Italy Before Rome 

thanks for the ecouragement. Any particular topic you think I should highlight?

@@RomabooRamblings not enough Romaboo RU-vidrs do videos about emperors post Commodus and crisis of the third century, idk a series of short vids about emperors might get a subscriber base going

@@RomabooRamblings I think a series or video on Roman culture and its evolution through the years would be nice

Agreed

@@RomabooRamblings make a lot of shorts. Pushes you in the algorithm.

Far too many people nowadays, especially Americans, don't care enough about history. Like... most people over here really only think of D-Day when they hear about Normandy, and not, y'know, the goddamn Normans themselves.

99% seems excessive

@@AudioEsoterixxx common american People can't point to continents in a world map🌍🗺️, so probably the guide was right.

@@unioneitaliana7107 More like the Common person isn't taught ancient history of foreign countries. Ask Europeans where Native american tribes are located on a map would meet the same response. Generally we are taught brief knowledge of American history, trail of tears and native reservations, a little mexican history and wars fought with em, ww1 and ww2 and thats it. Schools should teach more about how to survive in the modern world rather than the history of countries 2000+ miles away.

@@dcethe6943 The final sentence you wrote needs no comment. Education should achieve the exact opposite of what you're saying: you can't live the present if you have no knowledge of the past. US is a failed country, your society is rotten, you don't even have a common culture inside your nation, you just live as members of multiple communities unable to merge into a unifying identity. Luckily us Europeans are moving away from this failed anglo-globalist junk. We're all happy if you stay in you little isolated continent not learning anything about the rest of the world, at least you're of no harm and you'll die out of diabetes and heart attack.

Gaul wuz kangz Dey be teachin romanz how to bathe n shieeeeeet

@Svlla ~Roma Aeterna Victrix~ imperial Roman scum!

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Fair points. Thing is, I didn't mention the ligurian coast and northern adriatic coast at all. Basically, I was thinking "who would be mentioned in the history of Rome" amd Ligurians and Veneti didn't pop into my head.I know it's not an excuse, just wanted to explain why I missed them.

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Good point

What do you mean "fact"? It is not confirmed, just a theory. According to Roman and Greek writers the Apulians were Greeks, descendants of the Arcadians who had become the Oenotrians, who had spit into the Peucetians.

Correction: some apulian tribes migrated from Ancient Illyria. Some of them even mixed with local italic elements

And then us Slavic boys showed up and set up camp. Although I do tan really well like a Mediterranean, so maybe I am part Illyrian...

@@RomabooRamblings I smell albanian propaganda

They do look really happy

The Gauls and Romans came from the same root. The indo European migration to Europe saw the Greeks split off first, then the remaining split in two. The southern group became the italics and gauls. The northern group became the germanics

I am going to copy and paste an interesting theory I have: The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.

Thanks, Seamus, for your comments on the Etruscan language. It is my understanding that what has been translated is mostly mundane stuff. The truism obtains here: "The conqueror writes the history". I understand the Roman emperor, Claudius, had a fascination with the Etruscans and wrote a history of the people, which sadly is lost. This is too often the case. Historical records, primary sources are frequently the victims of conquest. What we know of Rome's regal period is centuries after the fact. What records that did exist were likely lost during the sack of Rome in the early 4th century BC. Too bad. I would love to know whether Kings Numa and Ancus Marcius were flesh and blood.

Thanks for the information. It's fair criticism. I am going to use it to improve the quality of my videos when I resume the narrative on early Roman history.

@@jordanpark1168 the best source that i read about the pre roman italian people is " Italia Omnium Terrarum alumna" but i don't know if there is a translated edition from italian to english, and to be honest is a quite expensive book (70/80 euros more or less). It was quite difficult to find it even in Italy, i had to go to antique dealer as its last edition is from 1988

Samnites never destroyed cumae...they mixed with.....

Taking political power

Yup

@@RomabooRamblings Imperator may have a nice map, but Hegemony III has a better depiction of the political situation 🙂

@@gamesquirrel9822 interesting, i've google images of it but i dont think its realistic. Imperator has the edge in depicting geographical features and the settlements are small and looks proportional.

imperator rome game

He's using Imperator:Rome. I recommend it, best early antiquity game i've ever played.

It's from a game called Imperator: Rome

It’s very likely they’re of old european origin. In fact most of south Europe today (and to varying degrees France) are of old european descent. Could be wrong though. DNA studies is always difficult and confusing.

There's literally a study from last year that confirms that the Etruscans were autochtonous to the Italian peninsula and had "nearly identical dna to their Latin-speaking neighbours".

There were a lot of pre Indo European people around during Roman times. The Rhaetians, the Iberians, the Tartessians and the Aquitanians, who still exist today (now known as Basques).

Yes, it is

@@RomabooRamblings cool, i remembered the map being much more simple, almost dull much more like eu4 than something like CK3 i guess I’ll open the game again now

@@axel0_02 I used a graphics overhaul mod to make it prettier for the video

@@RomabooRamblings yea figured, very cool tho

This is not quite correct, I don't know where you found the similar words in the languages, it could be possible, but at the same time the etruscan language (which contrary to what the video says, we deciphered it, we just don't really know EXACTLY how it was spoken and pronounced) is NOT part of the indo-european language branch of which irish Gaelic is AND most importantly I don't know if you were insinuating a possible common origin between these "middle-eastern" Etruscans and the irish celts, but anyway we now know (thanks to a study that I think was published last year?) that the etruscans had the exact origin as the Latins and other affiliated tribes, and therefore were a totally homogenous italic tribe. Also in Spain there were celtic tribes, just like in Italy, that's why there's quite a bit of influence left, like the region called Galicia, and mostly in the Northern part (also there were Celts in modern day Portugal) and the Irish celts actually originated from the celt-iberic tribes of Spain. The territory you were referring to in modern-day Turkey DOESN'T exist anymore, but it used to exist and it was called Galatia, and it was inhabited by the Galatians (from Greek meaning white, like milk) who were a celtic tribe that migrated there, in central Turkey, after the defeat of Thermopylae in which a few Greek states reunited to push back a Celtic confederation that was raiding and pillaging Illyria and the Greek states, I don't remember exactly who this celtic tribe was but they were named the Galatians by the Greek and they were actually quite important because they worked as mercenaries for both the Romans and the Greeks and were fierce warriors, even being cited in the Ancient Testament. Edited a few words to not exaggerate.

@@Hikaeme-od3zq I don't recall exactly where I read that, it was one of those linguistics blogs where people speculate about ancient history and connections between cultures. I do know that Etruscan is not an Indo-European language, but I don't speak Gaelic, nor am I a trained linguist, so everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt.

@@Hikaeme-od3zq Also, I was referring to the region known as Galatia, I just misremembered the original spelling.

You mean Rome: Total War?

@@RomabooRamblings yeah rome 2 total war has a scenario like this

Thanks. I'll keep note of this for the remake.

I read something about a certain tablet being translated, but I think our overall knowledge of it is rather sparse

we can read and translate to a certain degree but the problem is that we do not have enough texts: the texts that survived are mainly short funerial inscriptions

@@RomabooRamblings I am going to copy and paste a theory I have about the Etruscan language: The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.

The Veneti were Gallic. Gauls or Gallic people were Celtic peoples from mainland Europe.

There are Gallic Veneti, whom Caesar fought, those are certainly Celtic; and there are Adriatic Veneti, they could've been Celtic, Italic or Illyrian, or some mix of those.

@@augustuscaesar8287 wheres your source

@@SmashingCapital they were probably italics: latino-faliscan branch

@@RomabooRamblings Veneti are the same as Eneti ,Illyrian or Slavic tribe that dwellt Balkan, Anatolia(Bythinia) and great part of Europe.

Yes agree, and greeks were from Egypt / Misraim son of Ludim/Lydia and caphtorim/cyprus

@@supermavro6072 Well, that's not exactly accurate but there is a connection with Egypt. Ludim is son of Mitsraym, and they migrated to anatolia and created Lukka/Lycia who were part of the coalition of the sea peoples along with some Greek tribes. But Lydians are LUD son of Shem. Caphtorim are Crete not Cyprus and they were also were part of the sea people, and were ancestors of Sherden of Sardinia who originated from Crete along with Phillistines descendants of Caslukhim. The 4 races of Greeks came from Yavan son of Yaphet

They'll make up any ridiculous lie to try to discredit scripture. We'll see how that works out for them.

@@JohnDoe-qz5pj Yes, they are so pathetic. Every theory they invent turns out to be false

@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy The Romans were originating from the Ancient Greeks of Peleponessos Lacedaemonia Arcadia and Argos.

no they werent

Indo European is a language not a people

@@IrishCinnsealach it was also a migration from central Asia that swept away all of Europe other than the Basque and Finn-Ugaric people.