Jeep Grand Cherokee vs Ford Explorer | 1990's Affordable Off-Road Shootout! 

Unless, like Ford, they claim the recall is expired or the bolts for the recall are "obsolete". 🙄

Are they doing this for the WJ's too? I remember hearing about it but never took my 2004 in.

@@JasnoGT yea they did for our WJ 6 years ago

Thanks! Will do!

@@TFLclassics - Thank you!! It’s surprising how much video time these two cheap vehicles have gotten vs some very expensive and interesting brand new models!! The ZR2 Silverado for example, you did get rid of it at the right time for the channel, but it showed up at a bad time when you had the TRX and the Bronco, which almost overshadowed the ZR2. People are really disappointed it wasn’t supercharged though and that trickled down to even yourselves. At the same time they complained about the price, just like the Raptor R now. Fully loaded very capable, to extremely capable STOCK off-road pickups have to be expensive merely for the drivetrains alone,,,,,. Sorry, tangent, has nothing to do with the original comment!! 😂😂😂 I am definitely liking the current trend on classics. For next show and shine season, it would be nice to see some of the trucks that show up at the different events!! There are open events, C10 events, Dent side events, Mopar events (the Mopar pickups are pretty rare, for a reason, but rare nonetheless), not sure if mini-trucks are popular there or not. Then feature a viewer’s ride at each event. I’m a truck guy, but it can be cars or vans. If the subject wants to explain the work, trials and errors during the builds, that would be fascinating. Of course if it doesn’t fit your format or get views, it couldn’t stay, but it might be worth it as a filler like your doing now! Stay safe fellas!!

Yeah, it's difficult to judge the capability of different vehicles with different drivers. Tommy clearly has more off road experience and it would have been interesting to see him drive both for a more even comparison.

It’s hard to crawl with a manual transmission without ridiculously low gearing.

Totally agree! Tommy needs to drive from now on!

@@HoosierDaddy_ - Brendan has to learn. He has admitted he doesn’t have a lot of experience. With Tommy teaching him, he will learn how to do things right. Tommy was pretty bad off-road at one time as well, he had some big throttle issues himself. A few comments, and his will to get better and he did so. A few trips with Nathan helped a bit I think as well. Nathan is a funny guy, but actually may be the best off-road, if not a little too assertive with the loaner vehicles. He and Tommy specifically did a trip for the TrailHawk versions of the Cherokee and the Renegade and there was a noticeable difference in Tommy’s skills after that trip. Tommy may have been working on it otherwise, only he knows, but his throttle control really started improving then. It took time behind the wheel to get better. The same as Brendan needs now. Fortunately for Brendan, he is learning from Tommy vs the initial period where Tommy learned from Roman and Andrey. Both of them have annoying habits, especially Andrey of over modulating the the throttle. Roman has improved though. It all takes experience and that gained behind the wheel and not watching someone else. Good on Brendan for trying!!

@@kevindavis5966 both guys are sissy s and couldn't change a flat tire .terrible drivers also.

and it's easy to do. Plenty of vids on it. That said, the 42RE transmission is a light/moderate duty unit that is maintenance sensitive. Clean fluid, clean filter, no "technical" offroad stuff, and it'll last 250+ miles. Beat it, neglect it, it'll break.

how many miles did you get out of it?

Bought a brand new 1998 Grand Cherokee Limited TSI with the 5.9, Quada -Trac, Black with tan leather interior, that Jeep was a Rocket on the streets, No problems, Ice colds air in the summer had it til Feb 2005, some lady yacking on a cell phone, blew thru a stop sign and T-boned me and totaled my baby ,78K miles, miss my GC !!

@@Dankcatvacs I think it was around 120-140k or so

@@Dankcatvacs - had a few 318's (5.2) 1970 Coronet with over 400,000 miles on it. 1971 Satellite Sebring Plus with a 318 and drove it from CO through IA doing triple digits, no problem. I could've done a cannonball run with that car. Also had a 318 in a '74 Duster. And a 318 in a 1974 Dodge factory custom van. and a 1999 Dodge Durango

@@d.s7741 I love the 318 (5.2), Amazing motor and unstoppable if fluids are maintained. I have a 97 Dakota with it.

The 4.0 inline v6 is one of the most reliable engines of all time

Same! I had mine for 12 years, and it never let me down once. It always started, always got me where I wanted to go. 165k on it when got rid of it, and the only reason I got rid of it was because the body was falling apart. Motor and tranny were perfect.

How much do they go for nowadays? Bought a 99 Exploder for 800 bucks. Drove it for 2 years then sold it for 2k. 😅

@@angelgjr1999 That's a good return on Investment! I think $2000 gets you a pretty decent 1st gen. Mint examples in my area (when you can find them) top out at $5k

Vintage?! I'm old. 🤔

Be Careful not to roll it over

@@jakey20022 Good tires and wheel spacers would help a lot. Used to have a RWD 99 Exploder, loved to drift it around the school parking lot. I Miss it.

Still are

The 5.9 was only offered in 98 and not many were made

@@account4info That's what I remember, thanks for the confirmation.

We had a 92 white xlt 2wd from 96 till 2000 when I was little and I couldn't believe how small it is compared to my moms 2010 buick enclave. I would love to have a first gen in white with a coyote or godzilla swap

What are you smoking the those 4r’s gave tons of problems it’s hard to even find some one who wants to rebuild them

No doubt. TFL needs to acquire one and impress us all.

stock for stock a sidekick isn’t winning anything off-road. Toyota or a Nissan is king and their twice as expensive as a 90s Jeep

That would be cool!

@@TFLclassics yes, please! A wagon and a 2 door, please!

There’s channels on RU-vid that supercharge the 4.0 and 5.0 explorers. Pretty neat stuff.

I remember our 1999 jgc limited with the 4.7l v8 with Quadra-Drive had a 4 speed trans but it had two different seconds gears when downshifting or something

@@tdub25 That's right, I remember those. It was a 5 speed auto, but operated as a 4 speed under normal operation. Had a second 2nd gear ratio just for highway passing that it would kick down to when you punched it.

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@@tdub25 thats what made them so quick

It was probably the 5.2L V8 as the 5.9L was only available in 1998. The 5.9 also only came in three colors (black, white, and grey) with chrome badging and silver wheels. I also had a white with gold '93 GC Limited, but it had the 4.0L...it was pretty sweet too.

@@aaronw8606 Ah, your right then it was the 5.2L. yea if it would have been my choice I would have gotten the 4 liter over the v8.

The grand Cherokee is still fairly luxury for American brand

@Sidney Sanders it’s not that “some say”, and the tire pressure isn’t on the VIN tag. The door stickers absolutely said 26 psi. It’s not a rumor, it’s fact. This was 100% intentional by Ford, and not recommended by Firestone.

Also, there are many years of the Explorer that are trash.

The first gen explorer has the ttb front axle borrowed from the ranger. Often don't get the off road respect they deserve. 90-94 with the 4.0 came with a Dana 35 center and Dana 44 1/2 shafts. The u joints are the same size as the 1/2 ton trucks/broncos. Pretty strong stock setup for an suv.

Agreed. Just because people are willing to buy it doesn't mean anything. Most of these late 80s to early 90s cars are CHEAP brittle metals and even back then didn't sell for much.

you need some mile marker hubs to assume the dana 35 ttbs full potential off road LOL

Almost all Fords have bad front hubs. It's rare to have proper 4wd. Even my 2003 50k mile f150 didn't have 4wd because a hub failed to lock in. After replacing both hubs, 4wd was back in action.

Yeah I was watching it and it looked like he did the obstacles in 2wd. Still impressive tho

The Jeep is a unibody. Also it probably isn't AWD, there were options for different transfer cases.