We own 2 of these. 1 is a 2014 with 125k miles and a heavily modified ecodiesel that we routinely trip through the hills, take hunting, tow the boat, atv, etc... Only gotten it stuck 2 times and that was in snow up to the door handle... still got out under it's own power by the end of the day. The other is a 2016 v6 overland with all the bells n whistles and 60k miles. The overland edition has become our primary family vehicle now as the air suspension rides smoother than the 3" lift and 33's on the ecodiesel and it is quieter too. Both have their place and both will last us another 8 years easily. The best all around do anything SUVs out there. Prove me wrong!
Thanks for the 100,000k overview, Brad. I bought my '12 WK2 Overland last year with about 172k mi. It's got a Hemi, Quadra-Drive II, Air Lift, etc, pretty much loaded the same as yours except for the rear passenger entertainment system. No major issues so far, ✊😄knock on wood. Also, I'd enjoy seeing your video about changing the Hemi's spark plugs. I need to change mine soon.
@@alejandracampis1516 The check engine light came on recently. Needs a tune up (spark plugs), and an oil change. It's got an oil lead from the cylinder head and oil pan gaskets too. Otherwise, it's still running well, everything works. But then I'm pretty easy my vehicles. I'm thinking about just having a complete engine overhaul done.
We have an '18 TH with the 6 and absolutely love it. We have 78k and have had no issues. We have towed U-Haul trailers to kids college with no issues. Likewise, no complaints about power on the trails. We recently sold our 16 JKU Rubicon because it was so rough on road; amazing on the trails but scary at 65. The GC will do almost everything we did in the JK and the GC is just worlds better on the road and it has more space for our camping gear.
YES! Please do a video on the spark plug replacements!! I am the proud owner of a 2016 Grand Cherokee Overland, with the 5.7 Hemi which I love. I am just passing 152,000 original miles. Lots of upgrades including an aluminum 4 person RTT, off-road heavy duty bumper w/hoop upfront. Getting a winch soon and additional lighting. I lived over half my life in CO, never more than 1.5 hours drive to Moab, been going for 30 years, especially at the right times…when no one is there. I hope to do my doing my plugs asap, I need to know exactly which ones to put in and can I buy them not at the dealership. My Overland is loaded like yours ie heated/cooled front seats, heated rear seats and air, etc. I have spent a pretty penny on upkeep, but it’s running (and looking) very well. I need to do my diff fluids, but unfortunately I have a rear differential seal “seepage” going on. I have been advised to replace that seal, yikes, not too happy about it. Otherwise she runs tight, very. I would prefer not to give up the 5.7l ,V8, Hemi. I love that power, even fully loaded, as I am, always. When she needs to go, she goes…fast. Yet, off-road, she’s a beast. It’s truly amazing what that truck (yes, truck) is capable of. I also have a set of Maxxtrax always up top on the built-in rack on the RTT. DMOS Stealth always on-board to assist with a possible self rescue, offer help to someone else. I can, as you well know, can fit 5 comfortably. Yet, I max out at 2 (maybe 3, tops) for adventures. My rear set 2/3rds is always down, leaving room for 1 passenger in the rear. That leaves plenty of room for everyone…and everything. Have full Eco-Flow solar system rigged up and, when appropriate, use a diesel heater to warm the RTT. Boom 💥, instant 4 season roller. Thanks for the great advice. I am going to do my water pump, proactively, asap, plugs myself. I know I seriously need the new plugs bc my mpg’s have taken a noticeable downturn. Did the full replacements at 85K miles…it’s time. Steering is tight as day 1. I replaced the alternator with a 525amp one from Power Bastards, put in an Optima yellow top and only run 0-w20 Mobil One, changing oil/all filters every 10K (or more) miles. It can take it and I save a ton of dough over time. I take the “pay now” approach, which is why I find your advice so incredibly helpful. Thanks, again and please do that video on the plugs…I gotta get on that asap. Everything is better in a Jeep.
The water pump on my 2011 limited seized around 70,000 miles... didn't help my wife overheated the car by driving home like that. Driver blend door actuator just 💩the bed so that's next. Suspension is clapped out as well, hemi is the only selling point 😂
I enjoy your videos. You mentioned disconnecting the swaybar, I currently have a jeep patriot and when I disconnected the front swaybar it gave about 6 to 8 inches of additional travel which really helps in ride quality offroad and keeps the traction control from engaging constantly. My daughter just bought a wk2 that she's starting a build on.
I have an 11 Hemi overland, put in a new starter, (used) rear differential, and locking motor, now just finding the bad wire which still causes the service 4x4 light to come on it, otherwise has been great! Tons of reserve power, I love my Jeep!
Way to go Brad. Once again you give facts, unlike our news media. We loved our WIIK and will always be a patreon of your channel. You know what we do now. I will say that our WKII was so, WAY more comfortable than our JLU. Just got back from a week at Moab. Kept up on most of the trails... but.. Elephant Hill... OMG. That is for the big boys. I will give you a PM. THanks so much for the video... Best to your lovely family.
I just tuned up my Uncles 2014 Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk 5.7 Hemi and 240,000 Miles,original engine,no major issues...I did all the maintenance! I restore classic cars so sort of know how to work on cars lol.. He had minor issues when new with radio/infotainment system but all covered when new under warranty..Never had engine or trans issues..Hemi waterpumps always go from 70,000-120,000 miles,normal deal.New wheel bearings 160,000'ish...one went bad he decided to do all of them.. Air suspension was replaced at just over 210,000..Wasn't overly expensive considering the Jeep is paid for,so a few items here/there when its paid for is expected and doesn't hurt so much as you have no car payment..The Jeep looks and drives pretty much like new still.. Maint is always done and at 100,000 and 200,000 miles the transmission fluid was changed..ditto transfer case and coolant.
I just hit 100K on my 2016 SRT. Did the recommended service, plus swapped out brand new coil packs. It actually drives better now than it did when I got it 4 years ago.
Awesome breakdown, I have a 2018 4x4 limited with the quadra track II and the only problem I've had was the water pump at 68k miles ( covered under warranty ). I love my WK2 and I also think it looks better than the newer version. I didn't know the spark plugs were that easy to change out. I'm itching to at least try out the 4x4 system on mine. I would like to say that you and your families videos have really been a great help. Thank you again for your help and fantastic offroading videos.
My 2013 Overland (V8 quadradrive) now at 136K miles. Have had quite a few failures, but nothing catastrophic. I just finished retrofitting an OME suspension and was able to fit 33" tires on stock wheels with spidertrax spacers. My air suspension did not fail, the front struts were shot. New struts would only be warrantied if you replaced the rear air bags and pump at the same time. Air suspensions are generally designed for 100k miles of use. The swap was very straightforward, and all you get is a message at startup. If you ever come out and just the front is low, it's the brass and plastic elbows at the top of the struts. But at this point Id seriously think about going OME. The rear ELSD motor went out on mine when it was 4 years old. I found a new OEM motor (made in poland iirc) for under $400. The old one was corroded inside. I added extra grease to the new one and coated it with cosmoline. Very easy to replace. Also had a clunk since about 110k miles, it was the front upper control arm bushings. Replaced with Rocky Road HD. Now the front lower control arms are clunking a little...
Cheers to you and your Fam…been a viewer for a while…I am glad to see the Rig is holding up for you and providing some real Memories…as that is we can Hope for in the End…Come on 200 miles of Fun and Adventure with a Fam👊🇺🇸👊
Thanks Brad. I'm a nobody but walking the fence on a really clean 2016 GCL 3.6 with just over 41k miles. Heated comforts of home, remote start, one owner (from my home town) that i just might be test driving with the next day ir two. Dout you have time to check all your emails but figured id throw a dart at the wall and see if you, or anyone had an opinion. Stumbled across your videos a couple days ago jhst trying to learn a bit more as i move along at a snail's pace. Ha! I'm only interested in the commuter comforts of the vehicle as i do most if my daily commutes on two wheel... '23 bmw GSA. THE GCL most likely wont see 3500 miles a year and only during our 3 snow fall months. I'm a maintenance man, shade tree mechanic at heart and carr more about my bikes, dogs, and parents than i do my self. Ha! You guys make the 4x4 scene look very enticing however I'll continue being the guy that pulls a dirtbike to the droozone and wacth y'all from a safe distance. Hahaha! Really you and the family have life in a headlock man. Keep smiling and safe travels in your journey.
I have an ’07 JGC WK with 3.0 diesel with QD II. I am at 210,000 miles, just had oil cooler replaced (major job…). Driven cross country, i live in MD, five round trips since 2019. I have a two inch lift, 265/70 r17 tires, rock sliders for going offroad. Driven 95% of trails around las vegas and phoenix, except for one level 6 trail, no problems… The only problem/issue - new, if any, after market off road bits and pieces… Hard time finding steel winch bumpers, rear bumpers and skid plates… Too bad, great truck that keeps on going - like diesel locomotives.
Fyi, I saw on a The Fast Lane (TFL) that showed how the air suspension will not engage when the GC has too much of a tilt. In the video, once the GC got somewhat level the air suspension worked perfectly. Hope this info helps!
Otis, my 2020 JGC TH had the same problem in a rather steep slope trying to engage the air suspension to Off-road II level (rock mode) with Brad being my spotter; I forget where and on which trail we were at the time, but once I backed down a bit to a more or less level ground it did engage. It was Brad who suggested that and he was right!
If you're having any issues at all with the air suspension in sub-freezing temps, it's almost 100% because the system took on some atmospheric air to make up for a loss of the high purity nitrogen that it was filled with from the factory. The moisture in atmospheric air freezes, so it can easily cause cold weather issues. The simple fix is to have the system refilled with high purity nitrogen.
We have a 2011 GC in addition to the 2021 GC Trailhawk. The 2011 has 160k on it and going strong. When I test drove the 21, it didn’t feel much different than the 11, which is a testament to how well they hold up. Haven’t had any more air suspension issues since our trip to Rausch Creek. Hope it stays that way…😂
Excellent review, Brad! Thanks for this informative video. May you and family have many more years of uninterrupted and smooth use of your (by now…legendary!) Grand Cherokee! BTW, it was your very early videos that cemented my decision then to purchase my 2016 JGC Overland Trail Rated (which I shipped and use in Greece) and my 2020 JGC Trailhawk (both V6, 3.6 lit) with which I have joined you in and enjoyed tremendously four or five (?) of your outings in the States. Both with no modifications to this day, except the MOPAR rock rails in the TH. P.S. Oh, yes…thankfully no problems or issues so far; except that punctured tire in one of those outings, which I am sure you remember well! As do I! LOL
Thanks for the review, good job. The spark plug story is encouraging; I had no idea there were two per cylinder. Mine is an '18 TH 5.7 with about 46K miles. After a pinhole radiator leak (new radiator installed under warranty), I've had no issues. For me, the '18 is a great combination of new tech and old school. And don't forget, WK2 TH's come with the SRT seats, a big upgrade from the standard GC seats in every other trim level (except SRT of course). I doubt there's any different seats in the new one.
My 2020 GC High Altitude 5.7 was having a terrible sound in the transfer case upon start up. Noticeable when using remote start. Or when shifting out of park into any gear. Sounds like a diesel when doing that. 34k miles. Also ACC/FCW eye in front is going out. In the shop estimated 1 month after two weeks already there. My loaner is a new Gladiator RUBICON! I’m in love with it! They do that on purpose haha.
New WL model has no Hemi V8 and only 4Xe Trail Hawk model. Only V6. New model is very nice but more expensive and choice of 2 or 3 rows of seats. I have last year of WK2 (2022), which was manufactured for 11 years - parts for ever. I traded in my 2016 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited manual transmission for more than I paid for it. Wrangler holds its' value more than GC, but no comparison is comfort and drivability. In a recent highway trip, I got 27 mpg with a driving range of almost 600 miles / tank. If I was buying a new model, I would spring for the Overland model with air suspension for extra lift. Love your channel - you are good people. I have QT-II. You can still get V8 in Durango - which may be a good option.
Thanks for this video, Brad. I've got a 2018 WK2TH sames as yours and QL failure is FRONT of mind for me, not back. I just got back from a Baja trip I planned for 9 months. After only 3 days, my Baja trip was over due to a blown air spring. One of two things will happen before my next big trip: either I delete the QL altogether or delete the WK2 entirely and buy a Gladiator.
Have an '18 Hemi TH in white, same packages sans the rear screens. 85k on the odometer and no mods. I do have the Mopar Tube rails to install. Had a speed sensor go and an EGR issue, both covered under the Mopar Lifetime Warranty. Your 100k video is encouraging. I plan on keeping this as long as it runs. I also have an XJ that I've been working on, that's the reason for not modding what I have the TH. Still, I get the itch now and then. With all the armor you have, how much of a hit on mpg did you take?
Have the same vehicle except in the V6 ---- only two problems since purchase: Air suspension system compressor replaced around 2K miles and now, last couple of weeks, the delamination and effect on infotainment system. Latter is like a demonic possession of all things controlled by the infotainment system. Other than that mentioned --- one of the better vehicles I have owned. Great videos --- enjoy all I watch!
You must have a 2018 model, as that's the only year that has screen delamination issues. Even if you're out of warranty, they'll most likely replace it for no cost.
@@Japplesnap Thanks for comment got replaced under extended warranty with 100.00 deductible. They (at least this dealership) would not straight replace. Original OEM was like 1250 plus labor or an aftermarket SONY for 850 plus labor.
I have a 2014 GC with the Diesel. I agree with you regarding the towing. It “can” tow big & heavy, but it doesn’t mean you should. I’ve had 1 issue with the air suspension, a blown airbag and warranty covered it. With the Diesel, the only issue I’ve had was at -40F and the exterior sensor read it wrong and tried to run the def and burned out the pump. As to cold, I live in Interior Alaska where we see -30F to -60F on a regular basis, and no issues with the air suspension, or any other component with exception to what I mentioned above. As to off-road, I have the Summit edition, and mines been all over Alaska including the Stampede trail (into the wild Trail with the Bus), it goes everywhere my other Jeep can go, only with a much better ride. I agree these are great vehicles! As to the articulation, it’ll never be great, even with the sway bar disconnect due to these being independent suspension on a unibody. If you want the big articulation, you’ve got to get a solid axle. Anyway, thanks again for all the fun content, and keep having fun.
wk2 the first SUV on a welded-in frame / integrated frame, which is higher in terms of strength than the classic frame like on trucks / Wrengler) Torsional strength margin Very high mechanical strength and service life especially chassis/suspension
talking with dealer Australia intresting thing know)) about wk2 This generation of grand cherokee wk2 on a solid frame, the new wl is no longer available, the dealer in Australia sent me with regards to the welded frame in wk2: Monocoque Body with Built-in Ladder Frame They say that superior off-road handling capability could only come at the expense of on-road smoothness. They have obviously never driven grand cherokee . By incorporating a lightweight and highly rigid monocoque body with a built-in ladder frame that provides added resistance to torsion and flexing and fixing them atop a dynamic independent suspension, Grand cherokee achieves an unprecedented combination of all-terrain control and luxury-sedan comfort. For added durability, grand cherokee now makes more extensive use of galvanized steel body panels, while the new aluminum hood panel reduces weight for better handling.
I agree with being sceptical about the "lifetime" transmission fluid. Other manufacturers use basically the same zf trans, and they actually have service intervals for replacing the fluid I have heard. Would you guys have ever considered a GX460 instead of the grand Cherokee?
On trans delay you can reset the tcm by using key in off and run sequence this will reset also you can reser throttle body. Goggle on resetting tcm and also tbs I've done my trailhawk couple times already. The computer re inize different drivers. 2015 trailhawk so far no problems other than those 2 resets that only happens after I drive it my wife drives it 98% of time. Absolutely buy another
Just for grits shins I put a cold air intake from K&N on our 3.6.. awesome! Fuel economy improved about 5 mpg, gained just a few ponies; it is noticeable. And the sound at acceleration?.. oh yeah.. even being the V6, it's nice! All told, it was $350 well spent! Get it! Your hemi will love it! Our main complaints are the hard ride in OR2. Even deflated down to 17psi, it was harsh on old bones. Second issue is the UConnect system. Ugh! It's gone out twice in 3 years. Even the dealer says it's one of their biggest problems. But... love the thing? Oh yeah.. all day and every night!
Paid 36 000$ 3 years ago for 2018 limited luxury II with extended warranty as well. For Canada was a good price lol 😂 I was looking for the new one XE trailhawk here it's 84000 😮
Great overview! Love your content! I have a 17 trailhawk with 99k and about to do the spark plugs. Would love to see an install video. Did you go with the mopar spark plugs? Also did you have to verify the spark plug gap before install?
Thank you for this update Brad! You have inspired me to seriously consider the Trailhawke. Right now, been tossed between a GX460 and this! If I’m not mistaken the GX460 also has an air ride system. Not sure how off road worthy is the GX460 compared to JGC. It’s certainly more thirsty compared to the V6 version. Also I’m very interested in the air suspension reliability compared to the JKC. Maybe you can look into a video on that subject. Thank you again for this update video
Thanks for this video. Can you tell me more about the electrical gremlins? I have 2010 Liberty with 250,00ish miles and I'm looking at a 2018 Trail Hawk with 90,636 miles and they're asking $23,499 (crazy). Anyway... I've had electrical gremlins with my Liberty and when they hit, they drove me crazy! I think they realized that I wan't going to give up and they moved one to haunt someone else. My gremlins would make the all of the 4WH, 4WL and Service 4WD lights come on at once, and then they'd go off and repeat.
Got my 2017 gc trail hawk last month and have the warranty. What I have noticed is that crazy start stop message will keep popping up and saying it’s malfunctioned which I don’t mind because I turn it off every time I drive. Maybe battery under passenger seat has low voltage? Anyways love it. Love how it adjusts the ride height depending on how fast you go
I have a 2012 Overland Summit with 130k mi. The Quadralift air is kinda nice but has cost me a lot in grief and stupid costly repair and got my fingers crossed that I don't have further problems forcing me to install a normal suspension.
Great TH I love that color! I’m looking at a Velvet Red Garnet ‘18 now. What size tires are you running on that and what’s the minimum air suspension setting for them. I’m running 245/75 15’s on my ‘05 5.7 limited right now and would like to swap them on if I can. Also running the bronze anniversary rims off of a 16 Rubicon that I’d love to keep. Great video and awesome grand!
Hi Brad, Great video!!! Just wondering what engine oil temp you get when towing? Somedays, it gets up to 125c on mine. I think it is a bit too high for the hemi? Mine is 2014 GC overload 5.7
Nice video , if I have a problem I always check your videos 😅, had you had problems with fan being too loud , my Wk2 trailhawk I feel it runs transmission temperature too hot 228F on regular driving no towing , is this the temperature you ever had when not off road?
Know overland 3.6 2014 has now 428.500 кm, no problem , my trailhawk 3.6 2020 year has 120 .000 km no problem!! Very high mechanical strength and service life especially chassis/suspension has wk2 grand cherokee
@@MrKozanitis I live in Russia big country)) We drive a lot in extreme conditions bad climates harsh winters bad expensive ones, a friend of mine has a grand cherokee wk2”3.6 overland 2014 440.000 km mileage
@@MrKozanitis I note that American SUVs are suitable for our winters! Very reliable grand cherokee wrangler chevrolet tahoe, the only one who was not reliable on expeditions was ford explorer 2018
2022 WL trailhawk not having qd2 was a typo according to my dealership. Stickers said qt2 but there system on the ones they looked up said they still had qd2
Great video Brad. Just what I was looking for as I have 97k miles on my 2015 Limited trail rated edition. Truck has been great until recently. New radiator at 84k miles and recently had to fix the AC condenser and oil filter housing. Ten days later check engine light with EVAP code P0456. Leak with purge line cracked. Anyone else have these issues? I love the truck and really want to keep it. I am also worried about the air suspension.
Own a 2011 Overland which I purchased 5 years ago with 140K on it. Now just under 200K and it's going nowhere until I replace the rear differential. Probably my fault due to three 4500+ mile road trips all three during 100+ degree summer weather and I'll just say speed limits; shouldn't. (new diff = 3700 dealer quote just to throw it out there, have yet to decide if and how I'll replace it). Never had any issues with the air suspension. Did have to replace the oil pressure sending unit and the oil filter housing/cooler which is made of plastic; evidently a design flaw as this part seems to crack, requiring replacement (expensive if you do not diy).
Hi Brad, just wondering what engine oil temp you get when towing? Somedays, it gets up to 125c on mine. I think it is a bit unsafe for the hemi? 2014 GC overload 5.7
Hi Brad, I have the 2021 limited V8.With 29,000 mi. No issues, but I can feel a slight vibration in the steering wheel just before it up shifts in the 50-55 mph range on level highway. During a slow acceleration. Any thoughts? Also, great videos. I watch them all.
Hi Brad, I have a 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and I just hit 60k miles on it. I’m going to take it to the mechanic shop next week, and I was wondering what services need to be done now that I’ve hit 60k miles on it? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Brad. We have a 21 WK2 Overland with the Quadra Drive system and all the bells and Whistles, and V-6. We are seriously looking at the Winnebago 1808 micro light trailer. It comes in at about 3700 lbs unloaded and fully loaded at 5,000. From what you’ve seen, do you think we will be able to tow that trailer without being stranded in the slowest lane going 35 mph up the Sierra grades such as hwy 395 north of Bishop Ca..? Oh, just my wife and I with perhaps Kayaks on top. I know you have the V-8, but perhaps you have discussed something like that this with friends. Thx! Oh, the 1808 is 20 feet long.
Thank you so much for this video and I’m hoping to get your thoughts here. I am currently looking at buying a 2020 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk that is fully loaded with everything!! Only thing it lacks is the V8 engine. But it’s in prime condition and very clean. My question on if you think it’s worth it, is it has 38k on it right now and with the higher prices, they now want $44 and of course there is no negotiating since that’s the new dealership way. I just don’t know is it worth that price for the mileage, the V6 and just knowing it is going to cost me about $5k over what trade in value on it would currently be sitting at. So close to wanting it and love everything about it, but is it worth it??
Hi, Brad! Thanks for your video. What is the real gasoline consumption of 5,7HEMI over long term period? From your words, it seems, overall reliability is pretty fine. Considering getting one of these here in Russia. But hear very controversial feedback and therefore not sure yet.
Привет, мой по городу жрет 10-12 mpg, хайвей 20-22. Город у меня со сплошными светлофорами, и я люблю давить в тапок, и выключаю функцию «отключения 4-ех цилиндров» . Жрет нормально так, но проблем небыло никаких, использую машину жестко. 40к миль уже
The drawback for Quadra Drive2 is explained pretty well here, if you have quadra Drive2 you'll have to put up with the buggy air suspension system... I've seen this guy doing pretty extreme stuff, for my use case, I think that a Quadra Trac2 will be good enough. Thank you!
Hey I got a 14 5.7 gc overland and your engine sounds identical to mine do you notice a slightly low whistle sound from the left of engine? I think I hear it in the video, I just wanted to make sure it was normal
Funny I've reached 100k km last week (the 100k thing,km or miles, really is a psychological limit 😅)..Grand Cherokee have always been expensive here in Europe..my 2012 Limited diesel with 190hp had a price tag of 55000€ in Italy back then
I'm looking at a 2010 V8 limited (yes the ugly interior one) they are becoming harder to find. I avoided a newer one because 2011-2015 are riddled with issues and 2016-2022 are still 20% more $ than they should be imo. I definitely appreciated the direction on quada drive/trac and the air ride. I don't need drive for snowy roads in Michigan. The air ride is a no go for me. It's $2300 to replace. That's a lot of covered work holy shit!? Does your wife ever drive it in sport mode?
Hey Brad, i was wondering if by any chance you could share how much you paid for the mopar extended warranty if you remember if not it's all good, much appreciated! Have a great day!
@@ProdigalOverland thank you! My other question is, not sure if you found your jeep at a Jeep dealership or not but if lets say a jeep was at like a nissan or ford dealership than you would have to go to a Jeep dealership to buy the mopar extended warranty right not at the dealership its at/or your buying it from?...
@@MrKozanitis sweet thanks! Im just not familiar with extended warranties or buying cars from a dealership.. I have heard that they try to sell you extra stuff but you gotta be careful about the fine print so that's why im trying to get as much info as i can about this kind of stuff, so thank you much appreciated.
Just searched new GC's in my area, and none of the Trailhawks have Quadra Drive. All Quadra-Trac II, and I can't even find the option in the new car configurator to upgrade the system.
Have you ever had the serv 4wd light flashing and once u turn the engine off then turn it on again it will disappear then later it would flash and same thing happens?
Nice vid. I just purchased a 2019 GC trailhawk in the slate blue. It’s a V-6 but has all the trimmings and I paid 32k with my trade in. It only had 10K miles so I think I got a good deal😊
Triggered! Also the inflation started under trump. But in the end wasn't really any party's fault, it was repercussions of the pandemic(which could have been handled much better initially). Nice try though. Keep watching Faux Noise and let your mind rot.. Ill be acceptions apologies from trump voters and Faux News viewers after Faux's 800 million dollar admission of guilt in spreading lies and falsehoods.