@@gigi9467 yes- nay father in law has one- I drive it is a fucking dog- my sti has all the torque in the world compared to the S2000 - it is also 15 years newer. The new Miata beats the s2000 big time- there is just such lag with the s2000 - it takes forever to hit 60
@@misterpsych3804 the s2k was a great car but a one trick pony, grrat at the track but that was it! Also u better mame sure u know how to deal with the unepexcted oversteerr but still, now if u want to use it for anything else that motor is a dog, sounds great but hard pass on the streets, i have an ND with a some shock’s and springs nothing crazy but works great as a daily because they’re torque in that engine and revs high enough there is a reason why they keep making them right
@@gigi9467 thats not why it got descontinued, it was the financial crisis! the engine was the main selling point of the car and won multiple international awards like engine of the year for many years. It was also the highest HP per liter production engine ever made for 10 years and it took a Ferrari to beat it. Honda doesn't car about your daily driving and traffic light pulls ... the car was made for the canyons and the track and for that only (why else would someone buy a roadstar anyway) and for that it was perfect in the hands of a capable driver. When i hear people say stuff like "you have to rev it out" and "you HAVE to downshift" i feel like i'm in the wrong movie because reving it out and downshifting is the whole point of the car and the whole point of an engageing driving experience. If you don't like the characteristics of a car then it's just the wrong car for you, maybe a big V8 Mustang suits better to your requirements. Also no one wanted the 2.2l F22c engine except the US, thus it only came to the US. They had to release it in Japan too later to bring the Type S, rest of the world was very happy with the AP1 engine because rest of the world knew a few things about driving and shifting a high reving engine.
@@binskee677 damn lots of excuses lol yea the engine was great! But only at the track hence why they went from a 2.0 to a 2.2 Americans like torque buddy, sure the financial crisis didnt help but a miata which sold In similar Numbers didnt ger discontinued, what discontinued the car was the track oriented engine overpriced and wrx and evo u could buy for the same money and be more practical, all this totals to me as a failure of a car like all cars that are discontinued.
The SK2 was iconic for two reasons...it was a small, lightweight drop top with an engine that loved to rev. This thing may be a small drop top but it won't be exactly lightweight and will be missing the most important feature. Why bother? My point is this: didnt Tesla already make this a decade ago?
I had the 2nd revision of the Honda S2000 in 2001 when they changed the rear window from plastic to glass and altered the toe in of the wheels a little to stop owners flying off the road so often 🙂. Later models got a slightly less aggressive throttle response and a smoother gearbox as it became a little more refined. Superb car. Power through revs with its VTEC engine. It took a Honda CBR 1000RR Fireblade to get me out of it! I took delivery of a new Honda Jazz Hybrid yesterday, but I still have the Fireblade for the fast stuff. \o/ I'll be interested to see what Honda come up with.
Are you in the USA? USDM didn't get OEM glass rear windows until 2002/2003. If you weren't the original owner of the 2001 someone possibly replaced the top and at that point they all basically become glass rear window
@@dystoypianplaygrounds No I'm in the UK. You're right about the years though. I always remember it as 2001 because I ordered it that year (It was imported as a right hand drive UK spec car via Virgin Cars using a Honda dealer in the Netherlands! saving me £3,000 at the time). I was a bit annoyed at the Sales people at the nearest two Honda dealers as one had flatly denied any knowledge about a glass rear window being on the the next year's model because he just wanted to sell a 99 year model that he had on the forecourt which didn't appeal because it had so many chips on the bonnet (hood) that it looked like someone had fired a BB gun at it, and it had the plastic rear window. The other Honda dealer I visited didn't have a demonstrator and just insisted that I should place an order without having even sat in one, let alone test driven one, and that the car was so special that people just placed an order and waited, and if I didn't like that then that was just too bad. Well, I did place an order in the end, but not with either of those two dealers, and I got the car in 2002 about 9 months later. I visited the nearest Honda dealer again, and the service department was delighted to add it to the Honda UK database so they could service it etc. and perform any recalls (of which there was one IIRC due to oil bolts being replaced to improve oil flow as a few US cars car blown their engines due to oil starvation on cylinder #1 or #4.) The speculation on the UK S2000 forums at the time was that there was either a track with a very high speed long sweeping corner somewhere causing oil to be dragged to the outer side of the engine starving the inner cylinder or maybe some S2000's had been on some of those oval tracks! In any case, Honda preempted the problem in the UK with a recall. I think the US S200 owners were probably more inclined to mod the cars and drive them hard as they had a 3 year / 60,000 miles IIRC warranty (which I sort of respected/admired them for), whereas the UK got a 90,000 miles / 3 year warranty, meaning that owners kept them very much stock so as not to void the warranty. 🙂
@@Abercrombemonkey Torque doesn't change how quick a car is 0-60 if the horsepower stays the same at the end lol or people just don't know how to drive them correctly
Given the unresolved issues relating to EV and the electricity required for their use, I hope Honda avoid gaslighting and focus solely on sights and sounds of ICE (Internal Combustion Engines).
I mean they brought back the GTR Turbo'd and the 400z Turbo'd. I think the disappointment of the US from Japan in the 90s perspective is finally over 🤞 . But I truly get it.. The KA engine is good, but the SR20T was were it was at!
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Yeah why not. Mind you an upcoming S2000 will not be the first as the newer Civic Type R already have the turbocharged engine. Today's turbocharged cars are welcomed back due to strong low rpm pull meaning you can have power sooner. Civic Type R already have engine character change and so too will the S2000.
“We promise not to waste your time” Proceeds to waste our time explaining the history of the S2k. We already know it !!! We didn’t click on this for a history lesson
I have been hearing about a BABY NSX for the last few years... This would be total 🔥🔥🔥. They brought the integra back. So let's see if Honda is really serious.
I just want to see the revival of the S2000 and Prelude with an ICE power plant over an EV. Make them both RWD with the S getting the iconic front-mid engine layout and the Prelude layout living up to the name it got from its 3rd generation, baby NSX!
Seems I have heard this many times before. Also, do current S2K owners really need more power, edgier styling and more "creature comforts"? Personally, I'll hang on to my AP1 and smile.
I bought one new in 2002, put 77,000 miles on mine. Sold it in 2015 for a Porsche. Never looked back. Porsche motor with factory sport exhaust, chef’s kiss. We also own a 2022 MIata. Much better car than S2000. Light weight, awesome gearbox.
I would love to see s2000 return but not as an electric car. The whole point of a sports car, in my opinion, is to feel connected with the car. That’s why the manual transmission was pushed for the new Z, GR Corolla, Supra ect. That being said unless they’ve already begone production planning the earliest we’re likely to see it is 2028. 5 years seems to be the time line most manufacturers give when releasing teasers to giving us a production version. Now if we could get the GR Yaris states side and the 510 concept Nissan released years ago; then we’d have an abundance of choices for smaller 2 door sports cars.
At this point if auto manufacturers don’t know that we don’t want EV’s they must have the same marketing agency as Bud Light. Know your clients and stop pushing crap we don’t want.
12yr ap1 owner here....i dont think they should remake the car it will never be the same and wont ever live up to the name..it should be a 1 and done car imo...main reason is cause i want the price of mine to keep going up so i can sell it for more LOL only reason really..
So.... basically a clickbait title and no official news. Absolutely nothing except speculation, old quotes, and recycled renders. Great way to rack up views I guess.
I estimate that the possible new S2000 will have an MSRP of about $15,000 more than the Miata - so they would not be competitors. The possible new S2000 would compete with the likes of the Toyota Supra, and the Nissan Z. I already owned two Miatas and it’s a blast to drive at a reasonable price. There’s a reason why other roadsters failed in trying to mimic the Miata. The likes of the original S2000, the Honda del Sol, the Toyota MR2, the 2016 to 2029 FIAT 124 are all in the graveyard of history.
@@Abercrombemonkey I had a bmw before my type R. Not impressed with BMW. My fiancé owns an Audi S4 and that ones pretty fun to drive. The car I’m actually looking to buy next year is the 2024 GR Supra . As a Honda fan I was hoping they would make the new s2000 a 3.0 to compete with Toyota
@fk8chick893 I went from a 2nd stage si and was looking to get something else so I test drove a type r - super underwhelming. I ended up getting a 3.0 prem supra. While the MK5 had the B58 repurposed by Toyota it's still a BMW through and through
The Honda S2000 looks 10 times better than the 4door type R civic. Let's be real.. I have a poster in my garage of an S2K, never put a civic poster up..
Would rather the S2000 remain in what it is, a legend. Honda wouldn’t be able to reproduce something today that could replicate what the S2000 is to many.
Jeremy Clarkson already mentioned it that the original S2000 was a marvel. And if they combine the retro design and a futuristic motor it would go to shit. Sorry but only idiots will buy an S2000 with this garbage engine. They should maintain the legacy of the original S2000 otherwise they re just gonna ruin it like they did with the civic and even the NSX.
Lets be honest - if it wasnt for the uproar created by the supra, and then underscored by screams for a manual - we might not have seen this happen. We need to keep this fanfare up so we get more performance oriented cars and features!
Not possible to make it again. It will have to have an engine that meets current café standards. Which means either a tiny turbo, charged a motor or a hybrid. Either of which would completely change the character of the car.
We need the return of the S2000, but give us a 6 cylinder model as well . Bring it back but do it right this time. Please don't drop the ball like you did for the so called return of the CRX .
Hell yea , high revving inline 6 with 375hp naturally aspirated. There was so much room under that long ass hood. Or they could just turbo the 6 cylinder and give fans what they really want
If it's coming back don't F it up with ev trims or partnerships that would go against the S2000's legacy as a lightweight, compact, and driver focused sports car. If it can't be as such, then leave the S2000 as a glorious memory as one of the greatest sports cars ever made.
This is the perfect lil car!!! I had a 1980 Fiat 2000 Spyder.. beautiful car, however everything broke 😂😂😂 wanted to put a honda engine and 5 sp stick in it.. but it would cost more than it’s worth… Italian design and Honda built…. The NSX is a Ferrari that actually runs without constant maintenance too..
I love the S2000. Never own one. I did own a 93 Integra GSR for 2 plus years. I drove my ex's 1st generation and didn't have enough skill to control the car on track. It's a bit twitchy for me, kinda reminded me of MR2 turbo from the early 90's.
MR2 Turbo, especially the Rev 3 onwards is an awesome sports car. I'm sure you had fun in yours...I own a 94 JDM Rev 3 Turbo (black). I'll never sell it despite the big dollars I'm getting offered for it these days.
@@GM-fh5jp The 90's NSX went down in price for literally 6 months. This was back in 2008 right before the Recession, I saw one I was thinking about getting for a 1992 NSX stick shift $21k with 48K miles. I will Never see that again, to this day it Hurts my Soul Greatly! I recently met a guy at the gas station with a USDM MR2 Rev 3 Turbo with a Honda K Swap Turbo. Those cars are insanely fast with the K swap
@@raimondnu3 They are also awesome with the supercharged 2GR 3.5ltr Toyota V6 in them which fits pretty well.However like with a K-swap you end up with a "hotrod" not a real one so there's that to consider. Mine is very "factory" almost like a brand new 94 model, matching numbers everything and no nasty mods. That's why everyone wants to buy it ;)
I like the linear power delivery of a naturally aspirated engine. That said, my pick up truck is a twin turbo V6 and my Miata is a Greddy turbocharged 1.6…. My only NA car is my 74 Falcon, but even that will eventually have a fake blower on it. :)
I'm scared to death. As an S2000 owner for the last 12 years & never going to sell my car, I'm scared the name is going to be ruined. 1. Please don't make it electric. 2. The k20c1 may be fine in the new s2000 but don't overprice such a car either. I'm already extremely dissatisfied at the UK price of a FL5. July 2021 & I was looking at an Fk8 brand new for 31k. 2023 & a few minor changes for the FL5 & the price is 50k (I know Honda factory shut in Swindon but this is unacceptable). 3. Learn something about what went wrong with the 'new' NSX. Amazing car by all standards but the heart & soul from the original seemed to be missing. 4. Take what's great about a car like the mk5 supra & again, like with the NSX, learn from the bad points. Everyone slated the BMW everything & Toyota nothing on the Supra. Lets make this car a Honda worthy of a red badge if necessary! 5. A team of people with a history of car design need to be employed to design this car. Fine to have many young eager fresh out of uni grads involved but please look in the past at successful cars rather than trying to eagerly innovate new 5 minute wonder stuff. 6. This list is starting to be an endless half assed rant that makes no sense so I'll stop it now before I'm here in an hour, but last thing, please Honda give us that DC2/5, FD2, Ek9/most of the CTR's, s2k, NSX, S600/660, beat, del sol kind of car its supposed to be. Live up to the brand please!
If the car doesn't exist, and no one has said it does, especially Honda, then its just all smoke and mirrors. The Fan boy's are all lit up about it though. I will wait and see. If they still do not put out a R-Line for this one this time.....I ain't buyin it.
This car would be Hondas only hope at becoming relevant again. Let's face it the type r's aren't cutting it whatsoever and gave been a huge ket down. Hopefully they won't screw this one up too. If they actually did the new s2000 right I would be first in line to buy it.
This better have 500 HP or it ain't worth it. Imagine getting harassed by Ford Bronco Raptor or yet the King Jeep 392 and these are not even "Sports car". Make it in the 500 HP range.
If only they didn't kill the NSX production (I never hated the NSX, it's just way too expensive) NSX, Civic Type R and S2K would be a really lovely sight to see together.
Hopefully they don’t make it look like one of their new generic Acura’s. The formula is simple as it’s always been, (sports car) driver centered, light weight, just enough power, RWD, LSD, 5 speed.
Interesting video, and I HOPE it's correct. But, I always take these types of videos with a huge block of salt until I actually SEE the vehicle sitting on the dealership floors with a price / sales sticker on the window.
My thoughts on a new Honda 3 cylinder turbo engine . Toyota with its g16e-gts engines showing the way towards the future and why not ? Honda have 3 cylinder engines and is very able to upsize and upgrade itself . I believe this is the way to the next s2000. Because weight is the issue and my gr4 engine is like close to half the weight of 4 cylinder engines of the same power.
It’s funny how everyone starting liking the s2000 over the years. When they first came out nobody gave a crap about them, even being big in the Honda scene the last Honda we cared about was a s2000. EG, EM1, EK, CRX but not s2000
You only need to ask 1 QUESTION!!! Why at that time was the GTR forbidden to come to the USA to compete against everyone!!! Not fair but if S2k returns it will not be alone this time unless USA BLOCKS foreign competitors AGAIN!!!! Let’s go Nissan and Toyota/Lexus!!!!
That clickbait image of what SHOULD have been a 3rd gen S2k is disappointing. If we ever get a new 'S2000' it will be some natured hybrid with an e-cvt.
What they have to preserve about it is it does some sort of Honda pointy effort look in a way that makss it like there are so much more styles of cars in the world. I think they should anchor in by doing their Job at that and being the pointiest.
