James Webb Just Detected A Huge Structure Older Than The Universe! 

Just like the Bible says at Ps 90:2:- Before the mountains were born Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, From everlasting to everlasting, you are God. Basically, time is infinite in both directions- past and future. Good to see science providing the evidence.

@@mandandi Religion is poison. Drop that god shit. Read a real book and not the bible.

@@mandandi Strange why the bible didn't provide any evidence.

@@vivo-audioWhat evidence would you have wanted? Many of the Bible's teachings are presented in the form of allegories. Some portions of it are rules created for individuals to use to survive as a people and in the New Testament, aside from the Gospel, are how to create and run faith worship groups (churches).

@@chrismason123 Pointing the JWT at the farthest reaches and earliest developments of the universe to gather information on how trillions of galaxies were first formed, does not constitute evidence that a God exists. However, particle physics and astronomy does exists and we now have a pretty good understanding of how the universe was created and the biology that eventually led to the evolution of life. Because life DID evolve, it wasn't created as it says in the Bible. We have overwhelming evidence for this. Science wins over faith every single time.

Hi Tyrannasauruz. No, it's not just clickbait. I'm older than the universe because I sure feel it right now. Miserable cheers, P.R.

It was talked about around 9:30 to 10:00

Hi Curtis. 9:30 to 10:00 talks about dark matter. Cheers, P.R.

click bait deceit 1

@@juliangalvin7753 Hi Julian. Yep, but it keeps us on our toes. Cheers, P.R.

Yup 💯

Wait…what about “to infinity & beyond”?!

Beyond infinity is just more infinity. I'm no math whiz, but I imagine something greater than infinity making as much sense as diving zero.

Some times plumbers are more logical than the scientists

There is a hypothetical theory (I call it this as I think we need a new categorisation for special ideas that are not proven but can be tested as a hypothesis) that suggests that the measurements for far away objects ARE incorrect and some of the red shift measurements are caused by light decay and therefore distance is not accurate. It is merely hypothetical at this stage but in fact alongside wild hypothesis as primordial black holes forming solar systems accounting for the missing mass measured in stars, and another load of wild ideas including potentially older than the universe galaxies, we COULD be on the verge of some very very interesting discoveries, but then again, maybe not lol. Science has become a clergy, scientists needs freedoms to test new a new hypothesis and not just imagine that the model in their head is reality, when reality is what we observe, and for that matter we may not even be observing it right anyway. Onwards we must go.

Usual clickbait titles

I believe they said, "halo dark matter objects"

I was randomly reading the comments while watching the video and you reminded me why I clicked this video.

Misleading and outright false RU-vid video titles are a problem. I hope it's being worked on.

Since they abolished the thumb's down bar, the quality of videos have gone downhill.

"Strange" or, as I'd like to describe them; "INFURIATING".

Yeah, I noticed. But they are few and far between. To me it's amazing that robot voices are now this good.

It's horrible

How do u no it's an AI ,,?

Maybe it pronounces that way because the person who programmed it pronounces those words that way.

there was a big bounce not a big bang, we know this because singularities are mathematical errors, it means relativity doesn't work at that level.

there was a big bounce not a big bang, we know this because singularities are mathematical errors, it means relativity doesn't work at that level.

Yes ! 1) Linear thinking is a big constraint in all our thought processes ! 2) Big bounce is a better word than big bang !?. After decades .... It may be described as a ' Big - Blip ' All the same , the video is good. But can be in 2 parts .i) Sire cosmos ii) and Mr . Mars

The difference is that we have evidence for one Big Bang. We don't have evidence for two or more. It's that simple. You either base your science on evidence or you're not a scientist.

@@sriramamurtikakarla455 This video is terrible ... just like all of this clown's other videos. For one, it's just clickbait. He keeps saying that everything Webb finds is older than the universe but astronomers have never said that about the JWST discoveries. He's just making up BS.

God Is Amazing.

Yes, there is a logical bias, because that supposes the existance of supernatural powers. No such powers has yet been proved in any way of form.

So the bias is against a supernatural power, (even without evidence proving there can’t be any transcendent supernatural power). That bias is like presupposing the universe gradually evolved without observing a single evolving galaxy or star anywhere in the universe, throughout its time of existence. @@zeriousvolt1245

@@zeriousvolt1245 Then you have been asleep at the wheel.

I think the older variety of that theory was called "Steady-State Cosmology". It was mainly expounded by Fred Hoyle, and argued that creation is an ever-ongoing process: matter, stars and galaxies have always been created anew, to fill in for galaxies and stars that have decayed or ended up disintegrating due to "Entropic cold death". The universe, therefore, would be eternal and essentially endless. The theory fell out of favour with astronomers more than fifry years ago.

​@superdave19855 Same thing as letting Jesus take the wheel.

All Glory to JWST.

Yes please. We want DATA!!!

And we want videos that actually contain the information in the teaser. Getting sick of false claims.

Why doesn’t this turn on us and observe asteroids and unusual dark sun and red dwarfs that could be in our own solar system? Isn’t this just a huge distraction tool for our own fate to our earth and we are to survive. Ask the pope who built this bio scope or penned name Lucifer right here in the us. Took over Native American ground to build it.

Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research (LUCIFER).

I'll probably sound like a simpleton to ask such a question in this forum but can someone help me understand how this fascinating knowledge is going to be useful to life here on Earth. Way too far out to be searching for Earth bound asteroids so are we trying to prove or disprove Genesis 1? What else could it be? Anyway I've always wanted to ask a scientist this question. Thank you.

@@donkeyearrs It's interesting stuff, but probably useless at this point in time.

@@donkeyearrs Not everyone believes the Bible there are many other religions in the world. The goal with science generally isn't to "disprove genesis" which is just laughable to even hear someone say, but to discover actual answers or truths, opposed to believing something you read in a book that was written by men thousands of years ago.

@@donkeyearrs questionning about Genesis 1 proves that these knowledge are completely useless for a stupid specie like us.

Hi Joey. They use the same headline philosophy that the newspaper industry does: NEVER THE LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD HEADLINE. Cheers, P.R.

Besides the click baiting? That game messes with people's time.

I agree, this was a huge clickbait title and the producer should be ashamed

Get the seeds. Up in smoke.

im thicker, does this mean that we are at mile marker 1

Profound.

@@Justone372 Not really profound, just true. It's more like the video title is being lurid.

@@Nonononono_Ohno "The Universe" always means The Universe as we know it . . . or believe it to. be.

Someone anyone show me one grain of sand turning into 2 or one grain getting bigger before my eyes like a big bang would have done Someone Anyone

@@MrCrowebobby Sure. And that also means that it includes everything that we can now see, or will be able to see in the future when telescopes get better. Thus, I hope you will agree, it's not possible to detect anything that's older than the universe itself.

"In the words of Gupta, “Our newly-devised model stretches the galaxy formation time by several billion years, making the universe 26.7 billion years old, and not 13.7 as previously estimated.” The universe might be much older than we thought, and that could shed light on some of its biggest mysteries." So yes, it still isn't close to 6,000 years old.

Yes I agree

I have wondered that same thing, but I think the answer is related to the nature of the expansion. We cannot imagine an "explosion" in space, which indeed would send energy outward in every direction that isn't obstructed. That is not what the Big Bang describes. The Big Bang describes the origin of the electromagnetic (ie space-time) continuum itself, with all the warpage that results. As mass takes form within this framework - both the kind we know and the "dark" kind that is mysterious, it bends and warps the universe unevenly. But a physicist would need to confirm me on that.

more word salad than logic.

good question. in space (vacuum) these objects should only travel in the direction it was first blown out, and in a STRAIGHT line, according to all known physics.

Yes, this is an interesting assumption and in some parts quite close to my ideas! That would explain perfectly the different expansion speeds (Hubble tension)... This also means that the universe is multi-dimensional and automatically a multiverse (here I would agree 100%)... I am always happy when I discover imagination and creative thoughts with fellow human beings, that brings us on the right way! 😃

No. There was no center to the big bang. The center of the big bang was a center in time, not in space, because the big bang happened everywhere.

Listen to yourself. First of all, what are the chances earth sits the EXACT CENTER of it all? Do you really believe a big bang happened now? It's a stupid as flat earth theory

I Thought space and time was the same thing? How can a big bang from a singularity be everywhere? Yes, it goes everywhere in all directions in my limited view .@@wefinishthisnow3883

aha ...

Okay

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Same. Thank you for these mind expanding posts. There is no threat to us as a species, realizing we don’t know everything and that our theories do not match the evidence. It’s a learning process that never ends perhaps.

And still, cosmologists and astrophysicists hold talks as if they would know everything.

@@Nyruami absolutely!

what's to say that our moon wasn't placed there for the very reason?

You need a strong magnetic field which requires a strong current in a liquid ferrometal core like earth. Mars has none today, maybe in the beginning of time. Probably the core solidified or was too small...

It is theorized that earths moon creates our high core temperatures to have the magneto effect for our magnetic field.

@@charharn7011 The moon could be causing heating due to gravitational friction.

@@DilbertMucsurprisingly Mars's core is liquid. For a strong magnetic field (like Earth has had for about 1 billion years) you need solid inner core and liquid outer core (iron/nickel).

Are you making fun of our intelligence? How can a galaxy be older than the universe like you say at 1:08 ?

Don't abuse yourself. Dig into the physics of stellar fusion for a few days and look for the paradoxes. Stellar fusion is impossible. The 'older than the universe' galaxy thing is based on those same impossible ideas. It's fictional. There was no big bang. There is no redshift of distant galaxies. That's all fiction. There was no 'beginning' by any valid logic or observation. Our own solar system is at least 14 billion years old which is, according to this video, 'older than the universe.' I can prove that by the orbital systems. Stop letting yourself be wowed or confused by theories of creationism. There was no beginning and there won't be any end.

current methods of temporal calculation are in need of an upgrade (as are many other systems of "science")

@@cankhovich1796 The upgrades are not difficult to comprehend. Hubble's fLaw out. Big bang theory out. Stellar fusion out. The universe is infinite in extent. There is nothing indicating any beginning or end. E does not equal m*c squared. Life is where fusion and nucleogenesis occurs (aka the Cosmological Constant).

We cannot say another galaxy is older than the universe until we know for sure how old are universe is..we don’t know yet.

Yeah, a human with a brain the size of a pea. For example, pronouncing 'earky' as 'ear-lee'. Poster doesn't want to take the trouble of getting a human to read the script. It would mean they could not pocket as much money as they get for allowing commercials to interrupt the narration at odd times. Got to think of making money first.

There could be many/infinite universes. That's how.

Because everything that came to existence has to have a cause and every cause has a causer and every cause exists before the event it caused

@@GospodinJean According tothat theory, God [if you believe in such a thing] must have had a causer. Too many theories, too many ideas about the big questions. I think everyone on this planet should simply admit we don't have a damn clue about the big questions in relation to the universe !

I'm detecting a major emission of hubris from your own galaxy. You just watched a video that offered next to nothing quantifiable that 'upends' our understanding of the universe much less supports your musings. And the whole purpose of the telescope is to discover new things, hard to see how our quest for knowledge is being held back.

@@bearclaw5115 His reference is to the telescope itself, not this poorly made video. Yeah, blame it on the video and you can avoid the problems the telescope is causing the theorists.

@@dustydesert1674 The James Webb isn't causing problems. It's discovering things we didn't know before. Scientists then try to make sense of it until theories can be dismissed or proven into fact. That's how science works. There is no blame in science. The blame comes from ignorant people who can't stand being too stupid to understand science.

Scientists aren't smug. Stupid people who baselessly think they know better than scientists are smug. "I always *FELT* ...." THAT'S the problem! You don't THINK, you feel. The ability to expand 'our' quest for knowledge, comes from discovery, study, theorize, calculate and proove. Not from 'feeling'.

@@arturama8581 I appear to have touched a nerve. Who are you to presume that I am not a scientist? Have you ever engaged in debates within the scientific community? I think not. I would suggest that read about what happens with a paradigm shift in science occurs.

I know I'll go to hell for this comment but I'm very curious if these amazing new images are swaying the minds of those who believe that a divine living being created the universe.

Time only exists on earth.

@@BeingHisCreationYou’re a moron. 😂

@@BeingHisCreationYou’re someone who has literally never opened a science textbook at all.

​@@BeingHisCreation😂

Time doesn't exist time is only a man made concept used to keep track of repetitive changes of light if the speed of light was slightly faster or slower due to interferences in its path than u would see gaps and bridges in time

We're humans. Question answered.

The physics of Einstein, where matter and gravity do not exist, that is the persistent illusion. Otherwise there is an aether, singularities do not exist, and the universe never changes. It is infinite in extent, has no beginning or end, and eternally recycles the same energy forever.

Another possibility is that we are on the cusp of discovering that even what we thought we are turns out to be wrong and we know even less that we did before.

@@oakbellUK We scientifically proved big bang theory absurd over 80 years ago when Edwin Hubble proved that galaxy distribution does not match any explosion idea at all. More recently dark energy has been proven to not exist. Dark energy theory is/was an attempt to explain gravity calculations which prove the big bang theory wrong. Read the Physics of Paradox Null to see how science has failed to use science and what the real conclusions are.

who...Gods children what...eternal beings universe...God creation

no. its not the 'only' way to explain things. you could also explain it by their being a creator. its interesting seeing ants trying to figure out an automobile and think they are always so correct in their observations. its so arrogant.

@@jasonpierce4518 So true! Silly scientific types, when will they learn that a magic man in the sky is always a better explanation.

i do believe that it may have been more 'dramatic' than we used to believe. I believe the 'explosion' might have been not a singularity but a series of them in a very tightly pack amount of 'time'. that lead some of the mass to be expulse very fast and way before the actual 'normal' universe we see today, making some galaxies way older and further away than we 'normally' see. These 'proto' galaxies were the first form because they were the first to be blast away. Like in a nuclear bomb, there is a first explosion, that compress even more before the big one finally happen. Maybe something similar happened with the big bang.

@@jasonpierce4518 There are no creators that build universes, gods do not exist. It's a prehistoric concept invented by people that had no clue of science. So as long as there is no indication of gods, science can not include it as reality. BTW do you really believe ants are trying to figure out an automobile? You are weird.

We shouldn't be afraid to contradict the big bang or any other theory. If observations discredit it then we should abandon it. We possibly are looking at a multiverse where ours collided with another to form the trillions of galaxies we're observing. In other words prior to said collision there was only dark matter. Other tangents are possible and should be explored.

ae you saying that SH argued there was more than one biug bang going on?

don’t recall that exactly but my inderstanding of a lot of big bangs could be super novas which do happen on a fairly constant basis.

It's still rather reddish, just not as red as the photos suggest. It's all the iron oxide (rust) in the soil.

It's possible. We humans may never know. At least you didn't fall into the God of the Gaps Theory ✌️

El , thanks . I am with you ! 🌒🤷🏻‍♂️🤔🥺🤓

Oh yeah! I'm just a love machine and I won't work for nobody but you! Pooh yeah!

the original meaning of "Universe" was *all that IS, known or unknown, seen or unseen* - therefore it includes 'multiverse' the 'other side' and even god - that meaning has been recently subverted to meet an agenda according to Natural Universal Law (the first law of thermodynamics, aka the law of conservation of energy) the Universe was not created, but is in fact *eternal*

inside galaxy cores there are white holes (=quasars) We R wrong all the time. Galaxies are created from the matter ejected from these quasars

You need a lesson in grammar before ever writing another comment fool....

Totally different guy. You are talking about Jimmy T. Webb apparently.

@CareyKuhlmey-qj5vi yes, of course. Do you know him too?

Very poignant question! The so-called “astrophysicists” are trained to invent “guesses” called “hypothesis” or “models” underpinned by man-made “Mathematics” that started with addition and subtraction, then so many cooks appeared to spoil the Cosmic Soup with so many outgrowths called negative numbers, IMAGINARY numbers, and those based on drawings of straight and curved lines…. then Newton coming up with a construct called Calculus to predict planetary motion… Einstein tried to explain Light with what Huygen couldn’t, and then built the Rules of Tensor Calculus atop Newton’s construct give “mathematical shorthands” for Relativity notions, then Schrödinger et al. slapped him with the tiny paws of a black cat in a black box and brought in the Mother of all Lies called Statistics to justify… And then Hubble got the Theory of Red Shift to “explain” his optical telescopic visual observations, as though the Red Shift theory based on Doppler “effect” that conjures our sense of Hearing and Seeing is the only possibility to explain the Red Shift optical illusion of trillions around (like infinite number of the image of a lamp put between two parallel mirrors!)… Then came Ultraviolet telescope, Chandra and a big extra terrestrial Optical telescope Hubble together… and now extended to the Near-Infrared version called James Webb… and now astrophysics kids and their uncles at the big universities and observatories that run on taxpayers money are having OMG kicks from the weird observations coming from the JWST and 😂fun of joking at the “errors” of omissions and commissions of their predecessors, like the demolition Derby played out among the bygone Einstein vs Bohr, Blackhole vs String Theory …. and now the playground is expanding to fill in the 95% of Space not “seen” with the Trinity of telescopes (optical, ultraviolet and infrared) with Dark Energy and Dark Matter, OMG, no more Light and Mass!!! Keep on playing demolition Derby, dudes while your governments keep levying taxes to grow bigger their bellies and buns, destroying former Colonies while your grey matters keep firing neurons to explain your conjured visions with Darkness. See you all after our terrestrial deaths, gathered before the Super Intelligent, bringing us to the Book where All Information is Preserved.

The universe is expanding and galaxies collide if one is in the path of the other.

Expansion is apparent on a scale of millions of light years but less than that gravitational attraction may pull them closer like for example the milky way and andromeda

Seconded. Ty!

Exactly

Your in dream land.

​@@srb4722beautiful dream

@@srb4722 and you know? ......pause.......please fill me in

There is no god. Grow up.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

thomas wrote, _"there are better channels without the spin and click bait titles."_ Well, whatever you do, keep those channels to yourself. Don't mention them here, where others might go and consider for themselves whether what you're saying is true. Just say 'there are others' without showing anything because that's a scientific mind at work... right? No? Then what ought someone do when they make a claim? Wait, what? Oh, I see: they should post some kind of substance that supports what they claim? Well, that's absolutely brilliant! Surely, smart people do this all the time, right? No? Well, why not?

@@RichardHarlosPut your bong away and take a breath.

@@thomasowens5824 I have a better idea: Lose the presumptuous ad hominem and name the channels.

@@SayWhut276 Thanks for the channel mentions. Just to be clear, though, my reply to thomas was to make the point that if you say there are better alternatives, but you don't mention what those alternatives are, then you're not being helpful -- it's just noise-making. If thomas truly had better channels in mind when he wrote that, then it would have required less effort to simply mention a few of them, than to be opaque and ad hominem. This reveals that thomas has no interest in being helpful. Instead, he's just here to posture a little, looking for a dopamine hit, so he can feel like he's 'better than' or 'more than' others. It's a fool's errand... an adolescent ego indulgence. So, I called him out. Not that it's likely to have an effect, but sometimes it still feels right to call-out people who are more interested in being critical than in being helpful.

According to Hubble's fLaw we are the center of the universe and the point were it all began. Scientists have studied every direction and found no trend indicating otherwise, meaning everything is flying away from us or, because redshift does not exist, there is no general trend of movement at all in any direction. Big bang theory is a myth. The notion that there was any beginning comes from misreading the Bible. Big bang theory originated with George Lemaitre, Catholic Priest.

Worddd

The expansion is happening in all directions. Look in any direction..... if what you see is blue shifted, then it's coming toward us. If it's red shifted, then it's going away. If you look farther into the distance, then you're looking back in time.

​@@srb4722 #1 Redshift as strictly indicated by spectral line shifts have not and cannot be conducted on distant stars. We don't have powerful full-spectrum telescopes and we never have. #2 Take a look at a the Hubble Telescope XDF. Zero apparent redshift. None at all. Same colors of galaxies, same distribution and all the same galaxy types as locally. The universe that far away is exactly the same as the universe around here. There is no evidence of any expansion.

@@srb4722 if this is true then where is the matter and energy coming from? Something has to take the place of the empty space as galaxies fly apart. If the universe has all this matter, antimatter, dark energy and dark matter; then all that either has to be created as we expand or come from some place else. This could be the multiverse or something else

Time is a constant, non time was anti matter. which needs to be measured and we do not..yet..how much Quantum theory brings forth the anti-matter answer..there is someone to answer, a theory.

@zeriousvolt1245: Yes, I agree, well thought out.

Of which you have zero evidence.

I imagine it is like it was studying biology just after the discovery of DNA: Exciting! Engaging! Fascinating! Constantly changing, growing and revealing! Hope engendering. eg: the discovery that a DNA female can express as a _functioning_ male, who sires only girls.

Not really or actually...... not at all. @@thisbushnell2012

smart observation :)

We already do that.

It seems far more likely that we will destroy ourselves with overpopulation and habitat destruction.

We can't. The neo-Marxist elites don't think we should spend any more money on space exploration. All that money needs to go to reparations and housing illegal immigrants.

How so? I was trying to not ask but I really want to know how you see this as sad and ask to stop it…

Who did Cain, Abel & Seth marry...?

There is not such a thing if the space itself was created. The closer picture is a squized sponge rather than a baloon. So 3D Cassical thinking does not apply here. Well, speculations. Big bang is just a theory.

@@luchiandacian8815 Its not JUST a theory.. it is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts. Its not guessing its more than likely that it happened this way as the maths tells us so.