They wouldnt be that upset at criminal dying, but people would believe its a new super criminal jackass getting rid of the competition before thinking its a vigilante. Even worse its a STRONGER criminal that show up. That what i would belive if i didnt have real life info on what going on.
>if you kill someone that kills others, commits disproportionate amounts of crime, and shows no signs of respect for general society, the number of killers remains the same What a stupid saying
That saying never made sense because there would be one less killer and yeah you’d be one too but that doesn’t mean the amount of killers would remain the same. And if you killed multiple killers then the number of killers left would be lower. Plus every day and year there’s always a new or new killers made so why not go ahead and make that number lower especially if it’s getting rid of bad people.
"killed in cold blood". she said it like they were model citizens and not... well, crime lords, psychopathic murderers, drug dealers and terrorists. i can't with this universe.
Nooo not Cheetah!! She had the potential to be great!! Her story is really heartbreaking. She became friends with Diana, and ended up being taken as the avatar of a cheetah god. Now she is unable to escape said god. Much like Diana, she will be forced to live and watch all her friends and family die out. And maybe eventually they can reconcile before the two die. Their friendship was ripped from them because of the stupid cheetah god. They deserve happiness. Wonder Woman still hasn’t given up on Cheetah, and still sees hope for her. Barbara Anne Minerva deserved so much more.
@@ravencollins5638 huh. I got a crush on her just from her being herself, then I saw her and Diana flirt with each other in the comics and just: “wow… she is way out of my league… I should leave her to a woman who deserves her”
There ain’t no way they actually said “Notorious crime lords gunned down in cold blood” lmao. Pretty sure crime lords order people to be “gunned down in cold blood” all the time 😂
@@Enoch610 you have no idea what the term cold blood means, do you? It just means to killing without mercy, which is exactly what Jason did. It doesn’t mean the victims were good people.
"The people are terriffied by batman's murderous companion" Nnaaaaah, if Gotham was real people would be throwing parades for the dude. He'd get a freaking statue and a golden star in some street for his efforts. Imagine the Joker trying to nuke the city for the millionth time and this dude claps him, instant national hero
Lock Down really was a Hero in the Batman Animated Series. The Government of Gotham would rather throw Joker or 2 Face in Arkham for the zillionth time rather than executing them for having a murder count too high to fathom.
The dude is killing street muggers and detained criminals. He is literally every police brutality story but with out even the allusion of accountability. Do you think Gotham’s located in Texas?!?
I could understand where Batman is coming from by not killing, it’s a slippery slope. But there are those in Gotham who has caused soo much harm to those living there
its more to him, Bruce knows he is INSANE - he is just as bonkers as his rogues ... and his RULES are the thing that is holding him on the side of good ... thats why he has the no kill rule because he knows his broken mind would spiral out of control if he let it happen even once - that DOESNT mean it will apply to OTHERS however despite hack writers always treating the "no kill rule or you go villain" as aplicable to everyone ... even lets say thousands of years old amazonian warriors, active military fighter pilots or survivors of Martian civil war ...
saying killing is a slippery slope is like saying cops should never use lethal force on armed/dangerous suspects because they will turn into insane murderous psychopaths killing a person will not drive you insane, especially when it's justified
It’s not about superheroes refusing to kill, it’s about failure of justice system. Batman doesn’t need to kill, court needs to have proper verdicts and means to uphold them.
@@moxflied wich he then puts in to be processed by the criminal justice system, who then lets them go, and the cycle repeats, dont forget gotham crimw rate is shit high, and people work for mob bosses and criminal gangs, becuase they pay better, if a influencial company like say Wanetech, were to push towards better pay for people and citezens they wouldnt need to turn to crime to support themselves and their familys, crime bosses just do what Mega Corps do, but without government protection, Joker litterally does more to help the people of gotham than batman, if batman wanted to save gotham he would have, as bruce wane, but becuase his parents were shot by criminals, becuase they wpre fucking jewelery around thier neck that probably could have fed that criminal for years(given gotham economy) and kills them, batman sees the criminal as the bad guy, but not the true injustice that cuases the criminals to commit crime, batman is a very well written hero, but also a really Evil one that plays on his own Ego and Self-Reichiousness
Thank you so f*cking much for being the only other goddamn sensible individual in this comment section; the government is the one failing you. Why are you blaming the only person actually doing something just because he doesn’t want to have to live with killing someone. The dude already has trauma related to watching his parents die and yall mfs are desperate to make him kill. Yall need some help if you can’t see how absolutely f*cked it is to act like he’s doing something wrong by not killing when he doesn’t have to kelp anyone at all. He has no obligation to help anyone; quit complaining when does.
haters are desperate to clown anyone for anything, even when it’s just a dude deciding to not kill someone. How are you going to clown someone for not killing? Are you dumb, a hypocrite, or just sociopathic? Regardless your opinions are invalid
Devil’s Advocate / Head Cannon: In order for for those restraints to hold Cheetah, they were likely made from a special metal. If that metal was something like Nth Metal, it’s possible that restraints were disrupting her magical/divine transformation; weakening her to the point she was vulnerable to attacks that she otherwise wouldn’t be.
Cheetah suffers the worst power scaling of any villain in the DC universe. One minute, she's singlehandedly fighting the Justice League, going toe to toe with Flash and WW. The next minute she’s getting put down by street-level heroes.
Calling Batman or red hood street level is wild considering that if they were bad guys than they could literally take out the entirety of the justice league alone.
"After Batman apprehended Cheetah for the 17th time following her most recent escape last week an unidentified man in a mask was a spotted rolling his eyes and actually did something to stop her."
How did he kill Cheetah with a single shot from a pistol when she can take punches from Wonder Woman and Superman without going down? And as for Batman regularly catching her, she's primarily a wonder woman villain, not a Batman one.
@@jonathanspivey437if you only watch the movies and shows you would think cheetah is super weak. Like she’s not amazing or anything but they be doing her dirty lol
Tbh, Batman is the crazy one, for letting evil continue on. If you want to end evil, you end it. That doesn’t make you evil. I never understood why heroes never understood that, in hindsight the situations would resolve if heroes killed their villains…
That invites others to fill in the spot who could be way worse for both the city and its citizens. Gothem is crime ridden, but those crime lords know that without them that city will spiral down worse to the point of collapse. I wish it were that simple but unfortunately gothem is just screwed no matter which way you try and turn it
Neither of the _"Red Hood films"_ the org or the redux (( _DitF_ )) have Red Robin in that _Earth 22 Kingdom Come_ garb in them, from my memory anyway.
@@Chef_Alpo Which is just hilarious. They make a big deal out of Jason’s change, but it still feel corporate safe, because they refuse to kill some villain they probably wouldn’t use anyway.
Pretty sure cheetah survived an elephant hunting gun shot straight to the face during the suicide squad comic and was only knocked out for a brief moment. Unless the bullet was enchanted in some way that allowed it to counteract her magical durability. Don’t count that other dc movie where cheetah got taken out but flipping reg gunshots……that was so strange how every super powered squad me ever died yet boomer(human) harley( enhanced cap like strength level at best) and king shark (I understand this one) somehow killed these enhance paradooms till they went kaboom
That collar kind of makes it look like she likes it wild style. Also why the fuck are they trying to put her in the back of a police car? You need a van for her.
I absolutely HATE it when these writers mix and match up the characters however they want to ‼️Jason Todd was NEVER “Red Robin”, Tim Drake was/is‼️Jason Todd was/is the “Red Hood”‼️The writers keep trying to switch both Jason Todd’s and Tim Drake’s characters into the other. They also have the habit of degrading/killing Dick Grayson as much as possible‼️
I'm fairly certain this is a fan made image cover of the actual red hood movie... I don't think they mixed and matched the characters at all... pretty sure it's a dan made trailer.
@@nerdiklesIt’s an interactive remaster of under the red hood for dvd, you can choose your own adventure and this is what happens if Batman dies saving Jason and Jason goes down the path of revenge killing joker in Bruce’s name.
@@nerdikles While this may be fan made, I have lost count of the number of times that writers have done it. I’m a big fan of the Cartoon Network’s version of The Batman Adventures, but, the writers pulled the same BS of combining Jason Todd’s backstory with Tim Drake’s character. Jason Todd’s Robin wasn’t liked by the long time fans, but, Tim Drake’s Robin was extremely popular‼️The writers obviously liked Jason Todd’s version over Tim Drake’s version,which was a more of a modern update of Dick Grayson’s version.
There was a Punisher "What if?" Comice where Punisher went to Gotham. Crime nearly disappeared within a month, because every one of Batman's "Rogue Gallery" became a corpse and nobody was stupid enough to try anything while the Punisher was in town. In a situation like Gotham, the lack of leathal force is about as backwards thinking as you can get.
So it's an alternate dc where military training and an automatic rifle can bring down the likes of riddler, joker, penguin, and bane? The multiverse really is a big place
@@shealupkes the vast majority of Batman's rogues gallery are just humans, and a bullet works just fine. Bane is the only one that might take an anti-tank round, because in the original lore, he had internal armor around his vital organs, not sure they kept that in later versions.
@@13shadowwolf yes and so is Bruce, I don't need to tell you how disrespectful it is to get a batman story where a villains means of eliminating him is by simply shooting him
@@shealupkes "disrespectful"? More like "realistic"; Batman should be wearing a suit of bulletproof armor, his plot armor is so thick it's boring to read anything to do with the character. His moral stances don't work in the world that he exists within. Someone once did an analysis of all the people Joker has killed, and the number of times Batman "stopped" him, it makes Batman look like a self-centered psychopath to not-kill the Joker when you look at how many people the Joker has killed over the years. Batman knows Joker is going to escape, and he knows Jokers will not stop. It's like doing catch and release with a rabid tiger that is absolutely going to keep killing no matter what you do. Batman's moral stance, has cost tens of thousands of people their lives.
@@13shadowwolf realism is not a factor it's a tool, a tool I'll agree too few batman writers use when depicting Bruce's no kill rule, he'll try his damndest to keep someone like joker imprisoned but if given a trolley problem I feel like he'd pull the trigger, and would do so as Bruce Wayne so batmans rule would not be broken
Surprisingly no Gotham in the comics is magically cursed to always produce the worst possible “monster” it can for each era it’s in and the greater the heroes rise up to face them the greater the evil the curse produces If you kill joker, the curse will just make a worse joker in a month. But if you contain joker, he just escapes after a while with the curse keeping the government from executing him
@@TheUnMaka This was put in place to explain why Gotham never gets any better despite Bruce Wayne throwing so much money at the problems it has through charity and vigilantism I think it’s stupid but that’s comics
BATMAN catches crime boss : I AM THE CONSEQUENCE!! I AM THE VENGEANCE!! I AM THE NIGHT!! I AM THE BATM... RED ROBIN : BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !! BANG !!! BATMAN : ...*... Background music - " another one bites the dust ." 🎶
It’s terrible that he’s actually doing what should have been done in the first place to avoid so many innocent lives being taken and having streets filled with untold suffering.
They are, the villains are too. Gotta remember the difference between these guys and Randy the prison guard. Also government programs like the suicide squad release villains for their own use.
@@keenari0470 there’s a DC Abridged series that plays with that in a way the comics should really think about using. Basically, The Light gives its members clones, which Joker abuses. As Joker knows that this is happening, he plays into it trying to get Bats to kill him. Bats also has a genuine reason on top of his no kill rule to not kill Joker. Joker doesn’t get a clone when he’s still alive, so he knows where Joker is after he catches him.
@@sevenclovers7 jus a wild idea, if you have a prison for super villain you dont put Randy the prison guard in charge of it, you hire someone with super powers or you put Amazo Robots in charge of it, or maybe you put the prison in some place that is impossible to escape from.
@user-xi4bl8jg5v Also, Superman. Clark would go out of his way to avoid killing to the point where he's literally allowed people he cares about to die as collateral damage.
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd The point is that she absolutely believes evil can be cured and only kills when there is no other option, just like superman. A lot of portrayals of wonder woman outside of the comics and in elseworlds portray her as just a killer, but her greatest and most iconic runs, such as the Perez run, gail simone, greg rucka, etc, show that she is first and foremost an advocate for peace and redemption that kills only as an absolute last resort. So "Evil can't be cured. only killed" is not based for wonder woman or superman, or really the majority of DC heroes.
@@connoc5078 yes, Diana use killing like last option, but she still considers it a option, she will try any other option, but if they fail she will 100% kill
It looks like super Batman did a medium effort if escaping from the bad guys and just watching there that's violently scary and he was like just observing?😢
@@firstnamelastname9237 308 tends to go trough skulls rather easy, even with hunting-grade ammo. And since he was going for the headshot the rifle didn't really matter much either, could've been some cheap m700 w/ any x4 scope thrown on top of it.
@@J--12 Human skulls. Cheetah's superhuman and tends to contend with a bulletproof super strong superhuman. Could say maybe it's how precise it is but pretty sure a hit from wonder woman should be worse than a bullet.
That’s because this movie is “Batman: Death in the Family”. This movie can become an interactive movie where us viewers choose what happens. In this reality, Jason survived and becomes the Red Robin and starts killing all the criminals of Gotham.
I’m sooo glad someone else noticed this, I was going to say that? Red hood vibes but with the wrong robin? But then again I forgot about the interactive one where you decide the outcomes so I’m guessing this is just one of those 🤷🏾♂️
Some maniac running around killing people? They don’t know what rules Now You’re Dead Red judges people on. How bad is his bad? What if he starts killing people over petty crimes? It’s one thing to say that’d be nice, it’s another to have to live with that. They’d also be worried about Bloody Robin escalating. How do you know Gun Red leaves Gotham for a nice hunting trip? Or kills you even if you go straight, like Punisher does?
@sevenclovers7 El Salvador. The country. The previous murder capital of the world. The current president campaigned on being hard on crime and won his election in a landslide. Under him, the country is extremely harsh on the country's gangs and the murder rate dropped 70% in a single year.
@pkroninverse7307 that's just eye from an eye. Also if you thnik about it. You do that to them. Their family will come looking for vengeance against you and if they succeed, your family will go for vengeance against them. When does the cycle of violence end.
Woah batman captured cheetah that's a really strong villain that's wonder womens Arch nemesis she got full body amps and with speed and agility rivalling weak speedsters and claws so sharp and with magic too that's a crazy batman feat
@@tunderstorm2769Yeah I've heard of Red Hood. Have you never heard of Red Robin, because that's who's in the video and his first appearance was in 1996.
@@ShadowRulah seriously. Cheatah was already in custody, and it's not like she's despot that kills for teh lulz like Joker. Would RR kill Catwoman too?