Jaguar EV DESTROYS garage while charging in Colorado | MGUY Australia 

Strange when Samsung battery had a spontaneous combustion problem everyone was jumping on it. But when EVs catching fire the press are really low key about it despite they burn a lot more than just a hole in your trousers 🤔

My son in law is a fireman, he told me they have been called several times to a local car manafacturing plant because of fires with batteries and asked to keep it quiet, and as well as that they do not have any specific process to deal with EV fires, in his own words, "they are a nightmare"

The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance. It's obvious we are in for inflation,it is always the poor who take the hit.

My wife and I refused to buy a condo in Washington state this last year. I am a retired firefighter and asked about EV parking and charging isolation. I saw a few at the building we looked at. The realtor looked like a confused dog. Asked me why is an EV an issue? Aren't they safer because there is no gasoline? Uninformed. These multi housing units have not caught up with what's going on. We bought a stand alone home because no one seemed responsible or concerned about any of it in these condo associations. Ignorance can and will hurt you. Btw-the fire service and search and rescue can and will charge people for extraordinary events. A wildland rescue can cost $10s of thousands of US dollars. Go ahead and do something stupid, you get the bill for it. I recall billing a fire for a haz-mat response to a meth lab. Yes, they can and should bill the owner for the EV. They are responsible for owning it. The fire department can become responsible for the contaminated water run off from the fire when allowing run off. We contained the water from these events and covered street drains. If it's raining heavily, then it's not a reasonable expectation. The run off is toxic. I have been on Li-ion battery fires. The bunker gear is contaminated and must be gross decontaminated, removed before entering even a fire vehicle. Then properly cleaned. We had 2 sets of gear for readiness.

No, the EV owners won't pay for the additional equipment the firefighters use, but homeowners/ taxpayers will through elevated property taxes. So, even though I drive an ICE car, I'm going to have to pay for someone else to drive one of those death traps. Infuriating!

Another problem is, if your neighbour has an EV that catches fire, your house is at risk as well!

Love how fireman states it's still smoking going down the street on the flatbed. So all of us get to enjoy the toxic fumes.

Finally an argument about the use of water on Lithium ion fire. It's indeed contaminated and need to be handled as toxic waste...

As an ICAO HAZMAT specialist I can tell you that, almost exclusively, the people that taught me over the years started freezing-up with anxiety when Li-Ion batteries came on the scene. Their reservations were not about the normal operation of the batteries, it was the charging process that was the problem. These charging processes generate heat, a lot of it. Plug in your laptop, put your hand on the back and it'll burn you. Plug in your phone, same thing. What do you feel? Heat, right? So, we keep upping the ante to make bigger Li-Ion batteries and we're apparently shocked that more and more heat is produced during the charging process. It's surely just a matter time till people's houses do catch fire due to an EV-charging fire and the outcome is not as positive as this one. As the poster stated, what happens when there's an apartment block with EVs in the basement all happily charging-away as the residents sleep? What also happens in the City when everyone's working in their multi-story offices with the staff's EVs all charging-away in the basement carpark? It's not a positive look-forward, is it? There's an awful lot of variables at work here, isn't there? Who has good quality batteries? Who has the cheap ones? Who has good quality charging-cables? Who has the cheap ones? Who has access/availability to a fire-suppression blanket should the worst happen? Not a good prognosis going forward, is it?

My fear is that governments will mandate that insurance companies have to spread this risk across all vehicle owners so not to ‘discriminate’ against EV owners.

I am hearing that some insurance companies here in the U.K. are refusing to insure EVs now. Good!

Do any of these EV drivers understand how toxic these vehicles are to humans and the environment?

I worked as a diesel mechanic on underground mobile machinery in gold and coal mines. I have been watching advertising for the same type of machinery that uses batteries. The same tripe about emissions and how much cleaner they are. The source of electricity is coal fired power stations. The machinery IS DIGGING COAL..!!! This world has turned into a Monty python skit 😂

And that's 3-5 thousand dollars of taxpayers money to buy those blankets. So, whether you want an EV or not, you are still part owners in those two that were covered by those expensive blankets.

The whole concept of EVs with Lithium Ion cells is insane. There isn't a single part of the production/ownership cycle that makes any sense. I seriously doubt there is any environmental 'saving' from these overweight monstrosities.

What is pathetic is the owners of the two EV cars will probably be stupid enough to replace them with two more EV cars.

How could you sleep properly with an EV in the garage - you're worry about negative equity AND your house could burn down and your insurance is going up and you have a 500 mile journey to plan the next day. Laughable if it wasn't so serious.

The problem is not ev’s. The problem is that we cannot easily remove idealogically driven governments who promote this madness, or at least bring them to heel.

Governments had better wake the hell up these things are not safe

You hit the nail on the head regarding apartment blocks with basement car parking. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing these things are parked beneath me.

I just watched that video, and the cost and additional workload was amazing. IMHO the additional cost should be sent to the car manufacturers, but you know it will be just the insurance company, and thus shared with everyone, not just the EV owners. Oh and if I lived in, or owned an apartment block, or even a rental house there would be one rule - NO EV charging allowed at all. If it was a larger house then maybe in a driveway at least 10 meters from any structure, but in the garage, next to the house or car park below the building - hell no!

An ev burned in a garage in my neighborhood. The house was a complete loss along with the 2 cars in the driveway. The ev was completely un recognizable after the incident. The fire spread so quickly the cars in the driveway could not be moved.

It wasn't just the ev, the car it was parked next to was a hybrid. So that also needed a blanket and towing away in case it's battery went up because of the ev fire.

I have been around cars for all of my working life. I'm 59 and have never known an ICE car to catch fire whilst unused. I don't even know anyone who has experienced this even if it's possible technically I suppose. I did meet a guy last summer whose beautiful '60's Maserati had been internally fire gutted when a phone storage device combusted out of nowhere on the passenger seat. He was at the pub drowning his sorrows! A lithium battery the size of an iPhone did that!

Funny that no one appears to be measuring the pollution from these burning vehicles. In the short manufacturing life of EVs two ships have burnt out and there are countless videos of burning vehicles. The mainstream press hardly touches on these incidents.

Thanks for shining a light into the otherwise ignored pitfalls of electric vehicles. These ‘milk floats’ are not ready for release and are simply unsafe apart from being environmentally detrimental. Great content as usual.

Retired US firefighter here. The amount of fire fighting equipment is not unusual. Whenever there is a vehicle fire in the garage of a home it is considered a structure fire thus requiring more equipment. This is due to the fact the fire can and often does spread from the car to the structure. In my 38 years of experience I never had to escort the car hauler to the salvage yard after a vehicle fire. We put the fire out, the tow company arrived and we went back to the station. And as was stated when these electric vehicles start catching fire in parking garages it is going to be a major incident. In my humble opinion electric cars are dangerous from a fire standpoint.

insurance to Jack up their premiums for EV owners ?…. It’s likely that they will Jack up their prices for *everyone* in order to subsidise the EV owners, otherwise EVs will be uninsurable.

I remember the backlash when Samsung phones were catching fire. Now when much, much, much bigger batteries do, it's being downplayed.

This whole EV thing replacing our beloved ICEs had me worried. But I've learned so much over the last few months about how idiotic and unviable EV's are that i'm not anymore. I'm just sitting here laughing and the slow train wreck with my popcorn in hand. Keep up the great work. 👍😆

The whole notion of EVs was the cradle to grave cost was less than petrol vehicles.

This happened at a place where I lived. Someone had an EV charging in their garage that caught fire during a lightning storm. The fire was so intense it nearly destroyed the entire townhome complex.

Most underground or even above ground parking spaces have a height restriction normal fire fighting/removal trucks cannot get in to these spaces. A big problem.

It's funny and serious all at the same time. The scale of resources involved here is incredible. If you multiply the cases should everyone drive an E V the effects are catastrophic to society.

Maybe each new EV should come with it's own $3k - $5k fire blanket, provided by the manufacturer by law.

The added benefit of that blanket is that it obscures what's smoking underneath it. A precious EV.

Plans for a new hospital in the UK involve the building of a multi storey carpark for the hospital, right next to the main building. Can anybody see a possible future problem with this?!!!

Wonder what these EVs toxic footprints are? There's supposed to be a scientific burn study done this year in Illinois measuring the hazardous gases and runoff from these things. Let's see if corporate media covers it.

About 5 years ago I looked into a stand alone off grid power supply for my home, the installation HIGHLY RECOMMEND the battery was installed 10mtrs away from any structures in a FIREPROOF ENCLOSURE 😮 Now charging the same batteries in your house is madness.

What they need to do is interview the owners of these vehicles and see if they actually knew the potential for fire to occur in such cars . If they were unaware, then it proves the public is still not getting the message . On the other hand if they were cognisant of such issues , that also says much for what negatives people are prepared to accept .

We had a goon from the motor industry on tv recently who gushed about how electric cars were selling like hot cakes and everything was going to plan in the UK.....how someone can spout lies and smile at the same time means he must have a psychotic nature...but then again don't all salesmen have this trait?

Homeowners insurance should go way up too. Car burns up and also house burns up if its in the garage. Utterly ridiculous

So do fire departments now need to keep $4K to $5K fire-blankets on hand to be used in every EV fire? Disposable fire-blankets. Then a pumper and crew is needed as is a police escort for the tow-truck taking the thing to the scrapper. The cost of each EV fire is going to be astronomical.

My homeowners policy requires me to disclose if I, or any of my immediate neighbors own EV’s. One neighbor did but he had to get rid of it because the extension cord he used had to cross the sidewalk. This was considered a sidewalk obstruction which requires a permit.

They are spraying thousands of gallons of water on those fires but they have no way to collect it and treat it as a hazmat!

I would like to know the logic of those blankets, you could do a video on it? Just from a cursory glance...Lithium-Ion battery fires are self oxidizing, able to burn in the absence of atmospheric oxygen. So logic dictates the person speaking must have misspoke and that blanket is merely fire resistant to try to help protect the firefighters if it re-ignites. Not to prevent the re-ignition or put it out. EDIT: Should have read the caption at 4:32

You are right about resources: Just this morning in London a double decker EV bus caught on fire. Huge amount of disruption, emergency crews and toxic smoke.

REAL GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON UTUBE, IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS PERHAPS IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

In Australia, property owners pay an annual fire services levy via their council land rates, but fire services will charge for certain services such as false calls out, hazmat services that last longer than an hour, fire safety inspections etc. Property owners will usually have these extra charges covered under their private insurance (property or motor vehicle) so in the end we all end up paying for the extra costs required for fire services through both higher levies and higher insurance premiums. For reference, a recent fire of an excavator at a metal recycling plant took about 20 units around 24 hours to extinguish and the final bill to the insurers is estimated so far at over $800K - this includes not just all the fire services but also their support teams (ambulances on hand, traffic management, even food vans for the fire services) but also the EPA-regulated clean-up afterwards. The fire services block all the storm water drains before they start pumping water, then require the property owner to remove the contaminated foam/water for proper disposal - this exercise takes a few days of round-the-clock pumping trucks removing all the foam/water before the EPA does a final sign-off. The foam/water is taken to a recycling plant - of course, none of this comes for free!

4:54 BINGO!!!! These EV’s should have a surcharge for emergency costs as well as an insurance policy specifically for this scenario to cover the cost of environmental damages, fire rescue and the FULL remediation and recycling costs.

I live in an apartment complex, we have just had our first EV owner now parking his Tesla model 3 in his garage. Because of the layout his garage sits directly beneath another apartments bedroom, I'm glad his garage is up the driveway about 6 garages from mine away from my diesel Toyota and not under my bedroom. Wondering how our Strata building insurance company will look on it if we have a fire. Or worse if it butns someone to death in the bedroom above his garage. Just hope for no problems I guess.

In London today an elecibus caught fire inside the "low emissions zone"???so the emissions it took to build it,ship it here from abroad,then all the emergency services used to put out the fire,remove the wreckage &clean up all the debris plus repairs to the road..is it really worth it. Easier to carry on using an fuel driven vehicle which burn really clean now.. Ozzy 👍

There were four fires at BYD dealerships in China in December 2023 alone.

Just heard an EV bus has gone up in flames in the UK (Wimbledon) a few hours ago. So things are going swimmingly.

My neighbor’s tesla caught fire in his garage 2 months ago. It burned so hot that the strut mounts burst. The skeleton of the car had its struts just sticking out, fully extended. Our houses are under 20 years old, and I was very impressed that no flames reached inside their house from the garage. They were able to easily tow it away because it fully combusted. Nothing left to burn or reignite.

An electric bus has just gone up in flames in London today....

Would you fly on an electric plane? A local company which operates a float plane service between Vancouver Island and Metro Vancouver has an electric De Havilland Beaver in their fleet. They first started testing it around 2019, and there’s news stories from late this past summer of it still being tested, I hope saner heads prevail and they rethink the whole crazy idea.

They’re going to make these things mandatory.

And our highly unintelligent Australian Labor Governments don't care. You are expected to buy EV's and then it's your problem. Maybe someone needs to start a legal claim for damages from the government. Let's see how that goes.

End of the year i lost my work place cause of lithium battery thermal runaway. We use a lot of e-bikes for delivery our goods, and there were enough of one battery to burn down our shop

You would think they would just pick the vehicle up with a claw and dump it in a water tank to transport it. But yeah, owners should get billed for this. Also how much of the neighborhood should be evacuated for the toxic fumes? Imagine the lawsuits if somebody get ill from this, who gets sued? Car Owner, Car Maker, House Owner, local government that permitted this in a residential area, all of the above?

Insurance companies are not charities they are not going to take very expensive claims on EVs too often before they raise premiums to a level that people can't afford or won't pay, or they will just refuse to cover them at all. IMO..

To put the ev fire out contain all the hazardous materials and water and transport it to the wrecking yard would have cost more that the ev ( unburnt ) to buy One would think the bill would have been at least 40 thousand dollars or more And thats not counting the fire and water damage to the house and garage nor the hazmat clean up afterwards

So if the $5,000 blanket is left at the salvage yard covering the car it probably will never get returned to the Fire Dept and so it's a "one-time-usage" item such that Fire Depts. will have to carry a running inventory of them... rather an expensive "add-on" to overall EV ownership that we will all have to pay for. And of course there's all the additional resources that need to be paid for as well... these costs are significantly higher.

Great video and obviously the fire brigade in Colorado have not yet been taught that the blanket is not doing anything except hiding the fact that this was an EV, It would have been good to follow the journey of that Jag to see what occurred during its demolition at the junk yard. Also be interested to know what the repair cost was at the Home and also to the other car that was beside it. I guess we will never know because the EVangilists don't want it publicized in case we the dear people begin to think EV's are unsafe. Keep up the great work.

And the biggest problem of all of this is people still think electric vehicles are the way of the future and are still going to vote for government to force electric vehicles on people

The problem I see is that insurance premiums will go up for all in order to cover the costs. It won't just be the EV drivers as there's always a chance an ICE vehicle could hit an EV and be at fault, therefore that insurer has to cover the EV damage. One could argue that it's part of a bigger plan to price everyone but the elite off the roads.

Thanks for covering this. The blanket does not smother the fire, it contains it. There is only one known way to extinguish a Li battery fire, using copious amounts of supercooled brine.

Your last point is what I have also been saying. What happens and there were two EVs i. The garage in thermal runaway. Or if there were half a dozen in a parking station? How many blankets do they have? How many tow trucks? What if another EV on the other side of town went up at the same time?

It would be interesting to see if this is the case here in Australia as well but also can you imagine a apartment bock carpark, The difficulty of dragging these out of the tight confined parking bays or even a shopping carpark.

Condominium homeowners associations everywhere are probably in the process of adopting changes to their bylaws to ban EVs. I own a unit in a single story 4-plex and each unit has a 2 car garage, all under the same roof. One EV fire would take the whole building down, even with residential firewalls between units. I don't think they're designed for that intensity and duration of fire.

Just seen today that a ev double decker bus in Wimbledon London has cought fire in the Rush hour

The only thing that's going to happen under that "rubber" sheet is that the temperature inside is going to rise and eventually more batteries would catch fire.

Thank you for bringing this to us.

Before Tesla was a thing there were accounts of LiPo fires in the RC hobby - with some of those reigniting, too. Consider those batteries contained only a cell or two (@ 3.7v ea.) and Li-ion uses a liquid electrolyte over polymer - who thought stringing thousands of them together was a good idea :/

Now imagine all that having to happen every time there is a crash... and we have about 10,000+ crashes a year in australia that would be of scale for a call out like this.

I watched the fire department's video on this incident last night, and it's ridiculously fascinating.

In other news an electric bus went up in smoke in London today in the Ulez zone. Can't make this stuff up. Cheers!

Thanks for your informative and objective review.

It wouldn't be so bad if we were saving the planet. But we're not. We're in the middle of an hysterical reaction to some lies and exaggerations from the 'world is ending' crowd

The insurance compaines have raised rates to compensate for EV fires, and they have passed the cost on to ALL people.

I've never even heard of a fire caused by an ICE vehicle that is just sitting idle in a garage. While I've heard of backfires through a carburetor setting the hood insulation on fire, this is a very uncommon occurrence. It is more common for ICE vehicles to burn after being involved in a very serious accident where the fuel system is compromised, and even that is very rare.

If the fire can self oxidise, what good is the blanket?

Safe and effective.

We cannot allow these vehicles amongst other battery powered products to be “mandated”! We need to remind these politicians that they are “NOT!!!!!!” Our bosses they are not there to tell us what to do and what to buy or what to believe in they “ARE !!!!” Our servants WE ARE THE IMPORTANT ONES HERE!! Not them so please people remember the power is in our hands not theirs!

I live in Canada and just like Australia we spend a lot of time driving on gravel roads, I would not trust an EV car on such roads

What about the house smoke contamination? Insurance premiums? Liability?

As you have often mentioned ICE fires are usually put out fairly easily, often with a hand held fire extinguisher. I would love to see a comparison of the number of serious, out of control ICE fires compared to EV fires as all EV fires are serious and out of control. I think that might paint a very different picture.

I'm in Lake Tahoe Mguy. Despite endless drought and global boiling Heavenly got 19 inches of snow in the last 24 hours. Temp this morning minus 12 degrees C.

Loudoun County, Va has numerous house fires it seems. A few years back there were a couple of reports about EVs in the garage being the source or perhaps an electric scooter with a lithium ion battery left charging in a hallway. Nowadays, the fire departments will only say that the source of a fire was "electrical" in nature or from improperly charging items in the garage..... They wont get more detailed for "privacy's sake."

Hopefully, people will go to the ‘Everything Electric Show’ in Sydney (feb 24) and ask all of your questions.

How many thousands of dollars did the emergency response cost? Probably more than the car's worth.

You are so right. Everything you stated in this video is so spot on!!!!

If it wasn't for your channel I would never know about how common these EVs fires are

How big is the blanket when an electric delivery vehicle or truck is involved.

Didnt you say the batteries produce their own oxygen and thats why they burn so hot? Yet the commentator said ( when they were pulling that EV off with the $5K blanket over it) that the blanket prevents oxygen getting to the batteries so they wont go up again!! WTF!!

In Denver, 1 local news station did a minute bit on this so far.

It's good to see firefighting techniques have kept pace with modern technology and the emergency services now have cutting-edge "blankets" which can magically form an airtight seal with any surface or shape. My mind is at ease.

If you run the risk of burning your house down this kind of defeats the point of charging your electric car at you home doesn't it?

Just seen news. A EV London bus on fire.