Dr. Peterson is an absolute master at distilling extremely complex ideas into an easy to understand format. We’re so blessed to have access to the contents of his mind.
Sounds like a hyper-redundant trait. Not only that but he focuses on the exact wrong things, not on who Cain and Abel are but on their actions which are just a filtered projection, seen as a reflection from the third party.... Zzzzz
@@MZRTMusic254 who they are, which is where the judgment of this world truly lies.. it's in the comment. You can't even feel things if you're a fish, or a downsgndrome or someone with low consciousness Fate fucks the best of us This whore of an existence
Everyone faces that dilemma of Cain and the temptation to go down the path of bitterness, resentment, and rage. It feels like it protects us at first but ironically it always leads to destruction.. The only solution I’ve found is this: for each person to accept their suffering, deny themselves, and carry their own cross.. and that’s how we would actually save the world
My own solution has been to say a simple prayer: Bless them, Lord, I forgive them. May they forgive me. There are times when it's not easy to say it, the hurt is so deep or still fresh in my heart, but I say it anyway. It helps a lot
I completely agree that the Socialist and their ideological spawn are another manifestation of Cane. I was raised as an aggressive athiest yet over the years my love of learning and curiosity have let me to god. The last couple years have proven my conclusions into midlife that god is truth. Thanks for what you and your team do
Mr. Jordan's profound understanding, shaped by his vast experience and knowledge, undoubtedly surpasses mine. Surprisingly, thoughts I harbored privately for 15 years, often dismissed as products of a damaged mind, were not only echoed by him but substantiated with scientific evidence. What brings me joy is his extensive fan base, united in learning and agreement. As J.B.P advocates, courage lies in expressing one's thoughts openly. Imagine a world where everyone fearlessly engages in discussions about ideologies, religions, or traditions. Thank you, Mr. Jordan, for inspiring such bravery.
Interesting conclusion. Unfortunately, JP has done a number of videos and speeches that support the Christian worldview. With that one has also had to accept the concept of god. As smart and "wise" as he may appear, Peterson completely abandons the notion of objectivity which is so valued in various fields in academic and scientific communities. An observer should wonder, why would someone abandon the scientific method and make a leap into the supernatural ? There's really no other explanation other than that individual's need for emotional comfort/support is more powerful than the seeking of "truth".
@@msmd3295 you see, this is why I disagree with this comment altogether. People DO engage in discussion about ideologies and religion. They are just really bad at it. You have some level of conviction about your conclusion here - but you're a long way off from decent logic. You think you can explain the world empirically? You couldn't even explain your own actions for a single day of your pathetic life empirically. Not even for a single hour. Yet you think you have the answers for when our ape ancestors lower intestines made a subtle change 120,000 years ago to digest more fat than they had heretofore done? To say nothing of a million other important questions science has no answer for. Get real.
Jesus Christ bro you don't have to concede his intelligence undoubtedly surpasses yours and write and NPC godly praise of him. I'm happy Jordan has found confidence in his credence and values...that's fine but my god, he's human too... Do you know many mistakes somebody has to make to refine their views and values...he's not a Messiah.. he promoted responsibility and integrity...which is great.. but for Christ's sake... What's with all this godly praise...just live your life...do good...be responsible..forgive yourself if you mess up..and be happy.
The euphemisms and virtue signalling is just baffling.. nobody has a clue why or how we are in this realm...just do your best and spread love...yes adopt responsibility and have self confidence and live a good life...but all this virtue signalling and bible bashing is just nonsense.. you can worship god and align with that which is good through choosing love instead of fear in every action or reaction..it's as simple as that...most importantly...forgive yourself if you mess up... Decisions are a balance between the frontal cortex and amygdala...it's ok to make mistakes...as long as you learn from them and point in a the opposite direction..we are all human...none of us are perfect..Christianity is about forgiveness. Jesus hung with the sinners man...he knew they were just ignorant and needed guidance.
@@officiallyeffectivevideos Supposedly. Unfortunately not all "credence and values" reflect the facts. If one really wants the respect of others their credence and values should reflect the realities of the real world, things that can be proven. Yet many if JP's admirers are people who believe in the supernatural because Peterson (professionally) promotes christianity. A system of belief grounded in the supernatural of which JP can provide no evidence whatsoever. Peterson abandoned the discipline of his "science" when he started promoting theism.
Yes, finally one of Dr JPs guest said it: what is missing in my opinion from Dr JPs analysis of the Cain and Abel story is that innocent blood needed to be shed in the sacrifices both brothers made. Abel does this, he sacrifices an innocent lamb. Cain's sacrifice is fruit. Abel understood and obeyed God when God said that the wages of sin are death. Cain decided to bring his own preferred sacrifice, in the words of Sinatra "I did it my way ." The whole of the OT is an unfolding, progressive revelation, looking forward to the Messiah, the fully man / fully God figure who would be the fulfulment of what the OT sacrifices had been pointing to: the wages of sin is death, and Christ lived a perfect life that He may die in our place. I empathise with Cain: I cannot bear the thought of killing an innocent lamb, but the fact is that God told mankind that the only way to atone for our sins was through the shedding of innocent blood. And Cain disobeyed, hence his offering was not accepted by God. We have the same choice to make this side of the NT. We can choose to accept Christ's propitiatory death for us or can, like Cain, choose to make other sacrifices to God, but they are both disobedient & ineffective. Cain probably went to a great deal of trouble in preparing his sacrifice of fruit. Which can be seen as an attempt at salvation through good works. But no one can find salvation that way: we must find salvation in Christ's substitutionary death. Good works will be the fruit of that. Christianity is alone amongst all the worlds religions in that it insists that the way to heaven is not through good works, but through Christ's sacrifice at Calvary. Of course, faith without deeds is dead, but putting our faith in the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world precedes any good deeds we may do.
Where did you read of God telling Cain or Able to bring a sacrifice of any kind let alone a blood sacrifice. Verses from the New Testament are not evidence of what God said/did.... They were written 1,500 years after the book of Genesis.
@@JediSteele it’s not at all. An ideology only tells one half of the story. Religion tells both sides of the story, it’s the antithesis of an ideology.
@@m.thousands1848 Religion is the striving for an Ideal set by God. Ideology is striving on an ideal set by humans. Humans carry out Religion through the practice of an ideology Wokeness replaces God with Human, it is 100% a false religion. The great Awokening
Once Jordan said something to the effect of "if something bad happens to you, it means you did something wrong somewhere along the line". He also talks about Cain and Abel, and Abel was killed by his brother - so naturally I wondered what Abel did wrong for that to happen to him. All interpretations of the story seem to maintain that Abel was innocent and yet that is incommensurate with Jordans aforementioned point, a point which I agree with. So I think that Abel's mistake was to ignore his struggling brother and fail to get down in the mud with him so to speak and to help lift him up. Cain says "am I my brothers keeper?" and I think the implication is that we ARE supposed to be our brothers keepers to some degree, and not to be content to succeed while they fail. Therefore I think that the destructive struggling dispossessed left are actually in part due to the sins of the successful, not active sins but sins of omission, namely to be content to thrive whilst others fail. Jesus says in the bible “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” I don't believe in communism and the government taking from the rich by force and giving to the poor, but like Jesus I think that people should VOLUNTARILY give to the poor, and that by aiding the downtrodden in a spirit of charity the reason for the anger and vindictiveness of the left would be dissolved and the anger with it, and so too the turmoil caused thereby. To conclude I don't think we solve this problem by fighting the left but by helping them. A problem never goes away until it is solved and we will never have peace until this problem goes away. Thank you.
Cain and Abel are the precursor to the Jewish people and Jesus, which is why Abel is portrayed as innocent. The difference is that Jesus did it voluntarily, and rose to defeat death. The early Christians lived in essentially communes, sharing everything, in many cases. Even then, they fasted and gave what they would have eaten during that fast to the poor and hungry. I want to be clear, however, the poor and hungry are not the left. They are the excuse the left use to live their lives of luxury and point fingers at others for not doing enough. The left will find something to accuse us of, it is in their nature.
I love that you are reading the bible more lately, Dr. Peterson. All of your lectures and studies have been so in-depth and thought-provoking! I truly pray for you and your family to continue and/or experience personal relationship, repenting, and submitting to Our Great Lord through Jesus Christ and by the power of His Holy Spirit! Your beautiful mind would have to let go of some logic because in spirit and faith is the only way to please God and He surpasses even the brightest combined and all understanding! Hehe He gave us these wonderful, creative, thinking minds and working, creating bodies in His image but with all thought and effort we never come close in the flesh. I hope you gain salvation and the amazing freedom, grace, and love of God and continue inspiring many in so many ways, as you do! Thank you for all your work!!! Love ya ❤️🔥✝️🤝💞🙏
I was underwhelmed by his (40-years-in-the-making) revelation to be honest. He spent this video recalling the story of Cain and Abel and then his one 'innovative' idea was to correlate the envy of Cain with the envy of communists... eh
Not true, Moese did make it to the promised land. At the transfiguration of Jesus. :) Only difference is he got there by the grace of God rather than his own merit. @@jgt07
I love that Dr. Peterson's response to having someone point out his "irrelevant" interruption is to laugh it off like he's talking to an old friend. His humility is noteworthy.
This shows that it doesn't take a Christian to prove God. Jordan is proving God with pure facts and logic and I am loving every second of it. His head is in the right place, I just hope his heart ends up following.
How is Jordan’s comment on a gig leaf not being a sufficient means of covering up “not relevant”, it was directly related to what they were talking about.
One of my favorite verses pairs well with the concluding point of this video. James 2: What profit is it, my brethren, for a man to say he hath faith, and hath not works? can faith save him? Yea, a man may say, I will show thee I have faith without works; but I say, Show me thy faith without works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
Something else that might interest Dr Peterson, is how the first thing God asks Adam to do is to start naming things, and now today, the deconstructionists that Peterson speaks out against, are trying to undo that very act by blurring, destroying or deconstructing those identities and boundaries that began with Adam.
*You're getting warmer Dr. Peterson.* It took my Jewish mother 70 years to accept Jesus Christ and all of who He said he was. *Keep running your race, and finish well.* Shalom ✝️✡️🕎
@jacobus57 She did not abandon it; she embraced it. She did not convert so easily. We saw Hanukkah miracles as my father died of cancer. Yeshua was present during and at the very end. I also saw the Holy Spirit during these difficulties and more. I speak with confidence and assurance with knowledge according to the scriptures, not from a point of skepticism and doubt. So the blind now see, but the seeing are blinded. As it was at the beginning, so let it be at the end. Amen. Amen.
Jonathan Cahn explains the world's deterioration from the point of view of people turning away from God Almighty and thereby turning to various idols. All brilliantly presented in " Return of the Gods". I would recommend all his books as absolutely mandatory for anyone interested in calling themselves Christian.
The story of Cain and Abel is that Cain was a quantity man and Able was a quality man. Read closely you will see Abel gave of his First Fruits. In this Abel was saying God was first. Cain was saying I gave you stuff God you should be happy with anything. Cain gave more but not of what was precious to Cain. Abel gave a piece of what he needed. This may seem odd. So, in survival you have periods of time waiting for food. You are very hungry. You waited on a crop; you waited to see animals grow; or success hunting all the while you are hungry. Then instead of feeding yourself and caring for yourself you stopped and thanked God and gave that which you waited for to God. This is a high form of love and thought. Cain gave from his plenty that which he chose not to partake of. Cain's offering's quality may have been as good or better then Abel but the quality of love and thought was not. Cain never understood that message. May God bless you!
I think I hold some kind of record for being run off from the Methodist Church from its ministry. Once as a local licensed preacher in 1968 and again in 2008 as an Elder. It was at the same time both terrible and yet fulfilling in nature. What we often fail to appreciate is the physical toll that it takes. But God never shared an “Atta boy” with me for which I am grateful. What I seem to recall hearing from Jesus was something more like “ If you can’t get yourself up from this how are you going to get out of a grave?” Wowser.
No record. I was run off in '68 as a youth in MYF. Again in early 2000s as a contemplative with a Master's in spiritual formation. And again as an ordained elder in 2021 (and my husband in 2023). Terrible toll - physically, spiritually, emotionally, and financially since one's retirement funds are negatively impacted. Now a Free Methodist ordained elder leading a small church and working full time as a hospice chaplain. Why? Because I always knew Jesus is the mission; the denomination is just the means. There has been a cost, and I am content to serve Him, however imperfect I am.
@@oneguyontheinternet7578 I agree. I'm not faithful for compliments but as Peter said, "where else would we go? You have the words of eternal life." He is God, and I am His. And I'm happy with Him.
I’ve begun to somewhat feel bad for Peterson, about a year or two now. I first stumbled into his videos on Nietzsche and other more academic subjects, maybe 6-7 years ago and they were quite insightful, informative and he was in a plain academic setting. I had no idea who he was and I don’t remember if his book had come out but he wasn’t nearly the phenomenon he is now. The difference then though is that he seemed jovial back then. And lately I’ve gotten the sense that he’s much angrier, harder than he once was. Perhaps that’s because of the sharp decay of society in north America, particularly in his home country-Canada has truly become unhinged in its suppression of free expression and attack on traditional life. Yet I can also see that it could be that he resents being attacked and so vilified by the radical left that is so dominant in the media now - in what once was known as journalism-something rarely seen in its old haunts, and academia, Hollywood, professional organizations. Even his publishers’ staff decided to unfairly lacerate him in egregious fashion. It’s absolutely appalling and he has every right to be angry about it. That he continues on, perhaps he knows how clearly those of us on the right at least see the pillorying of his name as unwarranted and contemptible. It’s funny because I’ve never thought of him as a conservative or if the right, but it seems he may have been pushed in this direction by the vile behavior of these sad souls that now inhabit the left wing.
I liked how Jordan mentioned the fig leaves being a bad way to cover up. It shows that those doing bad and what wasn't created to do good will always be a pathetic and dishonest attempt from what is perfect. In the same way Cain offered fruit which was also pathetic and dishonest from what was needed, as a way to "cover up" from doing a real sacrifice. The guest obviously likes hearing himself talk and is extremely narcissistic, I appreciate your thought Mr. Peterson. You made a good point there. Through humility we can appreciate and learn, something the guest clearly can't do.
Christian apologist have spent nearly 2 thousand years distorting the Hebrew Bible to gain followers in their fake religion, and I think it drives thinking people away from the true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of the Hebrew Bible. It is a perversion to speak for God and say that He needs blood shed for forgiveness. It is people that invented the ideas of sacrifice, God only puts rules on how it is to be done.
Love Dr Peterson's comment on Marxism/Socialism. The story of Cain and Able always makes me think of my brother. Still cannot comprehend how we came from the same family.
This guy said nothing that was remotely relevant to what Jordan was trying to talk about here, sorry bro, but I wish Jordan was interrupting more for once.
Fascinating interview …. Cain and Abel, Adam and Eve. What is the least I have to do….to fulfill my obligations to God, but still be in His Grace and love.
Outstanding and remarkable conversation Jordan and Eric‼️💯 Our victory is in the blood of Jesus, in the authority of Jesus, and in the anointing of Jesus! We are anointed to share the Truth of God’s Word to a dying and hopeless world. ✝️🕊🙏❤️💯 ✝️ Revelation 12:11 (NKJV) “They conquered, triumphed, overcame him (evil) by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB (JESUS CHRIST) and by the word of their TESTIMONY.” ✝️🕊🙏❤️💯
I fundamentally disagree with the statement that all human beings know something is wrong. Children do not know something is wrong. They are joyful and love everyone unconditionally, and I would argue that an enlightened adult like Mother Teresa also loves unconditionally. In my opinion, the only thing wrong with man is that man has forgotten, what’s really important in this world. But I can assure you one thing to yourself and you’ll lose the sense of what “wrong”
I appreciate the concept of Haven but my view is that the haven is the different state of our mind, you can create your own haven in this life without having to die to go to haven!
I haven’t listened to the whole clip yet, so I don’t know if Peterson calls Metaxas on it. But, he makes a statement about “luring” the gods to give favor. That is the exact opposite of the Christian message. The Christian message is that God has made us who and what we are, in this time and place, for his purpose. His purpose is the meaning of our lives. Regardless of whether we suffer or not.
Adam and Even adorning fig leaves is the first religious act yes, here qualified by the term 'negative', but it can easily be identified as simply the first cultural act and the story of Cain and Abel clarifies this creation of culture further by revealing that Cain is in fact the creator of society and culture, building the first cities and trades. The story of Cain and Abel is actually interesting because in it is the depiction of the first ritual sacrifice for god occurring before the progenitor of the cultural act of sacrifice, being the murder of the innocent individual. To clarify, the story depicts the flow as being from ritual sacrifice to murder, but in reality the flow was from murder to ritual sacrifice - which I find unintentionally revealing. The story is also interesting because the fact that a killer seeds civilisation is actually the epiphany of a long line of discovery of human nature and behaviour but the writers of the Hebrew bible put it at the beginning because that's where it belongs in the timeline of human cognitive and behavioural development. Religion is like the fig leaf, its function is to blunt the effects of mimetic desire, being envy, resentment and violence. Religion was not good for man but *necessary* for group survival in a very real Darwinian sense, where the biggest threat to survival is not plague, lack of resources, other groups, but internal group conflict exacerbated by mimesis.
Hi Dr. Peterson, I was wondering if you think Cain’s purpose, by striking Abel, was actually to strike out against God himself? It seems to me that what we’re seeing today is most fundamentally a hatred of the father figure. I believe in this sense, the most fundamental story is Lucifer vs. God; and therefore perhaps the most important lesson we can derive from the Bible, is that: The force which defeats Evil, embodied by the angel Michael, is the warrior spirit. I see that warrior spirit in you, in my father, my brother, myself. There is an army of young men who if they could learn to unleash and control the power they have within themselves.. who knows what the world could become.
It never ceases to amaze me the creative interpretations people can pull out of the Bible. I'm convinced one could find backing for almost anything. Listen to how this guy way overthinks Genesis 3:21. 5:10
This guy hit the nail on the head. The story is a prophetic story foreshadowing the sacrifice of Jesus. This is one example of many prophetic stories in the Old Testament pointing to Jesus Christ and the Gospel. All the stories in the Old Testament point to Jesus Christs sacrifice. This is backed up by Jesus himself in the New Testament referencing the Old Testament stories.
@@chadh9457 one is based on selfish desire and false gods while the other one is based in humility and love and on the True God. Then again I think that you would come up with the answer if you gave your own question some honest thought and pursued truth.
@@JohnathanSimmons-jw3mr The funny thing about your answer is that in reality (where I live) an innocent person still dies, the revealing thing is that its 'humility and love' when the innocent person is murdered for YOUR benefit and 'selfish desire' when you personally gain nothing from the murder. Cognitive dissonance still does not come knocking at your door though right? I know what you are trying to say, the word sacrifice has two meanings as depicted in the story of Solomon and the two mothers. The one sacrifices the baby for her selfish desire, the real mother sacrifices her happiness in order to keep the baby alive and Solomon judges wisely. The imbecilic thing is that the whole of Christianity still believes they are performing the second mother's sacrifice while actually performing the first mother's sacrifice. Here's an idea for you to contemplate since you are so primed for truth and are not so closed minded, the Bible can be read in different ways, one being a sacrificial reading, another being a non-sacrificial reading. The first sees the the murder of Jesus as a blood payment for sins (100% pagan rationality), the second sees the murder of Jesus as the murder of Jesus. 🤯 Did Jesus and the Gospels save us from the intrenched framework of sacrificial ritual obscured by mythic stories? Yes! But he did not die for you you little sinner. You still have to live every day, he's not your blood soaked ticket into heaven you pagan in Christian clothing.
Cain may have struggled to get the sacrifices he made, meaning he may have had to scale mountains to acquire live animals to sacrifice to God. Personally, this is the scariest aspect because it means the type of life God may call you to live through may be one where you continuosly face mountains, a journey which would require the noblest of souls to traverse through or risk falling into bitter and envious resentment. That type of devotion requires a serious value for God, and when that disappears resentment is almost definitely bound to be the end result. This couples with an idea I had about waves civilisations follow which practically always end in tyranny. It's that when we struggle the most (either post or during the tyrannical stage), we harbour a deeper value for the essence of God, because, be it in the desert or in slavery, through attributes like Truth, Love, Responsibility etc, we find our redemption: a Holy foundation to build anew off of. For the first few generations within which we see growth off of this foundation we hold those redeeming attributes in high regard, however, as generations go by and we find ourselves in a state of increasing convenience, the value of those attributes become not so apparent. Combining the two, we can see how a group that sees another within their same system as profiting at a scale they could only dream of, while they suffer to meet their basic necessities, could grow bitterly resentful, and only more so when faced with thr proposition that they haven't sacrificed enough to get what they are fantasizing about. This could cause an uproar that ends in tyranny one way or another. It may have been a combination like this that helped someone like Nietzsche predict the horrors that would come about with what he called the 'death of God'. You could be in a position where it appears certain that no matter how hard you fought you could never reach the position another is in, but, first of all with the right determination you'll get somewhere significant in comparison to where you started off, and with God you can find peace in the thought that what you are promised far exceeds anything you see here.
If you look at Mormon writings in there they say the way of Cain was to become the Master Mahon. To get gain by murder. It’s the story of Cain and Abel.
I had never thought of the parallel between the fig leaves of Adam and Eve and Cain's offering compared to the garments of skins God prepared and Abel's offering. Hmm.
I would love to hear Dr. Peterson discuss biblical narratives/interpretations with people like Dr. Scott Hann, Steve Ray, Trent Horn, Fr. Mike Schmidt, etc.
we can break out of it on our own, the problem is living in society which repeats the story and wants you to be part of those iterations.. I have met many people who are a "been there done that", but they stay within society because they don't know any other way of making a difference.
One of the weaknesses of atheism is it's impractical. Religion hacked human nature. It found we have these weaknesses that can destroy us, like the Cain and Abel story. We need retraining.
That’s generally true Jordan. First thing is that there’s an inherent power struggle throughout biblical texts and that is that a rising power will always be resisted by an existing power. (A Foundational murder is required to unseat an existing power necessarily Romulus and Remus etc…Rene Girard posited this.) Second is that envy bc after our needs our met we don’t know what to desire so we assign a standard that is relative to those around us (mimetic desire also posited by Rene Girard) this is a driving force of human nature and in a just society (a just cosmos) those who live with virtue will necessarily achieve the fruits of their labor (also a biblical thought). That acquisition inevitably incites the envious wrath of those without (we’ll assume a just society but society can be unjust) and the “final refuge of the incompetent is violence” so they will seek to seize those fruits by force. Aka Cain kills Abel. Extrapolated out to a social setting there are ways to extract from those with resources. One is taxes, another is war, another is public shaming etc and that gets built into political movements undoubtedly (as you note socialism or Marxism…you simply seize via tax or social ostracism or political witch-hunt etc). That’s a reflection of the dual survival mechanisms of humans we have both survival mechanisms one is to grow and the other is to kill. And one is more productive and socially constructive than the other. Society inevitably can also be unjust however, Cain can acquire resources by deception in which case, the political movement or violent act gets muddied by appearing justified and it becomes a more complex problem under what circumstances is force of violence justified. And we have just war theory and the like that develops via biblical principals (St Augustine being the pioneer). All those behaviors though reflect an aggregation of individual human psyches. And at the base level we all have within a Cain and an Abel. A violent animal shadow self and a higher cognitive self. Reflects our brain has both systems frontal cortex and animal brain.
There’s nothing a miserable person hates more than virtue. It is a psychological reminder of a personal failing (typically a repressed failing). And the greatest human justification for poor behavior is that everyone is doing it. That it’s normalized. So a virtuous standard must necessarily be expelled. That’s seen throughout history, Socrates, Pythagoras, the “wise man of the Jews” etc
You see this often in mood disorders where love is inverted with hate and they’ll actively reject love or intimacy as dangerous out of fear of abandonment bc the initial act of “love” was emotionally violent or boundariless and is now interpreted as dangerous. That’s counterintuitive but to them love is violence. So meeting violence with violence is logical although it actively causes misery or decent into the “underworld” or “Hades”. A world of perpetual violence and distress. As opposed to virtues which elevates toward peace and harmony aka Heaven
There's something in...the blood that's always been at the heart of the animal sacrifice--something akin to adrenochrome, perhaps. A transferable vitality, released at the moment of sacrifice performed for a particular purpose, and directed by that purpose to "feed the gods". Abel was a herder/hunter; Cain was an agrarian, so his sacrifice transferred a meager vitality in comparison to Abel's blood sacrifice. There's something in the blood...
I take my view of Cain and Abel from the KJV where it is written 'offering' not sacrifice which would mean a gift to give to God. This view allows for one to look at the intention of the giver as to why their gift was not acceptable. In other words Abel gave from the firstlings of his flock while Cain gave fruit but not first fruits.
Firstly, Biblical stories can be interpreted in many ways. Secondly, I would rather interpret the story as Kain being frustrated because God prefers the youngest son, despite his own sacrifices (see also e.g. the Prodigal son parabel). Thirdly, I do largely agree with the analysis about the destructive character of socialism.
Adam and Eve knew that they had failed God and were ashamed and so hid from god, Who came looking for them. We still hide from God, even though He has made a way for us into His presence in Jesus. And there will be a price to for for our reticence. God desires above all things that we come to Him to know Him, to sit at His feet and bask in His holiness and glory. And this is the very least that He deserves
True religion is man's attempt to first discover, second acknowledge, and then ultimately align himself with the physical and moral laws of the universe that we inhabit on this side of eternity, and by doing so align himself with the transcendent God who authored those laws.
Prof Peterson , I have something to add to this and feel it would be lost in the comment section. How could I reach out and present my contribution to this topic that I know I rarely hear and possibly receive your intellectual feedback or critique?
An interpretation I find interesting is that the story talks about the two different life ways of people's at that time: The newer agriculturalists with their grains and the more traditional pastoralists. And yes the farmers even though they were less healthy than the meat eaters did tend to reproduce quickly and did attack the Sheep herders.
Both the movement of fluids, gases and economics can be modeled by differential equations that have a tendency to repeat themselves, and I have the feeling this is so with society in general. It's just that these equations are much more complex so we regard it as merely chaos. But complexity does in no way say that there aren't functions within here that won't repeat themselves just because you can't use it for predicting our future.
They're both going about this and they run around explanation we need to remember that God's word explains itself and if we're adhering to what Living God we're serving then his words should be self-explanatory as his word is literal
It isn't that complicated. Jesus tried to simplify things with a new doctrine that he must have felt was right for the time when he said, "If you will receive it," Matthew 11:14. I know of no one who teaches this beautiful mystery that Jesus himself revealed to the world, and yet the world has chosen not to accept it. It will change your life, "if you will receive it." ru-vid.com/show-UCYADdb_XgWGgiPrEIjV1bgg
Correct or not, I like the unstated implication that Eve and Adam were vegetarian … and wasn't Abel a farmer and Cain a hunter? But teasing around JP's carniverousness aside, the simple reason why Christians since Constantine have been more likely to kill for their faith than to die for it is the loss/erasure of their initiation ritual. Baptism back when John did Jesus involved more than getting wet and chanting/reciting. The words "die to the world of the flesh" and (if all goes well) being "born to the world of the spirit“ used to mean just that. And I have met people of a community who still do it the old way, for the ever so few who are sufficiently interested in Jesus to bother to seek his initiation. … and such, of course, is only for those who practice religion (using methods to reunite ones individual consciousness with the source). All that ended when Jesus got tagged with Buddha's miracles, Dionysius' gifts vis a vis wine, Mithras' three days in a cave and stories from every other significant religious figure to produce a Catholic (means All Embracing) amalgamation. Like Marvel creating a superhero who has ALL the powers. The approved stories of Jesus produced a unifying figure to make the Pontifex Maximus the earthly representative of all the demi-gods. One can't expect modern Christians to engage with the religious quest. Their "religion" was repurposed to hyper-domesticate humanity. And, even though the extension of the Roman Empire, once called "Christendom" and now called "western democracy" likely has the all time record of ruthless wickedness … a few generally avoided or reframed notions of Jesus did make it into the Canon, and have been a slow poison to the Empire. From those few words which have a chance of being authentic, one can discern that actual followers of Jesus can be easily recognized. They don't cling to (and would never kill for) worldly possessions. They give everything that they don't, in a immediate sense "need" to the poor and of course, they would never ever be caught doing business with banks. All those claiming a personal relationship with a Master who didn't take his initiation and don't follow his most basic guidelines … are … good citizens of the empire which murdered their Master. They had better hope (prayer can do nothing for such) that their notions of hell are very, very wrong ;) Recommended Reading: Kempis. The Imitation of Christ.
Why wasn't there million parents march on ed dept , to remove the filth they put into schools? Well the selfish parents thought its not in my school , so im alright jack. Still time to do march , from Scotland, Wales, Ireland and England
It's a code. Like in programming, coding, these stories, they are a code that have been observed. They don't repeat. They are a law, a code, we just have various ways of describing it. What's interesting is this entity that has become aware of it's own code. The hell is that? And what does it lead to?
That horrific, insensitive, schoolyard bully-enabling coward-on-the-sidelines call of his for bloodshed would be career-suicide for an authentic, clinical psychologist but PeterPANson is no psychologist. He is an entrepreneur selling his "brand", a stock that consists of vulnerable narcissist Storyteller PeterPANson. As he has aged, his true character has emerged. That true character behind the slipped mask posits a very fallibile, frail and downright mean and confused personality. A PSYCHOLOGIST of whatever branch of the ART, not Science, of mental processes, like the higher ranked Art of Psychiatry, has one raison d'être --- to HEAL those humans sick in their PSYCHE, SOUL, MIND, SPIRIT, hence the etymological link to "psyche" in both pseudosciences, which PeterPANson might in his dilettante dabblings in everything in life that falls within his gadfly awareness, cockroaching on the little bit he has read of the entertaining lifeworks of others, crypt-dust Sicko Siggy Freud, mental case depressive Nietzsche and woman-basher Joseph Campbell, the latter American writer delving in comparative mythology and comparative religion, acknowledge --- if he even knows --- that PSYCHE is the Greek goddess of the SOUL and often represented as a beautiful woman with butterfly wings. Note well because the mental ground, the importance, is overlooked totally --- the name Psyche means "soul" in Greek and was represented by the Greek letter Ψ (Psi). The letters Ψ or ψ can moreover serve as a symbol for Psychology, Psychiatry, and sometimes even parapsychology, involving paranormal or relating with the SUPERNATURAL subjects, especially research into extrasensory perception. In the End Time, living in a foretold plague (Revelation 22: 18-19), the foremost, the monumental example of ESP ( Extra Sensory Perception) is the actualized, materialized, made manifest, realized content of the Bible's finale, the 22 Books of Revelation. A WOMAN whose given, middle and surname were enscribed, set in concrete as it were, circa 95CE in Revelation 2:17, in 19:12 and in 19:16 as a cryptic wordpuzzle, found herself astrally projected thousands of years into the future into the avowed/promised/foresworn "kingdom of 'God', its geopolitical design fulfilled by Feb 14 1965 in details matching exactly the 95CE Landscape Architecture "blueprint" precisely delineated in Revelation 21 and 22, the Ideation brought down to mortal plane of "a new heaven and a new Earth". This ESP also known as Second Sight is an alleged form of extrasensory perception, whereby a person, in this case a WOMAN, perceives information, in the form of a vision, about future events before they happen (precognition), or about things or events at remote locations (remote viewing), possessing the faculty of perceiving things by means other than the known senses, e.g., by telepathy or clairvoyance. The FEMALE time-traveler was privy to a fast forward time-lapse of world history, a sickening nightmare vision of man's inhumanity to his fellow man through the barbarian sweep from the Far East, through the French Revolution through the ArmaGammadion, 1939-1945 to the bomb drop on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to the Sept 11 2001 port city assault on New York's World Trade hub, detailed Revelation 18 and more finalized deeds. Speaking of Leafs, don't you find it wholly amiss of our snake-oil salesman, grifter PeterPANson in discourse with irritating under-educated bible-thumper Eric Metaxas, both trying to razzledazzle the peasants, serfs, gulls and group-think vacwits with their backward delve into the murky sludge of the ancient past 10,000 years bygone, circling around the titillating image of the fig LEAF hiding the genitals of two Non-persons, 'Adam and Eve' of the plagiarized Genesis 2:15 Edenic tale the misappropriated from the Gilgamesh saga, that much earlier Epic Poem from ancient Mesopotamia? I keep waiting for closet misogynist pseudo-intellectual PeterPANson to admit in his idiosyncratic re-weaving of select biblical stories, like the Flood and Noah, that he actually knows where some of these stories originate, that several stories are similar to those appearing later in Genesis, such as stories of the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, their error of disobedience that resulted in their FALL out of god and goddess divinity into common humanity, expelled from paradise, and the flood, which is depicted in the story of Noah and its aftermath. The Gilgamesh Epic account of the Babylonian Flood story is the acknowledged source of the Genesis Flood Story; however given PeterPANson's contempt for useless fields like Anthropology which he will not permit in his dreamed of vainglorious, unaccredited "Peterson University", along with despicable Women's Studies, we know why his knowledge fits a thimble and why, poor deluded sap, it took him 40 grinding years of mental effort to arrive at a wholly wrong conclusion, extracting his own very wrong didactic theme from the Cain v. Abel story. First Cause/PrimeEnergy/Universal Psyche/World Soul never proscribed SACRIFICE. Indeed the time has long passed that Men let that poor apotheosize Nazi-rite down from the cross you needed to terminate him on, to perpetuate your grandiose flights of fantasy regarding the nature of divinity. Those 40 years PeterPANson boasts he spent in thought are his self-adulating way of infusing veracity to his finding. How can he be wrong if he pondered, researched, questioned from every angle his (bizzaro, jock, revisionist) speculative criticism and analysis of the meaning of the fable. It only took him 45 seconds to become an expert in Middle East politics, therefore taint Canadian citizens with his sycophant utterance, having read a few books on political science in university also 40 years bygone. Canada has an expert in Middle East politics; renown Janice Gross Stein CM OOnt FRSC is a Canadian political scientist and international relations expert, a specialist in Middle East area studies, negotiation theory, foreign policy decision-making and international conflict management. Unlike this infantile attention-seeker PeterPANson, she did not taunt the bullies, Zionists and Hamas on from the sidelines, to inflame genocide. Some pathetic useless HEALER he is. Physician heal thyself comes to mind.
Continued: It is a shame this Canadian charlatan bastardizes the Holy Book/Bible/The Word of God/El•Sheba (el:god/sheba:word/oath/pledge/vow/promise/Hebrew numeral "seven" as ancient illiterates numeric sigil on binding contracts, precursor of "x" of uneducated western pioneers. We can see how money-motivated this social media celeb is to exploit this cornerstone of literature, especially focusing on and modeling his life since 2016 upon the journey of a "hero", the concept of the life of suffering and sacrifice epic (paranoid cry "They're out to get me, they want to bring me down, harm me and my family") and the themes of good (flawless virtuous him versus bad which is to say every person who dares criticize this thin-skinned paragon of virtue), life and death, and morality and duty. Were his male supremacist bias and anti-female prejudice and denograting stereotypes not so deeply ingrained, his blocked mind might have allowed him to envision another LEAF than Adam's willy-warming fig, the other one the Woman foretold Revelation 22: 2, the LEAF of the tree that is for the HEALING of the nations, the prescient symbol rampant on the livery colours of the Apocalyptic Rider, Revelation 19:16, ElShebbath's Celestial Sponsor's riding silks, worn as required to represent the House she rides for, i.e. WHITE dipped in blood/RED, which any dolt with even two synapses firing properly in his benzodiazepine-damaged cranium could recognize as 🇨🇦, the prophesied landmass dodecahedron or 12-faceted BREASTPLATE OF Final JUDGMENT. Tragically, to preserve the global toxic masculinist status quo, 11 men and 1 InstantHonourary- Male Female PEI Premier C. Callbeck vandalized, marrred, obfuscated, ruined, obliterated the proof of God's existence on April Fool Day 1999 contra explicit warning to all 12 dumb-as-a-flaming-bag-of- doggie-doo provincial leaders! They colluded cunningly to destroy a long sought Life-Imitates-Art "living" religious symbol which corresponds to that worn Exodus 39:8-14 by the ritually-cleansed High Priest in the inner sanctum of the Holy of Holies once every 7 years when the religious leader uttered the Divine's guarded name in secret to his eventual replacement-cum-understudy, preserving it, protecting it ... by withholding in secrecy from the 12 Tribes, least the mob of flea-laded, superstition-driven, leprous FlatEarthers who continued worshiping as Jehovah/Yahweh everything from snakes to their own penises to golden calves to blood-soaked and polished ash altars in groves where the 12 Tribes' first born sons traditionally bled out as SACRIFICE, that 'innocent' blood ritual to appease "god". Do these compulsive takers think before they open their big mouths to flap their senseless tongues? In love with the sound of their own voices and highly impressed by peddling what they do not know, PeterPANson and US imitator trying to keep up with his perceived political POWER, pompous Metaxas, really track badly the content of the text they are abusing to make an easy living. Since these ancient Semite male ancestors had smarts less than our 21stC not-too-bright Third Graders, the oafs might take HER name in vain, insult, blaspheme, and bring a cataclysmic curse on Hebrew descendants forever, hence the secrecy, meanwhile progressively men spoke over HER as many men are prone to do to women, interrupting frequently. The bible is written in the Seventh Person Narrative Voice; she, ψ (Psi), expresses herself in the finale. That same Red banded White garment flag, unique among 195 nations, is worn by the rowdy, joyful, boisterous, multiracial, polygot, multinational, multitribal, unceremonious, brave, confident Gate-Crashers who show up uninvited on JUDGMENT DAY. Expecting that all humankind --- except their homogeneous tribe yet limited in worthiness, in religiosity, an exclusive 144,000 anal-retentive OC Hebrew rules-following, ultra-Orthodox selves (Cold, now that is cold, brrrr, to have no pity even for one's own religiously-imperfect tribespeople!) to be consigned to eternal torture and damnation in hell's unquenchable flames, instead the Semites find themselves SNUBBED BY THE DIVINE, who pays them no attention, looks beyond them to reminisce and engage instead in recall about those happy-go-lucky, feeling right at ease, innumerable, uncountable attendees who resonate in HER PSYCHE, Revelation 7: 9-14, SPIRITS remembered from past lives, the multitude of confident GOD-LOVING, not GOD-FEARING, expressive gate-crashers. PeterPANson loves posturing as erudite. What has stopped this non-H E A L E R, this obnoxious, gleeful encourager of Israeli unleashing of the rabid dogs of war to eradicate unarmed civilian populace as expendable collateral damage, from seeing the harm he has done by shooting off his filterfree mouth? What also stopped him from not seeing the link between ψ (Psi) a.k.a. Psyche, who as "the goddess of the SOUL is draped in WHITE which represents innocence? She amorously reaches for a RED draped Cupid, God of desire, representing the BOND of LOVE and SOUL. This arrogant closet misogynist is extremely weak, among a host of fields, such as his reading comprehension, level, for example on prescription bottles, dangerous and inexplcable for a man who bragged about years of research in effects on the body of pharmaceutical drugs, and including the field of SYMBOLOGY. Many books have been available to him, as per the prompting Revelation 20:12: "books were/will THEN be opened." This eager hustler revivalist ought to have opened 📚s more assiduously and his unfiltered mouth less determinedly. His supersuction liplock on Israeli Netanyahu's flabby flank, his attention-seeking brattish shout out to get more Clicks for to rake in more passive-income by what he had to know would incite clapback from decent people ought to have been a career-ending action, but since PeterPANson is no longer a psychologist in any practical terms but a self-employed gossipmonger selling his unadulterated crap through social media, this hateful, sick, wound-opening action of his calling for unbridled war will not recoil back, as it should, on the record as PeterPANson's willful career-suicide. This embarrassment to new Cana, the "kingdom of God", ought to result at least in his constantly yap-yap-yapping lips being stapled shut. It's bad enough he disseminates ignorance, dummies down fans of his storytelling performance, but he also impedes the MENTAL and SPIRITUAL evolution of humankind by filling the unresistant brains of the young and impressionable with taught ignorance. Did he not read or is he ignoring his hero Carl Jung's dream of what falls on the beautiful cathedral in Basle, something terrible that dropped from beneath the Throne of God? That unsettling, scary Giant Turd message soon after processing proves freeing, ends with "bliss" for Jung: he accepts God's wisdom, but counterwise, PeterPANson rejects superior intellect at every opportunity. Regrettably Faustian Overreacher PeterPANson has convinced himself he is the wisest person on Earth, the apt leader to head a GENIOCRACY, governance by a hand-picked panoply, a magnificent and impressive array of "geniuses" (Theo Von video) who will solve all the world's problems, "make the desert 🏜 bloom". Cannot wait for his methodology for gaining compliance from the Toxic Masculinist Patriarchal ('no such thing' he rails and bristles) MantheBeast dictators, malignant narcopaths, gaslighting theocrats, military strongmen, hawkish war-lovers who insist life stays in Male ORDER, does not decay into Female CHAOS. 😉😄😆😂
I think this is why people self harm and cut themselves to draw blood. They’ve been hurt and sinned against or caused hurt and send and there’s something in our souls that knows blood needs to be shed. I think self harm is their own personal attempt at sacrifice for whatever sin was committed, when the real sacrifice comes from Jesus and the blood He shed.
Interesting. How does this dovetail into a father's blessing? If Esau had received his father's blessing, would his brother then have killed him in jealousy? Esau remained feared because he had been wronged. These two passages in Scripture work together as does the lesson of Joseph.
It took me till I was over sixty to understand other people and realize that they are governed by their irrational emotions, mostly fear, hate, greed, envy, lust, and their own egos. I’ve determined there is a dichotomy and a trine to life. The dichotomy of good vs evil or right vs left which Cain and Abel represent. The trine is the choice of do what’s right or do what’s easy or do nothing. There’re always three choices but they boil down to the two. And when you choose the middle ground, you are choosing to be half wrong, and being half wrong does not make you right.
