Jack Nicklaus LASHES OUT At LIV Golf.. Here’s Why 

unlucky

Exactly, do as I say not as I do. Personally I don't care about any of it but the PGA Tour pretty much crapped on all the PGA members when they broke away and why did they do it. Money for the few.

Professional sports is just about money, not about you, me or the game. In the end it does not matter which logo is on the ticket or screen, right? It's just that the soon to be ousted rulers don't feel like sharing anything.

My main issue with LIV is the source of the money. I’ve heard that LIV has 700 billion dollars at its disposal. And Saudi Arabia supports and harbors terrorists, whether they admit it or not. All twenty of the 911 highjackers were Saudi nationals. The whole thing smells like a dead fish.

Now the wheel has turned and these Mafia of golf types dont like whats happened to their private PGA club,,,

"Jack(Nicklaus) was one of the founders of the 'breakaway PGA Tour'(?)..." What does this mean exactly? I'm sorry, but I don't even know what you are trying to say here. Please explain...

Dirty money

Dirty money.

The whole FedEx playoffs are sponsored by blood money

You should move to Saudi Arabia. Treat women like queens.@@andysylvester2566

Hundreds of American company’s do business in and with Saudi Arabia.

.... it's a shame but that is what all pro sports have come to. It's also a shame that the big $$$$ is influencing the outcome of games as well. Greed has always been more important than any game.

The PGA doesn't like that they are no longer the only game in town. They known they had better reach way back into the dusty part of the money drawer if they are going to stay relevant.

LMFAO, since the players own the PGA, then how come the PGA is making them make a choice? Plus the PGA claims it's Non-profit. Right. Like you said the players started it, yet they're controlled by the Commissioner of the PGA or else. It's all Political BULLSHIT now.

@@demsareunamerican6800 Ever been on a condo board? It’s like that. The board is made up of owners but that doesn’t mean that everyone is happy about every decision. There is constant bitching. The PGA tour was set up as a non profit BY THE PLAYERS. There is no corporate ownership. Corporations sponsor events and the Tour runs those events. Everyone who works for the tour is on salary including the commissioner and these people DO NOT OWN THE TOUR. This basic lack of understanding is why so many fools come on here talking crap about things they know nothing about. The Tour has never ever screwed the players over. After expenses and charity the Players get all the revenue. There are no owners taking any profit whatsoever. If you think there are then name these owners. You can’t because they don’t exist. And LIV is a government entity that is making these ridiculous payments from oil revenue. If they were an actual competitor that had to pay players from golf revenue they would have gone bankrupt immediately. They will probably be paying off employees of the Tour like Monahan and board members to get what they want, but those deals have not been disclosed yet as far as I know.

I absolutely understand "how things work" - just like our government is run by the people right? "People have started many great things and the corrupt, power hungry, greedy elements of the population always end up building a castle for themselves and screw everyone else. Their called "commissioners" among other nefarious titles like: politicians, presidents, leaders, spokesman.... etc

Wrong, if you knew what was going on in 1968 you would understand they have nothing in common

@@stevendufrane2699 this is the same exact thing the PGA is now going through with LIV. so you are wrong

Ummm, Jack and Arnie didn't start the PGA. The PGA started in 1916. Yet pro golf was long before 1916 in the United States.

@@demsareunamerican6800 pga of america is what started in 1916. they branch off of it to start the pga tour

@bigboots6114 yeah, I see what you're saying. In 1968. Yet now the PGA is crying over the LIV tour. Arnie also got more prize money for tournaments. Then, when Tiger came along, prize money skyrocketed. But know they're mad at LIV for the same thing.

The PGA tour was founded by the players and is controlled by the players. It’s not a separate company that calls the shots and has NO owners. Try learning how things work before complaining about it.

@polarbear4612 I am not complaining the players are. The fans and especially commentators are. I couldn't care less about these overpayed people who provide zero good to society. I hope it falls apart to be honest. Golfers are billionaires now? Give me a break

@@polarbear4612 It absolutely is NOT controlled by the players. Get your facts straight. It is run by a Board of Directors NOT the players

@@Sambone702Yes it is and the board are not owners. The PGA tour was formed by and for the players. Name one Owner of the PGA tour. Hint: there isn’t one.

@@Sambone702 The PGA tour raised more money for charity than the NHL, NFL And MLB combined. They did that because that’s what the players who founded the PGA tour wanted. LIV has changed that because they are a government entity with bottomless pockets. They don’t make any money from golf, it’s ALL oil revenue.

Rory hasn't left the European Tour. He's a member of both tours. That goes for Colin Montgomerie as well as others (Nick Faldo, Seve Ballesteros just to name a couple more) who were members of both tours at the same time, like Rory.

@@captaincarl8230Which tour is Rory's priority and where does he play the most??? Jon Rahm and others would like to be members of both tours but the PGA says nooooooo. So how can it be the player's fault?

@@steveking8548 He played in 10 events during 2022 on the European Tour and 16 during the 2021-22 wrap around PGA Tour schedule. I guess that it would depend on the week-to-week schedule. Also, the four majors are official events on both tours. All I stated in the previous post was that Rory, as well as other past and present, play on both European Tour & PGA Tours. I did not, however, say anything about anything else.

LIV is hardly a Tour. Not even the same games. No cut, play hungover in your shorts like all of us duffers on a Saturday afternoon in a Texas scramble. The format is complete garbage and minor league. You do you but for me all those guys on, or going to LIV, are completely irrelevant to me now. The PGA Tour is ruined now regardless who caused it and the alternative now is watching 2nd stringers on Tour or guys not playing for anything meaningful other than their own bragging rights, or some fake trophy, they already got the prize money. It’s just my opinion tho, all you LIV Lovers you do you

@@captaincarl8230Roy and others may still be members of DP but many headed to America for the bigger money and no one bashed them for it

Top Golf? Seriously? That is NOT golf, at least not in the traditional sense. It's Friday night bowling 🎳 with disco lights and a club and a smaller ball. I'll NEVER watch a LIV event because it looks quite g@y to me with all of this team crap. LIV is NOT representative of traditional golf. The 70s and 80s were real golf ⛳️ where making a cut mattered, and money had to be made the old fashioned way. You truly earned it. Thanks

It's golf. Even though I play a nine hole every weekend, I play simulation golf on Phigolf every day.​@@quantumpotential7639

Your opinion I disagree l love watching LIV and seeing the great shots made on beautiful courses

no they can play where they please

"Buying the game??????" The PGA is pissed because they no longer own it.

Because this is golf. Golf is a small niche sport with a small fan base, which isn’t large enough to support 2 organizations here in the US. Look at how popular the NFL is, but football has always struggled to maintain a second league ie the USFL! Just look at the current viewership numbers. The PGA take the 2 tour championships. LIV averaged 300,000 viewers where PGA Tour championship average close to 5 million. The PIF isn’t going to keep LIV going forever with that kind of loss. Plus traditional golf fans, those 5 million, HATE the golfers that have left and have turned their backs on them hence the poor ratings! I’ll be honest with you it’s hard to find and the broadcast is pretty poor. They haven’t invest in their broadcast enough and marketed enough to lure any of those 5 million fans. Those people are too loyal, most being local PGA members, to switch!

Has the saudi connection been solved? I mean are liv saudis same who paid for 9/11 , or are they being unfairly lumped into the terrorist funding saudis ? Ive not heard a definitive confirmation one way or another .just hear it saudis sportswashing aways the blood on their hands in the beginning.but at this point i still dont see if this is 100% confirmed as an idiot consumer of golf myself… like are all saudis no matter what part of terror funding and this is known fact i just am not aware of ? Im honestly asking ….or is it just a very suspicious assumption because of all the money , like its gotta be all connected but we dont know it for sure like scientifically (for lack of better wording) so its a suspicion that looks likely but still not proved out …? Cause for me , i have mo problem with another golf league to watch especially if its a completely seperate entitywithno crossover accept for like opens which i believe have always been open to those who pass qualifiers …..but also i will not give my time watching or supporting in anyway if its linked to terror agency in anyway directly … this is the sticking point t for me and probably lots of people …as u can tell im not following it closely lol

​@@vicpnut1i would do some research on the insurance claim taken out be4 the twin towers fell.....cua u missing some big facts

That's it's him. He's the teflon don of golf.

​@@DMKFACTOR Really? Golf is a small sport that's global. Funny how many countries have the NFL? You don't know what you're talking about.

You are spot on: The PGA is an elite group of boring, OLD TIME GOLF turds who refused to improve the game for the 2/3's of the tour card, non-big name - sponsor attracting ($$$$). they took way too long to make badly needed rules changes and made pay-out changes only because of the LIV tour. There are still some ridiculous rules that need to go and others better enforced. The PGA also kept the game in the "don't do anything out of the ordinary" mentality. Every once in while an interesting, out of the box (you can't play like that) player would turn up and they were forced to give in to their greed and let them play because they were such popular, money making machines. I could go on but I think most golfers get the point.

How did you not comment? You just did. Wow.

Making a comment about not making a comment IS a comment.

Yep, it's about the money, not the game they're good at. If it was about the integrity of the game, the players would be like Bobby Jones. No payday. Just winning a tournament..

Times and the world has changed. Big time. If you could “earn” money that guarantees your future, your children and families future, and your grandchildren and great grandchildren, wouldn’t you? Those who “worked” their way within the game, to get to income which the “stars “ make, or even just a better fraction of what the stars make, it is unreasonable and irrational the comments Tiger, Rory and others have made.

Who determines what “satisfactory “ income is for anyone? Nicklaus made $100s and hundreds of millions off the activities outside of the actual playing of golf.

@@demsareunamerican6800 Bobby Jones’s father was extremely rich and Bobby inherited his family’s wealth. How do you think he built Augusta National

Just another example of the fantasy world the PGA official live in.

America wants to be in charge of everything and it's all gradually falling apart, put Trump back in the White House and it will get back to normal American Chaos 😢😢😂😅😅🎉🎉🎉

You mentioned restrictions. One of the major issues at LIV is restrictions only a field of 48, no more. If new players would like to join LIV, they need to wait until some of the 48 are fired.

Wrong. The PGA tour was set up as a non profit BY THE PLAYERS. The “PGA” does not own the tour, they merely do all the organizing for the players. The players control the PGA tour.

Wrong the PGA Tour is run by a board of Directors

@@neilpountney9414Yes NOW, but it wasn’t originally!

@@DMKFACTOR and means what in todays world exactly?

You are lying to yourself.

Saudi Arabia loves players who don’t care about getting blood money from Saudi Arabia

Dave who watches Liv they can't get a TV deal cause no one would watch 3rds and no cut r we even trying

Excellent and congratulations on pointing out the obvious Jays the problem LIV is the fix

I love watching LIV 76 and love that it’s two tournaments going on at once with Rahm move LIV now has most top tour players and has become a world tour not just an American one

@@lonblair1139 not to a monopoly

Wrong. The PGA is a non profit established by the players. It’s not a corporation.

Yeah. Right.@@polarbear4612

@@polarbear4612with Jay running it it’s a hammer trying to smash any competitor

Are you serious? Dechambeau, DJ, Cam Smith, Rahm, Koepka, Gooch, Garcia, Lahiri, Niemann are all top players. I'm not sure there are many PGA players that could compete against these guys.

LIV golfers won the last five DP tournaments

I totally agree. The PGA Tour should have simply said, go play, we will see you next week. None of this would have happened. And that is what they need to do now. Focus on YOUR tour and YOUR events. Reinstate anyone who wants to be reinstated that qualifies. Make YOUR product as good as you can make it. We are also seeing how quickly those that were the most self-righteous are walking it back. Before Rahm left, Rory was totally against any of them ever being allowed near a Ryder Cup, but now he doesn't see any reason why Rahm cannot still be on HIS Ryder Cup team. Morals only matter if it is the other guy. Pretty two-faced, if you ask me.