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JEET KUNE DO: Beyond Wing Chun | Unveiling the Distinctive Path 

Thomas Marx - Original Jeet Kune Do IFO
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Dive into the intricate world of martial arts as we dissect the unique aspects that set Jeet Kune Do apart from its roots in Wing Chun. Join us on a journey of exploration and understanding as we uncover the distinctions that make Jeet Kune Do a distinct and evolving martial art. Discover the philosophy, techniques, and principles that showcase the path of Jeet Kune Do, demonstrating why it stands as a separate entity, distinct from its Wing Chun origins. Whether you're a martial arts enthusiast or a curious observer, this video offers valuable insights into the fascinating realm of Jeet Kune Do and its departure from Wing Chun.
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Комментарии : 35   
@cristobalvalladares973
@cristobalvalladares973 10 месяцев назад
I grew up in a rough neighborhood in Brooklyn. Self defense has been a life long obsession. Don't know much about martial arts, but jkd appears to be the most practical for the chaos of a street fight. Appreciate your videos. Bruce Lee must have had some street experience. The principals outlined will work. Curious about his philosophy now.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
When Bruce was young living in Hong Kong during his early teenage years, he was in a gang called Tigers of Junction street. knife crime was very popular during that time. Every gang carried knives including Bruce himself. If there is one thing Bruce knew better than any professional sports fighter, it’s the reality of self defence and how quickly things can go bad. His experience with knives and being around that sort of thing gave him a reality check. Something a lot of combat sport guys lack.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
"If somebody attacks you, your response is not Technique No. I, Stance No. 2, Section 4, Paragraph 5. Instead, you simply move in like sound and echo, without any deliber-ation. It is as though, when I call you, you answer me, or when I throw something at you, you catch it. It's as simple as that, no fuss, no muss." - Bruce Lee (Black Belt magazine, 1967)
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
Great video Thomas. It is true people see what they want to see. “Some principles might also apply to wing chun but the application is totally different” You hit the nail on the head with that.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@walterevans2118I agree
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@walterevans2118 people see what they want to see don’t they? As Thomas said in the video. Bias makes it even worse.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@walterevans2118 it really is terrible that instead of just being honest about what Bruce was doing and they he can’t really teach it himself because he doesn’t know how to do it, Inosanto has just continued this narrative for the last 50 years. If he just said. I’ll be honest. I can’t do what Bruce did. I can’t even teach it because I can’t do it. What I can show you is early Seattle period stuff and Jun fan gung fu, but JKD went into areas I never had the attributes to do myself. I can’t teach something I can’t do, therefore I can’t even demonstrate it. But instead hes just pushed the whole mixed art thing and made it out that JKD is basically the same as Jun can gung fu essentially.
@robertvondarth1730
@robertvondarth1730 10 месяцев назад
Most people don’t know about the changes from Jun Fan Gung Fu to JKD
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
Seems a lot of people think it’s the same thing
@Wolfgath
@Wolfgath 10 месяцев назад
Wing Chun itself was created by taking techniques from several existing Chinese styles, it invented nothing new, only compiled elements from other arts into a new one.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
Ah man, 19 hours!
@andreaskyriacou8646
@andreaskyriacou8646 10 месяцев назад
I love jkd i study but many say is not good art in street and I disagree😮, jkd❤❤❤
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
It was developed for the street. Whoever says this is dumb.
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 10 месяцев назад
Its what ever you want it to be😂. Wasn't Bruce genius? "I created a style, that is what ever anyone wants it to be.", JKD 2023
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 🤣
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO “why hit the target when you can catch his arms, spin him around in a circle and then try to trip and grapple him for 5 minutes” - Bruce Lee (2023)
@albert20001000
@albert20001000 10 месяцев назад
Who Did You study Under For JKD? Thomas Marx!
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 10 месяцев назад
Its in the description of the channel.
@josephperkins4857
@josephperkins4857 10 месяцев назад
Hmm and yet Dan inasanto stated in February 1988 issue of Inside Kung Fu, in this column In the 20th century, article Jun Fan: liberation part 1, " there's pretty much the indication that Bruce's initial modification's was to develop a more long range form of Wing Chun
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 10 месяцев назад
Well, there was no jkd yet. That was still just modified WC and the modifications were more because of WCs stability issues. We are talking about jkd which came later and, which couldn't be more different from wc, than it is.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
I like dan he seems like a really nice guy. Very knowledgeable. But he’s never showed anything that resembles Bruce’s movement or how to apply Bruce’s methods outside of wing chun oriented stuff. I’ve never him show fencing footwork and he’s admitted on camera a lot of what Bruce did he can’t do himself. So if you can’t do it how can you teach it.
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 10 месяцев назад
I really think he wasn't really interested in Bruce's approach at the end of the day. He is more the classical martial arts guy, just teaching bunch of those. He was really lucky being in Game of Death, so people recognised him and he could monetise that.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO he has definitely benefited from knowing Bruce and I’m sure he has made some money from it. He’s had a lot of students over the years. I think you are right. Dan really like the culture and history around martial arts and will learn something just to learn it because he likes the look of it. Whilst Bruce just wasn’t interested in it if it wasn’t useful for him for practical self defence.
@RealAustinMartin
@RealAustinMartin 2 месяца назад
I am no expert, but there is a whip-like body mechanic that I can do with a wing-chun straight punch that I can’t do with any hook; it’s absurdly faster. I can and do use hooks, too. That said, I don’t see wing chun as being nearly so rigid as implied - it’s more like an index of ideal body mechanics. So it makes sense to me that it lends itself extremely well to adaptations, but is not meant for practical use without deviations from the rigid practice forms, which are meant to teach unusual motions and moments of inertia. I think it is meant to be practical, a glossary of movements & mechanics that can give an edge, but should not be set into rigid combinations. More like water - less like a sculpture. It also embraces the philosophy of attacking first, and rejects blocking. The formalism is unavoidable in any style - so I agree that a lot of people out there are teaching it “wrong” - but that’s also part of the art, I suppose. I really liked your take, despite the shade on wing-chun - and despite my disagreement with your premise. Very interesting to think about.
@SuperMaryu767
@SuperMaryu767 10 месяцев назад
Wing chun people like most traditionalist will hold onto the style to try to make it work. One time I read that to make the chain punching effective is to turn your hip into it and I was thinking how? 🤣
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 10 месяцев назад
Imagine turning the hip left and right multiple times in a second. How much can you turn... 2 degrees every time?
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
“I’ll smoke Tommy Carruthers in under 10 seconds!” 👀
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO
@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 10 месяцев назад
By falling down and rolling him over😂🤣
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO 🤣
@QuickmixProductions
@QuickmixProductions 10 месяцев назад
Why so long?
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 10 месяцев назад
@@QuickmixProductions someone else said it 👀 but that’s a great response
@franktidwell8392
@franktidwell8392 10 месяцев назад
Excellent
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