It's Okay to Like Bayformers 

For any one who says CGI effects in films is easy. Just remember that the first computers they try to animate devastator from revenge of the fallen on all combusted trying to render him

Despite what the fan base wants you to believe the 2007 film did more good than harm, the movie revolutionised the transformers franchise by introducing new concepts that would later be staples in the franchise, like introducing the Allspark, bringing Bumblebee back to the spotlight, and bringing back Peter Cullen to reprise Optimus Prime

I still stand by the fact that the first 2007 Transformers movie was actually a pretty damn good movie and it even got Optimus’ character right first and foremost.

Not only do I love these films, they gave me something no other franchise has done so well. They really got my best friend to start to really like Transformers. I also like how proud Bay is to have gotten a whole new group of people, a new generation. When I first watched the 2007 movie I fell in love. I knew these characters from G1, and was happy to have unique, new versions of my favourite bots, Optimus, Ratchet, Starscream, all on the big screen. Without these movies, I would’ve never watched Prime, Animated, Armada, the 86 movie, and even Cyberverse. I wouldn’t have gotten to know the wonderful group of people that love this franchise, from my friend that just started watching G1, to bigger RU-vidrs like Diamondbolt, PerspectiveEnd, Emperor Kumquat, Theorymus, and Paper Plane. Dispute not being the best person on the planet, the entire team behind these movies, actors, voice actors, Bay, the CGI animators and artists, and even the entire US military all worked together to bring Transformers back to the mainstream in a big way. For the sake of this whole fandom, I hope Rise of the Beasts brings myself, and new fans across the world, the same joy that Dark of the Moon did.

The soundtrack to TF 1 is genuinely awesome.

I loved them all from the moment they were released. Fear me.

Being a bayformer fan in the TF community does kinda suck because it feels like you almost can’t like the movies or search up anything about the movies without everyone bashing those said movies, so seeing interesting videos about the bay movies like cool info and theories is kinda hard to do because all you ever find is other TF fans bashing the movies, even when looking at videos about any TF media and shows that has nothing to do with the movies. I’m grateful to have any RU-vidrs that do talk about the movies that isn’t just “the bay movies bad” such as trantheories, even though it seems hard to find any RU-vidr that actually like the movies or talk interesting stuff about the movies that’s again not just “the movies are bad” and now I’m seeing people say ROTB will be like the bay films too.

man i wish i could meet Micheal Bay the guy really did made our childhood

The only Bayformer movie I even actively disliked was the last knight, and even then overtime I grew to accept it.

I have loved these since i was a child, my mind was blown by the cgi and just how realistic it looks. I'm glad that everyone is starting to see them as i do.

I'm heavily nostalgic towards the first 3 movies. As someone who was introduced to the series thanks to Cybertron, the first Bayformers film had me hyped because the concept of a live-action Optimus Prime made me nut my 8-year-old pants. Even if they have issues, I still have a good amount of respect for the Bayformers trilogy. Now AOE and TLK, absolute dogwater, and very little positives I could point out.

I wonder if the people who make hating Bayformers a key part of their personality will ever take this to heart. Probably not.

Very glad you brought up the human characters in these movies they're all so ridiculous It's fun

I grew up with Bayformers and i don't even care if it's nostalgia blind, i love all the movies (yes, that includes AOE and TLK)

“its ok to like bayformers" Yeah no shit!

Watching Dark of the Moon in a theater when I was a dumb little kid was the coolest shit ever

Here’s the brutal truth Stories might be okay but Bay’s “Transformers are digitally Masterpiece”. Underrated in many ways.

This is genuinely one of the best video essays I've ever seen on RU-vid about anything! This is some of the most objective and subjective look at the Transformers movies yet! Yes, we've all heard and we all know the flaws and shortcomings these movies have. It's all been said over and over and over again... But to have something new to say about these decade old movies and for it to come from such a genuine and authentic place is so eye opening to me. I grew up with the Michael Bay Transformers movies and if it wasn't for them I would've never become a fan of the franchise. As I grew up, I saw that the fanbase HATED these movies, calling them stupid, racist, dumb, NOT good Transformers movies yada-yada-yada... I was heartbroken! I was heartbroken that the same people who call themselves fans disliked the movies that made ME a fan. I started hating on them as well, I started seeing the flaws, started to really dislike the thing that made me love in the first place. I started watching the "REAL" Transformers media that "REAL" fans watched and loved. I liked them for the most part (G1, the 86 movie, Beast Wars) and I genuinely enjoyed them, believing that this is what Transformers is actually about. Now as I grew even older and finally got a grasp on how movies are made and how extremely difficult it is and more so creatively speaking, I think Michael Bay gave it his all! Yes, he wasn't "THE GUY" for the Transformers franchise, but these movies? These movies are his BABIES and he loves them very very much! He looked after them, he nurtured them, he LOVED them! And to know that his passion and love touched me on an emotional level when I was yonger and didn't know a lot about anything, just goes to show that he did something RIGHT!

I recently rewatched the first three movies after like 13 years form when I first watched them as a 5 year old and I'm ashamed to admit that I enjoyed them in a strange way. It might be nostalgia, but I was solidly entertained by the weird, juvenile and ridiculous over the top energy of both the action scenes and the human dialouge with some ironic enjoyment sprinkled in. Like I know they aren't high art and when I was enjoying myself watching the universally panned second one, it made me question myself if I'm plain stupid or have bad taste. Related to this when I was talking to a friend about recent movies we watched, me mentioning Dark of The Moon made me feel legitimately embarrassed. I'm glad that I now came to peace with enjoying low art turn your brain off movies and that I'm not the only one. Also they're pretty quotable and it's worth noting that when they came out, they introduced a new generation to the franchise wich included me, so that's something. Hope this brick of words from a foreign person is readable. In the end good video.

I've loved them ever since I watched the first one, and I will never stop loving them, sure they have a lot of problems and plot holes, but no matter what they will be one of my favorite franchises of all time.

I've always had a soft spot for the Micheal Bay films, I've been super nostalgic for them, and I still remember them to this day. As someone who experienced the 2010's, these movies were basically my intoduction to Transofrmers as a whole. Even though I'm not much of a Transformer guy anymore and I've shifted to new hobies and interests, I will never forget these movies. I have all of the films on DVD (Except for the BumbleBee movie, although Micheal Bay didn't direct that one if I remember correctly), and It's so I still have them on me. I'm mainly talking about the first three of Bayformer, since Those are the ones I mainly remember. Even then, I remember when AOE and TLK were brand new. I used to own some TLK shirts when I was younger. (Only one I specifically remember is an obvious "optimistic" pun). I remember being obsessed with Transformers made Lego around that time. (of course I DO own the Optimus lego set) For some reason, despite the hate for ROTF, I remember actually liking ROTF. In fact, dare I say, I remember it being my favorite of all the Bay films. While I understand if anyone is more nostalgic for the G1 era, these movies were part of my young childhood, and they remain in my memories.

I defend all of them except for The Last Knight. They are guilty pleasures, but the first one came out in the same year that my son was born. So the Bay-formers was a bonding experience between me and my son.

These movies are kind of like junk food to me. For the most part they’re bad and unhealthy, but at the same time they are very nostalgic and kind of fun to me. While they ain’t perfect, that I know very much, but I really do look fondly at them from time to time.

Aside from the all of their flaws, the one thing bayformers always gets right is the fucking music. By far the most underrated thing in cinema history. If I was the director for endgame and infinity war, I would have swapped out their entire score for the dotm soundtrack

Transformers fans love gatekeeping different transformers franchise

The fact that we got like 7 extremely high production films out of a godd*mn toy franchise is a miracle in itself, we gotta thank him for starting it

The making of these movies are amazing like as someone who didn’t like phase 4 of marvel most of the time at least I still watch the behind the scenes and I appreciate all of the work they make for theses movies and shows even if I don’t like them at all I can’t bring myself to hate them like a lot of others cause you can tell they put heart into them and the making of them puts a whole new perspective into them especially hearing about design the hero’s and cgi and practical effects of all of it these movies deserve to be considered how heart and hard work was put into them at least before saying it’s all terrible and stupid

Here what I think about each film. 2007: Okay ROTF: A guilty pleasure. DOTM: A good ending for the og trilogy. AOE: Pretty Good just has some missed potential. TLK: WTF!?

The reason i LOVED all 5 movies was alot simpler than anything you discussed; i love giant robots beating each other up. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Conceptually, yes. You can like the Bay films. But if I hear another Bay fan trying to ruin stuff because they love Bay so much, then I'm going to flip.

These movies and Transformers Animated were my childhood. The first three movies are good, (yes even ROTF imo, I remember loving it as a kid) AoE is okay and TLK made me braindead. But the first three hold a special place in my heart.

I’ll give bayverse transformers massive props for getting me into the franchise in the first place. Some of my earliest memories as a 5 yr old who learned how to pop a disc into the DVD player were watching tf 1 back to back with narnia. that love continued with tf prime and with every tf movie installment. Anyway I’m trans now

It was the first movie that introduced me to the Transformers as a kid. The Bayverse movies are really nostalgic to me as those were my favorite movies growing up. The visuals, the soundtrack, the characters, the action, and especially the toyline all got me into the wider Transformers franchise as a whole. Might have also influced me a lot, the Camaro became my dream car cause of the movie. Fast forward to now, I know now that these movies aren't perfect, and some might honestly not be that great (Last Knight being an example), but I still do love the movies, especially the original 3, and can't help but enjoy the movies and watch them whenever I get the chance.

I do love the bay verse movies, I will put them on as backround noise or something and get caught up in it because of how good the action is. And it always has me coming back for more

Great video! I loved your description of the skyscraper scene and how you narrate things XD

This franchise is unlike any other, and I love it

Of course, I love bayformers personally, except last knight of course. That movie frazzled my brain so damn much in terms of continuity it turned itself into a smelting pool of its own

I grew up with these films, and even liked AOE and TLK a significant amount. I'm really glad that you've made this video.

While the Bayverse movies legitimately have awful stuff such as how they treat the female characters and…the less said about the twins, the better, they do have great stuff such as the visual effects, characters such as Crosshairs and Hound, the action sequences, and characters such as Optimus shows that there’s legitimately great stories buried underneath the garbage. It’s been a mixed bag for me when it comes to these movies, but it doesn’t mean I’m gonna diss people who genuinely like these movies. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Maybe in another universe with better writing and more cohesion of the stories, these movies could’ve been more. 😔

I grew up with bayformers, I love most of the designs, it was like my g1.

One of the biggest things I loved about the Bayfilms is the crazy, outlandish and alien designs of the Transformers. When I was a kid, it caught my attention immediately because I loved (still do) aliens and humanoid aliens with distinct, mysterious cultures. I remember watching the Bayverse Transformers and completely teleporting to a different world, even if it made me very paranoid as a kid that a car on the road would randomly transform and blow something up. A big part of what did that is the crazy loud designs despite not being super colorful even though a lot of people don't like them. Some of my favorite designs are some of the most hated designs too, like the flying dorito, the unicycle robot women and robot Einstein. They're exciting and interesting. Over the years, I've come to love them more and more especially as the fandom moves towards this Return to G1 which gave me near immediate burnout when I knew what to expect. Even with RotB, there's only a few Transformers that I really want to see but I'm sure they won't get a lot of screen time, Pablo, Nightbird, Battletrap and Scourge are really the only ones I'm really curious about and/or want to see. When it comes to the live action, I have and always will love the first three Bayfilms. Anything after that, Bumblebee included, hasn't really done it for me since

Well, put man. But what I appreciated the most, is when you pointed out, not only how many practical effects the first three movies had, but that c.g.i. isn't even half the labor lacking cheat!

For everyone curious, a youtuber called Pointlesshub is making a review series where he reviews the Bayverse. It's a pretty entertaining review series and it feels fair to the Bayverse, both in its highs and in its lows.

What pisses me off that the animators for the auto bots are busting their asses to make every transformation, movement, and pose and people don’t like it for some particular reason…

"If you attack either side, you are a dipshit" That is so true!

Like it or not, they saved the franchise .

Dude reached Nirvana. No more words needed, wise words.

A plus that these films have is being consistent in the robot mode designs with changes happening when the story deemed it necessary. which is a thing that knight verse does not do.

Heavily agree with what you said in the beginning. Watching the behind the scenes footage of ‘07 Transformers movie made me love it even more.

The designs and transformations will always be cool.

I liked the first three transformers movies and I wish that it ended after dark of the moon. I kinda wish the original ending for the third movie wasn’t rewritten.

Always defended the first three, and continue to do so. The guy had passion, and actually done something new and interesting with a small little franchise, that prepelled it into worldwide fame!

Everyone has their own preferred flavor of cinematic junk food.

9:28 “titanfall player of the group” And I smiled

Name me one franchise that has a combination of these 17 things: Amazing action sequences, aesthetically pleasing sci-fi elements, funny comedy, hot sex appeal, attractive looking cars that can go fast, a large scale, amazing sound design, amazing visual design, nice songs and scores in its soundtracks, genre blending versatility on top of the action sci-fi elements, Transformers elements, characters with strong, unique, entertaining personalities that were sometimes relatable, emotional moments, romance factor, real life elements incorporated into their lore or just realism in general, high stakes and layered storytelling I love all 5 Bayformers films and I don't think any other movies comes close and I'm not apologizing for that, it hurts being in the minority but that wouldn't stop me from fighting for my love for these films against these cynics, much love to Michael Bay and everyone involved in the franchise, the fans, and this video, hope to see more love given to these movies in the future, they deserve it with all the ambition put into these films

I love TF1 and TF3. They are just fun to watch. And i knew how awesome the practical effects and stunts are but goddamn alot of this video is making me go "THAT WAS REAL?!?!". lol

If it wasn’t for bayformers I wouldn’t be a transformers fan.

I believe the general consisence is most like the first 3. A decent following for the 4th and everyone hates the 5th. And Bumblebee was a great step in the right direction just too small in scale but thats ok since it helped correct the mess of the 5th.

I WILL ADMIT I LOVE THE “BAYFORMERS” Too!!!! But no seriously I LOVE TRANSFORMERS THEY MEAN ALOT TO ME EVEN WHEN I WAS LITTLE!!! This is a franchise I have been completely invested not only by the toys but the franchise was so interesting! A very cool premise in my opinion, but then 2007 came along and Transformers got its first live action movie!!!! I ABSOLUTELY STILL LOVE TRANSFORMERS (2007), it’s so NOSTALGIC!!!! CGI STILL HOLDS UP 16 YEARS LATER, SOUNDTRACK IS STILL AMAZING!!!!!! I actually had the chance to see this movie in theaters last year to celebrate its 15th anniversary and had a really good time!!!! Enjoying every moment!!!!! 2 is ok, LOVE THE INTRO SHANGHAI BATTLE SEQUENCE, FOREST BATTLE IS AMAZING, DEVASTATOR COMBINING ( minus the adult joke in that like really… was that necessary) 3 IS AMAZING!!!! 4 IS OK, DINOBOTS ALL THE WAY!!!!!! 5 is terrible Bumblebee restored my faith to the Transformers franchise, G1!!!!!!

The first 2007 movie was sick

Thank you for putting out there that people shouldn’t be bullied for liking these movies or seen as stupid. I know many people my age could relate to this when they were younger but telling people they were into transformers was always such a hard thing to do and often was just looked down upon or childish. I recall making the unfortunate mistake of telling fellow classmates about my transformers review channel in middle school and that’s when bullying started. And yet oddly enough through all of that, I just kept moving along and making videos and enjoying the franchise I loved because the community around it was always as eager as me to share their excitement for it. I think that says a lot about how much these people cared, and how it inspired them to push forward despite what others may think.:.

Shia Labeouf holds that trilogy together really.

Obviously. Anyone who says you can't enjoy a certain continuity should go offline. Unless it's Kiss Players, then you should be bullied appropriately.

i love bayformer transformers, the first one he made was the first time i was introduced to robots, see those big ass robot’s compared to Sam and Mikaela blew my little mind, the first movie will always have a soft spot in my heart, i didn’t like the second one that much but i enjoyed the fighting scenes as a kid a lot, same with dotm, the last hour of that movie was insane and I loved it as a child, and when age of extinction came out i was excited because i just loved transformers, and i watched the last knigbt and i wouldnt say i enjoyed but the first time watching it still gave me that childlike feeling of transformers 2007, i cant really ever see myself bashing these movies, i guess im a little bias

What i love is how alien the transformers in the movies are, and how the Decepticons and Autobots distinguish themselves based on their ideologies. Ofc the decepticons have unreadable, insectoid and even horrifying faces, because thats what they are and they dont care to hide their true selves, unlike the Autobots, who changed their faces to look humanoid and assimilate themselves with human culture to show that they are not here to harm us. Only when they were threatening humans would they speak English (except Nitro zeus, who wants Enriques wife to know he says hi), while the Autobots never spoke cybertronian while on screen. They have tattoos, which implies art and creativity on Cybertron, smth we dont see a lot in most transformers media that isnt the comics. I just love it all, dont get me started on how all the minicons with the Decepticons are clearly much more appreciated than the ones with the Autobots, and also how ravage is a giant 7 ft kitty i-

I see you've taken the Michael BAYSED pill.

Gonna just paste this comment I made on a video about Bayverse Optimus because I feel it's relevant here: 'Yeeaaah, G1 fans can cry about his characterization all they want- I cry about it a lot too -but the fact of the matter is, it's thanks to this guy that Transformers got so much life breathed into it's mainstream presence. War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron, Prime, Bumblebee, Devastation, all the stuff that's come out in recent years that Transformers fans love? Yeah, we have Murder Prime to thank for it. Watching Optimus shred Deceptions in a summer block busting trilogy is what reignited the average joe's interest in Transformers, not Able Lincoln Optimus preaching about peace and playing basket ball. (Stuff that I love, don't get me wrong) People saw Bay's Optimus and went "Damn, this Transformers stuff is pretty cool. Let's invest our time, interest and money into it". The guy deserves respect for that much, mane.' In addition, I'll also add to it by saying that the first Michael Bay Transformers movie was genuinely a good film. Not perfect, but more earnest and source-accurate than people give it credit for. It even has a decent score on Metacritic. It had incredible FX for the time that still hold up now, a fun and terrifying take on Decepticons- That admittedly got stale as more and more sequels got shat out -and a *very* accurate interpretation of Optimus Prime who put peace first unless humans were in danger. The franchise didn't go down hill until the sequels, starting with Revenge of the Fallen. If you hate the first one... I think you need to tone down the nostalgia bias and give it another chance, man. If you disagree tho, you disagree. I'm not trynna pick any fights here, I swear.

This is probably the first time I've heard Michael Bay speak. No hate towards him, but I honestly didn't think he'd sound like that, he's more nasally than I expected.

I was 7 when the first transformers movie came out. I grew up with the bay verse and I enjoy every film, even ROTF and TLK! These films are just really fun to watch and the soundtracks are all incredible (my favorite ost being tlk). The balance of humor and seriousness feels just right. The jokes don't feel too cheesy and are usually at least entertaining. I love most of the human characters. Sam is my favorite, his parents are f***ing hilarious too (except for when sams mom was high at his college that was cringy i aint gonna lie). Simmons is such a fun character, and the military scenes in the first 3 movies are incredible. I love how the humans can actually fight back and get progressively better over the course of the movies. The CGI is the best I've ever seen. The fact that I'm able to immerse myself in these films and not feel any sort of uncanny valley effect is insane. I can go on and on about these films. I really enjoy them despite them being terrible in a lot of ways.

Controversial opinion… I think the bayformers designs are actually super good… at least 1-3 where you could tell they actually transformed…

Every critic (especially on RU-vid) acts like they only have the highest and most exquisite taste in film, but the fact is people can enjoy action films with big explosions, impressive CGI that holds up after all these years, and practical effects that could've EASILY been done in a CGI sound set and most likely would have if these were made today (not a dig against ROTB, I'm excited for that movie, and I can't wait to see it). But for people to act like these are a sin against cinema, or that this hurts the Transformers franchise... clearly not true. These movies made billions of dollars, it revitalized the Transformers franchise when it was at its lowest point, and breathed new life into it, as well as bringing in so many new fans. They aren't perfect, I agree, and I'm not saying you can't criticize them or say why you personally dislike them, and Bay is not the ultimate TF fan, but at the same time, he still gave us thrill-rides to watch in theaters every few Summers, and to this day has inspired many new fans with their stop motion series to make their own stories, whether based on the film continuity, or just their own thing. And they're growing up to become filmmakers, who may very well make their own films for us to see in theaters one day. Maybe future Transformers filmmakers.

The core robot cast of the original trilogy (Ratchet, Ironhide etc;) always felt very memorable and iconic. They usually served a purpose beyond looking cool. I genuinely don’t know what purpose Crosshairs or Hound serve in the later instalments.

The hardest part for me is to tell others that I like all of the first 4 bayformers movies more than the bumblebee movie, just find them more entertaining

Rotf is my favorite bayformers movie it doesn't deserve the hate. Its flawed but far from the worst. The worst is definitely the Last Knight its just so boring.

I think the general consensus is that the first one is a good fun summer action movie. It even had great word-of-mouth during its release.

The only reason why I watch Transformers and love it it because of the Autobots and Decepticons fighting

This is actually the one i grew up with. I really dont know why people loved the Gen 1 designs. I really liked the bayformers design, especially soundwave

Thank you for making this video! The bayverse was the introduction to this franchise! Sure sometimes robot get a little screentime and so on. But even as a kid, I don't really care, I just liked the explosion, the actions, and more! I especially loved how Optimus fucking murder decepticons with no remorss. Without theese movies , I will never ever know many about Transformers like shows, games, etc. Hopefully, ROTB can revive this movie franchise in an awesome way!

I didn’t need you to tell me this plane. I’ve been gladly loving this shit since day one

I have never seen any of the transformers movie’s until a few weeks ago when I decided to watch all of five of them in a row and I actually really liked them

My favourite was always the first one. Third has good battles, 2 has sideswipe. And that's it for me Now, the whole deconstruction of the dotm skyscraper scene gave me a new love for that scene

My alltime favorite film series is this and my favorite is the Last Knight. You can never change my mind.

the thing i actually enjoy about the bay films is they actually feel like the original show

They just hated Michael Bay's movies because thay are so perfect.

Crybaby geewunners were the ones complaining. The bay films were made to be blockbusters and most of them succeeded in just that. You want good story? Read IDW. The movies were awesome and I'll always stand by that. I don't need anyone telling me its okay to love them. I do so proudly.

3:15 This is why I watch bonus features before and after movies. I want to see the dedication out into the film and how much the actors and crew enjoyed doing their job. Are they miserable, are they having fun, is the reunion fun for the og actors? I can never bring myself to hate movies because of the bonus features showing me how much love they put into it. It’s why I can never really hate any movie shown to me. Except for Twilight and Wish, those movies can burn in hell.

They're good movies with bad stories but great vibes to the characters and story to give them that mainstream Hollywood appeal. Not what I look for in transformers movies, or transformers stories and characters in general, but they certainly made Transformers at least be a bigger known franchise. It's a lot like what people view as the worst of Snyderverse, movies that conflict with what the fanbase want for their own ideal movie franchise over time once the honeymoon period is down. But the engagement and craft to those movies are PEAK.

I've never seen a sane G1 fan, never seen a toxic Bayfan. Legit it's insane how despite making 3+ billion from the general audience, the small percentage of the internet somehow has a larger voice at the point where fun isn't allowed.

15:05 Finally someone says it

Yes, why wouldn't it be okay to like a movie? Because what society says should dictate my tastes?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's never okay to attack anyone for something they enjoy and love it.

Honestly I love these movies and always have. They may not be G1 accurate, storyline may fall apart a bit but I still enjoyed them. The designs, the detail of each bot, the battles! Love them all. I love the stories aswell, the later films still have good stories on their own.

I have seen all these movies more than 3 times. Love all of them

I got a DVD of the first transformers film. Watching the behind the scenes was like seeing the Burj Khalifa of filmmaking as a kid to the point where I literally got curious if an actor died on set because of how dangerous the practical effects were. I think I have never seen an action movie that can compete to it besides John Wick. And in that last portion, Michael bay was right. I rewatched the first two (Soon i'll rewatch 3 and 4) as an adult. And damn do they still make me smile regardless of both critic and youtube hate the sequels received! Not to mention being the sole movie series responsible for brining back Transformers from dying obscurity. I don't know if I would ever watch transformers armada or animated series because studio execs never gave a greenlight to make the film. I don't know if I'll ever buy an action figure of both optimus and megatron as a kid. Heck call this conspiratiorial connection. But this movie series seems to have born my favoritism of really obscure characters. Like Braw/Devastator (The tank, not the construction abomination with wrecking balls for testes) and Blackout. And countless unpopular characters outside transformers media

Honestly I've always felt nostalgic for the Bayformers films (but I wouldn't call it the best Transformers content--that would go to TFA). It wasn't always a hit, but when it was, it was ON POINT. I also think the spectacle--at least in the first 3 films anyways--was always masterfully done and sure, the designs weren't the greatest, but hot DAMN did the CGI look good. There's just a lot of shots in the Transformers films that look like absolute eye candy (the car shots were what made me absolutely love vehicle modes for the Transformers). And again, action scenes were fire. The forest battle in 2, Chicago in 3, Mission City in 1--they were stellar. (Also the first film shared so much with Animated and that was so FUCKING COOL. Transformers continuities where the Autobots are portrayed as underdogs and more like civilians against Military is cool as hell)

I was growing up in the Armada, energon, cybertron era so I didn't care at all that the characters I knew looked way different because they did every few years. I loved the first 3 movies, especially the first one. I don't even think 4 and 5 are bad, just not as good as 1-3. I mean you get the robots in disguise in the first movie, you get the military reaction to them in the second while trying to hide from the general public, and then the whole world's reaction in 3. The transformers look so damn good and so does the rest of the movie. The plots are fun and engaging. If they were really bad then people just wouldn't talk about them anymore but people still are.

I love all 7 of the Transformers even if Bumblebee's film is not called Transformers. All those films has some of the best fights. Love seeing Optimus Prime always on Screen. He will forever be my favorite in the Transformers Universe.

2007 and DOTM are both amazing in my opinion. Sure, they may not be fine art, by they are so spectacular, memorable and just entertaining, that I can't help adoring them. This may seem crazy, but I'd put both of them in my top 10 movies of all time. ROTF and AOE are also underrated and at least okay in my eyes. TLK is pretty terrible, but even it has some redeeming qualities.

I genuinely really like the 2007 movie. And while I don’t like the others, they still have great scenes, like Prime vs Megatron, Starscream, and Grindor, and as you said, the building scene from DotM.

I honestly grew up with these movies. They left a impact on me so much it made me love Robots and Mecha, and honestly even with the reputation of the 5th film. I wished this series continued, this was Bay's child that is now left unattended. I liked bumblebee and ROTB but they don't feel special to me than what the bayverse did. I really do hope they find a way to end the bayverse with 1 more film. I don't care if its made by another producer or they redo the designs, just end it with a bang that would make all the films a classic to watch.