Um, Blackbeard got 1 shot by Magellan and Bitch Slapped by Beppo because he is just an opportunistic poser He gets credited with the death of Whitebeard BUT Whitebeard's life was flashing before his eyes before they even reached Marineford and he was spacing out cause he was on his "deathbed" with hi Haki and Devilfruit power being iffy as he was dying even before he started tanking damage Only a fool wouldnt realize he was there in front of the World to go out like Roger In Declaring the Onepiece,is Real to reinvigorate the Pirate Age........and,Sengoku fell for it which is when Sengoku yelled "YOU BASTARD" at,him🌈⭐
To be fair i dont agree. Big mom lost to law and kid while both had zero energy left. The only way that big moms abilities are worth anything is if you are scared of her and im a flying goat if king is afriad of her. On the same note the only way to hurt king is to be fast enough and have enough haki power which big mom sucks at both things while also having below shit iq and battle iq to figur out how to handle kings invincibility
@@RODFLOP she was nerfed in that for some reason she didn't use conq haki vs them and also she faced both kid and law at normal strength. She unlike Kaido didn't almost lose in strength. She lost to a volcano. If onigashima wasn't floating then kid and law were dead.
@@basillah7650That's ... the entire point of the video and why Liam is presenting the list and criticizing it every step of the way... Maybe you should start watching the videos you want to comment on?
I don’t know, this list is either a troll prank from the japanese or they are not that much better at scaling power either. Like, how is Rocks D Xebec at number 19? And Zoro at number 8??? Even King, Dragon (who we don’t even know what he can do???), King, Shiki and Fujitora are above Rocks?
@midwestrebel2 yes actually. Being from japan doesnt mean anything. You dont even have to be a power scaler to know that most of this list is insane and goes against basic logic, for example Look at how high raleigh is and yet blackbeard isnt even on the list when raleigh says he doesnt think he can beat BB. That logically makes 0 sense
@@midwestrebel2 how would they be more entitled to making a list than we are, we are all reading the same story and every list made by anyone but oda is completely pointless. its like me as a belgian making a fking waffle tierlist and saying an american cant make a waffle tierlist, it's ridiculous. especially when it comes to the strength of fictional pirates that are entirely made up by one man.
@@AstroSully Whitebeard was still his adversary and it's not like they started off as friends. Whitebeard has never been considered his ally. Not to mention Whitebeard being in Rocks earlier which means he's definitely been an enemy of Rogers
Shiki being so low shows how bad some people are at power scaling. A guy who was capable of fighting Roger and lasting a long time against Garp and Sengoku who used to fight Roger and Whitebeard regularly definitely speaks to him being incredibly strong.
Bro is that what bothers you that you wrote a paragraph..🫡..bro ROCKS D XEBEC had 3 emperors working UNDER him and took both garp and Roger to defeat him
Bro stop smoking, rocks was literally said to be Roger's strongest rival. What's wrong with you man? You should have paid more attention to sengoku stating facts. And you think it was just Roger and garp vs the entire rocks crew? Lol what about the entire navy, the holy knights and Roger pirates? Were they all cheering by the bay? Stop smoking dummy@@JoeGoldBergEnthusiast
Kizaru didn't "tie" with Luffy by being as strong or stronger, they tied via Kizaru's extreme mobility allowing him to avoid Luffy until his gear 5 timer ran out. When Luffy actually landed a solid hit on him, it laid Kizaru out flat for several chapters. So Kizaru being several spots below Luffy makes perfect sense, he's not as strong as Luffy and we saw that clearly. He was just tricky to deal with
I gave up at rocks bro that caught me so off guard like what dude had all the four emperor's listening to his orders I can't even imagine how broken his conquerors haki was
Nah, it was obvious that it was an alliance where no one was officially the captain, at least that was the case with Whitebeard as you read in the flashback
Whitebeard is stated to be the only person (of those known, which would obviously exclude characters such as Joyboy and Imu) to be Roger’s sole and only equal, in the manga. It is also stated in Databook Yellow that Whitebeard is the strongest pirate to ever challenge Roger for supremacy, which means he’s even stronger than Xebec, and since they’re equals, so is Roger. Thing is, Whitebeard reached his prime 2 years after God Valley, and Roger right before contracting an incurable disease.
@@fultheim3580 I believe in an sbs Oda said Roger, WB, and Shiki are all equal, so there's no way Xebec was the captain of those 2, he could've been easily the captain of Kaido as he was very young and far rom his prime, not sure about BM though
@@Hatemalalmaei Not true, it was stated in a magazine and a one shot for the film, in which it was exemplified several times in both sources that it’s referring to infamy and notoriety. Shiki was known according to the narrator for his massive fleet, Shiki accredits his strength in the beginning of the Edd War (himself) to his massive fleet. Shiki submits to Whitebeard upon their meeting, and Whitebeard feels casual about being able to dispose of him if he felt like it. Sengoku claims Roger would just beat Shiki in a fight (Chapter 0) and then escape his fleet. Shiki claims Roger could beat and escape the entire Navy, yet Shiki can’t beat just Sengoku and Garp. Xebec was their captain, he was the captain of the Rocks pirates, was generally strong and at least comparable to figures such as Shanks and Oden. But Whitebeard is literally stated even superior than Rocks indirectly through secondary and primary source material.
@@fultheim3580 bro Rodger and Garp had to combine to beat rocks 😭 the strongest admiral and pirate in history n u think someone who was in his ship was stronger
Shiryu was literally shaking in fear from Magelan and he's the only reason Shiryu didn't kill everyone in Impel down and he said it himself that no one should go against Magelan and he was so happy to flee out of Impel down with Blackbeard to avoid having to face him 😂
@@Par-BlindspotCause she no diffrd queen. Had to be taken care of first not Jaido unless they'd lose. Survived Laws and Kids full onslaught only lost cause of bombs
What? Big mom lost to Kid and Law what did you watch? She got sent into a Volcano. Sanji was also able to beat queen, since when is Queen a strong Combatant? They split up the fight on the Rooftop no one had to take care of her first. Big Mom may be strong but she is not a Strong Combatant. @@jozillaarevalo1747
We have never seen his face, tho, that might play a role in this. Although, of course, we have never seen that much of Roger's powers, and he's (probably deservedly) in first, so, yeah, Rocks should be much higher by any standard
@@gabrielgoes0 what does face have to do with power scaling? Imu is the head of the WG and we haven't seen his/her face. The fact that Rocks was the captain (even if not respected) of WB,BM, and Kaido is an insane feat. Sengoku even explicitly said that Rocks was Roger's biggest rival before WB left rocks. So, the only way Rocks isn't in the top 5 strongest OAT, is if he was someone like Buggy who luckily managed to form a strong organisation like cross guild recruiting Mihawk and crocodile while he himself was weak.
@@Alex-bs5sd dude, I'm agreeing with you, chill. I said that people can't relate properly to him because we don't know him at all and that's probably why they didn't VOTE him higher
Big Mom angry: Jimbei refusing to tremble in the presence of a mere emperor. Nami Angry: Jimbei trembling in the presence of the Emperor he serves under as he sees an angry navigator
In my opinion Kuzan would be able to win against Sakazuki, if his DF wasn't at a clear disadvantage. I think that the fact he fought for 10 days actually shows how crazy strong he is.
I think caesar helped akainu he was on the island and said how he liked Akainu more since akainu liked the weapons he made secretly helped him win. aojiki clearly nerfed now with his injuries.
I think it has to do with the fact that Sakazuki had the terrain advantage. Kuzan would have won a sea battle. (The starting point would have been a marine vessel for both)
Why do people always say that kuzan had a disadvantage when it come to his fruit against sakazuki ? Magma melt ice Ice freeze magma Was it stated in the manga somewhere and i missed it ?
@@moyosorealuko4490 Magma lose heat at the contact of water in the real world ! In one piece we saw whitebeard extinguish sakazuki magma ball by blowing it out with his mouth. We also saw sakazuki magma droplet harden when it feel on kuzan ice at marinford ! :)
It's amazing that most of the powerful characters have never been overtaken by someone else since their introduction years ago. Really shows how Oda manages to (mostly) avoid powercreep.
I think one thing to keep in mind with Kaido's 'top five' is that its from his perspective over time. He stated that he kept fighting people that the world expected him to lose against and won instead, or something to that effect and I feel like if that's his perspective on his own wins then how would he consider his losses? He's definitely grown stronger since his youth and so some of those individuals, as they were when they fought him then, might not stack up to him now. At the top tiers of One Piece I think Oda is trying to base the fight punching dynamic less on 'my number is bigger than yours' and more of a... I dunno, Smogon competitive Pokemon tiers thing? Like, Kaido is super strong and durable but Luffy's ridiculous power and speed was able to perform just the right amount of goofy speedy punch fighting to beat him. But Kizaru is faster than Luffy and so had an easier time fighting Luffy then Kaido would have and would likely struggle way, way more with Kaido himself. He's stated to be the 'Strongest Creature' and outside of a handful of very, very select characters I don't see him ever losing that spot at this point in the story. There might be people stronger than him, like maybe Im or whatever but I don't think there are many STRONGER than him, if you get what I mean. I dunno, this list was hilarious at any rate. Lol.
I really like this perspective, it ties back into the themes we saw with Enel where the right opponent would have a far easier time in a fight than someone of equitable power but differing skillset.
Yeah that top 5 gets missinterpreted as "these top 5 beat my ass, im infinitely weaker than them😭" when he said there's only a few people that can match me in a fight, and he still called himself the strongest in the present, but he doesnt know about Imu so he probably the actual strongest in the world rn. Also obviously Oda couldnt clutter the panel, putting like 10 characters behind luffy😂like Garp, Big Mom, Mihawk, etc. weren't there and we know they're comparable.
I don't blame people that much because Wano took a very long time and Whole Cake was before that but Luffy vs Katakuri and Luffy vs Kaido was the peak of the manga being about power/haki scaling. Luffy got stronger in these fights and a lot of the emphasis was him training from being outclassed to being able to fight them on a relatively even level. However, I think it's debatable whether Luffy ever became "stronger" than Kaido but Luffy reached his 'peak' and I'm pretty sure the story from now on isn't about Luffy getting even stronger but just mastering his peak form. Luffy is now Admiral/Yonko level but that doesn't mean he'll easily beat everyone else who is also that level or even that he won't ever struggle against people beneath that level. (After all how many people stronger than Luffy have had a hell of a time dealing with him?)
Pretty sure what Sengoku said is that Garp's team and the Roger Pirates teamed up to take down the Rocks Pirates. iirc, nothing was ever mentioned about who took down Xebec himself. When you take into consideration the monsters on the Rocks crew, it's honestly not surprising that they had to team up to take them down, no matter how strong Rocks was (Though he was almost definitely around prime Roger/Garp at the very least)
Rocks pirates also had Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom and Shiki. We don't know the specifics of what exactly happened during the incident. Sure, it could have been a 2v1 but it also could have been as extreme as a 2v4. The God Knights were also fighting, and I think Whitebeard was dealing with them as it was hinted that Figarland was the one to scar Whitebeard.
1. Rocks 2. Roger (Prime) 3. Whitebeard (Prime) 4. Garp (Prime) 5. Sengoku (Prime) 6. Dragon 7. Mihawk 8. Shanks 9. Rayleigh (Prime) 10. Blackbeard 11. Akainu 12. Kaido 13. Luffy 14. Big Mom 15. Aokiji 16. Kizaru 17. Oden 18. Fujitora 19. Greenbull 20. Ben beckman Edit: I made some ranges. Think of them as anyone within these ranges fighting someone else within these ranges could be an extreme diff fight. So... Within same range = Extreme diff 1 range difference = Very High diff 2 range difference = High diff 3 range difference = Mid diff Example: Prime Garp mid diffs Oden [17-20] [10-16] [6-9] [1-5]
Decent list but I am missing Imo, Royal guards and Gorosai. The thing in One Piece is that we have so many still featless characters so the list can be valid but can be totally of to.
The third largest omisión in my opinion is Magellan, his fruit is pretty much impenetrable, it one hits and has absurd mobility and range, he pretty much kept the largest prison in check from the toilet by himself
@@SarcasticBeingYes He's weak but okay lol. If he is stronger or equal to the strongest Impel down member then he's equal or just about stronger than Doffy meaning he's getting beat by Gear 4 in no more than 3 punches lmao.
@@kilzfordays strongest in impel down can mean anything if the best contender is blackbeard an he gets bodied. Also where tf did doffy come from? The only reason doffy escaped was cuz the other egyptian guy was the new warden and magellan quit.
Kaidou might be more alive than dead at this point. Perhaps Oda changed his mind on what he was going to do, but I feel like if he wanted Kaidou to die, he would've used Momo differently. The dragon fruit floating out there is just so weird to think about.
I think the fact the Blackbeard picks his battles and like to tank attacks, make people think he is weak. He defeated Ace before he got the quack fruit, and hia crew spankes the remaining white beards pirates so bad, they all retired. Shanks saying he should not be under estimated is enough sign he is strong af. We don't have a notable scar from anyone else on Shanks. It's crazy that King is even on this list, and Big Mom and Bb aren't. 2 of them are really underrated.
The fact he can tank the attacks shows he is not weak he FEELS double the pain due to his devil fruit so acts hurt when he can just get back and keep attacking he is getting better at handling pain than pretime skip.
@@Par-BlindspotOden was able to control enma right off the bat and tanked a divine departure from Roger. Stop with the biased pov. Zoro being above kaido already makes this list a joke💀 along with the fact fact rocks being so low
You don't seem to be able to comprehend the List. Current Zoro with his New King of hell Mode would definitely beat Kaido. If Kaido had to dodge his attacks before he was able to master his Conquerors what do you think would happen now? So you watched the scene with Roger handling Oden easily and told your self "Yea Roger attacked him with killing intent and he tanked it, he is the strongest ever." Name One attack Rocks has.... Thats why he is so low fam, it's not rocket science. I don't mean to hurt your feelings.@@grim9501
I love this list so much. I can't help but imagine a timeline where JP vs The West happens, and the fate of the world rests on each team drafting a team of 10 One Piece characters to fight it out, and how wildly different each regions priorities would be.
@@Par-Blindspotshe managed to fight law and kid at the same time and they only “won” cause of external factors + she fought kaido for 3 days. She is certainly stronger than MANY characters on this list
honestly, i think it would be very appropriate to think of rocks as a buggy-like character, it would be very oda-esque to play that joke on us, to have one of the most hyped prospect pirates be a complete and utter joke, it would also make a very good plot twist to show that buggy is the one to have inherited his will instead of teach
More like related to Buggy but a what if Buggy actually trained to show what he would be capable of it took garp and roger teaming up to beat him and he made shiki,big mom,kaido and whitebeard his crew by force he no joke pretty much the pirate king before roger wanted to be king of the world.
I love list like this because it makes you think how many people read what they were voting for and how many people saw a list of one piece characters and just assumed it was another popularity contest
My guess: the participants off this ranking got somewhat confused between "how much do I like the character" and "how strong is the character" No one likes big mom and BB, hence they're not even on the list.
The Blackbeard and Big Mom disrespect is INSANE! Also, if we've got 'Does-Nothing-Dragon' on this list because of hypothetical powers he may or may not have, then Imu should definitely be on this list.
@@Par-Blindspot And yet the Main Antagonist, who logically would be the strongest person, as the final obstacle for the protagonist to overcome, isn't even on the list.
starting off by saying "western powerscaling can be cringy and pointless" ... proceeds to read out at least 10 cringy and pointless characters in japans top 20 that were clearly voted by how much people like them and not by power at all i was totally expecting Nami to be #1 after a while =D
Its crazy to me that Zoro is ranked top 10 and Sanji not even on the list. Cause they are very clearly always set up to be eachothers relative equals with a small distance between them😂
Zoro fans will always argue that Sanji is billion times weaker then Zoro. Even gl does this in power scaling graph in his last video about Nami he put jimbe above Sanji.
@@luis15317 Are you talking about Zoro fans? I would say yes Zoro fans have something to do with this list as it's horribly inaccurate and people just voted for thier favourite character and zoro is the second most popular character and his is strong so he was placed high up by Zoro fans despite not being in the top 20 strongest characters yet. I mean zoro is struggling with Lucci who Luffy beat easily. If you are talking about Sanji and Zoro being on a strongest list. Then I agree Sanji and Zoro are not strong enough to be on the top 20 strongest list
@stempest7218 I am talking about Zoro and Sanji. They don't belong near a top 20 strongest characters of all time Of course Zoro fans are fault for this yes.
@@luis15317 i agree both Sanji and Zoro shouldnt be on list. I think the op was just wondering if zoro was on the list even if he shouldn't be why wouldn't sanji when they are close in strength.
I was hoping Sanji to have a bit of a fight with Kizaru but looks liked that's not happening. Also was kinda hoping to see Franky use the light gloves on Kizaru
Respectfully disagree due to missing characters Imo assuming the characters based on their background and roles in the story, plus all characters in prime 1 - Imu 2 - Joyboy 3 - sword god ryuma 4 - rocks d xebec 5 - Roger = garp = whitebeard 8 - sengoku = fleet admiral kong 9 - monkey d dragon 10 - shanks 11 - Mihawk 12 - Kaido 13 - Rayleigh 14 - big mom 15 - Shiki 16 - Blackbeard 17 - luffy 18 - akainu 19 - kuzan 20 - oden
Few things wrong with your list 1. Imu is implied to have defeated joyboy yes but we don’t know what exactly happened so let’s not jump to conclusions (I’d do the same thing you did for Garp, Roger and WB which was making them interchangeable) 2. Mihawk and Shanks not being interchangable or Mihawk being put above Shanks (if you consider prime Shanks being two handed then you should’ve made them interchangeable, but if you roll with the take Shanks missing an arm isn’t weaker than Shanks with both arms then you could put Mihawk above Shanks or make them interchangeable) 3. Luffy being stronger than Kuzan and Akainu when Luffy just stalemated Kizaru in egghead who is weaker than both Akainu and Kuzan?? 4. Kuzan and Akainu being ranked WAY too low on the list 5. Rayleigh somehow being OVER Shiki who fought against both Sengoku and Garp but Sengoku and Garp are placed 8 and 5 and Rayleigh being in 13? 6. Big Mom being stronger than Luffy, Akainu, Kuzan, Shiki and Blackbeard and Rayleigh being stronger than Big Mom
Kizaru didn’t pressure luffy that much, luffy just got tired because of kizauru speed and the time the battle took, but i think kizaru could damage luffy a bit, but compare how kaido hit luffy and what kizaru did, the only damage luffy took was passing through a barrier that was theoretically impossible for a human being TWICE
to be fair to benn beckman, he’s the ONLY confirmed character to be able to coat bullets in haki. he can shoot haki bullets. that means his armaments INSANE (prob about the same as mihawks), and he’s shanks right hand man. anything shanks has done with the red-haired pirates, benn was right there at his side.
You are right, he is the only one known to coat his bullets with Haki. The Kuja warriors coated their arrows. Coating ammunition is a rare thing, but more because using ammunition based weapons is a rather rare thing in this world among haki users. If the Kuja warriors can do it, it can't be that difficult. I don't thing coating ammunition in general is a good argument for being extremely strong.
Zoro being in 8th place makes sense in a way if you see like, zoro will not lose to anyone cause he promised his captain that he will never get defeated again,and his goal/dream is to beat/defeat mihawk sooooo yeah,I mean one piece is all about aim high and flyyyyyyy😅!
I feel like this ranking is basically a ranking of the strongest characters we saw a proper fight for. People like Oden or Rocks they dont have a good reference for so while there are enough people who know how strong they are meant to be to put them on the list, most wouldnt think of them during voting.
My top 20 1 Edward Newgate White beard 2 Gol D. Roger 3 Rocks D. Xebec 4 Kiado 5 Shanks 6 Dracule Mihawk 7 Big Mom 8 Sakuzuki Aokainu 9 Black beard Marshall D. Teach 10Monkey D. Garp 11 Sengoku 12 Monkey D. Luffy 13 Kuzan Aokiji 14 Kizaru Borsalino 15 Dark king Rayleigh 16 Kozuki Oden 17 Golden Lion Shiki 18 Ben Beckman 19 King 20 Charlotte Katakuri
Rocks should defo be stronger than roger and whitebeard, and shanks and mihawk and akainu defo beat kaido and linlin, luffy garp sengoku aokiji and kizaru slam big mom, also think zoro and sanji should replace king and katakuri
Imu? 5 Elders? Rocks being the captain of several future emperors? Blackbeard having Whitebeards devil fruit + the darkness fruit? There are awful lists, then there are just straight up illogical ones.
My Top 20 without ranking with speculations plus prime: Big Mom Kaido Shanks WB Roger Garp Sengoku Luffy Dragon ? Mihawk Imu ? 5 elders ? Akainu Kuzan BB Loki ? Kizaru Xebec Dark King Kong?
Maybe they took into consideration that Shiki faught Garp and Sengoku + an army of marines in Marineford by himself. Though he lost, he was still the first person to ever escape Impel Down
My top 30😊 1. Edward Newgate Whitebeard 2. Gol D Roger 3. Rocks D Xebec 4. Imu 5. Monkey D Dragon 6. Shanks (figerland?) 7. Mihawk 8. Kaido 9. Marshall D Teach Blackbeard 10. Monkey D Luffy 11. Big mom 12. Sakazuki Akainu 13. Aokiji 14. Kizaru 15. Fujitora 16. Oden 17. Trafalgar D Law 18. Ben Beckman 19. Garp 20. Sabo 21. Golden Lion Shiki 22. Silvers Rayleigh 23. Green bull 24. Zoro 25. Katakuri 25. King 27. Shiryu 29. Weevil 29. Sanji 30. Kuma Now I for sure wanne put Boa in there. And maybe some of the Red hair pirates. Maybe more of the Marines we have not seen enough of. Maybe even some of the revolutioneries. And some of those big boss elders or maybe some Celestial dragons like figarland who for sure is top 15, he scared Whitebeard(wild). Just have not seen enough to know where they at ya know.