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Italians in the Battle of Britain - RAF Finally Shows Up 

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After the initial air raids of the Corpo Aereo Italiano (Italian Air Corps) against Britain in which no RAF fighters were met, things changed on 11 November 1940. Two Hurricane and one Spitfire squadron opposed the attackers and caused them significant losses. But how heavy were the overclaims? And did the Italian CR.42 biplane fighters shoot down any RAF airplanes? Find out in this video.
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@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner 2 месяца назад
The BR20 had quite a sophisticated bombsight, when compared to the British WW1 era "Mechano, steel rulers & string" contraptions utilised on all British bombers, at the time. The BR20's bombsight was directly linked to the aircraft's altimeter and automatically self recalibrated, if the altitude changed during the bomb run. Something that neither German, American, British or Soviet bombsight could do. Anyone who has flown the BR20 in IL-2 Cliffs of Dover - Blitz, will be very familiar with this very useful feature.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for providing info!
@pierluigiadreani2159
@pierluigiadreani2159 2 месяца назад
Having great "optionals" but missing the bigger picture (for instance armament and engines) is a tradition of our military procurement.
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 2 месяца назад
@@pierluigiadreani2159 True, or at least until the Fiat G.55 and Macchi C.202/C.205 were developed, although they were dependent on imported Daimler Benz DB.601/605 engines.
@user-ij5lc1kw8r
@user-ij5lc1kw8r 2 месяца назад
Viva Italia!
@tacfoley4443
@tacfoley4443 2 месяца назад
Meccano is the correct name.
@frankguz55
@frankguz55 2 месяца назад
It takes some guts to attack a Spitfire in a CR42...
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Yes, you could say so.
@honkhonkler7732
@honkhonkler7732 2 месяца назад
Should be an easy Spit win assuming the pilot uses vertical tactics instead of turn fighting as they might try with German fighters.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 2 месяца назад
Well, at least the Fiat CR42 could out-turn the Spifire! (And the Hurricane.) So if the British pilot yanked hard on his control column and went into a tight turn, bleeding off a lot of speed (an evasive tactic which would always work against a Me 109), he might find himself a sitting duck with that CR42 still right on his tail...
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 2 месяца назад
@@honkhonkler7732 : Yes, but in November 1940 the RAF had a lot of inexperienced pilots, who were replacements for heavy losses in the Battle...
@cpj93070
@cpj93070 2 месяца назад
@@timonsolus Wrong Britain had it's well rounded batch of Pilots who by this stage were well trained as taking part in both the battle of France and Britain by this stage.
@chrisward7085
@chrisward7085 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the video. When I was an ATC cadet at Biggin Hill, the CR42 was in the museaum hangar. We were supposed to clean the aircraft but actually played with them. I've sat in the CR42 cockpit!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing. I envy you for that experience :)
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 2 месяца назад
You lucky bastard. I am telling on you!
@simoncampbell-smith6745
@simoncampbell-smith6745 2 месяца назад
One can't doubt the bravery of the Italian crews flying less than first rate aircraft against a well trained, veteran determined enemy.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I agree, thank you for commenting!
@Baltimore813
@Baltimore813 2 месяца назад
Bravery or fascist stupidity?
@jozefbubez6116
@jozefbubez6116 2 месяца назад
Yes, but this was, I think, Mussolini's one and only attempt to show Hitler that he could 'do his bit'. Strategically, it acheived absolutely nothing resulting in loss of life that may otherwise have been avoided!
@luismartincagnonemendez3467
@luismartincagnonemendez3467 2 месяца назад
Sooo a los italianos se le puede pintar un avión camuflado en tonos verdes en minas el cielos es celeste o gris jajajaj
@roykliffen9674
@roykliffen9674 2 месяца назад
In all three military disciplines, the Italians actually showed real bravery but were often let down by incompetent leadership or subpar equipment , be it tanks, aircraft, or ships, although their submarine division was punching above its weight. As a result the Italian forces in WW2 are often ridiculed, just like the French, even though the latter fought fierce battles against the superior tactics the Germans employed, actually sacrificing many to allow the British retreat from Dunkirk to become a "success".
@kevinl1492
@kevinl1492 2 месяца назад
My late mother grew up in Maidstone, Kent. In 1941 she was only 16 but she would tell a story later about the Italian Airforce bombing the center of Maidstone trying to hit the bridges over the River Medway. The Italian Air Force roundal looked like the RAF roundal and some people thought the planes were British. So they ignored the air raid sirens - until bombs started falling. I am not sure if she was actually there or she just heard about it. She was evacuated to Yorkshire during the blitz.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing the story!
@i.setyawan
@i.setyawan 2 месяца назад
Can't wait to see the last episode! Biplanes, when expertly flown can be hard to kill in a dogfight due to their agility. They may not be able to make a kill, though. Another excellent video. Keep up the good work!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your support. Yes, monoplane pilots still had to be careful when entering dogfights with biplanes.
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 2 месяца назад
In terms of mono wing fighters, the Italian airframes were actually pretty good. It was engines and firepower that let them down. Later in the war the Italians put German in line engines into their fighters, and for a hurried adaptation performed very well, among the best of the war. I think a lot of people tend to focus too much on how well a fighter aircraft performed, particularly in a one on one furball. Whereas who wins a fight was more depended on who saw who first and who held the height advantage. Formation tactics were important too.
@Briselance
@Briselance Месяц назад
You can see the other first, you can fly higher than the other. If you fly a CR-42 and you're looking at Hurricanes or Spitfires or, worse, against Mustangs, just scoot off and hope they haven't spotted you.
@trent847
@trent847 2 месяца назад
It is to the credit of the flying skill and determination of the Italian pilots that they all weren’t shot down during that encounter. Only one Falco biplane fighter was actually shot down with the other two were forced down due to mechanical problems. Those pilots of the Regia Aeronautica were just as brave as any of the Luftwaffe or Royal Air Force pilots who participated in the battle. The Italian fighter pilots and bomber crews didn’t want to be there but they did their duty in their weak under armed bombers and slow short ranged fighters with open cockpits while lacking radios only to be looked down upon with disdain from their German allies. They don’t deserve ridicule only respect.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Italian pilots were asked to do way too much by their leadership and I agree, they deserve respect.
@roymeadows1708
@roymeadows1708 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 Exactly this. Italian armed forces were not cowards..They were lead by idiots who couldn`t organise a piss up in a brewery.
@shaddaboop7998
@shaddaboop7998 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 They were fighting for fascism and terror bombing civilians. Brave certainly, and I respect that they were following orders, but this is bordering on veneration. Be careful with that.
@beachcomber1able
@beachcomber1able 2 месяца назад
What about the RAF "terror flieger"? They killed a few innocent civilians that never put Hitler in power.
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 2 месяца назад
Bologni. The missions were all a big failure. Minimum damage and lost most of the airplanes. And many pilots claimed failures and turned back for nothing. See at beginning most of the best planes "turned back "because of the weather". Paper Tigers..
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 2 месяца назад
I had no idea that CR.42 in the museum at Hendon was downed over British skies. I have my own pictures of it. As for pilot Blatchford, he had an airfield named after him in North Edmonton, up until about 2015ish time frame. Very cool.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the feedback!
@thecrow3380
@thecrow3380 2 месяца назад
That's right: Harwich is pronounced as "Harrich". There are many English place-names like this; my favorite being Happisburg, which is spoken as "Hays-borough". You get used to it, as a Brit, and if you're not a Brit, you never do get used to it (:>
@noelmajers6369
@noelmajers6369 2 месяца назад
True enough. Speaking as a British person, I have never struggled with them. Although the etymology is weird, there is also an indecipherable logic to British place names which arises from the evolution of the English language which is only partly phonetic. For a foreigner who really wants to get them right I would suggest that just learning them one by one.
@KABModels
@KABModels 2 месяца назад
*Happisburgh
@mwrkhan
@mwrkhan 2 месяца назад
Not just place names. Featherstonehaugh is pronounced Fanshaw.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
You might be right about never getting used to it 😁
@thecrow3380
@thecrow3380 2 месяца назад
@@KABModels How did that get by me? Age surely creepeth up!
@andrewstackpool4911
@andrewstackpool4911 2 месяца назад
The grit and determination of both sides warrants admiration especially the Italians in what were obsolete aircraft. That said, as the Gloster Gladiator proved in the desert and at Malta, properly coordinated and with tighter turning circles, biplanes could hold their own against more modern aircraft including 109s
@ronaldhenderson8803
@ronaldhenderson8803 2 месяца назад
Got to admit the Italians had a cool camo sheme
@razgriz380
@razgriz380 2 месяца назад
It's actually very similar to the German spring offensive camo. Likely took cues from their axis ally. Not all that's surprising seeing as it was intended for the Mediterranean. But attractive nonetheless.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
It's pretty original, that's for sure.
@doktor_spritz9344
@doktor_spritz9344 2 месяца назад
Always a great day when you load up a video
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
It's very nice to hear, thank you!
@alexhatfield2987
@alexhatfield2987 2 месяца назад
I’m English. I’ve been speaking English for about 60years and even after all that time, it’s STILL often grammatically inexplicable. Your pronunciation is just fine “Showtime.”
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the comment! I don't think anyone will ever find logical explanation for some of language 'rules'. English is not exactly the only such language but it tends to be a little more confusing than your average language 😁
@michaeldowd8422
@michaeldowd8422 2 месяца назад
Arse kisser lol
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 'Cough', 'though', rough', through' are examples of how 'ough' is pronounced differently according to convention. Now try 'Slough' ... 😂😂
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 2 месяца назад
No, it is NOT just fine. It is wrong. Stand in the corner with your underpants on your head and contemplate the error of your ways.
@martinbrode7131
@martinbrode7131 2 месяца назад
Experiences with it?😂​@@thisisnumber0
@alvarvillalongamarch3894
@alvarvillalongamarch3894 2 месяца назад
Those poor Italians didn't stand a chance with that kind of equipment!Shame on their superiors,who sent them on an almost suicidal mission.The CR42 was an excellent fighter for it's time,but underpowered and undergunned.You can outmanoeuver the Hurricains,but you can't chase them or escape.Sad story.Sorry for the Reggia Aeronautica.No match.
@murrayangus
@murrayangus 2 месяца назад
A little known aspect of the Battle of Britian and very interesting indeed. Great video!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I'm happy you liked it, thank you!
@alastairward2774
@alastairward2774 2 месяца назад
The title suggests the RAF had to cut tea short and grumpily get to their planes.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Well, if you watch the first part, it becomes clear 😁
@joeshmoe9978
@joeshmoe9978 2 месяца назад
😁
@photoisca7386
@photoisca7386 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 Just another foreigner hating the British. The title is designed to attract like-minded souls.
@aleks1939
@aleks1939 2 месяца назад
@@photoisca7386 No pudding for you! Not until you eat your meat!
@rainerbehrendt9330
@rainerbehrendt9330 2 месяца назад
@@photoisca7386 What's wrong? Not enough Tea?
@waynemathias8074
@waynemathias8074 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the superbly detailed sim reenactment. There were quite a few aircraft on all sides that were outclassed, but imagine the stories the survivors could've told afterward. "There I was, in a open cockpit biplane with two machine guns... Allorraaa!"
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and appreciating the video! I'm sure it was quite 'exciting' for the biplane pilots 😁
@aceshigh234
@aceshigh234 2 месяца назад
The Italian pronounciation is on point, very well done!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the feedback!
@MiG-31893
@MiG-31893 2 месяца назад
Excellent as always! You are getting much better at syncing the narration with the film! I was wondering if you could make a video at some point on the combat record of the Fiat G.55? Apparently it was said to be the best fighter in the axis. If the TA-152 was the ultimate German fighter, then the Fiat G.55 was the ultimate Italian fighter. The Fiat arrived too late to fight for Italy, but fought in the ANR forces agains the allies. Anyway I hope this video preforms well (it should do)!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the positive comment! G.55 would be an interesting story for sure. I have to check what kind of an info is available on it.
@andrewmorke
@andrewmorke 2 месяца назад
The Gloster Gladiator, a biplane, clashed with Italian aircraft in North Africa.
@Heylanda-fb9xb
@Heylanda-fb9xb 2 месяца назад
As well as the Soviets on the Eastern Front in the early years with their Polikarpov I-15 and PO-2 "bomber".
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Also in Greece and Malta.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 2 месяца назад
Read the biography of the South African RAF ace, Pat Pattle.
@travelbugse2829
@travelbugse2829 2 месяца назад
I believe some who flew both biplanes reckoned the CR42 had an edge over its British rival.
@rvieira8057
@rvieira8057 2 месяца назад
@@Heylanda-fb9xb You mean the I-153, I think. The I-15 was used in the Spanish Civil War.
@DC.409
@DC.409 2 месяца назад
Look into the East Africa war, this commenced between Italy and DUKE forces (Dominion,UK and Empire) June 1940, the RAF and RAAF were outnumbered by the East African Italian Air Force. Interestingly whilst the bombers were quite modern, the fighters on both sides were biplanes DUKE fury, gladiators . DUKE quickly addressed this with Hurricane, Battle and Mohawk because the Fiat fighters outperformed the Gladiator. It was effectively an holding action until 6 November 1940, when the DUKE forces attacked.
@sleepingrabbit4011
@sleepingrabbit4011 2 месяца назад
This is absolutely fascinating. I did not know anything about the Italians fighting over Britain.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Watch the first part as well, the initial part of their operations is described as well.
@ewok40k
@ewok40k 2 месяца назад
dont bring a biplane to a spitfire fight...
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
An old Latin proverb? 😁
@rainerbehrendt9330
@rainerbehrendt9330 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 An irish one. Mallone from the Untouchables.
@user-uy3bj9ue5c
@user-uy3bj9ue5c 2 месяца назад
😂
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 месяца назад
Yet do bring a biplane to a battleship fight...
@williamkoppos7039
@williamkoppos7039 2 месяца назад
@@rainerbehrendt9330 Also referring to italians
@user-uy3bj9ue5c
@user-uy3bj9ue5c 2 месяца назад
Why did the more modern fighter go back when the biplanes carried on in the bad weather?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Not sure but I think they were not based in the same airfield so weather might have been better for the CR.42s and the bombers.
@jimboll6982
@jimboll6982 2 месяца назад
Germans thought " Fuck this" not being shot down on Harwich.
@fastmover2598
@fastmover2598 2 месяца назад
The little-known Regina Aeronautica's involvement didn't provide any definitive, lasting impact, but it did offer a benefit to its German ally. At the very least, the Italian involvement forced the British to dedicate resources (aircraft, anti-aircraft batteries, manpower, etc.) to defend an area that wasn't as strategically vital. Also, militaries, in general, learn valuable lessons from both minor engagements and short-term campaigns.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Good point, offensive action always ties down enemy resources.
@yveaux500
@yveaux500 2 месяца назад
Truly brilliant stuff (as always) Hope you will do a video once on how the Dutch army aviation fought against the Luftwaffe in may 1940. Some heroic stuff here and there with outdated equipment.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you! The Dutch aviation against Luftwaffe is on my 'to do' list. I believe we have the airplanes used, I just need to see what kind of details are available.
@yveaux500
@yveaux500 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 that is truly great to hear. If you need any help with the research or things like prenounciations please let me know.
@mfuller1093
@mfuller1093 2 месяца назад
RAF squardrons numbers are always described in numbers , for example ''617 squadron and are never described in words like ''six hundred and seventeen.
@bobdylan7120
@bobdylan7120 2 месяца назад
Not true, especially for those with double digit numbers and even some with triple digit. For example, 111 Squadron was always known as "Treble one" and 29 Squadron was referred to as "Twenty Nine" (Odd fact, their squadron markings are XXX, which is 30 in roman numerals).
@andrewwaller5913
@andrewwaller5913 2 месяца назад
41 Sqn and 54 Sqn are said as Forty One and Fifty Four so not always the case. There are variations.
@jimsaintamour2
@jimsaintamour2 2 месяца назад
Bang up job as usual! I can only imagine how long it takes for you to make these videos.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the financial support! These videos are a full time effort. This one was slightly more complicated as there were many small and rather specific scenes to do.
@akikominagawa2075
@akikominagawa2075 2 месяца назад
Thank you for covering this topic! I appreciate this so much. It's not something we ever learned about in the UK curriculum and I doubt many people know back there.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and appreciating it!
@rezzoc91
@rezzoc91 2 месяца назад
I had the pleasure to know Giuseppe Ruzzin. I made his wiki page in ligurian as well.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing!
@ColinFreeman-kh9us
@ColinFreeman-kh9us 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the effort you put in brother, really interesting story of these men that is sadly not known.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and for providing a positive feedback! Yes, this story is somewhat overlooked.
@romanbrough
@romanbrough Месяц назад
I read an autobiography many years ago by an RAF Hurricane pilot who fought against the Italian air force in 1940. He said of the CR42 words to the effect. They were very manoeuvrable aircraft often skillfully flown. But if you gave them a squirt from 8 Brownings, then they just fell to out of the sky.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 месяца назад
Incidentally the reason for the variation in English pronounciation is easily explainable because of the various races invaded, built, named things and then had them renamed by others doing the same thing several times over the centuries. East Anglian towns and Northern English towns were originally roman, renamed by the Angles and saxons and then formed part of the Danelaw until their the various kindoms formed into England.
@oscarvi3232
@oscarvi3232 2 месяца назад
Great work Showtime. Love the detail.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thanks, details are very important in these stories (when you can find them).
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 2 месяца назад
The courage of the crews should never be forgotten.
@ilaser4064
@ilaser4064 2 месяца назад
And the stupidity of their leader...
@user-ij5lc1kw8r
@user-ij5lc1kw8r 2 месяца назад
Nor their stupidity1
@anselmdanker9519
@anselmdanker9519 2 месяца назад
Great presentation thank you
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I'm glad you appreciate it!
@anthroderick5383
@anthroderick5383 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the great vídeo!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@mediapartners9950
@mediapartners9950 2 месяца назад
Another great video many thanks 👍🏻
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for watching!
@branka4226
@branka4226 2 месяца назад
Nice video!
@adamcooper2211
@adamcooper2211 2 месяца назад
Great video!!! Please do the third part with CR.42s Vs Spitfires - the Italian participation in the Battle of Britain is so often overlooked!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the feedback, third part coming out this Saturday.
@Spitfiresammons
@Spitfiresammons 2 месяца назад
The Italian air Force during the Battle of Britain campaign must be a total disaster for Mussolin great story. Please do the F-51 Mustang vs Yak-9P during the Korea war.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
It is generally considered a big failure. As for your Korea suggestion, yes I've been wanting to cover some of that stuff for a while.
@Heylanda-fb9xb
@Heylanda-fb9xb 2 месяца назад
The only branch of Regia Aeronautica that was successful in their missions was their torpedo bomber team utilizing SM.79 aircraft. Otherwise, they are remembered in the history book as a joke.
@bdleo300
@bdleo300 2 месяца назад
What a terrible decision to call off escorts but not cancel the mission.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Agreed. A similar thing happened to Italian Tornado mission in Operation Desert Storm. The support was cancelled but nobody told them and one Tornado was shot down.
@leighjones5551
@leighjones5551 2 месяца назад
great video and a lot of research to produce this great work
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your feedback, thank you!
@williamkoppos7039
@williamkoppos7039 2 месяца назад
Your presentations are Very Good
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I appreciate that, thank you!
@dillonhunt1720
@dillonhunt1720 2 месяца назад
"WITNESS ME!!!!" -Flight Lieutenant Blachford probably
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 2 месяца назад
Another pronunciation thing: in British and Commonwealth forces, the rank 'Lieutenant' is pronounced 'lef-tenant' rather than 'loo-tenant'.
@nor0845
@nor0845 2 месяца назад
Interesting video. Thank you for posting.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@VC27
@VC27 Месяц назад
Hey there Showtime112. Been away for some time. I see that your recantation, historical accuracy and graphics have improved even more over the last year. Keep up the great work!
@showtime112
@showtime112 Месяц назад
Good to hear you are back. And I appreciate your positive opinion! More content on the way.
@VC27
@VC27 Месяц назад
@@showtime112 - More power to you Buddy.
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 2 месяца назад
The internet in my work lunchroom is so sh**y I will have to wait till later to view this video. Oh the humanity. 😭 But watch it later I will !!
@jebblinne3273
@jebblinne3273 2 месяца назад
Excellent video!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@juancarlosperezcortes9259
@juancarlosperezcortes9259 2 месяца назад
Marellous video. Everytime is a new history class
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your feedback!
@kruno1861
@kruno1861 2 месяца назад
Great video as always
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Appreciate that, thank you!
@jerrymail
@jerrymail 2 месяца назад
Your videos often make me want to build a model. I have on my list the Honduran Corsair, Israeli Avia S-199, the Egyptian FIAT G.55 .... Now the FIAT BR.20 "Cigogna". 😃 Unfortunately, I have a lot of models to do and not a lot of time to do them. 👍👍👍 Keep up the good work 👍👍👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you again! I understand your problem, I have the same one with video topics. So many ideas and so little time to realize them :)
@soumadip_skyy_banerjee
@soumadip_skyy_banerjee 2 месяца назад
Another awesome video by my favourite Croatian! :)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you, glad you liked this one!
@leemiles3995
@leemiles3995 2 месяца назад
This series is really good! Keep going with part 3 please 🙏
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you, Part 3 coming up this Saturday.
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 2 месяца назад
Not exactly the most auspicious start if that is how one's first real engagement with the enemy went. Biplanes fighters have no place in that theatre against Hurricanes and Spitfires with modern communications. 1:26 Got a good laugh at that, the English naming convention is weird. Good video.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for commenting! Biplanes could have augmented the fighter cover but alone like that, they couldn't do too much.
@exocet1
@exocet1 2 месяца назад
Check out the book "Chianti Raiders" The British loved going through downed Br.20 because they carried loaves of bread and Chianti..funny now looking at video you can see British pilots holding captured Chainti bottles and italian helmets :)
@RealDarko
@RealDarko 2 месяца назад
Beautiful reenactment. Brave crews on both sides.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the comment and for a pretty long subscription!
@danhubert-hx4ss
@danhubert-hx4ss 2 месяца назад
Very interesting vid as per usual.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the feedback!
@lorenzodelfino5894
@lorenzodelfino5894 2 месяца назад
Excellent video (as usual)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I'm happy you think so, thanks!
@giacomomeluzzi280
@giacomomeluzzi280 2 месяца назад
It's rare to find someone making the effort of pronouncing our names correctly, thanks!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the feedback! I said it wrong in the first video and I got dozens of comments about it :)
@roberts1938
@roberts1938 2 месяца назад
A very carefully prepared film. A lot of work. Thank you very much. In Polish materials, Karol Pniak shot down 1 and 1/2 Fiat Br-20 that day Exists a photo Karol Pniak with trophies from the second plane that was attacked. The first one actually fell into the sea. The pilots of 257 Squadron had a photo session with the same trophies. It would be nice if you included a photo of Karol Pniak with the film. He appears to be the most likely pilot to shoot down the BR-20 that day. I will send the links to your email because YT blocks other links.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for commenting and for sending the email. I've looked at the links last night.
@robijnbruinsma4489
@robijnbruinsma4489 2 месяца назад
Thorough and fair account.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Glad you think so, thank you!
@lesterbuckman5493
@lesterbuckman5493 2 месяца назад
Awesome! look forward to more great content
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your positive feedbaack!
@donparker1823
@donparker1823 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you once again for the financial support!
@falkonsix
@falkonsix 2 месяца назад
Interesting episode well presented............many thanks.
@SNP-1999
@SNP-1999 Месяц назад
Battle of Britain fighter ace Stanford Tuck was really impressed with the flying skills the Italian pilots showed in their Fiat biplanes, if not exactly with their aggressiveness.
@user-pi4wj7bm4z
@user-pi4wj7bm4z 2 месяца назад
An interesting historical video. The archive information is outstanding and I hope to see more of your work. Greg in Canada 🇨🇦.. 😊.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the positive feedback! Check out older videos if you missed them and final chapter of this story is coming up on Saturday.
@gemellodipriapo
@gemellodipriapo 2 месяца назад
Great vid! Thank you! But I think you need to highlight the obsolescence of the Italian aircraft ... biplanes with no radios etc ... otherwise you run the risk of this inadvertently becoming a wankfest for flag waving triumphalists ... What is interesting though is the success the Italian air force had in North Africa, the Med and East Africa with a variety of planes. There were several Italian biplane aces such as Tenente Carlo Canella and the better known Capitano Mario Visintini
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the comment! This video is pretty much intended to be watched after part one in which more details about the airplanes themselves are given. I made a video about Mario Visintini too, a while ago, maybe this will encourage people who missed it to watch it.
@grahvis
@grahvis 2 месяца назад
It was the end of the idea that agility would overcome speed. The Soviets made the same mistake at the start of their air battles.
@gemellodipriapo
@gemellodipriapo 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 I must watch! Thank you!
@sixgunsymphony7408
@sixgunsymphony7408 2 месяца назад
Brits were still using Gloster Gladiator fighters in the early years of WWII
@gemellodipriapo
@gemellodipriapo 2 месяца назад
@@sixgunsymphony7408Yawn! The RAF was indeed employing knackered old Glads but not over “this green and pleasant land”, They were employed in secondary theatres like East Africa where pilots like Visentini were shooting them down with gusto.
@gunnergoz
@gunnergoz 2 месяца назад
Excellent video, thanks!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Glad you liked it, thank you!
@JimmyPeaTV
@JimmyPeaTV 2 месяца назад
Great vid, and full of great information. I was born on 11th November. We always celebrate Remembrance Day and my birthday at the UKs Battle of Britain Memorial 👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your feedback!
@ralphscholer7345
@ralphscholer7345 2 месяца назад
Incredible !!! One more masterpiece of Your air war videos!! And You bring more Light on the operations of the REGGIA AEORONAUTICA in WW II . I'm interested espacially in the Italian Air Force.And I don't know about that bad experience of Musolini's pilot's agains't RAF. First Time ,You bring this to me !! Brilliant video and naration by Your smooth voice ! Also brilliant.the camouflage of the Italian planes ! As a model builder I love it,and now from Your video,I have some more new impressions for my Hobby. Many, many Thanks for this good stuff...YOU ARE THE BEST...
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for this inspired comment! Italian Air Force is often overlooked (and ridiculed) but I'd say they were an important part of the whole story. I seem to inspire model builders a lot recently :)
@rickbear7249
@rickbear7249 28 дней назад
"Blott on the Landscape", by Tom Sharpe, tells the incredible story of one of these Italian bomber crews.
@bjornsmith9431
@bjornsmith9431 2 месяца назад
The unknown Battle of Britain the Italian Air force vs the British Air force.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Exactly. Thank you for another comment!
@jdsaldivar5606
@jdsaldivar5606 2 месяца назад
82ND AIRBORNE I am not an Ambassador...can I still watch??
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Nope, it's not allowed :)
@jdsaldivar5606
@jdsaldivar5606 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 82ND AIRBORNE Damn!! That was Strong!!
@TheFergie9
@TheFergie9 2 месяца назад
My father joined 603 City of Edinburgh in Hornchurch just after The Battle of Britain, and in 41 they returned to Turnhouse in Scotland..thrilled to see them mentioned
@themajesticmagnificent386
@themajesticmagnificent386 2 месяца назад
Brilliant video and more please to complete this subject🇬🇧👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Part 3 coming up this Saturday.
@c.morees9698
@c.morees9698 2 месяца назад
That CR42 was quite a plane! The fight also shows the arnament of the Hurricanes where more effective against the bombers than the arnament of the Spitfires.
@bryanwheeler1608
@bryanwheeler1608 2 месяца назад
It was common practice during the Battle of Britain for the Hurricanes to attack the bombers & the Spitfires take on the escort, which was normally BF109s, & the fairly ineffectual 110s.
@bobbyricigliano2799
@bobbyricigliano2799 2 месяца назад
"Our state of the art BF-109 fighters are turning back due to weather. But those Fiat Biplanes should be just fine."
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
It's one of the consequences of not having radios.
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 2 месяца назад
I liked that video! Thanks for all the effort you put into the production. Something different. I have seen the fighter at Hendon, but I didn't know the history of it. I always thought them rather cool bi-planes from another era.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for the positive feedback!
@delcatto60
@delcatto60 2 месяца назад
Two good books about Italian aircraft over Britain and East Africa: The Chianti Raiders by Peter Haining and Air War East Africa 1940 - 41 by Jon Sutherland and Diane Canwell. Great video, thank you.
@joeshmoe9978
@joeshmoe9978 2 месяца назад
Luigi sees Spitfires: "Mama Mia!!!"😯
@peteuist
@peteuist 2 месяца назад
superb video as always, if you think Harwich is pronounced weirdly try Milngavie
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the feedback! To be honest, I have no idea how to pronounce that 😁
@wolfganggugelweith8760
@wolfganggugelweith8760 2 месяца назад
Brave Italian pilots!
@KABModels
@KABModels 2 месяца назад
The correct pronunciation of RAF Squadrons are as follows: from 1-100 Squadrons, 20 squadron, 55 squadron, 87 squadron, from 100-600 odd, one oh one squadron, two four two squadron, six one seven squadron etc. there is never a TH after the RAF Squadron numbers. there is no such squadron as 'the sixth hundreth and seventeenth squadron' its Six-one-seven Squadron, and no such squadron as 'the fiftyfith squadron' Its 55 squadron. Hope this helps :)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Brits and their 'correct' ways to pronounce things 😁 But thanks!
@heneagedundas
@heneagedundas 2 месяца назад
​@showtime112 It is correct for the RAF, but there's no suggestion or implication this is correct for other airforces.
@KABModels
@KABModels 2 месяца назад
@@heneagedundas im sorry, did i even mention other air forces?
@heneagedundas
@heneagedundas 2 месяца назад
​@@KABModelsNope. But I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to Showtime and the possibility he thought this was a naming method we British think should be universally applied. I agree with everything you said, and have been making the same point myself over the years.
@tonyadeney1245
@tonyadeney1245 2 месяца назад
have read accounts of spitfire pilots flying straight past stuka dive bombers in an attack ... not realising how slow they were ..... friend who is a pilot said a biplane is more difficult to hit than many realise -- and they can turn extremely well --- and even if hit bullets just go through as most of it is canvas ... harwich prononciation ----- UK --- many are surprised how many place names are spoken completely differently to spelling --- partly comes about because of origins of english which is a bizarre mixture of saxon french celtic roman ancient english and so on and a variety of other languages --------- we even have the same names said differently in different places gillingham kent ---- gillingham dorset /// add in regional accents -- BUT essex is odd as it has around 20 towns where visitors always say the name wrong ... ... my theory is that its done as a joke to annoy the tourists ......
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
I agree about the pronunciation theory, it definitely sounds like a joke 😁😁😁 Thank you for commenting!
@brainyskeletonofdoom7824
@brainyskeletonofdoom7824 2 месяца назад
14:10 WOW! Ruzzin was a family friend and ive left a comment about his Memories of the Battle under the First video of the series! This shows that the videos are very well researched
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your comment! I was using research of other people but there is a lot of info regarding this battle.
@tomtaylor6163
@tomtaylor6163 2 месяца назад
Wow thanks for this. I never knew about the Italians. I do love Italian machinery and women.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the comment! There was a bunch of older video about Italian Air Force in WW2, check them out if you missed them.
@johnforrester9120
@johnforrester9120 2 месяца назад
Even hurricanes can take out biplanes lol
@mootpointjones8488
@mootpointjones8488 2 месяца назад
Good video, thanks 👍 I have seen the CR42 at Hendon, a graceful bi-plane.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for commenting, I hope to go to Hendon someday!
@r2gelfand
@r2gelfand 2 месяца назад
And the RAF Pilots went home to tea and medals.
@ianbeale2527
@ianbeale2527 2 месяца назад
Most British would pronounce Harwich in the way it is spelled, despite the W being silent. We have lots of names like Bicester being pronounced Bister etc. If you know, you know. Another great video. Now subbed.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for that info. And for subscribing. The pronunciation it was a bit of a joke since in the first video, I pronounced the 'w' and I got dozens of comments explaining how the w is silent 😁
@ryanbluer6098
@ryanbluer6098 2 месяца назад
You have to admire the bravery of any pilot who is willing to get into a dogfight flying a Biplane again Hurricanes and Spitfires or like our brave Swordfish pilots attacking a modern battleship like the Bizmarck or the Italian fleet at Torantto
@denerumsby6789
@denerumsby6789 2 месяца назад
Great video which you obviously put a lot of hard work and research into- thank you You also do an admirable job pronouncing our sometimes almost indecipherable spelling! Just an observation that i hope you will take in the spirit with which it's sent regarding RAF squadron reference convention If the squadron is a single digit number then the convention is to put the word "number" in front of it eg Number One squadron For double digit numbers the convention is to say them as the counting number eg 23 squadron is referred to as twenty three squadron Once you get past 100 ( which is still referred to as one hundred squadron they are referred to by the separate numbers only eg 617 squadron the Dambusters is known as six-one-seven squadron I don't mean to be rude, only helpful Finally they never have the definite article in front of them; it's never the 617 squadron, just 617 squadron
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the comment and pronunciation guidance!
@denerumsby6789
@denerumsby6789 2 месяца назад
@showtime112 thanks for your reply, as I said I wasn't being a smart arse, just trying to help Your videos are really good
@dominiqueroudier9401
@dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад
.6:18 pilot Kay holds something interesting in his hands: italian wine?? I wonder what will happen if all G50 and Bf109E Will stay in the fight. May be différent and RAF must send reinforce. Another question. EdoStuff send my vidéo about aerodrom Zeljava. Do you know and visit it??
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
You think the wine was found in the crash of Italian airplanes shot down? 😁 With the Axis monoplanes, things might have been different but yes, RAF could have sent more airplanes too. As for Željava airbase, I haven't actually been there but I saw a bunch of videos. It's a whole day trip there and back so I never really found the time. But I might still.
@eric-wb7gj
@eric-wb7gj 2 месяца назад
TY 🙏🙏
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching!
@wiktorberski9272
@wiktorberski9272 2 месяца назад
Interesting topic was covered in this movie. This Italian camouflage scheme is really beautiful, but on the other hand really hard to paint on the scale model.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, the paint scheme must be a challenge but an experienced modeller might look forward to it.
@leighrate
@leighrate 2 месяца назад
Well I'd say that anyone who thought the Italians weren't formidable antagonists had just been disabused of that notion.
@barrysnelson4404
@barrysnelson4404 2 месяца назад
A very good and watchable video. Well done. But when you meet someone who believes the Battle of Britain extended into 1941 because the Germans were still bombing Britain you can explain to them that the Germans were still bombing Britain in 1945. The Battle of Britain refers to that action wherein Goering was trying to destroy the RAF prior to an invasion. Bombing was just to draw the RAF into battle to be destroyed. His motive in 1941 was not air superiority but to damage industry, transport etc - a different reason. The Italian actions were not part of the Battle of Britain at all because their motive was not to destroy the RAF. They didn't have a motive, at all, really, apart from Mussolini's ego.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Then why is the captured CR.42 exhibited in the Battle of Britain Museum? 😁😁😁
@barrysnelson4404
@barrysnelson4404 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 So when do you say the Battle of Britain ended, if you don't believe the official date? And should the pilots who fought these Italians be awarded the Battle of Britain clasp? And if so what should be the last date for one the most prestigious battle awards there is?
@barrysnelson4404
@barrysnelson4404 2 месяца назад
@@showtime112 Showtime, I did enjoy your video and I have more time to respond. The reason the Battle of Britain has dates is because the Battle of Britain clasp to the 1939-1945 star was awarded 2,937 times to all aircrew who made an operational flight between 00:01 on 10th July to 23:59 on 31st October. It entitles the holder to claim to be one of "The Few" the single most famous fighting group of World War 2. Only one survives - Pilot Officer Hemmingway. He is 104. And I thought your video was very well made but the Battle of Britain does have defined dates.
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