Italian High-Speed Trains Rivalry: Explained

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A few weeks ago on RE, we went on a journey through the Italian railway system, making a comprehensive overview and discussing its development from a historical perspective, its current organization, key players and market segments, and of course, the performance of both, the freight and passenger transport carriers.
In the previous video, we discussed Italy's remarkable high-speed railway segment, whose success can be attributed to various factors, but one often neglected is the country's geographical layout, ie. the existence of a north-south axis extending from the Alps into the Mediterranean Sea, with the majority of the country's most populous cities situated along this axis.
In that video, we continued the Italian story, by delving deeper into the explanation of the current Italian HSR network, exploring the lines currently under construction, and presenting fascinating facts and figures about the Italian HSR market.
Now, in this video, we are concluding the story of Italian railways, and taking a closer look at the features of incredible Italian high-speed trains and services.
Compared to our usual videos of this kind, this one is slightly different, as, instead of focusing on the development and evolution of HSR trains over time, we explored the train sets within the defined services offered by two famous Italian HSR operators: Trenitalia and Italo.
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@marcodalmas3779 Год назад

Etr 700 now is freccia rossa, actually freccia argento and freccia bianca services are going to be discontinued, because the classic service regionale / regionale veloce is fast enough and sometimes freccia argento was faster than freccia rossa due to stops so it was a bit confusing

@valerianocuomo996 Год назад

Italia domina ,Francia Grecia UK è roba nostra ormai con fs. Navi da guerra f35,missil, dominiamo,lascia perde Napoli e Calabria, industria e abbiamo ucciso molti in Afganistan Iraq Bosnia bombe non fare il fallito che che crede che fuori sia meglio.e poi non scrivere metà e metà.inchinati alla mia potenza

@anthonyfrushour537 Год назад

That’s concerning… So I would take the Frecciabianca that ran from Roma Termini to Ravenna to my relatives in Foligno because, yes, actually it was a bit faster than the regionale veloce. What will happen to the routes that were Frecciargento or Frecciabianca?

@samuelcoeli5937 Год назад

@@anthonyfrushour537 they will all be replaced either by Intercity trains if they were Frecciabianca, and Frecciarossa trains if they were Frecciargento, at least that’s the pattern that I saw in the last year

@marcodalmas3779 Год назад

@@anthonyfrushour537 well as Samuel said freccia bianca service will be replaced mainly by intercity and freccia argento(but now freccia argento is freccia rossa😂). While the etr 700/600 are now freccia rossa and they serve the old freccia argento routes, is more a name/marketing move, they just call the Trenitalia high speed service freccia rossa(and it make sense in my opinion because it was confusing as you can see). Now a days only the etr 485 still service (I think they won’t be here for long) as freccia argento, and they won’t become part of freccia rossa program. I don’t know in the other part of Italy but here in Venice I don’t see them anymore. To sum up It’s like a plane company approach you buy a ticket with ita airways and if it is a European flight the plane would be a smaller one like a320, if you fly to New York it would be a350

@LucaPasini Год назад

As other people mentioned in the comments, the section of this video dedicated to Trenitalia isn't up to date: it's not really the creator's fault, Trenitalia happens to be in the process of reviewing its brandings and rolling stock assignments, a process that is supposed to leave Frecciarossa as their only brand for free-market high-speed services, interrupting a process of growing ambiguity. An incorrect information that no one else has yet highlighted is about the ETR 470. Cisalpino was a joint venture between the Italian and Swiss railways: when it was dissolved in 2009, 5 ETR 485 became owned by Trenitalia and 4 by SBB. SBB always struggled to mantain theirs, probably because their workshops weren't used to that kind of rolling stock, and decommissioned them in 2015, as soon as they had enough ETR 610 to replace them. Trenitalia also replaced them with their new ETR 610 a few years later, but started using them on Frecciabianca services from Rome to Calabria. In 2020 they decided to refurbrish and transfer all of their 5 ETR 470 to TrainOSE.

@valerianocuomo996 Год назад

Taci,inclinati davanti alla potenza italiana, bombardamenti in tanti paesi, export.

@voyager___ Год назад

Awesome video, just a few annotations: the ETR 485s are all either been sold to Greece or repurposed on the Frecciabianca service, while all ETR 700 are all rebranded as Frecciarossa. Frecciabianca is about to be discontinued and only operates in very few cities on two lines, both originating from Rome and reaching Ravenna or Genova (then splits reaching Turin or Milan). Frecciargento on the other hand reaches more destinations especially in the south on the Adriatic line reaching Apulia and Calabria (which are also serviced by Frecciarossa during holidays and summer).

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

Thanks for this information.

@matostrainspotting Год назад

So 5 etr 470 are in Greece and the rest is out of service? What about the 460 series?

@gabri_maybe Год назад

I don't know what will happen to ETR 485s but the ones that went to Greece are ETR 470s whilst the Frecciabianca sets are ETR 460s,otherwise nobody actually knows the difference between an IC sun and a Frecciabianca 😅 and god knows will happen with ETR 460s and ETR 485s in the future,all I know is that in 2016 the ETR 460/463 got their tilting turned off due to high maintenance costs and the lack of spare parts,and have been listed for sale so there's that

@d1234as Год назад

No, ETR 470 are sold to Greece, not ETR 485!

@billythorne Год назад

What a coincidence, you and RMTransit made a video on Italian high speed rail on the same day. Nice.

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

We published video about Italian HSR system last week 😀

@mattianardelli2296 Год назад

Best thing about the etr 1000 is that the cabin is pressurised like on airplanes, so you feel absolutely nothing when goes through tunnels

@RobertDoornbosF1 Год назад

Cool, but to me seems a bit, unnecesary? Like there's not many tunnels that are so deep that the pressure change is annoying or unpleasent.

@vick8669 Год назад

@@RobertDoornbosF1 false

@RobertDoornbosF1 Год назад

@@vick8669 care to explain?

@jimc4731 Год назад

Wondering, what is the cost to ride one of these trains in Italy Could you please state the ticket price for one individual between any two cities in Italy. Thanks for the well presented video! JIM ❤

@rolmaxify Год назад

@@RobertDoornbosF1 It's not about the depth of the tunnel, it's about entering the tunnel at high speeds. There is a big increase in air pressure when the train hits the tunnel entrance as the air doesn't have many places to go. If the train is not pressurized and sealed off properly, your ears will pop even at much lower speeds (even at 200 km/h as i experienced myself once in a night train. It wasn't pleasant at all and i couldn't sleep). So a pressurized cabin is a must for trains going as fast as the Frecciarossa and other Highspeed services) Edit: There can even be a sonic boom when a train travels through a tunnel, gives you a sense of how hard the air is trying to find a way somwehere and reaches speeds above speed of sound: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qNmVEPTLDuI.html

@valentinoferrara9736 Год назад

Great video, I wanted to add that some of the etr 600s and 700s are also made into frecciarossa trains to reach more destinations.

@PokhrajRoy. Год назад

Nice to see a new video from you again! Sorry I haven’t been regular but your videos are awesome 🔥

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

Thanks 😀

@jermainetrainallen6416 Год назад

Thanks for the vid. Great explanation. I really enjoyed my experience of travelling on the Frecciarossa a few years ago. I'd only really been on one train that travelled at that speed before then and that was the Eurostar. Keep up the good work guys👍

@amirmajeed8927 Год назад

you explain very deeply the main three trains of Itallian railways thanks for provides informatic and historic information about train Italia.

@RMTransit Год назад

Excellent video 😅

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

Thanks 😀 A huge coincidence. As if we were releasing videos in a coordinated manner 😅

@alexg91_ssr5 Год назад

Freccia bianca didn't run only ETR460, they used to run mostly E414 and E402b whit UIC-Z coaches. Also frecciargento is becameing a part of frecciarossa

@RailwayNetworks Год назад

Really like the concept of this video, it would be nice to see more videos like this one in the future... 🤗

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

More to come!

@stocks_9750 Год назад

For now all the ETR470 are in Greece and ETR463/485 are in Italy. Trenitalia removed ETR463 tilting mechanics and they are going to do the same with ETR485 soon or later ...

@GeoTSR Год назад

Sadly, "FrecciaBianca" trains are being repainted as IC Sun Livery (The InterCity italian operator) And a few E414s, E402Bs and some coaches are still remaining in FB livery.

@moliseintreno Год назад

I recognised some clips of my dear friend @AdriaticTrainspotting when you start talking about the Etr 460 from the minute 8:29 to 8:45, and from 11:35 to 12:19, you’ve the authorisation to use them or not?

@Lorre982 Год назад

Now freccia argento rebranded as FrecciaRossa in red they are way too cool, freccia bianca now are rebrand as Intercity.

@LucaPasini Год назад

This isn't 100% correct: while all ETR 600 and ETR 700 are now in Frecciarossa livery operating Frecciarossa-branded services, the ETR 485 haven't been rebranded yet, and some Frecciargento services still operate south of Rome with this rolling stock. Similarly, ETR 460 are still operating a few Frecciabianca services from Rome to Ravenna and Genoa/Milan, but nobody knows for how long, or what kind of rolling stock and branding will replace these services.

@johndunbar7504 Год назад

Fantastic video. Thank You .

@TL98 Год назад

as an italian, i hope that more rolling stock in the frecciarossa fleet will equal to less expensive tickets

@paperinik69 Год назад

That's not going to happen, Italian train prices are already quite low Vs most larger European high speed networks, eventually they will increase not decrease

@giogio6974 8 месяцев назад

@@paperinik69 not really, spain has much lower fares with a comparable gdp/capita and france has comparable fares with much higher gdp/capita

@nailil5722 Год назад

they got that drip fr

@EuropeanRailfan Год назад

Trenitalia is now removing the Frecciargento and Frecciabianca brands, so they can invest more in what they want to be the main and only brand for high speed trains, Frecciarossa. As such, the ETR 600 and ETR 700 trains have become part of the Frecciarossa fleet, while the older third-generation Pendolino trains (ETR 485 for Frecciargento and ETR 460 for Frecciabianca) are doing the last few services of the other brands. The ETR 470 trains were built for Cisalpino (joint venture between Trenitalia and SBB) and when it failed, the trains were divided between each operator: 5 for Trenitalia and 4 for SBB. Since 2015 Trenitalia's sets were used on Frecciabianca services until 2020, when they were sent to various shops to be modified for use on the TrainOSE network.

@effeo9962 4 месяца назад

The video, although good, does not focus on the rivalary, which its title leads one to believe. Italian trains have come a long way. I took the Frecciarossa and Frecciargento in 2022, and was very pleased with the service. One improvement I would suggest is WiFi on board, though. It was needlessly complicated.

@tommy_64_20 Год назад

As usual you made a very interesting video, however I think this time your sources are a bit outdated. The biggest issue is that you failed to mention that Trenitalia is revising its Frecce segment: Frecciabianca and Frecciargento services are gradually being eliminated or converted into Frecciarossa services. For this reason Trenitalia rolled out a new uniformed Frecciarossa livery for it's high speed train and currently all ETR700 and a large part of ETR600 are wearing those new colours, as well as some ETR500 and ETR1000. I'm not sure what will happen to Frecciabianca services, but those were already kinda redundant as they were just fancier Intercities. Speaking of Frecciabianca, you failed to mention that that service is provided mainly by compositions of UIC-Z1 coaches either pulled by E464 (previously it was E402B, but I don't think they are used for Frecciabianca anymore) or sandwiched between two E414, locomotives derived from the prototype of the ETR500. It would be great seeing you address these changes in a community post or a future video, perhaps a dedicated one, as it would really show your effort to provide correct information. Keep up the good work 👍🏻

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

Thanks for this information. We will put it into a pinned comment to this video 😀

@GianUbertoLauri 11 месяцев назад

ETR1000 is a very common incorrect designation. It is the ETR400 (ANSFISA rules this, AFAIK), Frecciarossa 1000 is a Trenitalia brand. As said before, calling it Frecciarossa 400 would have suggested something less than pre existing ETR 500.

@dert693 Год назад

A video on the fall of South African Railways (SAR) would be interesting as it seems like South Africa has the only railway system of note within Africa. Also most of Southern Africa used to export their goods via Cape Town, Durban etc. Therefore most of those African countries only had railways that went though SA.

@EntertainmentWorldz Год назад

great train video bro

@Harry93IT Год назад

Such a great video, I was looking forward! honestly can't stand the ETR700, it can't event compare to the stunning and powerful 600 series 😂 AGV are nice, but imo incomparable to ETR1000/500/600

@simonebiuso3098 Год назад

in italy exist another state rail way sistem called ferrovia circumetnea it uses an old set of trains (i think diesel) and a single rail way sistem, the name incates the rail network that is near the enta and services all the near cities is an half circle of mount etna (situated in sicily Catania-Riposto)

@MAURO.464 Год назад

TRENITALIA IS NOW DISMITTING FREGGIARGEBTO SERVICE, IN FACT ETR 700 AND 610 ARE REBRANDING IN FRECCIAROSSA. SOME ERRORS IN THE VIDEO BUT VERY INTERESTING GOOD JOB KEEP GOING IN THIS WAY👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@cyrilio Год назад

This video makes me sad about the Netherlands not really having a high speed train.

@Benito-Musolesi Год назад

Due all holands have the mom working in a vetrine....

@MrJimheeren Год назад

@@Benito-Musolesi dude your joke is so bad. Also learn to spell

@MrJimheeren Год назад

Nederland is toch veel te klein voor echte HST. En we hebben de HSL Zuid. Waar zowel de Thalys als de Eurostar 270 km/h op rijden. En binnenkort de ICNG die gemakkelijk 200 haalt

@Benito-Musolesi Год назад

@@MrJimheeren the only thing they can do is sell the children in vetrines and smoke drug

@tommy_64_20 Год назад

BeNeLux is served by Thalys, now Eurostar. The Netherlands are a relatively small country characterized by urban centers being condensed in the central part of the country so quick connections are possible on normal regional rail. There are videos on RU-vid exploring the Dutch railways, I suggest you to look them up 👍🏻

@tomislavkusanic5572 Год назад

Nice overview. Hopefully you have similar video in the works from Spain, France and Germany

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

We already released that videos in pervious period. You can check it out

@matpk Год назад

@@RailwaysExplainedSouth Korea?

@valerianocuomo996 7 месяцев назад

Super powerfull italy

@CaseysTrains Год назад

Right now TrenItalia is doing a lot of rebranding as other have mentioned but from my understanding, it's broken down like this. Frecciarossa: Will remain the only Le Freece service with ETR 600 and 700s havimg been repainted to Rossa colors. Fecciargento: Disbanded, ETR 480s go to Greece or Intercity Frecciablanca: Disbanded, Will become part of the Intercity brand. There also a few new lines that are being upgraded for high speed service including the Napoli to Bari Corridor and upgrades to Northern Network.

@jre353seriesenjoyer4 Год назад

Trains

@jre353seriesenjoyer4 Год назад

Gender

@mdhazeldine Год назад

It would be great to see videos in this format for all the countries with major high speed networks: China, Spain, France, Germany, UK and even some of the less popular ones.

@kanojune5754 9 месяцев назад

He already made Shinkansen (JP), ICE (DE), TGV (FR), and CRH (CN). Hope to see AVE Spain and KTX Korea tho. I wouldn't include UK in major HSR country.

@mdhazeldine 9 месяцев назад

@@kanojune5754 No I wouldn't include the UK as major HSR either (anymore, now HS2 is being scaled back massively). Typical of the UK. We invented something great and then the rest of the world does it better than us and we suck at it 😂

@valerianocuomo996 7 месяцев назад

Italy dominium

@markotrieste Год назад

Traveled once in a "Cisalpino", pretty unpleasant experience. Very narrow cabin, felt almost like an airplane. On the contrary, ETR500 are really nice, even in the cheaper coaches.

@leog07 4 дня назад

Great video, but I have to correct you about the Frecciarossa1000. ETR1000 is just the commercial name, the train is an ETR400 as you can read on the side of the first coach: 93 83 4 400, 93 identifies the train as an high-speed one, 83 = Italy, 4 identifies the coach, 400 the three digits of the rotary group, so ETR400. If it was ETR1000 you would read 93 83 4 1000.

@Sheba938 Год назад

Kindly feature a video about uks hitachi class 800 trains of gwr & lner so awesome

@federicoviolino6784 Год назад

I see this is italy week, nice nice

@TL98 Год назад

DAJE

@edoardosacconi8391 Год назад

very good italian pronuntiation

@paulthiel5145 Год назад

So, with the ETR600's all being converted into Frecciarossa, does anyone know what will happen now to the ETR610 variants that run the international routes (like to Frankfurt)? Will these be converted to Frecciarossa as well?

@StefanWithTrains3222 Год назад

most likely

@Igi-bd7sf Год назад

Please can you make a video about croatian trains HŽ and HŽPP?

@tylerrow1615 Год назад

I really hope that Trenitalia retires the ETR 485's soon, I recently rode one from Rome to Genova and the ride quality was absolutely horrible. The car vibrated so much at high speed that luggage was falling over and it honestly just felt unsafe!

@matostrainspotting Год назад

Non tilting pendolino it’s a strange name.

@CaseysTrains Год назад

My Italian Girlfriend pointed that out. How are you going to name a train Pendulum and not have it swing?

@Axel.Krs7 Год назад

I was laughing my ass of when they presented the etr470 as “modern” and “top tier” trains. Welcome to Greece 💀☠️

@Andre80.5 Год назад

ETR700 is obsolete with very poor service. There are only 4/5 Toilets, and are not designed for that amount of people and for the length of journey like Milano-Lecce. Air conditioning system is quite bad and also the lounge/bar is not comfortable at all. You can really see that it is a train designed for short distances, exactly like Belgium and Netherlands needs for their railway systems...

@Saurabh_Utter-Pradesh Год назад

I hope u would cover Indian Japan bullet train construction.

@riccardosebis5333 Год назад

Fiat ferroviaria it's part of almost group, in savigliano in effect when he do an AGV, "new pendolino", commissioned by Italian menagement to compete at Trenitalia in effect

@SeverityOne Год назад

So, as a Dutchman who's been following the Fyra saga, are the ETR 700 as problematic as they were in the low countries? A lot of things went wrong with that tender. I blame Dutch hybris: the Dutch have always been very keen on having their own uniquely designed trains, and my perception is that the tender was written in such a way that a whole new train would have to be developed. And that's exactly what happened.

@valerianocuomo996 7 месяцев назад

Idiot dutch ...Fyra is a great trein...in tour in italy,

@daninio5004 Год назад

Being from Belgium it's sad the FYRA (where they V250/ETR700 was meant to operate) project failed... But AnsaldoBreda delivered unfinished products with the V250 which was unsafe en unreliable...

@Benito-Musolesi Год назад

Was a froid from holand that want not pay.... Now are working qith FS Italia All people in holand have mom working in a vetrine...

@stocks_9750 Год назад

Holland fault honestly. After some years of inactiviti and work to put them back to full service, now they are good trains. Not for the toilet ... but for the rest are good enough

@daninio5004 Год назад

@@stocks_9750 the trains were already late on delivery, then when in service had loads of issues... They we're late more and more than on schedule with alot of cancellations... It's unfair to ask to wait another couple of years (after they were late already) and not only NS/NMBS but also the public lost faith in the FYRA... Who would want to take a train that flopped few years prior...

@stocks_9750 Год назад

@@daninio5004 The error was at the beginning of the story. Wrong parameters, wrong trains were built, lot of issues in the pre-exercice were found. I agree with you in some aspect of italian system in doing things, lazyness and other italian caracteristics ... but the error here was in the beginning of Holland Railways. And i tell you from a train-driver perspective who drive ETR700 almost every week that they aren't bad at all, they are even better compared with ETR500. From passenger side, ETR700 has a lot to do ...

@daninio5004 Год назад

@@stocks_9750 That's after years of problem solving mainly technical in order to fix the existing issues

@marco61917 Год назад

it is already out of date.

@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle Год назад

japan has trains with style

@skandy63 24 дня назад

Quando viaggi su Italo sei sicuro che è un vero treno AV e non rischi di trovarti su una baracca di ETR700 (Fyra scartati dal Belgio) traballante travestito da freccia rossa che a malapena raggiunge i 250Kmh

@dreimalnein22 Год назад

Uuuh, so many seconds watching the ETR700 will for sure bring up nightmares in the coming days! Really, the shame of European HSR Nose design..! Followed by the ETR765. The new Japanese JR East E8 is also quite horrible (compared to it's siblings E5, E6 & E7), but at least in the max tele objective perspective good looking: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bcmhWMCK2N4.html At least, E8 is an improvement over the similar looking E2. And i speak about the train operator with the over all most beautiful color schemes in the world.

@Lorre982 Год назад

Now etr700 and 600 have new livery the same of frecciarossa take a look, surch frecciaargento new livery

@dreimalnein22 Год назад

@@Lorre982 its not the livery. Its the front design, 1000 times worst than the spanish duck face or the Japanese could ever do. Actually, the Japanese are a class of their own in design language... while the recent beautiful CRRC superhigh speed rail designs remind me more towards European ones.

@MrJimheeren Год назад

I kinda like that ugly nose. It’s just so out there. And the aerodynamic are actually quite good

@paolocarpi4769 Год назад

Don't you know the story behind the ETR700 nose design? You have to ask Nederland's Railway client ... They explicitly wanted the traditional old style Netherlandish horrible train nose. If I had been in Ansaldo I would have refused to draw such an ugly nose, rather I would have given up the contract. But much of the problems with that train originated from the main mistake Ansaldo made with the Client: to indulge too much its claims. That's my opinion. About the ETR765... It's like the SUV version of a HSR train.

@mobilitatv Год назад

Avete visto anche gli ultimi lavori sulla tratta Brescia Verona? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6ejD6FIG4O8.html

@ce1834 Год назад

Dutch and Belgians about to get PTSD from the sight of V250s here 💀

@RailwaysExplained Год назад

Good one 😅

@nervun8097 Год назад

Oh no... The mayhem of the greek pendolinos was mentioned in a Railways Explained video. How embarrasing..... 😅

@samuele5531 Год назад

sadly it's a very outdated video

@SANYISZTAL Год назад

🐈‍⬛

@karthik_silkroads 9 месяцев назад

unhelpful

@PikkaBite Год назад

Frecciarossa and co. are famous for being always late, although they are HSTs. Also the on board service is usually poor. If you are up to choose, always take Italo! EDIT: Just to be absolutely clear, I am italian myself and I regularly use both Trenitalia (regionali and frecce) and Italo.

@superj8502 Год назад

This is just a stereotype

@intersezioni Год назад

always late? hahahaha you are jealous right? TROLL!

@heidirabenau511 Год назад

*Deustche Bahn has left the chat*

@intersezioni Год назад

@@superj8502 e quell'altro pirla che mette pure la spunta!

@tariklyacoubi8197 Год назад

I use Italo more than freccia rossa because of the price not because they are late. I took both several times and just 1 time we where late of 5 min...

@Travel-by-Train 3 месяца назад

Italy Railway is really good. Also the Country Landscape is unique and the Food is delicious. 🍓🍓🍓Travel by Train

@valerianocuomo996 6 месяцев назад

Italy is not England, an isla insignificant, london super rich, homeless to Birmingham Manchester walles, obesys, redfaces ridiculess, stip gelouse uk versus italy

@user-vp2tr3hh5s Год назад

ВМЕСТО РЕСТОРАНА В ПОЕЗДАХ СССР - НУЖНО ПОСТАВИТЬ - ВАГОН СПОРТИВНЫЙ : БИЛЬЯРДНЫЕ СТОЛЫ И ТЕННИСНЫЕ СТОЛЫ И ИГРЫ РАЗНЫЕ . ИГРОВЫЕ АВТОМАТЫ КАК В АЭРОПОРТУ ДНЕПРА БЫЛО. А ИГРА В КАРТЫ , ДОМИНО , ШАШКИ - ЧТОБ СКУЧНО НЕ БЫЛО - В КУПЕ ВЫДАВАТЬ.

@user-vp2tr3hh5s Год назад

НАДО ЕЗДИТЬ МАКСИМАЛЬНО КОМФОРТНО , А НЕ МАКСИМАЛЬНО БЫСТРО. ЕСЛИ В НОРМАЛЬНОМ КУПЕ БУДЕТ И СВОЙ ДУШ И СВОЙ ТУАЛЕТ И СВОЙ УМЫВАЛЬНИК И СТОЛОВАЯ ВКУСНАЯ ПО ВРЕМЕНИ , А НЕ РЕСТОРАН И НЕ ЕДА С УЛИЦ ОТ НЕИЗВЕСТНО КОГО , ТО - ПОЕЗДКА В ВАГОНЕ НА ЛЮБЫЕ РАССТОЯНИЯ ПО СССР - БУДЕТ ОЧЕНЬ И ОЧЕНЬ ПРИЯТНОЙ.

@Hastdupech8509 Год назад

Why the hell should I want a shower on a 3-hours long ride lmao. That's something for night trains, or the excruciatingly old and slow day trains Russia can boast nowadays. Over here, we have both.