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Recovering power from lowering a load is a brilliant idea, it means you'd only lose energy from various losses in the system, but the bulk of the energy you spend lifting something is returned when you lower it again. I imagine if you were using the crane to lift a number of things from a tall building down to ground level (e.g. lifting an empty dumpster up and bringing it down full) you might be able to generate enough electricity to entirely power the crane without needing anything from the grid! I wonder whether an electric crane would have to have the ability to feed power back into the grid for situations like this. It might actually be a net generator of electricity for certain workloads.

Don't some cranes already recapture energy or use a generator like motor when lowering loads?I don't know where the power would currently be going but it sure makes sense for batteries

@@reviewcrewforyou I retired a couple of years ago, and up to that point the only type of crane capable of recovering any energy was the tower crane, which is almost always electric powered. However, I never saw one that actually had any kind of recovery system. That is not to say there wasn't one, just that I'm not aware of one.

FYI--there is an energy storage company that wants to use a tower style crane and concrete blocks...I was thinking other cranes could be used in the same manner if designed to have duel purposes

@@nc3826 There is somewhere that they use train cars filled with something and move them up an incline as energy storage. I've also heard of pumping water up and recapturing when it falls.

Oddly enough, I feel the same. And I can see exactly zero scenarios where I'd actually require to use such a thing... lol

But what about the digger?

I wonder if my wife would notice if I parked it behind the shed. Having one of these would be so cool.

Hahhahaha i had the same feeling

Let's all bob's cone 2gether, and start building green, around the world 🌍

I can watch other people work for hours.

then you should visit India for seeing people just watching the jcb excavating OR just watch the videos about it here on youtube. they're gold lol

Have a look at access platforms. Many electric varieties available and have been for years.

A great toy

They'll solve that by boring holes with ultrasound - that too will then be silent - other than the flying debris hitting stuff !

Yeah, that pesky adobe software.

*dpf filters (diesel particulate filters).^^ LOL!

😂😂😂

lol

To bady one will be dead any way

There are at least three on the market right now, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UUlQGnViw3k.html There is also at least one Skid-Steer that has been converted to electric. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IY6sv7kPIYo.html

+1. 200 IQ mate - this'd save farmers many costs, not mentioning the emissions taxes, fuel duties, etc.

@@taznz1 Can't wait for these to be more common. I have a Massey Ferguson 565-size tractor which is not a huge farm tractor nor a small dinky one, but somewhere in between. There is CONSTANTLY something wrong with old tractors, and an electric drive would make so much sense on a small farm. I don't use it all day, so 3-4 hours of run time is perfectly fine.

They do see NFU news - www.nfuonline.com/cross-sector/farm-business/energy-and-renewables/energy-and-renewables-news/electric-tractors-your-views-revealed/

@@adamp.3739 Farmers don't pay fuel duty so have less financial incentive to switch

Mining equipment has been mostly electric for probably 50 years at the very least and most of industry is run by electric motors, so weirdly, the car industry is very much the latecomer to the party. The difference is almost none of this electric mining and digging equipment was battery powered because it was much cheaper and easier to run armoured power lines to the machinery. Some of the really big equipment gets a whole substation to itself. Batteries are the only part of electric vehicles that hasn't been way cheaper than IC powered machinery almost since its inception. In the very early days of cars electric was holding its own with IC and the lack of good batteries and environmental regulations gave IC a massive lead.

peglor Car companies were actually there before mining... Ford had a electric model T. Battery size is the limiting factor on bigger machines.

Like when you're confined to one planet.

They tend to use gas powered fork lift trucks inside warehouses as the fumes are less of an issue.

Zery tail swing diesel

That is a really good sugestion

Now there's a thought!

😂 genius. But wait for the electric forklift 😜

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+William Hall LOL dude, electric forklifts have been a thing since forklift was invented imao.

Mitch King The electric motor will simply drive the pump that makes hydraulic pressure and will run variably to match required pressure/load/travel-speed. Hydraulic motors and actuators run every aspect of movement or motion. Including spreading the track stance. I thought for this story it would have been worth summarising for people not exposed to them. Incredibly easy to adapt the standard design to electric power.

Love to see a cabbed one with a heater being used in dead of winter work for 8 hrs

@@saff_cozzie you've got 2 options fort that either use a webasto heater which can run on kerosine which is about 20% cheaper than red diesel or use an electric heat pump which will also give you air conditioning in the summer.

@@electronicinduction4116 I can't see there being too many takers for the kerosine heater option on a zero emissions vehicle that appears to have more than enough spare battery to run for the day and keep a heat pump going too.

Cassette Walkman I don't think it's a variable speed to match input. When Robert turned it on he said you can hear the pump, plus it wouldn't be responsive enough to match the fast changing inputs.

aaron quinn diesel fume is killer.

Do ya wear gloves when you shit? Diesel is the best scent in the morning 🤘🏼

your a twat and not a machine driver of any kind

yeah it made me happy

Track maintenance should be a priority too (as subways and trains have poverlines to reduce the battery demand).

@@fionafiona1146 absolutely!

If I'm j

I would really like to see an electric telehandler to replace the ones at my workplace, which I think can lift 10k+ lbs. They're occasionally left idling for over 30 minutes and every now and then the exhaust gets into my office and lingers for hours. Unfortunately, given the culture of not caring about pollution and misconceptions about electric vehicles, I'm certain they would be slow to adopt electric alternatives if they were available and at least as good as the diesels.

This is a good thing.

Building over head lines is cheap than batterys and quite convenient for urban public transport

there is still trade offs...like how good is its thermal management...it may not be of much use in extreme cold weather.. since digger rarely used when the ground frozen....

"overhead lines for digger" LMAO

N C They actually freeze a lot of ground to make it easier and safer to dig.

I bet she has stopped caring!

@@DavidKnowles0 There's a lovely bit in Bob's last book with her berating the kids who are in Australia saying "get a job if you need money your dad deserves a Tesla" she still cares.

they dont dig holes idiot

@@martinjeffery3590 Don't be an ass! Why are you so mean?

@Ross Bourne It's a problem with extension reels, not with EVs. But many people's first experience of the phenomenon will be when charging an EV, simply because the continuous high power draw is not something they would normally use their extension reel for. electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/192923/why-is-it-dangerous-use-a-coiled-extension-cord It's more likely to affect people with little-to-no EV experience (perhaps as a driver or perhaps as the owner of a property allowing an EV to charge there for the first time) so gives a bad first impression. So I think EV advocates/professionals should probably do more to make people aware.

Employer should have provided PPE.

Farm tractors don't work that much. A few days in the spring, and, then at harvest time. Maybe 30 --40 days a year. But when they work , it can be 20 house a day of run time. This is not a good use of electric equipment. Electric machines should work every day to cover the capital costs.

@@kkarllwt some farms and some tractors and some crops are as you describe. Some aren't. Some crops are harvested all year and tractors run for a couple of hours every day. Some crops are harvested for a few days 24/7 and no one wants to stop for maintenance. Some tractors have huge power demands, dragging wide ploughs. Others bumble around spreading, spraying or carrying feed.

@@kkarllwt since I'm a dairy farm of 28 years. I can tell you that's not the case for most tractors and telly handellers on dairy and beef farms they run about 4hrs minimum every day 365 days a year.

Electric tractors would never work

Surely something stops being a shed when a scissor lift is involved.

I bought an electric chainsaw earlier this year. It certainly is not silent !

@@millomweb I didn't think they were either before I heard his one. It was a lime tree so maybe it cut easily but It didn't make much noise at all (I think I was also expecting the noise of a petrol one so that may have made it seem quieter than it was to me - either way a massive improvement.

@@robsmith1a I'm guessing noise sources are: chain Chain drive gears motor and most noise from the motor fan. I suspect if I block the air vents to the motor on mine, it'd seem quiet too. Think of the noise of electric hand drills, angle grinders and cut-off saws. All motor fan noise!

Volvo are also making their mining trucks electric as well.

Right, I'm crazy. Anyone interested in my new engine ?

retread01 evs have been around for longer then the internal combustion engine they just never took off because the range was rubbish. Everything in evs is ancient apart from the batteries. Do you think engines have not advanced in the 200 years they’ve been around? There a lot cleaner now and more efficient. And how is oil a dodgy fuel source it won’t last forever but it works quite will. Internal combustion still is better for lots of things like racing. My motorbike makes about 38hp can do about 1h 30 mins on a tank of fuel an electric one only makes 20hp and can last about 40 mins and a race can last 3-5hrs so you would need 5-6 batteries.

I'm guessing the 2kW wall wont be able to run the motor (Amps are insane with battery vehicles) and charging/discharging at the same time, has historically not been good for battery longevity. Maybe they could make it so it extends longevity, by not charging, but sending mains power to the motor and having the battery pull the slack. But by the looks of it, unless its running 24 hour shifts, it's not really needed :p

Good question. Not that you'd really need that. At least at Rob's rate (down by 20% in 3 hours) you could dig 15 hours without recharging. So unless you have got a 24h worksite, there will always be time to recharge it to full.

At the speed it drives, the traction motors probably use much less power than the hydraulic pumps so standing still probably wouldn't save much. The video says it charges at 1.8 kW for eight hours and that covers a normal day's work, so I guess that means it uses roughly 1.8 kW in operation. I guess that would allow it to run off a standard wall socket without needing batteries, but something tells me you'd probably need a higher current socket to actually do it (maybe 20 A or so). Still, I am surprised as I would've expected it to need considerably more power, but I guess that's because I'm thinking of electric cars. They seem to have quite large power ratings due to the peaks they pull when accelerating, which wouldn't be the case here as everything would be running at a fairly consistent rate - highway driving if you will.

@@Berkeloid0 The drive is done hydraulically as well, there isn't a separate drive motor its just an electric motor coupled to an hydraulic pump running everything.

@@zaragonrl Interesting. I wonder whether in the long run it would be cheaper to replace them with electric motors or whether hydraulic ones (including the lines to run them) would work out cheaper?

Only the breaking is noisy?

He forgot to put a tarp down.

vince King - Any amount of load noise, even for short periods, has a detrimental effect on hearing. If you’re in a work/s environment, where you have to raise your voice even a little to be heard. Then the level of sound in dB is too great. Some HSE notes on hearing protection HSE wording is in [ ] Employers_ [Provide your employees with hearing protection if you cannot reduce the noise exposure enough by using other methods.] (Since this is a paid production, even though this is the operator’s own garden. He/Fully Charged effectively is the employer.) Given the confines of filming, I would suggest the only reduction to the noise exposure, would be if someone else could be the operator. But that wasn’t going to be the case. So ipso-facto, he should have been wearing ear defenders. [The Regulations do not apply to: • members of the public exposed to noise from their non-work activities, or making an informed choice to go to noisy places] [The values are: lower exposure action values: • daily or weekly exposure of 80 dB; • peak sound pressure of 135 dB; upper exposure action values: • daily or weekly exposure of 85 dB; • peak sound pressure of 137 dB.] But as he is ultimately being paid for the production; he is not a ‘member of the public’. The regs covering [regulations protecting workers in the music and entertainment sectors from exposure to excessive noise] are still legally relevant and covered by the HSE.

I am 17 and starting get titinus form a Sander, I narrowly escaped. Wear full ppe now

vince King - I do hope your level of tinnitus levels off and that you have good hearing all your life. Each of us only has one body; it’s much more fun being able to still do what you want in advancing years. Because you and or your employers looked after it before.

Ross Bourne 30-40%... Mercedes has a engine that's over 50% efficient

Ross Bourne Yeah, but nothing competes with the energy density of fossils even with the lack of efficiency.

Ross Bourne And when they do, people will transfer over.

M Hadi Yes, it's not the 1980's technology has improved. Have you noticed cars have been getting better mpg, we haven't been adding energy to the fuel. We have worked out how to use it more efficiently. thenewswheel.com/mazda-skyactiv-3-engine-to-achieve-56-thermal-efficiency/ And here a link to help you understand thermal efficiency. And you'll see big diesels are near 50% efficient. www.nuclear-power.net/nuclear-engineering/thermodynamics/thermodynamic-cycles/diesel-cycle-diesel-engine/thermal-efficiency-for-diesel-cycle/

@M Hadi - look it up. high speed diesels run about 35% efficiency. slow speed diesels, like the kind used in transport ships, that bring ev proponents their new cell phones and all the new slave labor fashion from the gap, approach 50%. and the original poster is correct. For small stuff the energy density of batteries is fine, but people that think electric is gonna take over the heavy mining or shipping industry are smoking crack. Theres actually an electric ship on youtube. It has a battery bank the size of a small apartment, and it gets 4 km range on a full charge. So, in order to make sure its not a completely useless floating piece of garbage, it also has a diesel motor intalled. 4 km. on electric, then the next 200 on the diesel.

cam legs How do you think the Channel Tunnel was dug...The Boring Company wasn't around then.

Glad you liked the pun!

jcb meme's though

Not Nissan then?

@@drdoolittle5724 Joint venture I think.

Hopefully Robert took the bloke for a nice drink and snag a invite to look at the battery and motor suppliers!

@@drdoolittle5724 Nissan and Renault are pretty much one and the same these days. They have a partnership and will share pretty much all their vehicle drive trains and floor pans.

@@cinnamondonkey2397 Thanks - never heard of them! But there is a difference between a 'battery manufacturer' and a battery 'cell manufacturer'... and my suspicions are confirmed with this excerpt from your linked article.... " Support from the Advanced Propulsion Centre (APC) played an integral role in the early stages of Hyperdrive’s seven-year history. The High Energy Density Battery Project (HEDB), in partnership with Nissan..."

Just needs a rubber tip to quieten it down ;-)

@@richbuilds_com 🤣

The diesel motor was driving the hydraulic pump. All functions were hydraulic. Just a different motor and energy storage system.

kkarllwt exactly right. Very similar pump just driven by an electric motor

Yep, I know the company I work for would have beeper horns going the whole time with flashing lights all over it

Needs a beep beep sound.. else an idiot will get crushed.. and there are many idiots

@@khavaliar that's why you should have a safety people near by during operation. I thought they have safety people around heavy machinery already. Am I wrong?

@@Mr_Battlefield honestly for the sake of saving lives & avoiding costly and time wasting lawsuits... it's not safe to have a really quiet machine.. at least flashing lights or a noise. Someone could bend to pick up a load then doesn't here it being reversed. Gets his foot mushed

@@khavaliar It already has twin flashing lights on the roof (from what I saw in the video)

Solar panels like this would be very inefficient and wouldn't contribute much charge (you would be lucky to get 2-3% charge from them over the course of a day) and are quite expensive. It's a common suggestion, but it doesn't add up in reality.

Keith Milner Same reason they don't add them to EV's.

Gary Duff Tower cranes already are. Problem with mobile cranes is, i don't think it would fly with the client when you tell you need to charge and can't do their lifts.

LueLou But that would involve the site installing 3 phase, just for them to do a lift.

JCB could make a chain digger attachment for it. 👌

Electric DitchWitch 👍

a month or two ago, he was all over twitter showing off the fact he had a electric trigger to play with.

The Tesla in the video is Roberts model 3 that he picked up earlier this month.

​@@dr-k1667 Look at the headlights, the door handles and the chrome parts on the back: it's his old Model S.

@@useyourbrain2174 My mistake. Thank you for the correction.

@@dr-k1667 There is no reason to apologize .

snowmanmike welcome to the world of tomorrow!

i am guessing 3 phase, so he can charge car at max amps! and to run all the electric machinery more efficiently!

To get beyond 7 kW.

I want to convert mine too. Do you know how to do it?

@@chrisphillips1948 yep, but I'm an electrical/mechanical engineer with a ton of lithium battery experience so for me it's easy.

Any tips, or resources you can recommend to help me out?

@@chrisphillips1948 get yourself over to the second Life storage forum, watch every video by Daniel romer (DIY tech and repairs) here on RU-vid, learn about what/how a lithium ion BMS works (Google) and go from there. The mechanical bit is easy, it's just a motor and coupling to a hydraulic pump. Making good, reliable and safe electrics when dealing with battery power that has the ability to burn your house down is the skilful part

@@dorsetengineering thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.

El Rey, I don't think that it's really an Australia (or any other country for that matter) centric issue really. Just the usual issue of people resisting change because what we have now is 'good enough' and just easier to keep using than improving anything.

I see that on their Facebook pages too. Other than the small amount of ABC in their diet, the rest of the day is spent consuming murdoch garbage.

I’m all for a reduction in fumes in confined spaces and urban environments for health reasons but I’m against the taxation tricks of the debunked and corrupt climate change pedlars.

@@rykerhasyounow I am a baby boomer living in Australia, and have had 16 solar panels on my roof for almost ten years, plus am now planning to add a 10kWh battery to the system and obtain an EV. Often it is young people who are slow to adapt because they have got themselves into so much debt buying junk.

In some ways here in Australia we are moving forward such as domestic solar panels, but then in other ways not so. Doesn't help having people like John Cadogan ranting on about how bad Tesla are just because they are going to destroy his business built on dealerships. It amazes me many people that comment on his videos and how mislead they are on the realities of how far EV's and renewables have come, seems I'm banned on commenting on his videos now as I kept correcting him and others.