As a retired POLSA, Police Search Adviser, I can categorically say, not strange at all. There is no more difficult and complex task to undertake than to find a human being in open terrain. The factors are many. Type of terrain, weather, size of area, topographical features, flora, fauna, water, amount of daylight. I could go on but you get the picture. This kind of half informed journalistic claptrap doesn't help anyone or anything. Please refrain from it as it just makes you look stupid.
@@louiseosaur Did you read any of what this person commented? You seem quite agitated. If you can’t understand the challenges professionals face in finding a body, it seems you’re not seeking real understanding. Instead, it looks like you're repeating irrelevant remarks.
@@i_kissed_a_pixie1537 Yes I did read it. The challenges you claim the Police were facing are irrelevant. They found him 4 weeks on irrespective of those ''challenges'' so why didn't they do that at the beginning. Also reportedly the searches were being scaled back. That seems to contradict the ''it was too challenging'' argument. 4 weeks suggests they overlooked him not because it was too challenging. They never cared about finding Jay.
Some of the comments below are ignorant. The terrain in question is steep, extremely rocky with heavy vegetation, ravines and crevices. It is a tribute to the courage and tenaciousness of the Civil Guard rescue teams that they found him at all.
It definitely is not strange they took so long to find jay slater. If one has ever been to the Masca region, one would know that. Very rugged terrain, some of it extremely difficult to access. Guardia Civil should not be being trashed like this
what is truly ignorant is this absurd assumption that a difficult terrain hinders the discovery of a human body. dogs can follow a human scent to the point it falls off the edge. the question you need to ask yourself is why the Guardia Civil refused to search in this way.
@@duncansmith7562 "what is truly ignorant is this absurd assumption that a difficult terrain hinders the discovery of a human body." That comment merely demonstrates to all that anything else you say should also be ignored.
@Auditing_Bullsiht your clearly uninformed. Even reports try to suggest he tried climbing the hill to see the shoreline so it is a giant hill. Some guy even attempted to walk to where the phone pinged from the air bnb and posted the video online. It’s a large rocky incline full of tall thick plants and nettles. It’s simply not logical for a frail kid who does not know the terrain to attempt to climb that hill
@@noeticdon2520 if your desperate for food or water you’d stop a car on the road not attempt to hike into uncharted mountains. Regardless, I’ve been told by people that have lived in Tenerife that if you cross the wrong people over there you either end up in the waters or the rocky hills.
You ever spent time looking for a body? No? I have, in a small village i live in. A chap walked into the sea 2 years ago never to be seen again. We spent about 4 weeks searching for him, eventually his body was found. And the thing that f'd off all of us was the people complaining it took too long. Stfu unless you have first hand experience with stuff like this. I quit being a rescuer after this as it made me realise people do not deserve rescuing, and they certainly do not appreciate it.
I have been to masca numerous times and it's a credit to the guardian civil that they found him at all. You have no place commenting unless you have been there and seen with your own eyes how dangerous and inaccessible the terrain is
and if I have been there, and I compare it to where I live in the Pyrenees and tell you that for dogs to find a human body in the Masca Gorge or Barranco de Juan Lopez is a walk in the park compared to the Pyrenees, what would you say?
@@stuartfaulkner as I said, for dogs to locate a body at the bottom of a ravine is a piece of cake. it's what they are trained to do. you confuse locating a dead human with retrieving the body of a dead human. it's a cover up. if you tried tomorrow morning to disappear without trace in the Masca Gorge you couldn't do it, unless the Guardia Civil wanted to fail to find you.
When I was burgled in 2019, they took _everything_ in the house and also the car. They even ransacked the kids’ rooms- just horrible. It was a really traumatic experience and one that was completely surreal. I tried to follow up on progress with the police as there was cctv. I was told by the police that burglaries are just not a priority. They don’t even look into it! It’s appalling. People don’t realise how devastating burglaries can be. Not an experience I’d wish on anyone!
True. My sister stole everything from my house and they asked if I had receipts. I actually did coz I bought everything online but surely by going to her house they'd find all my stuff there but no, they never even talked to her and there was cctv showing her loading the car up with my stuff.
the terrain in the Alps and Pyrenees is same, but worse, yet missing people are found within hours. the search conditions were perfect in Tenerife, every day, perfect weather and lots of daylight.
@@TraceyGillingham-t3u right, but in the Pyrenees there is no corrupt Guardia Civil or Mossos d'Esquadra supervising everything, like there is in Tenerife. Also, in the Pyrenees, help is given by the CRS, because unlike the Guardia Civil in Tenerife, getting international help is appreciated in the Pyrenees.
No more strange than parents that went out to a restaurant abroad and left children unattended, and social services did not remove the other children from their care...
Haha and that’s the only case you know of that being in public plenty of other parents didn’t have their kids removed either because hey guess what there’s a lot more to it than that. More uneducated people with unsupervised access to keyboards.
This lad was hungover /drunk … Spanish police do things their way,English people shouldn’t try n dictate how they do things!!! The poor guy was disoriented and fell … end of story!!! 🤦🏼♂️
You’ll probably find that most police forces in most countries operate in much the same way. Search the places where you’re more likely going to find an alive person and then when they’re statistically dead or sadly in this case obviously dead. Then you’re going to search the places where you’re most likely going to find a body.
WHAT MADE HIM GO INTO THAT DENSE TERRAIN IS THE QUESTION . ALL A PERSON HAS TO DO IN HIS SITUATION IS SIT DOWN , TAKE A DRINK AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUS. HE WAS AT THE BUS STOP SO WHY DID HE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SO STUPID . IN FACT WHY WAS HE UP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH 2 IFFY DUDES , AS SOON AS THEY GOT THERE HE WANTED TO LEAVE , WHY . AND WHY THE URGENCY TO LEAVE ASAP. JUST WAIT FOR THE BUS IS ALL HE HAD TO DO .RED FLAG HERE
Excactly, the British Press is rudeless, and sitting there in shirt an blazer jacket having no clue how things work in the real World! It is a very very dangerous thing to make critic of other countries, especially Spain/ canarie Island. The repuptation of UK citizens are not the best Down here with the locals, and making an effort to ruin the work og military (guarda civil has no Press meetings what so ever , and do not want to listen to an half drunk Old english man babbling around in his studio having to much time on his hand ) To make these alligations does not help UK-citizens in any spanish area what so ever! Tourists visits their country as guests, who is to blame in Tenerife when drunk or drug related persons go missing? Not eigther local police/ guarda civil wich is military / neigther any special trained dog rescue team! I is stupid choise / or Force wich makes these cases, not anything to blame the police for! They all special training working and searching in these rough areas! Because tourists makes bad choises? Lets see the persons making the critics do that work! It is nothing less than rude and ignorant to make these claims, shame on him to claim police did not do their work! jay made some “ very sad teenager crazy choises” could not seethe consequenses , and in the end lost direction! WHO is to blame here? That is NOT the police ! Jay is found, a lot of people missing are never found!
@@therealakkherself1296 Those "journalists" are the worst. It's like the "his clothes were near the body" thing... The official statement from Monday clearly said "Jay's clothes and belongings were WITH the [unidentified] body", but those speculation-mongers decided to twist those words and turn "with the body" into "near the body", so people would assume Jay's body was naked, which automatically would lead to murd3r theories.
@@georgezee5173 excactly! These people seems both ignorant , talking about subject They don’t know anything about , and criticizing the Tenerife guarda civil (military, wich has no obligations as far as pressmeetings) the hardworking local police and mountain rescue /front workers! It is nothing less than unapproiate , discusting and rude ( hope you understand, as English is not my first language , sorry)
The people who don’t understand the terrain he was found in and the reason it took so long to find him are the same as flat earthers who don’t understand how big the earth is, it took so long because it’s difficult terrain to search ffs it’s not a conspiracy 🤦♀️
A young person near my town recently. Missing for 2 weeks nearly,in a frequently used coastal area. Easy access, not difficult terrain. Sadly found deceased. As I understand it the area Slater disappeared in is absolutely treacherous. Stop criticising the Spanish police and search teams.
@@duncansmith7562 The Spanish Gardia had not stopped searching they just did not let on they were still searching because of all the BS that was being said and woven. This kid if he was not in trouble could have walked down the road and people would have stopped and given him a lift or the bus is every hour but this kid decides to go up the mountains instead of down towards the sea
@@kateb8570 just keeping cards to their chest! It shows the moral of these ignorant selfproclaimed “i know better” types, who don’t even know what it is all about ! Shame on them sitting there in the studio!
Police cover up as underworld involved . He was done in and dumped up there . Or would he randomly go trekking in dangerous territory after partying for 3 days ? Come one .
Living here in Tenerife, the mountain climbers, the guarda civil and the rescue team , really did all They where able to do! Some are even never ever found. It is a Big Island very Big areas with mountains, clifts, ravines , vulcanic sand and harsh terrain and desert like areas. To point fingers at the people who has the most experience on the Island! To put brits there, it would have result in more dead people lying around!
Glad to see someone, with experience of the island, speaking out in defense of the Guardia Civil and the Policia Nacional who conducted the search jointly. I live in mainland Spain and know from first hand experience of a missing person search how committed they are to locate the person, and how they do update family members regularly. As an aside to all the criticism of these agencies, what was the Foreign Office doing? Again, from personal experience I know them to be very helpful, constructive and supportive. No mention of them, was there?
Re the terrible statistics about burglaries, my home was burgled before Christmas. The thieves faces were clearly seen on CCTV as was their actions of entering and leaving my home. I was given a crime number and never heard anything again. For context, I am a solo parent and carer to my son who has a rare genetic brain disorder. I do not have a lot of money and I saved for half the year to get him christmas gifts. They were stolen while we slept upstairs. It left us both scared and violated and completely let down by the police.
Jeeez the Spanish Guardia are not UK.. they have their reasons for behaving they did. Sometimes they never find missing people so 4 weeks isn’t that long.
I was victim of a hit an run. my van was destroyed and the stolen car who was used to destroy it was parked 2 streets away still with my van paint on it. The police didn’t come. I wasted a full day reposting it because the only police still opened to the public was 10 miles away. CCtV footages are hell to get hold of and police can’t be bothered… Why report ?? Waste of energy. Anyway. I left uk now. Too dangerous
It's true the police focus has changed. I had a crash in 2009 due to having an epileptic seizure. I woke up with my car on its side in the middle of the motorway. I was charged with driving without due care. My car which was supposed to have hit a woman's car "several times" on the side had no scrape marks on the side of the impact. In fact the front wing had been pushed foward and up from an impact point INSIDE THE WHEEL WELL. Something that was impossible unless my car had been the one hit from the side and flipped onto it's side. When it eventually got to court the jury decided I was INNOCENT OF ALL CHARGES and should never have been charged in the first place. I believe that the police who attended the accident wanted to blame someone for the time it took for the major traffic jam to be concluded. Because I was unable to say what had happened they targeted me Of the 5 witness statements read out in court; only one got my car colour and type right, ine said they were following me for 3 junctions BEFORE I jioned the motorway, one had me joining 1 junction too early and claimed I didn't leave the fast lane, one had me doing acrobatic moves in my car such as jumping crash barriers dropping 6 foot heights without damaging the car veering through 5 lanes of traffic into an non existent hard shoulder, then we have the statement if the "injured" woman I supposed to have hit; she stated I bounced off her car several times (without leaving any paint scrapings on the outside of the wing at all! She claimed to have whiplash but I heard the emergency rooom doctor state she had a sore neck because a previous neck injury she had, was irritated, she presented a private medical report to the injury court asking that the NHS report not be used, I told my insurers what I had heard. My insurers presented the evidence of the NHS report and a proficient crash investigation. Her case was thrown out as false on 2 counts a fake injury report and no evidence of impact by my car on her hers. The final witness statement was from a lorry driver who was driving alongside my car, the right car type and colour, he stated he saw my appearing drunk or asleep at the wheel and talking about it with his drivers mate. The police chose to prosecute me with all the evidence pointing at the cause being medical and not due to negligent or dangerous driving. At the same time the same police force were ignoring the reports of the plight of children being abused in Rochdale. So that is an example of policeing in the 21st century, ignoring a cluster of crimes against children in order to prosecute a civil servant who has been the victim of a crash caused by a medical condition, with 5 whotness statements no 2 of which agree in the facts, one of which is clearly a fantasy and another is a statement that runs contorary to all evidence visible at the scene. The government report on what happened that the Rochdale abuse cases were ignored stated that GMP was too concerned with traffic crime and treft to bother with serious offences. Too concerned with NOT LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE but choosing to prosecute on Ire and an "easy" target.
Why was Ayub Quassim let go? He was the cause of Jays death. If Jay hadnt have travelled half way across the island to stay at this guys air bnb (which he booked under a false name) Jay would still be alive. We want to know why Jay travelled to his air bnb. What was the nature of their business?
In my opinion jay was scared big time hence fleeing the route he took, id be talking to those two guys from uk still it just dont make sense at all, and seriously the poilce in spain dont give a hoot about the english i mean weve destroyed there island with terrible behaviour etc so dont expect so much the world has become a very shallow place very unfortunately, i would just want to know why jay decided tk take this route, to me its not normal behaviour even leaving his friends to go back with total strangers is weird rip jay x
Absolutely he wasn't missing he wasn't dead but on the run from something the question still remains why did he fear for his life that he could not turn back also the things his mum said
The body was placed the night before it's been said . A youtuber was woken in the middle of the night due to dogs and goats going mad . He got up and recorded what was happing out side lights in the area jay was found disturbing the dogs and goats neighbours looking out too.
Kevin , you are un-real , and the little side kick with you . Who used to be the police I’ve lived out there , the terrain is terrible !! They did a great job finding that boy . Lie , seriously !! The Spanish police will not put up with all this crap of everyone being out there . Thinking they know what happened Plus ex police guy , they did bring specialist climbers in . Fool !! The bottom line is , thank god for his family have him back . His mother was getting messages we have your boy , you will never see him again . Trolls need to be dealt with!! . Kevin saying the family are upset . No your upset Kevin when your pet dies . They have lost their son , it’s devastating, heart breaking . Take it from me , my son was killed it’s heartbreaking . This family are ruined !!! Sleep well young Jay . God bless🙏
Trouble is it's down to the government not putting money in to the UK and haven't for years every thing in the UK has gone to crap and going to get worse 😡🤬
Only time will tell once the body is examined so for now nobody doesn't have a clue 🤷🏾♂️ whether it was an accident I'm sure there is more to this story
This guy looks like someone off the league of Gentlemen, “ It’s strange they took so long to find him?” How long did it take to find a woman who went missing next to a river leaving her mobile phone behind? “ She was found by a dog walker about eight yards from the scene. Maybe the British police were involved in Tenerife?
Wiltshire Police have been under special measures for the past 2 years, and any victim that has been let down during this time, become a victim of the failing police force also.
Dissapointing comments about it Jay Slater, you clearly didn’t update your facts before making and posting this video because they did call in a specialist team to help find him.
It's not so strange it took them that long because if he slipped down a sheer cliff into deep tangled bushes he woulda been very hard to spot they guys were using machetes to chop their way through the paths at places and it's all bush at bottom off those cliffs then there's the online shxte people were saying happened so that would have set them back to look in places he wasn't even near..
Burglaries is one area. Check out financial cross border (England & Spain) inheritance financial theft siblings have done using their GSMs and computer devices etc. They live in Gloucestershire and Cheltenham area. Very sad police authorities in England and Spain did NOT actively liaise and communicate earlier to find Jay Slater. Many 'open' failed unknowns.' Possible that Jay's body is 'later' placed there. Something stinks. In parks and remote places islands, and cafés should place GSM phone charging stations and at the charging stations have an emergency number persons can immediately activate.
Another question I have for everyone... Jay had a phone which clearly gave his location... there was also a cafe in the village... he spoke to the owner.. there were also hikers around & a clear wide path that you can see when the searchers are walking down it... Jay's movements taking off into the undergrowth & ending up in a ravine rather than either sticking to the road or the footpath don't make any sense.. unless he was trying to get away from someone.. likewise if his last location was next to the buildings.. he could have sat there in the shade to rest if he was hot & thirsty & injured .. why was he not found the 1st day when he was reported lost when he was reportedly still alive... even why does the body look like he's still alive when he's been airlifted... we may never know the truth.. since evidently if they were all part of a gang dealing drugs & he was robbed then he robbed someone else & got into trouble... messages were sent to the mum saying he'd been kidnapped & owed money etc. Who knows what really went on..
The kid had been partying, on drugs and booze for 3 days. When he left Masca his mind still wasn't working correctly. He was a fool to leave Masca without his cell phone fully charged. He had the opportunity to charge it and to wait for one of the men to drive him back to his apartment.
That body that is lifted up is not someone who has been missing 4 wks and badly decomposed! And if you zoom in the arm moves by ITSELF!!! Slow the video down and look at it! And it has stripes on the trousers! As well as a helmet!! Something isn’t right!!💯💯💯
Yes. They were putting undue pressure on a search for a dead body which would have significantly interfered with any procedures and could have endangered more people.
What brits forget is parts of Spain are wild and rugged. I doubt if the UK police would have found him in that area. I have walked down the ravine to the sea and its walking through a jungle.
I reckon he's nicked a watch from the air BnB blokes, legged it the opposite direction thinking they won't follow him that way, tried to stay off the road and ended up going head first over a cliff. Hard to feel sorry for him if that's the case.
Disculpe pero ustedes son unos malagradecidos / la policía hizo un despliegue gigantesco para encontrar este joven . No hay crimen , el joven tomó una mala decisión y les aseguro que iba bajo efectos de sustancias
I sympathize with this boy and his family. What triggers curiosity is that I see there are a lot of youtube news coverage about him now with his pretty face on thumbnails and it automatically comes to mind, if it was a dark skin spanish guy or a brown color indian or a black color African guy, and all not fitted within the so called handsome face criteria that we all have made, like the face of this guy, would those faces would have been on so many news media now as much as this cute face is now? Would their body, soul, pains and death now could have been respected to be part of continuous news and talk and sympathy like this one? Would those faces trigger everyone's sympathy and deep feelings in viewers and commentators now, as much as the face of this guy make every viewer deeply sad and angry at authorities for not saving this face this person?
