With the exception of the F90 series and maybe the Javelin, post UC110 EFF grunts are really underarmed compared to UC90s MS. I know Unicorn was made long after Victory, but seeing how well equipped a ReZEL or a Jegan (espscially the Stark Jegan) is compared to the Jamesgun is really jarring.
I wish I was in the cutting room floor when designing mobile suits in the gundam universe just so I can hear the guy in the room who pitches the name Jamesgun lol. I know some names in the universe are ridiculous but that just sounds like someone's name that they just slapped on to a gun and then call it A-day. Then again this is the same series that gave us one of the names from iron Blooded orphans that I still say to this day is 1 of the stupidest names I've ever heard for a gundam: Rebuke Full City. I know I know there's a significance behind that 1 but it's still a dumb name. Nice video surrounding these very obscure mobile suits Kararot!
its actually a pretty funny in universe joke. GMs are also called Jims. Jim is a diminutive was to call James. the jamesgun is also a smaller size MS compared to the original GMs. also, the gun part is probably from Gundan(which is the word for army), so its name is amissnomer for GM Army.
Yes more Late UC content!!! I also was wondering are you going to finish the rest of the RX-78 development, like on the later 4-7 Gundams from Operation V? And any backstory on the RX-81 G Line units would be great too
The thing I find bizzare is that the Aqua Javelin was made as a replacement for the Sea Jeagen... which implies the Sea Jeagen was in service alongside the Heavygun and Jamesgun. Man, the Federation really hates updating their military, don't they.
@@YiminyCricket pretty much, they didnt feel the need to invest into new machines, as the older models performed perfectly fine as anti insurection tools.
I wonder why mass production Federation MS have J sounding names most of the time. I guess for consistency. We got: GM (Jim) Jeda Jegan Jesta Heavygun (the stand out exception) Jamesgun Javelin
There's a mobile suit called "Javeous" (RGM-147 ジェイブス) The successor of RGM-122 Javelin Also, I hope Aqua Javelin and Sea Jegan will be added into MSV Earth Federation force after U.C 100 almost never Develop any Mass Production Amphibious Mobile Suit
Well since most invading forces normally take to space, sky snd land thanks to minofsky craft battleships their world no need for amphibious units past the uc90s
I was watching your heavygun development history yesterday and thinking "Man, now I want a jamesgun development history." And just a couple hours later you upload this! Also does anyone else think the jamesgun's design is actually really cool?
Well I’ve gained a new appreciation for the Jamesgun and Javelin. You mentioned how you usually gain a better appreciation of the units when making these videos and the same can be said of me watching them. I really overlooked these units in the past and now I feel guilty for doing so.
I hate to sound like a broken racket but will you ever get to the Gundam later types(rx-78-4/rx-78-5/rx-78-6/rx-78-7) I know your probably working on it or for got about it but I really use your development history videos to fill in the missing details on some mobile suit
Victory Gundam remains the only non SD-Gundam series I've never watched. I'm not aware of it streaming legally anywhere and I dislike piracy. I'm sure I could find some old Japanese DVD release but that's more effort than it's worth to me sadly. The show doesn't actually sound very good in most of the the summaries I've seen. I'd probably like if it I could find it though. I just don't expect all that much.
at this point just go to a streaming site and watch it there. also, yeah, the show isnt the best. its basically dumb depressed tomino sharting his way into AU-ness, and calling it part of the UC. it does have its redeeming qualities. the animation is great, being late 89 early 90's. the character designs and personalities is also solid. but the story and the MS design leaves ALOT to be desired. in many ways, if you like how dumb the grunts look in crossbone, you probably shouldnt have a problem with them in victory, some actually look great, almost like very streamlined versions of old designs. i particularly like the looks of the shokew line, and the gengaozo. also, the gottrlatan looks like an evolution of the gerbera tetra kai(although i still like the GT more).
I feel like we arent giving enough credit to the Jamesgun for being 30 years old and still being able to put up a considerable fight. If you think about it, a Jamesgun was able to hold out against 4 Bespa MS in an off-screen fight for 2+ MINUTES. That chad Jamesgun lasted 2 minutes against a numerically and technologically superior foe. (It was ep. 11 I think)
Could have sworn Kakarot had already did a video about this, but between gundam facts video on "Kickass Old GMs" and Kakarot's own vid on the Heavygun I may be a bit confused.
I find it odd that the fed never learned from the zeon conflict, they had years of history to help them prepare for that zanscare and bespa forces. Training should have been second nature to them as earth fighting force
If the feds were competent then there wouldn't be any need for gundams and their gifted teen pilots. GMs, Gunblasts, Jamesguns etc. are only there to show that the villains mean business, like the red shirts in Star Trek.
The Zeon wars were over 50 years ago by the time of Victory Gundam though, the Earth Federation was in a deep economic recession and in their estimation couldn't support a strong military without risking economic collapse. The turmoil created by the recession was one of the reasons Zanscare rose to prominence in the first place as a reactionary group that gained traction as the Federation was floundering. The Federation chose to quietly slink away and hope for the best, which... was not a great decision as it turned out.
After Char's Counterattack and Unicorn, the UC was overall far less chaotic; things like the Oldsmobile Army were isolated incidents more than they were full civilization scale wars, and the era began with nearly 30 years of relative peace. Earth was also declining into a prolonged economic recession, the Federation was in that regard scaling back its military spending significantly- it's shown to be one of the resolutions in Unicorn's finale and epilogue. Part of those cuts involved scaling back its presence in space and riding out whatever mobile suits they already had for as long as possible- the Jegan being a prime example of that being still mainlined by F90/F91 despite being 30 years old. Also worth keeping in mind, Late UC material constantly jumps forward multiple decades- thus why the Jamesgun and Javelin were introduced already severely obsolete in their animated appearances. The Cosmo Babylon conflict was 123 and the nation barely survived 5 years before bankrupting itself and dissolving; Zanscare didn't form and invade until the late 140's-early 150s. Most of the Crossbone material is fairly isolated away from the broader eye of the Federation- out on the Jupiter Sphere where they've largely stopped paying attention to. The overt need to keep improving upon them wasn't so ever-present the way it was in Pre-CCA UC- stagnation inevitably keeps setting in and thus we have the Crossbone Dust material, where it's gone from stagnation to outright decline and those outer colonies are basically now in a relatively lawless Waring States period.
I like the simple but effective design of the Jamesgun. The main issue it had was, as you said, being rather outdated by the time we first get to see them in action.
it wouldnt do much? n-jammer isnt a power enhancer, so their beam shots would still be the same. all it does is allow nuclear power use, and nuclear power only gives... power. so it wouldnt need to use batteries. all in all, they would perform literaly the same, only with an extented deployment time. in the end the only 3 units that would make use of it are the aegis(for the scylla cannon), the blitz for infinite invisibility and MAYBE the buster for continuous rifle/shotgun shots, which also doesnt seem like that important since that unit battery is much bigger compared to the other machines(also the weapons have their own batteries as well).
I get the feeling that the Javelin was initially proposed as a Jamesgun High Mobility Type, but eventuality became the Javelin due to having many additional components installed into it, thus having a 'Ship of Theseus' situation
I'm just going to say it... I hate how condensed the UC timeline is. There are just too many weird political shifts between UC 105 (the time of Hathaway's Flash) and F91 - they're only 18 years apart! I'm just saying that the major series in the UC would've benefitted from taking place much farther apart. I'm talking like 100 years between F91 and Victory Gundam; not 20.
I'd love to have these released in the HGUC line. The NG kits aren't too bad with some paint. But, honestly, some extra molded detail would be nice. I'd like to make League Millitaire variants
i always felt like it looked TOO streamlined. also not a fan of the weapon loadout. reminded me of that joke MS crossbone tried to make threatening, even though its main(and ONLY) weapon was weaker than a single bullet from a zaku's MG(and im talking zaku 1).
I always thought it interesting that dispite the hate they get how often the Zaku and it's predecessors out last basically every other mobile development. It's seems no matter how mant memes come up over the years there is no stopping that mono eyed giant.
In my school vr game the jamesgun and javelin has a veriont each called the jamesgun m and javelin m these have a unique change on the hands there are a ring and in the game there found under tyrant glen command because surprise surprise there married?
Is the Victory Gundam timeline even cannon??? I mean, the series takes a radically different approach with mobile suit designs and its faction wars that you'd think it's really a Alternate universe timeline. It reminds me of something out of the Gundam AGE universe. I don't like it, not one bit. The only saving grace is Crossbone, story wise but even that is very non UC.
I think if I'd been calling the shots at Sunrise in the early 90s, I'd have made Victory Gundam the first Alternate Universe. It just doesn't feel like a normal continuation of standard UC to me.
late-UC designs and lore always weirded me out in how off the wall and, dare I say, not really "Gundam" much of it felt. Bite-sized mobile suits and Yoshiyuki's fits of murderous depression aside, the design language from F91-onwards just felt...odd to me. Suddenly instead of the iconic monoeyes the spacenoids are using weird robot Darth Vaders, and the Feddies are countering them with mini-Jegans whose textures still aren't loaded. I mean I wouldn't call the later UC designs 'bad' just, they look odd to me. As someone whose favorite era of design is the 0080-Char's Counterattack one.
that's how i feel about every series set after hathaway's flash, they are UC in name only, but do nothing with it. or at worse, they go so blatant with the copy that might as well make it an AU and roll with it.
Why the weird color schemes for the Jamesgun? I can see the desert colors being reasonable, but why purple for Europe, green for India, etc? I can MAYBE see green being used for jungles or something, but as far as I know, there are no purple areas in Europe. Also, why white and red for space? I never understand this for any MS. Wouldn't dark colors be better in space? To help blend in with "darkness of space."
if you want a great idea for the next "dev history", i would point to the MK series. we get so many gundams that ALOT of people dont even think exists. we only see the MK-II, and then suddenly, we see a MK-V. unless you are into the games, or look them up, you would have no idea how the others look like or how diferent they are.
