JAJI - Companions: I can't speak Javanese 7/9 

Woww really.. nice to know.. greetings from Jakarta, Indonesia. Im also Javanese

Im Javanese from east java

Afrikaans is basically dutch

I’m Indonesian.. i was living in Pretoria for 3years.. yes some of the words both in bahasa Indonesia and Afrikaans are similar… it’s the dutch influence i believe 💗 If you travel to Cape Town, the Cape Malays are Indonesian descendants… In fact, the 1st person that brought Islam to South Africa is from Indonesia… He is Syekh Yusuf “Tuan Guru” So that’s why there’s “Macassar” in Western Cape named after Makasar, a city in South Sulawesi, Indonesia where Syekh Yusuf comes from 😊 Sadly, as per my experience… many South African’s knowledge about Indonesia was relatively low.. they know Bali, but didn’t know that Bali is a part of Indonesia.. Funny things they keep mistaken us for Thai, as the Thai population in South Africa is quite large.. around 3.000 people 😂 Well, out of 273.800.000 Indonesian population, only 300ish Indonesians are in South Africa… That’s the story for today.. Thank you for reading 😂

Karena di luar negeri memang wajib pny nama keluarga termasuk suriname dan itu gabisa dihilangin krn sejak lahir mrk bakal ngewarisin nama keluarga dari pihak bapak

It's such a shame, really. People really think that having native names are shameful and comedians kept on mocking people with native names.

Name is important.. when people heard about "NGUYEN" people know that's a Vietnamese, Vietnam, Pho, etc. Muhammad, ahmad = arab, murphy = irish.

Dont be like pakistan and the malay who totally lost their identity, especially in their name. Its 100% arabized/hebrews

@@yogaandika3573 yang wajib itu nama belakang, dan nama belakang belum tentu nama keluarga. Dalam kasusnya Jawa Suriname itu nama belakangnya ya nama keluarga, diambil dari leluhur mereka yang ke Suriname dari Jawa

I’m Chinese Indonesian, but I’ve never faced any discrimination, though I probably can’t say the same to my parents and grandparents. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

nah, I'm Chinese. I knew that fell

Exactly same condition with Singaporean Malays, most gen Z and Millenials cant speak Malay anymore in favor of english

@@anggitaputri3123 nah, now u know what the felling, same like Suriname Javanese, we Indonesia Chinese can't talk & speak Mandarin like our ancestor China.

Not only Chinese bruh, but we are here in Eastern Indonesian also got discrimination just cuz our skin is back and curly hair. This situation happened when we were in the Middle Indonesian like Java Island or other Islands

Salam, yup mostly 3rd and 4th gen Javanese descent in Malaysia no longer able to speak Javanese, it because inter- married among other ethnic, assimilation also play biggest factor, but to me as 3rd gen. I' m still able to speak and understand at least 'Jowo Kasar' we call it or Jowo Ngoko, my late father and late mother always speaking Javanese at home, that' s why I understand a little bit, outside we speak Bahasa Melayu, but it sad though when thinking our children lost their mother tongue language, I still remember my late grandmother said to me ' Ojo Nganti Ilang Boso Jowone' 😢....

Berarti mentalnya beda dengan orang sunda. Orang sunda gak bakal malu atau bahkan lupa dengan darah/bahasa Sunda nya..

@@febrianeki6668 Ya betul memang banyak anak2 muda yg lahir di luar asal mereka, malu/tidak mau belajar berbicara bahasa ibu mereka. Tapi itu juga bukan sepenuhnya salah mereka, karena orang tua juga tidak mau mengajari sejak dini untuk berbicara "bahasa ibu" ketika di rumah. Contohnya banyak teman2 saya di Jakarta yg asal-usulnya orang tuanya Sunda, tapi mereka tidak bisa bahasa Sunda cuma bisa bahasa Indonesia dialek jakarta.

​@@febrianeki6668 lah itu orang betawi literally orang2 sunda yang kawin campur terus mengadopsi bahasa Melayu gara2 Belanda

I'm javanese and I can't speak javanese language. Ik ben tussen Aucaners opgegroeid op Moengo. Ga je me ook voor djobol uitmaken???

leuk hoor, dat je de Javaanse taal spreekt. het is altijd leuk om een andere taal te kunnen spreken.

Doe normaal jeetjes... typisch creool. Je komt dom en achtrlijk over. Het is niet je taal, is geen gewichtigheid dat je het kan spreken

what djobol means?

ja wtf is djobol 🤣

Yes, I'm Javanese we know about Suriname and Javanese diaspora

Orang Jawa di Suriname ya ini?

Jadi lucu ya Jawa di Suriname lain dari yang di Indonesia?

@@cargiewinata1963 iya, aku pikir karena sudah bercampur budaya ya... jadi unik... keren sih menurutku... jadi pengen ke sana

💋💋💋💋 be blessed too

Agreed, even the youngsters in my city (Malang) seems to reluctant to use Javanese in socmed..

sadly jakarta is not java at all.

@@radhityaaji1160 geographically still a part java, and it's still dominant by javanese if you're willing to take a deeper look, even though they don't really show their javanese side

bcuz people are jealous so they hate on javanese 🤣🤣

Yang terkenal dengan sebutan orang jawa adalah mereka orang yang berasal dari provinsi jawa tengah dan jawa timur,, walau kita masih satu pulau dengan jakarta dan jawa barat, tapi bahasa daerah kita sudah berbeda .. contohnya bahasa jawa dan bahasa sunda itu sangat jauh berbeda, walau kami masih di satu pulau jawa. .. Iki adalah keindahan dan keunikan Negata indonesia. ..

Koreksi lur, iki ndek Suriname, suriname iku neng amerika selatan

@@kaksoispistev5403 ohiyo ng amerika selatan ya,,matur suwun wes di elingne mas

Ra takok

Ora penting 😂

what do you think about Chinese Indonesian who lossing their culture and language? I think it's same Case,right?

@@loetfiehakim4477 lol no, Javanese people in Suriname are forced to work by the Dutch, while the Chinese in Indonesia are due to the will of the Chinese themselves to come to Indonesia and settle here, Chinese were hated because they had helped the Dutch and Japanese colonization.

@@HudHarry it's hoax. In the fact Javanese came to Suriname because they have contract work with Dutch. After finished contract they can go back to Indonesia, but until Suriname independen from Dutch, they choose to stay in Suriname.

@@loetfiehakim4477 they were forced to sign contracts, and the Javanese at that time were illiterate because no one went to school (forbidden by the Dutch government). those who choose to stay are the second descendants, and think that Suriname is their hometown

@@HudHarry Can you provide evidence that the Javanese were forced to sign contracts with the Dutch?

Javanese has disapperared among the Cape Malays 14 0 years ago as a great percentage were Javanese but they spoke more Malay as the Bugis, Makassarese, Mel;aly,Mandar , Sumbawa, Balinese and Minangkabau, Maluku decendent malays were more and Melayu of Batavia was language of education and religion.

@@mrastazwanan8803 These people are part of a diaspora. You cant expect them to keep culture and traditions alive in a foreign country. Its a miracle that the javanese have kept the culture strong in surinam eventho having to survive in a place where javanese language does nothing for you.

@@mrastazwanan8803 lol Javanese are not native in cape, either they adopt malay custom or go away simple.

Javanese never should disappear, however its importante to Java be a free land and nation to maintain your culture alive and strong.

nahh.. as long as Kraton Surakarta lan Jogja still exist, the Javanese hierarchy (Kromo-Ngoko) language would be still highly preserved i think.

wong Jowo Suriname iku kebanyakan seko daerah magelang lho

I speak some Ngoko, my love for Indonesia and Java in particular is only getting bigger as I become older. The Dutch have committed a big crime by luring uneducated Javanese to work in Suriname and exploiting us for decades on plantations. I feel displaced in away and I wished Indonesia had some sort of law to make it easier for diaspora to return or retire in Java.

kenapa bersedih? di saat orang chindo kehilangan etnilinguistik, orang china daratan tak bersedih...

Javanese ppl in surinam will never forget who they are nor where they came from. Just because newer generations dont grow up using the language doesnt mean they dont know the culture and traditions etc. The culture is preserved in surinam and in the Netherlands so there is no need for sadness lol

@@Jblah ...I fully agree with you.

Jangankan suriname, saya keturunan jawa solo magelang dari ayah ibu aja ga bisa bahasa jawa sama sekali, karena lahir dan besar di jakarta

@@jungookookie413 harusnya kalo sama ayah-ibu pake bahasa Jawa

So it's true, "Javanese people are no longer Javanese".

@@barbs896 if the people near them doesn't know Javanese of course they don't know

Aku orang Jawa Lampung,masih fasih bahasa Jawa walaupun Jawa Ngoko ,kalau Jawa yg halus tau dikit

Greetings from Suriname

@@svenresosemito1824 i'm from jawa jember

Suriname,wong jowo ing suriname isone mung gawe boso belanda

Sing enom wes podo ga iso omong jowo,isone omong boso belanda

ngapain harus takut? chindo di Indonesia juga nggak bisa bahasa cina, orang cina dari negara China juga nggak peduli akan hal itu...

@@loetfiehakim4477 apasih lu, cindag cindog

Gawe opo? Melok wong-wong Londo penak'e ra kaprah koq kape mbalik menyang simbah buyut terus 🤣.

Lah malah nganngo boso indo, pie mas e iki.

sampeyan wae malah nggo boso melayu udu boso jowo🥴

Wong Sinau basa kuwi merga butoh, ora kur merga nguri-nguri budaya. Ning Kono sing kanggo basane kur basa Londo karo basa daerah e Kono dhewe (mboh opo jenenge lali aku) karo basa enggres. Mulane aja dipekso nganggo basa Jawa merga ora kenek digawe omong-omongan karo wong sak ndunyo.

Hahaha shit happens bro

nah gua Juga penasaran, kok bisa beda gitu ya...? wkwk

@@loetfiehakim4477 mix marriage. Cause in Suriname so many race also. U can see sherefa father are black surinamean.

Its simply because Javanese in surinam and holland are not afraid of the sun or to get brown. In fact we love the sun and we dont really prefer white skin like in Indonesia. Surinam is a brown country and even the white people are trying to get tanned here and in holland aswell.

@@Jacobsoetsrto3211 its not always mix marriage. You can tell who is ethnically fullblood javanese by looking at the facial structures. Has nothing to do with color. In Surinam everyone is brown or at least tanned. Sherefa father is african btw. Hes not from surinam im not mistaking

@@Jblah where are u from

The problem is whether the teachers can speak Javanese or not

@@herman6539 many teacher from indonesia who can speak java...