Shabir really seems to be very ignorant on this topic, as I listened to this debate I noticed that he committed several fallacies. First to claim that Angel of the Lord and Spirit of the Lord are just parallelism of the Lord is nonsensical, we clearly see from the scripture that they are distinct from one another but not separate, dr. Ally simply chooses to ignore that fact or he is simply ignorant on that. Next topic is the Quran being eternal, Tawheed is a complete opposite to the Hypostatic procession meaning that if Quran is eternal and part of Allah‘s knowledge but yet separate from Allah but not Allah it means you have 2 eternal separate identities, meaning Allah and Quran which according to Shabir is separate from Allah. It simply means two eternal identities or two Gods. The Torah on the other hand is a part of God’s attribute, meaning it’s his knowledge and not separate from him. The Torah is created by God, meaning it’s his knowledge that is inseparable from him. Also the Torah is inspired word of God which is inspired by God’s knowledge that is inseparable from God. So Shabir’s argument ultimately fails, because Quran is uncreated, Torah is inspired by God‘s eternal knowledge which is his attribute. Again Tawheed denies the Hypostatic procession meaning the Quran must be a separate identity apart from Allah from eternity.
Bible says there’s a time for everything I would say that includes leisure time. I would also say there’s absolutely nothing wrong with playing video games, or watching TV or watching a movie as long as we do not neglect the important things, for example, the commandments of God. If I’m wrong (which I do not think I’m wrong) then how does “there’s a time for everything” not include leisure time? It’s a Simple question.
Wait, James White now thinks that human works matter in eternity? That's interesting. Also, this "exhortation" loses all of its "teeth", all of its "punch" when one remembers that White also believes that God sovereignly determined and brought it about that young men would waste so many hours playing videogames.
@@dustinwho4252 no. He most certainly does think that God imagines, ordains, and brings to pass every last second of every person's life. You should stick around. I'm going to utterly wreck his whole theological system.
@@John17apologetics the arbitrary arguments against the biblical view of the Doctrines of Grace are nothing but man centered fallacy. I've seen more debate on the subject than ever needed to be considered well read "combined with the actual reading of Scripture of course". As the dead in sin and absolute lost/ wicked man I was there's no way anything within me chose Christ without Him first choosing me. Never would I be convinced otherwise. Grace and nothing more
