@@sonofizzyit’s not clever, he’s right, a lot of the things Jamie has done have indeed been in self service but he was 100% on the money here, hell Beth in one of the earlier seasons even admits to one of the CEOs that she knows the better option is to sell part of the ranch and if John wasn’t around she would without hesitation, Jamie is just unlikeable but he’s usually been correct about alot of things legally speaking in this show
@@Mr.KyleRichey The writers made Jamie unlikable. It takes an emotionally intelligent person to see through the writers' manipulation to keep Jamie down and Beth on top because it's trending to make the female lead bossy, rude and formidable in the name of "strong female character".
@@Tomiwa101 Finally someone says it. Beth is a self destructive Borderline Personality and if Jamie were half as bad as the writers are making him, he would have already sent her to the Train Station himself given the chaos she has created in his life.
Yeah but all they care about is that she's sterilized which they think automatically makes her the victim, but that wouldn't have happened if she went to an actual adult and not a teenager
@@captaincold5481 honestly, though the only reason she didn’t go to an adult is because rip would’ve gotten sent to the train station as soon as Jon found out that he was the father.
@@nowsmile790honestly the only two adults she could've gone to is Lloyd cause he's close with Rip or maybe even Lee, think it's been stated that if John had known he would've done something to but i can't remember, than again though he wanted Kayce to have Tate aborted but he refused
@@nowsmile790dude. John knew when Rip killed the ranch hand, as a teen. He knew, but he viewed Rip as a son that wasn't blood. Of all John's kids, only Lee was seen as exceptional. Rip was seen the same way, but not in the same frame of mind. Bottom line is, John knew what Rip was to his daughter, when he killed a guy over sexualizing John's daughter.
Generally it was only John & Beth who treated him like shit. Actually, I don't like either Kevin Costner's character or Kelly Ripa's characters at all. They're both just mean, nasty, self-centered lunatics.
@01Mary02 to me john dutton is the villain who needs to have a change of heart and do something to atone for what he's done. Not die or go to prison, but be redeemed somehow. He kept his family's land but he has done it thru dishonesty and murder. Would 1890s john dutton be proud of the things his descendant has done?
@@Yellowstonefan Nah, she is desperate to please her father because of her guilt of her mother. John even mentions in season 2 I think it was that Beth lost her right to make comments about it because of it all Beth tortured Jamie as a child also, stabbing him with forks when they were children. Long before her teenage pregnancy with one of the bunkhouse lads. Beth was evil as a child also. Nothing but a thug and bully ti whoever won't stand up to her. She also confesses several times throughout the show that she enjoys being cruel and nasty.
No he is not. Kayce is the only logical one. He left and made his own family. Jamie should have done the same. and let his father figure this out on his own.
Right! He is the only logical choice. Kayce is my favorite, but Jamie is much smarter than people think. He has literally done EVERYTHING his dad asked of him.
@BlueGoblin1 Jaime tried to leave and make a career for himself in politics which he was good at but John and Beth wouldn't let him go his own way because that was considered disloyal to the ranch. Jaime knew the ranch wasn't profitable and tried to save it so his family would be taken care of but John refused out of stubbornness and Beth couldn't convince him either so she doubled down to protect John because it all she could do.
The thing is Beth has basically been saying all of this since day one but she hates hearing him say it. Jamie is the only one who can see clearly how badly things are going for the ranch because John is so stubborn.
Right? Jamie understands that John's old school wild west approach to protecting the ranch is doing more harm than good. Whether he likes it or not, things need to change or he won't have a ranch to protect.
@@neonrodenson1480 beth knows it too, but as tough as she seems to act shes a coward when it comes to her dad because she still feels guilty for her mom's death. Its beginning to make sense to me why she hate Jamie and blames him for the sterilization. It's because of that incident with her mon, she feels john blames her and hates her for it even though he didnt quite show it anywhere close to how beth shows her haye for Jamie. John shouldn't blame her for it, and honestly it doesnt seem like he did, because he understood she was a kid and it wasnt intentional. But it didnt matter because beth truly feels her father blames her for it and been trying to make up for it ever since. So she also blames jamie for something he didnt do deliberately to cause pain and he was a kid too much older but still a kid and she just wants jammie to feel the same pain she does.
@ymarrero23 are you serious they were both young Beth should’ve kept her legs closed all the ranch hands hit that. Jamie barely even knew what was happening he was panicking. So instead of his family being a laughing stock and going into town he went to reservation. It’s both there faults honestly. But killing his 3 month old over is insane.
@ymarrero23 lol “you stupid dudes”. I’m all sudden stupid for saying what happened in the show. Let’s think about this the whole show Beth been talking sexual to ranch hands touching them and making out with them she was always the first to apply the pressure. Throughout the show when they showed the past no guys applied or thought about it until she applied it to them. Ofc guys gonna jump at a girl who waving pussy around. That’s why i implied “legs closed”…. Lol. It’s not that deep.
@ymarrero23 you getting too personal now lol. It’s just a show. Let’s stick to the topic. You’re right though it goes both ways but why put all the blame on Jamie. If Beth Is grown enough to sleep and fuck and drink and go to bars to show boobies to men at a young age. She is grown enough to ask questions about her own surgery at the clinic she grown enough to walk in clinic by herself and talk to the doctor about her situation. Who doesn’t ask questions about there own surgery?
@ymarrero23 There's another consideration that the kid was Rip's. This wasn't only about the Dutton reputation, but what could have possibly happened to the young cowboy if John actually knew who the father was. And sure John said that he would have understood but let's be truthful, a man at that time and a daughter at that age getting pregnant from the boy you took in when he was all alone would be sending Rip to the train station. TL:DR Jamie was concerned with the Dutton's reputation, and Beth was trying to protect Rip from John. Both were scared of their own father.
Yeah because he’s selfish, sterilized his sister then blamed her when the first time she asked her big brother to protect her , that she was scared and needed help he took something from her , he tried to help kill the people that call him family , let kaceys son be kidnapped by people and didn’t help but instead used it to run for governor but first take his dads spot as livestock commissioner
@@bigodd8379 no I didn’t. they created the enemy dumbass. Ya he made mistake when she asked for help with the pregnancy but she also put her self in that situation.
Let's not forget how John also basically told Jammie it would be better if Jammie off himself, after that incident with the reporter when Jammie told John how he was thinking about it after he murdered that reporter, and john even acted like he was disgusted that jamie murdered someone. When John and his family have been killing the family's enemies so much so they have a designated spot for the dump. John justifies it by saying those people are enemies that either attack or threatens the family, and the reporter was just that. They treated jammie like shit as always, he decided to bad mouth, but then decided he regretted it and try to make things right, for the duttons basically and they not only refuse to help him with it even though it has to do with the family, they forced him into a corner where he had no choice and he took the only way he knew to save the family, and they just despise him for it. One of the most cringy scene was john saying how hes just disappointed with jammie but still love him and that hes a son to him. I think the reason both John and beth hates jammie so much is because Jamie reminds them what horrible humans they are for the way they treated Jamie.
Jamie is my fav character of this series. I fucking luv him. And if he wants to burn down the Dutton's family, so be it! They (except Kayce) have been treating Jamie like shit since always. I'm all in for Jamie's revenge!!!
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Agreed Jamie gave his sweat and tears for the Dutton ranch, and what does he get just a cup of whiskey from his father his brother Kayce was the only one who said he loved him him and Kayce should be running the ranch
Jamie and Kayce have a nice bond, too bad they don't display it much on here. I lowkey wish Jamie and Beth will somehow make a mends in the second half... but that could also be asking too much lol
I love how he's actually kind of complimenting her as he's insulting her. By repeatedly saying "You KNOW all this!" In a way he's saying "Beth you are smart and should (you do) know better but you are playing Dad's game constantly and fighting an uphill if not insurmountable battle." It's hard to put into words. He is really good here.
And that's why she doesn't say a word even once (which is VERY out of character for her). Because she does know all of this. Because she agrees with him. So nice to see him finally get the better of her for once. Hope it stays that way...
Beth is an egotistical psychopath. A brilliant psychopath perhaps, but pure malice and evil. She always hated Jaime and saw him as undeserving since he's adopted. If she had kids she would have lorded that over Jaime too and her devil spawn would be wreaking havoc on society.
Honestly I cant even be mad at him. Jamie is the only realist who can see that John and Beth are killing the ranch. Yeah Beth had the right to be bitter but she is a complete psychopath with no moral compass or empathy. She lost what little morsel of respect that she had left when she threatened to kill Jamies son without remorse. The most evil person on this show but I have to give credit to the actress it is hard to make such a hatable character.
Not only that. People seem to be disgusted with the Edyphus complex but if they see vodka and cigarettes loving bad case of Electra complex that's winning all the time and bullying everybody they suddenly want to suck the cum of the last guy who fucked her
@@johnnahollister3721 SHE asked him to take her for an abortion and didn't want anyone to find out, if they went to a clinic off the reservation someone would've found out. So how about you hate HER for her part in it
In the full scene, you see Beth actually show fear in the face of Jamie. She twitched, breathed heavily, and hesitated before she declared "war is just beginning" with a not-so-confident tone. I think she knows what's coming. She knows she's bullied and pushed Jamie so much lately and now, he's finally snapped (the first sign of this being when he almost ran her over for threatening Junior; something that shocked even her). Now, he'll want revenge...
hate how she plays victim and the baby part is her get out of jail card.. it’s mad annoying.. she did that to herself getting pregnant that young.. fuck was she doing? second jamie was too young to understand anything at that point. Beth turned jamie against the family it was her always pushing him away, trying to always berate him.. it’s sickening and psychopathic.
Glad to see Jamie finally stand up to Beth. Jamie is not the villain. John and Beth are the villians. Beth is a vile monster who blames everyone else for her behaviour.
Jamie has undoubtedly made poor decisions, but the show trying to turn him into a diabolical villain at every turn has no effect. Pretty much everything he says is on point. Beth villainized him over what happened when they were young, and she has every right to be angry, but Jamie isn't the "greater enemy" they keep talking about. Beth fights for her father, and Jamie fights for the ranch, which is actually what John wants his children to do. Jamie would have worked on the ranch if John had not forced him into politics, and then the second Jamie tried to gain power for the sake of the family, his family turned on him and made him give it up, then blamed him for their problems. He is the monster they made him, and as much as I love watching Beth, I have always rooted for Jamie to prove his worth and get back at his family for the way they treated him.
Of course it’s correct , it wasn’t an assumption he laid down ; it’s facts. Plus the only kind one to Jamie is Kayce. Beth and John have been meentallt mind fucking him. Forcing to defend himself . They’re treTing him like he’s not family
@@Angelaaa1015naw he doesn’t. He’s been infected with the evil of Beth, John isn’t so much evil , more of a necessary evil , but he still for no reason had been treating Jamie like shit
@@Yamas258no I think Jamie’s evil side has been in the background his whole life. For all the coldness Beth shows, Jamie as a young adult agreed to castrate his sister without hesitation and then didn’t tell her until after she woke up. Regardless of your position on abortion, castrating someone without telling them and doing so without hesitation or remorse is evil. Beth was already spiraling down after the death of her mother and how most of the Dutton family blamed her, Jamie’s actions pushed her over the edge. Jamie vs Beth is another one of those “wars with no good guys” where you want neither of them to win.
I applaud Jamie so much of this just your standing up for himself finally to Beth yes I get it he is the a-hole villain and everyone loves Beth but she does need to be knocked off her high horse every now and then.
Beth and John are villans to their core. Beth is evil incarnate and reveals in it like a pig in shit. John has always used and abused Jamie his whole life probably because he wasn't his blood son. Jamie is the only hero of the show.
This is so satisfying. Yeah, Jamie's kind of a slimeball, but Beth is a complete sociopath. He's absolutely right here, the Duttons are going to go down *hard* if they don't change.
Yes but if nothing of that happenned throughout the series then it's unlikely anything will change that much. Beth is some writers fantasy girl that would make up for his failed wuss personality. I mean seriously it really looks like the reason everything about Beth is so over the top, scars, insults, these stupid ominous faces, kindergarten threats and all that looks like a very long and annoying writers masturbation over some over the top idea of a woman because they had like zero of it. The John Dutton characters also doesn't make any sense where he changes his mind every couple of minutes literally
Yes because it was John Dutton that just for the sake "it's mine" killed more or less directly all these people. In a way he was also responsible for his daughters fate because he bullied and intimidated his children all their life so like how surprised the idiot could have been hearing about this after fourty years
I hate how they always tried to paint Jamie as selfish. The man went to law school simply because his father told him it would help protect the ranch. Spent years fighting his fathers battles in court and probably did things that could get him disbarred. And when he wanted to run for Attorney General, John said no and cut him off. Jamie just wanted his fathers approval and I’ve never seen John show any appreciation towards him. Never seen him show the same affection he does for Beth and Casey. Jamie did some messed up things but John could’ve handled him better. The nicest thing he’s ever done for Jamie was stopping him from killing himself😭
It's not as if Jamie wants to take away the ranch from the Duttons, he has a different way of trying to save it. If John or Beth end up killing him just for that, someone that John has raised since infancy and Beth had grown up w/, I think the universe will give them a serious karmic bitch slap.
Exactly. He's not like their enemies Jenkins or ME. He just has a contemporary perspective on how to save the land compared to John's old school wild west approach to protecting the ranch...
@@beesea105 why should he help them??? the family have always been rude kicked him out and have held him back from accomplishing anything at all hell john should get some karma
The fact that the people in this show have a big thing with adoption, like John doesn’t love Jamie bc he’s adopted. And Beth can’t have kids and but apparently adoption isn’t a option.
Give us more moments like this. Once Jamie actually says things to Beth that are just true, she shuts up because she knows how right he is most of the time. Also, Beth has no leverage over Jamie; if she releases the picture of him, it’ll put her, John, and Rip all in the clink or the chair because Jamie is smart and motivated enough to take all of them down with him.
I have to admit that I'm one of the few that was happy when he finally stood up to his tyrant sister. Everybody thinks beth is just so great but I've always seen her as ¾ evil spoiled brat with ¼ of her actually being decent. And blaming Jamie for her abortion when she put him in that situation herself is just hypocritical, she went to Jamie for help when she should've just handled it herself. She forgets that he was a young teen too when she put him in that situation. Honestly i am kind of pulling for Jamie over Beth, she's been nothing but awful to Jamie the entire series
He was forced to kill his own biological father, Beth's child and the reporter all because of the fear of his dad. If he would be a real character he would find a way to ruthlessly kill all of the people that pose a threat to him as aside from his child he had nothing more to lose. But the writers of this show are focusing mostly on fantasies and are clearly lacking a touch with reality sometimes ( seriously with so many people disappearing in the ranch area fbi would run them down with tanks and bulldozers like the Koresh ranch)
Fuck you dude ... jamie was adopted , he had her cleansed which made her unable to bear childern, he is a scheming cunning manipulative SOB ... He seeks approval whenever and wherever needed , doesn't have a spine of his own and always has caused more problems than he has solved. The saddest part here is he feels the greatest threat to John's ranch is John himself 😂...it's his ranch , he can do whatever he wants with it , as a lawyer and as a child all you can do i advise ur father , you can't plot against him . That's the definition of evil .Beth was unethical and ruthless but she stood up for the weak (helped Kayce's wife) , and she gave credit where it was due (have RIP the respect he deserves) and also loves and stays loyal to her father .there is Just no comparing this monster with Beth .
For real. Jamie never wanted to be a lawyer or a politician. He just wanted to be a cowboy and a rancher. A sacrifice he was never appreciated for. Beth is the one who has to go...
@@neonrodenson1480 not just beth. John too, it was so unbelievable when John talked and acted put like he was just disappointed in Jamie but he loves him and that hes a son to him. Total bs. I think people dont mention enough jow john basically told Jamie, it's probably better for Jamie to off himself, after jamie told john, he was thinking about it after he killed the reporter. And then John was even acting like he was so disappointed when him and his family before him ha e been killing the enemies of their family, so much so they have a designated spot to dump the bodies. Jamie's entire life was threatened by that reporter and he was also even just doing that to save John's ass. I'm glad I see so many people in the comment hating on beth more because it always felt a little co fusing the way they try to make beth and john out to be this tough guy who are innately good people who values family and all.but the way they treated Jamie is just the worst.
I'm expecting a twist where he is the one left standing and makes plans alongside Kayce for the ranch's future. But there won't be a next season. Just a sequel series called "2024".
@@neonrodenson1480that’s what I’m hoping for as well those 2 or at least kayce left to look after Jamie’s son if anything may happen to him or Jamie takes down the ranch and puts John, Beth and rip behind bars and since Jamie would be dead either way he gets away with it and it can safely get passed on to Tate and Jamie’s son like the promise he made.
Nah I don’t want the Duttons to lose the ranch I just want to make John and Beth pay, I love everyone else though. I kinda like Jamie’s whole plan of trying to save the ranch by impeach John Dutton
I can't wait until Jamie gets his full karma he so has coming to him for all he's did to them and I pray his karma is rip and rip kills his sorry pos ass
If she gets her way and kills Jamie, Kayce will never forgive her or John. He’ll turn his back on them forever. There’s no scenario I see where Kayce is ok with them taking Jamie to the train station.
Who says that he would be taken to bthe train station? Is that the only place to die? And don't be shocked if John would not with inner gratitude thank RIp for making Jamie gone. As for Cacy, if he wishes to leave the ranch and live with the Native Americans, John will reluctantly let him go. John is really closer to RIP, although he had RIP fake defeat to Cacy to protect Cacy's legacy. Cacy has been threatening to "go Native" for a long time.
In the other half i hope Jamie press charges on Beths stunt at his house and if John says yes to killing his son then the ranch he should die too because these 2 Duttons have abused Jamie too long
So happy to see Jamie finally make Beth shut up. That woman is an insufferable witch. Jamie was messed up by John.. forces him to take a career he didnt want then doesn’t respect him for it. Jamie needs to get a W.
Seriously man , I hate Beth so much , she’s pathetically always acting like a psycho that want to take Jamie’s babie and ruin his life . The way she says it , I just want shut her up . All dramatic
No, throughout this series, he has been one of the only ones trying to save the ranch by adapting to the times. But his family sabotages him at every turn. As he say he wants to monetize the ranch to save it rather than let it burn out holding to a dying industry like traditional cattle farming. An example of how this could have been done earlier in the series. The local tribe wanted to build a casino/hotel earlier in the series and were targeting the ranch for additional land to do so. The Duttons fought this. WHat if instead they had instead of selling the land, leased it to the tribe? They would still own the land but would generate a profit from the rent the tribe would have to pay over the long term.
The difference between Beth and Jaime is he is loyal to the family whilst Beth is only loyal to her Father, she only watches out for Kayce, Monica and Tate because they are important to him personally. Jaime however despite everything those two have put him through is still loyal to the family as a whole and fighting to save the ranch in some capacity so a slice go to Tates kids as well as his own.
Agreed. I never saw selfishness from Jamie. Shoot, he didn't even wanna be a lawyer in the first place. John made him do it. And I suspect that while Beth loves her Dad, the only reason she's agreeing with him on everything is because she knows he is going to run the ranch into the ground. Once that happens and John dies, she'll try to sell it all, as she's made it clear more than once that she hates the Yellowstone. Jamie, however, loves the ranch and the cowboy life. He wants to save it and may very well be the only one who can. Really hoping he's the one left standing when this Dutton Civil War ends. Be cool to see him work with his brother Kayce to secure a great future for their sons and combat Matt Mcconahay's character on 2024...
@@jonathanmora8208yes, he does. And unlike Beth, he’ll defy John to do it. IMO, loyalty doesn’t mean sitting back and letting someone you love destroy themselves. Sometimes the best thing you can do is step in and stop them.
Jamie worked his entire life doing what his Dad wanted and helping the family and any time he eats anything for himself he is called selfish! The first time Janie gets upset (because John takes his dream from him) John beats the shit out of Jamie!
The ONLY acceptable ending for this show in my mind is each and every guilty member of the Dutton family goes to prison. John, Rip, etc. All of em. Murderers and cowards.
I want more scenes with Jamie and Kayce. The remind me of Jaime and Tyrion. Wait, are all brothers named Jaime just loving brothers that have a strong bond with their brothers? That’s kinda neat.
@@holohuloloI personally hope it will be passed to his and kayce kid Tate as he promised and if anything happens to Jamie either from Beth,John or rip kayce turns his back on them he loves Jamie as a true brother.
I think the greatest threat to the Ranch is Beth. She is always starting some shit knowing that RIP will come rescue her. She pushed Jaime to do what he did. He may have let it all play out naturally if it wasn’t for her toxic spoiled ass lol.
I think she's the greatest threat to the family (as Jamie said in Season 1). She has actually told John alot of the same things Jamie told him, but he never listened to her any more than he did Jamie. But you are right about her pushing him past the limit. Now, for once, she'll be facing the consequences...
Rip is a s1mp for beth, Beth disrespected him kissing & smashing other grown men making him jealous and now look RIP married her. She won't even tell him about the abortion when they were teenagers.
I actually like Jamie. I feel sorry for him as I do all of the Dutton children-well, not Beth’s crazy ass. John Dutton is a cold bastard. He raised, manipulated, and groomed each of them to be what HE needed. Kayce is the baby/favorite. Jamie is the lawyer/yes man. Beth is the attack dog. Rip is the door mat. John is the problem here. As much as he does love them-he loves the ranch more and will sacrifice any of their happiness for he own selfish reasons. It’s very twisted. Beth’s treatment of Jamie is disgusting over something he did when they were both teens. Telling him to go kill himself was vile. Wes is correct. Jamie does need to kill Beth by the end of the series. Then Rip will kill Jamie and Kayce will kill Rip. Jamie has saved their bacon so many times. They need to give him way more respect for keeping them out of prison and trying to keep the ranch profitable and in the family.
Right? John is literally horrible at everything but ranching. He's a terrible father, an even worse businessman, and an abysmal politician. A man like him has no business with kids or that kind of power. I really hope Jamie's the one left standing in the end; posthumously or otherwise. He deserves the ranch after all he's done for it and the family and is clearly the only one with the mindset it takes to preserve it in our progressively modernizing society...
@@neonrodenson1480he was a powerhouse of a politician until recently. He's had sway with Montana elites for decades. Only recently with the switch from the older generation, to the younger generation, like the mayor does his power start to shrink. People stopped hiding the bad shit he was doing.
She told Jamie earlier, the more he becomes what his father wants him to be, the more John will hate him for it. Unfortunately for Beth, Jamie believes her.
Sure did. Just going by her behavior as far as Carter between these last couple of seasons tells you exactly what kind of mother she would have been. It's a very scary thought...
@@nave712 sometimes the best thing to happen is not the right thing, but the bad thing that is more convenient. Even when that means living the rest of.your life thinking about it
How does Beth not know where the train station is or what the train station is since she went there to take a picture of Jamie, throwing his dead father over the cliff into the train station!
I believe Kacey is the elephant in the room everyone's trying to ignore. He loves Jamie and knows Beth has been manipulating him and turning their father against him. If Beth hurts Jamie kacey will have no mercy on her or their father.
@@kjiggidy5719 Kayce is also a father. If he gives Jamie a chance to explain his side, he would understand protecting his child from a threat of murder.
He needs a Blue Heeler. Seriously, the entire series needs more herding dogs cuz I v'e never been on a beef operartion that wasn't swarming with them. Its a little too Rexall without em
Did she? Or did she just stir something that was already there? Jamie's been building like a volcano for a long time. This impeachment business is him erupting...
Her lack of compassion for the position she put him in as they were both so young...and her lack of accountability for her own actions that got her pregnant to begin with (choices).... show what a truly self loathing human she is!
The writers just let her abuse her powers and anyone that stands up to her bullshit in the name of "a stong modern female character" its plays into radical feminism and just have a bad look on women overall. For me its the opposite of strong, because she have no self control and the emotional intelligence or capabilities to deal with issues past and present. This is not very good for the show and it's shows a lack of irresponsible logic by the writer's room.
Yeah he's fucked up in the head but honestly with that family...either you come out fucked up but loyal or come out fucked up and you dislike the family..then everybody hates you cause you don't "support" the family.
@@Ben_not_10 Don't see how he created her. Beth admitted to Monica that she was a horrible person long before the incident at the clinic. Only thing that would've been different had that never happened would be her relationship with Jamie.
@@neonrodenson1480 I admittedly wrote that comment before getting access to season 5. I still don’t think Jamie truly “regrets” having Beth undergone the hysterectomy without telling her. However, I will say with the way Beth has been written in season 5 I’m less willing to defend her actions. Beth seems even more hellbent on destroying Jamie and causing him harm than before. I mean she literally threatened to kill his son and then walks away and is shocked he actually considered running her over. Like seriously, the guy killed a reporter in a fit of rage over the threat of being exposed in the press, how did she think he was going to react a threat to his child. Jamie has become Johns opposite. John thinks the only way to save the ranch is just keep the status quo and if he has to sell it so be it. Jamie thinks the only way to save the ranch is to lease it off bit by bit. Beth is desperately trying to convince John to find other ways to monetize the ranch and he keeps bucking her at every turn, Jamie also refuses to see any other opportunities to financially save the ranch and the war between the two I think will end up with both of them dead. Especially considering Kevin Costner hasn’t officially agreed to return for a season 6 giving me the belief this season will end with both john and Jamie being out of the picture permanently.
@@Ben_not_10 Yep. Jamie's been telling John since Season 1 that his old school wild west approach to protecting the ranch is doing more harm than good, but he refuses to listen. Jamie understands that the only way the ranch can survive is through a steady influx of income, like the airport. Something's gotta give...
@@Ben_not_10 Why don't you think Jamie doesn't regret his poor decision WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER?! He clearly stated it was the worst decision of his life, the "Beth" went ahead to threaten his son's life.
Ye love the show but this scene accidentally left a plot hole. When Beth took that pic of him, she was already there waiting but now she didn't know anything about it? Considering ever it's located i can firmly believe he would've see a car following
I’m in a series where I have generational property, I would do anything to save it for “My Father” it’s something he is proud of having, so I can see Beth’s side of this situation, Jamie just wants power I don’t agree with John if he adopted him he is no different than Beth Lee or Kacie for any reason
@@johnbarrystaton77 Jamie isn’t loyal to them because they aren’t loyal to him. If only the father loved him maybe he’d have a powerful ally. Beth’s power stems from being the favorite, despite being monstrous and vile. I think she is evil. Actually I think they all are.
This confused me because in the season prior to this, Beth is at the “train station” when Jamie goes to dump his fathers body. She waited there for him and took a photo as collateral. So why is Beth shocked and then goes to her father asking about this place she claims to know nothing about?
bc she thought that was just a random place where Jamie was dumping the body. She didn’t know that’s where her whole family disposed there murders and stuff
I swear the only sane people in that show is Jamie, kayce and rip. Beth doesnt care about the ranch never will and John will literally kill the ranch sooner than later and this whole beth hate for jamie is so over kill. It all could have been avoided on so many levels its partly her and rips fault for letting teenage harmones get the best of them and partly jamies fault but he was trying to protect the family name and went about everything the wrong way. But you know who is really at fault John Dutton that man has really done thing for his kids but grow and use them as weapons for his personal use. If your kids are to scared to come to you with theyre problems you honestly failed as a parent. Did snyone forget what he said to kayce about tate? He wanted tate aborted thats why kayce never came around id do the same thing. John is not a good person, he isnt the devil but he is damn close
