Jamie O'Hara & Jermaine Pennant CLASH over who was to BLAME For England's Euro 2024 Final loss! 🔥 

spot on.'we have world class players'..'we have players who can walk into any squad'..'There is no one from the other side who could get into ours'...Right..if De Jung had played against England he would have struggled to get into that midfield...?

I really dont agree with this. Our players lack football intelligence and tactical awareness. Which continental teams favour over what we do in England.

@@zinedinezidane4771 I think you're right. It's just not their thing. We just don't associate English football with tactical awareness and futbol intelligence. But see that Mainoo boy🔥😭if you saw him for the first time at club football, you wouldn't say he's English. Palmer too🔥

@@tokolloseleka8785 which is crazy. Who wouldn't want intelligence in a footballer or any role in life 😂 Agree, Palmer and Mainoo look quality and have good intelligence hopefully they continue to develop this way and are appreciated in the national team, because Scholes and Carrick wasn't.. crazy again lool

Exactly right

How many world cups have belguim won you idiot

Well said well bloody said for real

The stat about Spanish teams winning the last 27 major trophies a Spanish team was involved in is crazy.

Thw difference with Belgium is that its only really been the last 8 years they had a quality team which tbh has been on the decline for 4 or 5 years with players aging. England have always been seen as a brilliant team with world class players

@tbrauneh yeah im saying that, i think english players have been overrated for as long as i have watchrd football. Im just saying the difference is Belgium never have golden generations whereas every generation of england bes built up to a golden generation but never come close to the real best teams

Who can forget Archie Gemmill 's goal and Jim Baxter winning the World Cup in 1967. True immortals.

​@@iainrae6159😂😂👌

What did Scotland do other than be the first team to be sent home?

Love this 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

Edward312: we beat Spain a few months ago. How did England do against Spain? Oh . . .

Jose Mourihno wins this final with this English squad . Lets not even debate it.

​@@ericburckson727Mourinho would have better odds with Spain though.

Average players DONT get into any team in the world mate. Jude Bellingham gets into any team in the world (he’s already at Real Madrid), an in form Harry Kane gets into any team in the world, so does Saka and so does Foden (when playing his his correct position). So, this also means that those players are world class, fact. Apology accepted👍

Williams better than Foden (as a left winger). Saka is perhaps slightly better than Yamal. Current injured Kane is not better than Morata as weird as that sounds. Rodri and Ruiz are both better than Rice and Mainoo. Carvajal is better than Walker. Laporte equal to Stones. Those replying "England are better, Mourinho would've won etc." No the Spanish players are technically better and they proved it by easily dominating the ball and creating more chances. Those individual players like Bellingham, Foden and Kane had good "goalscoring" seasons. That's not the same as being individually better for your positions than other players

It’s somewhere in between, they aren’t average players.

Accept the highest performing players last season, Foden, Palmer, Saka, Watkins are all English and 7 out of the 10 of the highest goal scorers of all the time are English, so all the best players in the Premier League are not foreign. It's clearing a coaching issue at intentional level, especially under Southgate who is a P.E teacher. English players play better for their clubs because they are in a more settled system and know their roles. Even in the Premier League it can take a team a month to settle and find form, but at international tournaments they only have a few games.

@@Unpopular_Truth You put Southgate in at man city and they won't even get top 6

@@Unpopular_Truth stop waffling last time i checked the best players of all time aren't english

@@SugarRayValentine We're talking about the best players in the Premier League you clown.

@@Unpopular_Truth So why Spanish players manage that transition and English ones do not?

As a neutral spain euro team wasn't better than the english. They had a way of playing and they stuck with it. The endligh team has no identity and that's the problem.

Yeah cheers for that roger

Someone picking the most 'tedious' games isn't a fact, it's a matter of opinion. I my opinion England weren't great.

They did not do it because they don’t fear the manager, you imagine these players press for 5 min and then stop under Klopp or Pep or even Arteta ? The fear is getting taken off and the players in the England team did not worry about that

Unai Simón is awful

On Walker please note he was named in the Uefa team of the tournament, has won everything there is to win at club level and has been called by Vini Jr and Neymar as the best player they have faced in that position. Difficult to argue objectively against that?

Not when our other options are far less talented and experienced

@@StringerBellz bro😭😹😹

@@tokolloseleka8785 😂 surely we deserve the title just for that

He actually said that you have better players

This is such a stupid comment. Literally ONLY Spain won more euros trophy’s than our current group of players, I don’t think Ohara is saying England have always had the best squad, he’s saying right now the squad England have is player for player better than any other squad, no other nation has a front 6 of individual best players at their clubs, this means nothing in the grand scheme of things because we don’t have a tactically astute manager to put these players into a structure and style of play that allows them to be better than the other nations as teams

Fun fact: Before the final, England had scored 7 conceded 4 in 6 games - just like 2004 Greece

​@@jordanbrooks4834 There isn't any good English manager. There never was and there NEVER will be !! Before all these better technical foreign managers/coaches came to the Premiership, who were the managers winning all the trophies ? Ferguson, Dalglish, Graham. They're all Scottish FFS !! 😅😂❤❤

😂😂

Scottish, Irish or Welsh?

Then why are they the most expensive team then?

@@JasonSimon-m2nare you ten years old?

@@JasonSimon-m2n because they all overrated and overpriced, especially in England. For example Declan Rice cost 100M. He just about looked like a 20M player during the whole tournament. Hope that helps.

@@JasonSimon-m2n expensive doesnt equate to the best players. Rashford is one of the highest earners in England and is not the best player lol

England aren’t amazing but tbf Brazil stink right now. They’re actually kinda similar imo

Spot on clapping 👏

Not just Rodri, no Pedri or Gavi either in the final yet you couldn’t tell it was a completely new midfield in the second half. Imagine if England lost their three starters in midfield for the final.

While England bring on Palmer who fair enough played good but take off Mainoo who was the only player breaking up Spains play, not a like for like,then what happened massive gaps appeared between the defence and midfield which Spain exploited for the rest of the game

Or maybe they just play better in a well coached settled system. They wouldn't perform week in week out and get so many goals and assists for their clubs if they were average players.

Watch another sport

Silly comment

@@void0350 What did he do then numbnuts?

@@footballsoccerx2021 What did he do then numbnuts?

Wud u have gotten there If he doesn't score the overhead kick ?

The funny thing about Spain this tournament they were not really interested in having the most possession, but had to have it cos England could not hold the ball under pressure !

Jamie did nothing in football career

That's why Jamie is there for. 👌

dream on!

Exactly what I have been saying

English fans to blame for not supporting the leader of their team.

@andymcnab2.0 Fair comment - even if people don’t agree on a technical ability and tactical basis, your point would be true because the players you mention would have been so much fresher and would have played to a high intensity in the final England lacked intensity!

Ivan Toney

Spain, Germany, France, Portugal, Cape Flats kids from Cape Town.

With curry .

Eat something else . Large variety of food available now mate

Spot on comment there lad 😅​@@johnkeohane4239

For sure not - stupid comment

Try peshwari naan

Cole carried Chelsea way more than Bellingham did! Y’all just love bring Bellinghams name up in every conversation… he’s not spectacular, he has great physique, a pompous attitude and scored goals. He’s a PRs dream.

@dagogogreene9155 OK, 1 player you have named who didn't even start. That was my point that no one is undroppable. And I used jude as an example because of the team he plays for real Madrid who are stacked with world beaters and even with out jude they still function they have other players who have been clutch this season such as vini and carvajal and most of them are not English but won't get credit they deserve due to the English media bias an example is carvajal vs walker one of the most decorated rb in the game won't get the praise in comparison to a speed merchants

@@asaifali99 Your point about Walker is very tenuous. He was named in the Uefa team of the tournament, like Caravajal has had a very successful club career and is someone who has been named by the likes of Vini Jr and Neymar as the best player they have faced in that position. None of this can be put down to english media bias now can it?

@@asaifali99 Your point about Walker is very tenuous. He was named in the Uefa team of the tournament, like Caravajal has had a very successful club career and is someone who has been named by the likes of Vini Jr and Neymar as the best player they have faced in that position. None of this can be put down to english media bias now can it?

He was injured until the last Poland match. Then they played him as soon as he was fit.

Because he’s “England’s priceless Gem!”

Well said well bloody said for real

Ok, then so should the other three he’s sharing it with then. I don’t understand your point🤷🏼‍♂️

Couldn’t agree more, thinking of Van Basten, Bergkamp, Rumenigge, Platini, and fifty other guys of this ilk who produced something special. Now it’s all about systems etc. It’s a different game.

From day one, I always said he was a f numpty. I've been proven f right.

@@chrismiller6317 Hang on mate.. that's wrong..

I agree mate. Good riddance. Did not have a scooby. Which midfielder did he play which could make that pass to split a defense (starter)? Playing both Bellingham and Foden was ridiculous, not to mention the decision to keep playing Kane unfit. Blows my f mind GS's decision - making. Seriously could understand a chimp at the zoo better than GS's mind.

You could side with Southgate but think his answer to win was bring on Gallagher. Honestly you must sit on the sideline and look into space think what would great manager do. Klopp, Clough or anyone. Day of Destiny Gareth. "I summon you Gallagher" Ah man. There is Trent and Gordon - rightwing to left

​@@Realist560😂😂 Ah man. Southgate needs sacking for ages. As if any sane Premierleague fan want him at their club. You know that is an obvious thing.

The ones we have are coached by foreign managers and play in teams full of foreigners. Thats why the PL is as successful as it is.

Sven was a cheque book manager for Lazio who never won the Italian League, at that time it was a stupid appointment

No mate, pressing is one of the most basic attributes of any footballer, pressing just means pushing up on our opponents and is NOT a skill that needs to be learnt. Either Southgate’s tactics dictated how we played OR the players were just too cagey. To say this needs to be “learnt” at youth level is ridiculous, it’s basic. Even an average Sunday League pub footballer knows how to press (push up). If your post was serious and you really think this needs to be taught then we are either in more trouble than we thought OR you know zero about the game of football🤣🤣

I think they need to develop natural intelligence 😂

Learning to press?? Geez just work on your bloody fitness lol

I disagree and I will point you to the below list of objective facts rather than just simply providing my opinion. Kane-Top goal scorer in Bundesliga Foden - Voted Prem best player Bellingham - voted la liga best player In terms of goals scored in the most recent season across all comps, the following players all scored 20 goals or more: Kane, Foden, Bellingham, Palmer, Watkins, Bowen, Saka Now please show me another national team that can boast that? How many did Yamal and Williams score last season? You can not deny that the above mentioned players all had exceptional club seasons coming into this tournament, otherwise you are just ignoring facts. Before you mention the EPL is overhyped, please note it is the no.1 ranked league in Europe by Uefa, it is not a farmer league. Plus you had the likes of Kane and Bellingham doing very well in overseas leagues. Clearly the English squad, certainly from attacking perspective has an embarrassment of riches when it comes to form players yet they didn't score more than 2 goals in any game. I think its Gareth and the coaching staff who have to take responsibility here for not extracting the best out of the squads strengths here.

@@matthewtovey9771Good points…They don’t unfortunately play as a team…And We are weak mentally…Historically…It can change….Garath did ok….,The culture has improved…Next manager needs to build a team…not just play star players..👍

Trent is an overrated passer. English have not one good passer, i honestly think Saka is Englands best passer and that says it all.

@void0350 Trent has highest all time assists for a defender in PL history - you can’t achieve that without being a great passer. Stop spouting nonsense

Is he playing well today?

Jesus wept🤣. Allerdyce would have been even worse. The comments here are hilarious🤣🤣🤣

Please phone Talksport with this point

Jesus🤣🤣

Your absolutely right Spain's midfield was better than England's midfield England were lucky they didn't lose the final by a bigger margin every time in the second half when Spain attacked England they look like we're gonna score I thought England were lucky to get to the final I think Gareth Southgate took England has far he can take them he needs to go now England have the potential to win tournaments they got some good youngsters and some experience players but Gareth southgate can not take them over the line England need a new manager that can be more attacking England players don't seem to get as a team

@iainrae6159 Just as well a 4th goal was smashed in then isn’t it?!