and only THEN did Tim Kuniskis lift a finger. But ONLY for that particular case. Not the other 3,299 cars that went over sticker with ADM lugnuts for $99,999.

Man, in 6 years Dodge/Chrysler has killed the Viper, Challenger, Charger, 300, Ram TRX(ALL v8 Rams, Jeep Trackhawk (ALL v8 Jeeps) and what did they give us? One car 98% of their customers can't afford, an import style inline 6 TT that will inevitably have myriad issues when they've claimed the American Muscle crown for decades, and just a whooole lot of uncertainty. If I were in the market for another toy I'd go to Ford and I cry saying that lol. At least they're innovative and kept trying. They were also business savvy to build new models to offset their carbon footprint so they could CONTINUE to build a muscle/pony car. GM is just as guilty killing the Camaro, but Dodge now holds the crown of weakness and mediocrity.

​@@GoatPilot04yup, the old chrysler/dodge died years ago...stellantis is crap...and they keep crapping on their customers

​@@GoatPilot04you are so right my friend, very well put...

@@jeffrey501green Well, unfortunately it's the truth and saddens me. The Demon, and Kuniskis being brought in was NOTHING but a marketing ploy, proactive CYA and CRISIS MANAGEMENT. Demon and Kuniskis was eye candy and smooth talk to get your eye off the ball. Just ask yourself this...would something like the Demon, a car leaps above the Hellcat (any flavor and it was comparable to GMs and Fords hottest engine so it had market competition thus it was a good move), ever have been made if they weren't going to gut the companies catalog and remove not just EVERY performance model and V8, but 3 entire models regardless of engine and emissions output? No. Hell no. The Demon, as awesome as it is, because it is bad as hell, was a way to buy some favor from Dodge fans in hopes it would last until they figure their messy shit out and bow before the EPA. On the other hand, IMAGINE, if Dodge, GM, & Ford got together and made a plan to tell the EPA to shove it. Well shut down nationwide production of every domestic car in the country, and we're not paying these ridiculous "fines" anymore for you to then donate them via subsidies to BS green companies that embezzlement and waste it then close shop! They had power together and could've lobbied together to stop this absurd push that will NEVERRRRR make its deadline. EVs ARE the future. Even car guys with half a brain see that. But you can't forcefully create an industry and supporting infrastructure in 5 or 10 years. Implement that over 20-25 and gives us a valid plan and maybe we'd support it. But there's no common sense in DC. On EITHER SIDE, red or blue.

Funny, bur true....

Agreed 100% brother

Oh man! You’re old😂

Yep, this is what happens when you vote Democrat.

Smart man brother

@@CJColvin Thanks Bro.

@thullraven1 You're welcome brother, we have a 2023 Dodge Charger RT Scat Pack Widebody with a 392 Hemi V8 in it with 485 HP and 475 Ibs of Torque and man its a beast.

The global reset eco terrorist left hates these cars and the people who drive them.

Exactly mate

The hornet is a pos failure, dodge is doomed...

Dodge is headed for Bankruptcy

Ita not only butt ugly its a snail...

Yip moving on also had been a dodge guy for over 55 years..

Good for you sir ! Wtg man !!

@@jeffnoob8448 I'm 68 and a semi-retired auto mechanic. Never thought I'd ever own a Dodge, but I'd had my fill with GM.Under 850 miles on my Charger GT PLUS and am loving it!

There is a rumor they are actually developing a new HEMI V8 engine. I don't think it will be supercharged or anything like that but it would be maybe something like the 5.7 HEMI in a way with all new technology inside it.

They're probably rethinking the electrification after slow sales of other EVs

They’ve got nothing.

So what that means is 2024 calendar year is just the whorenet and oldrango in Dodge’s lineup?

charger and challenger production moving to Windsor Assembly plant.Jeep Compass coming to Brampton.Sad news.

Exactly mate

The wife works for Stellantis and she said the challenger is no more with nothing in the works. The new Charger will be it going forward.

Dodge 💀

Me too! I have a 2020 F8 Green 1320 w/ 12k miles.

I have a 21 1320 black with 19k

6.4 is a great engine in a truck....has the redeye block...

Right on buddy!!

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Yep you got it brother