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Dr. Jay Speaking at Our Strong Tower

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@stargategoku
@stargategoku Год назад
Fantastic summary of SIN from bretheren Dr Jay Smith
@MrChemenger
@MrChemenger Год назад
Jay the summary is excellent thanks a million.
@ProfYaffle
@ProfYaffle Год назад
Would be good for a version of this to be produced specifically with western, Muslims in mind. It is a brilliant summary, but for my Muslim friends I would like a version where there is not a hint of their being laughed at. Also at a steady pace like Samuel Green uses, steady but without distractions and without prior assumptions of knowledge. Jay has done an excellent job and I know he was pushed for time.
@20july1944
@20july1944 Год назад
Yes, it would be better to have a version that carefully avoids even implicit mockery and acknowledges Moslems generally intend to honor the True God even if we're sure they've misidentified Him.
@jrhirsch1
@jrhirsch1 Год назад
Mocking false religions is quite acceptable in the old testament. "25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.” 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it. Then they called(AD) on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response;(AE) no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made. 27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.”(AF) 28 So they shouted louder and slashed(AG) themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice.(AH) But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention."
@ProfYaffle
@ProfYaffle Год назад
@@jrhirsch1 if you look at how Jesus behaves he treats people as individuals based on their hearts. My Muslim friends have goid hearts, but have been cruelly deceived. I coukd not mock them. There but for the grace of God go I
@frabber321
@frabber321 Год назад
@@ProfYaffle You know we muslims think the opposite, right?. That Christians have been drawn away from the Gospel of Jesus (which is the Injeel which isn't around). Instead you are stuck with a progressively higher christology of Mark Luke Paul etc. You have been misled into a tri-une God, no different than the golden calf worshippers or the zillion of other polytheistic believe systems. None of the previous prophets including Jesus believed in a tri-une God. Everything we find of Quran reinforces the preservation of the Quran. Everything we don't have (missing) of the original bible manuscripts shows the corruption in the King James bible. Now this Jay Smith still trying his level best? He probably will till he is the last non muslim..
@ProfYaffle
@ProfYaffle Год назад
@@frabber321 I know you think it. But you have know evidence for it. There is no progressively increasing Chrustology. Mark is full of evidence of Jesus divinity. Have you studied Mark's Gospel yourself? Or are you simply repeating what you have been told? See Mark 14:62 !and thereabouts. The Qran is no more or less preserved than the Bible. Both the Qran and Bible have copying errors. The Bible has a few additional passages. But we could remove them and it would make bo difference. I have Bridges translation app. It actually contains some of the differences in the Qrn. Watch videos by e.g. Bart Ehrman, atheist scholar. He will show you that we can be sure about the contents of our Scriptures. You Muslims make these claims, but tell me who changed the Gospel message? When? Why? How? It makes no sense. How did someone gather all the copies in the world and change them? Think it through, if you can. You are also wrong about the Trinity. The Trinity is evidenced throughout the Bible. Jesus said to baptise in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit. What was that about, do you think? Have you studied the Trinity in the Old Testament? I have. Or are you simply repeating what you have heard.
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