I am old enough to remember when Cooper was active. I always felt he made significant contributions to moving defensive hand-gunning away from Bullseye paced techniques and ridiculous crouch shooting. His column in Guns and Ammo was occasionally awful, though I certainly did love it when he ripped Soviet/Russian policy. As for this video, the cop reloading his Model 19 with a classic Dade loader was smooth. Well done!
"White, Yellow, Orange, Red" ... thanks for that, Col. Cooper. I go about the world every day using those guidelines to keep my head on a swivel and get me back home ... I called Gunsite back in the '90's for some class information and guess who picked up the phone down in Paulden AZ ... ??? That's right, Jeff Cooper himself ... 😁 He graciously gave me about 20-25 minutes of his time on the call and squared me away on the questions I had ... and then he asked me if I'd ever had any "advanced" training ... I said "yes" and he responded something to the effect of: "Well then .. you must come down to Gunsite and go through our course ... tell you what, since you're former Navy, I'll give you a discount ... and I'll send you a copy of my book 'To Ride, Shoot Straight and Speak the Truth' tomorrow ... " And he did ... and I did. And he was the consummate professional, a legendary teacher and marksman, and always a gentleman. RIP Colonel Cooper ...
It had to be in the early 90’s cuz’ Cooper sold Gunsite to Rich Jee in 1992’. Circa August/September of 1993 they had an epic dust up and depending on which side your on (Cooper Orange or Jee Gray) either Cooper petulantly broke his contract with Jee and exiled himself from Gunsite OR Jee told Cooper he just couldn’t get on his Honda trike and drive into impact areas as he pleased and banned him from the facility when Cooper wouldn’t stop doing so.
One of the best instructors ever. My grandfather was a phoenix, police officer. He shared a 357 magnum, his whole time and I have never was able to shoot as good as him. My great grandfather was a sure and Missouri. It is a family history that that people he knew with challenging. To out, shoot him he was known to be able to drive nails with his revolver. My grandfather and father made me shoot the primer out of the shotgun shell. Before I was allowed to carry a cylon or rifle.
As young cops we heard that our issued .38 was inadequate but you couldn’t prove that by me. When I was forced to use my issued revolver it always did its job.
My grandfather had been a lawman and won gunfights. He had a mentor who once stated of the .38 Special: "Every sumbitch I ever shot with my .38 tended to stay good and shot."
bonjour magnifique vidéo avec documents d'archives de cette époque ce jeff cooper une sacré tireur et connaisseur des armes a feux j'avoue que je le connaissais pas mais grâce a votre partage je commence connaitre cette légende du monde des armes vraiment homme intéressant ses explications son simples précise et vrais quand on est obligé de défendre sa vie on ressent l'expérience dans ses propos merci de se partage cordialement
Excellent! Always nice to see some instruction from Col. Cooper. I have never seen this one before. Police departments almost all use the 9mm now, a weapon Cooper detested.
Massad Ayoob wrote an interesting article about Cooper and 9mm. Speculating on whether modern ammo choices would have changed his opinion, had they been available in his formative years. Cooper loved the Hi-Power, just not it's cartridge. He liked the .38 super with HP, but lamented it's nearly unobtainable nature.
9mm ball ammo back in his day kinda sucked. It was made for the artillery Luger, a pistol with an extended barrel. And indeed it worked well enough from that pistol and in submachine guns that also tend to have long barrels (and put 2-10 rounds in a target). But out of a 3" or 4" barrel automatic pistol it was meh. It would still kill if it hit the brain or the heart - just like a .22lr. But if the shooter didn't hit those an attacker had plenty of life left to do what he wanted. Modern +P hollow point loads are a different matter entirely.
@@EricDaMAJ9mm ball ammo (the original 9mm Parabellum cartridge) was made for the Luger, all variants. Ball ammo in any caliber lacks expansion like hollowpoints and the like. Ball ammo penetrates deeper and that is a good thing is some situations. But it is what you can use in war since the Hague Convention of 1899 forbids expanding bullets use in war.
Nice video, thanks. Cooper changed the handgunning game and brought it to the next level of practicality and beyond. I have seen his 'four rules of gun safety' on gun ranges all over the planet. Not sure why folks have to make others into Gurus, but pay little attention to the naysayers that have to lower the contribution of others to make themselves feel big. The Fudd statement is one of those indoctrinated soundbites that reduce critical thinking skills....like anti science-vax-semite or conspiracy theorist and dismiss any nonapproved opinion that runs contrary to the accepted, hyped narrative. But whatever floats your boat.
Thanks for watching. Yep. Many people try to discredit Cooper for various reasons, but the fact remains, that he probably contributed more to modern combat handgun doctrine than any other single individual.
This is my final word on this subject because in the words of Thomas Paine, “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” No matter what I say, blind fanatics will be blind fanatics. Let’s get something straight here. I WAS a Jeff Cooper fan for years. That’s why I took instruction from him at the American Pistol Institute. And I learned a lot from his instruction. But I NEVER bought into the blind fanaticism of so many of his followers. I’ve been called a “liar” because one of his acolytes doesn’t believe what happened at the SOF convention? OK-that’s your right. You don’t believe it because you’ve never read anything about it? Yeah, nobody wanted to talk about it because they didn’t want to embarrass Jeff Cooper. Just like nobody wanted to talk about Bill Jordan killing a fellow officer at the time when it happened. Nobody knew about this because the information was stifled. Just like when SOF’s big weapons “expert” Peter Kokalis used to run around telling people he was an “assassin” in southeast Asia and I quote: “I became a photo instructor at Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, and then volunteered for technical intelligence and "wet affairs" in Cambodia. There was no photography associated with this latter work“ (from his bio cameraquest.com/combatph.htm) . Now I used to know Peter Kokalis and he was an abysmal marksman-but try telling that to his fan base who bought into his “tactiCOOL” hero image groomed by the gun media. When I pointed out that Kokalis couldn’t hit the ground if he dropped his rifle I got EXACTLY the same reaction from his strap hangers that you Cooper followers are howling. These gun celebrities have an image that neither the gun media companies nor their fan base wants tarnished so willing fools believe this nonsense. In the case of Cooper I’ve personally seen him stand in front of a room full of dedicated fans and because he was in a bad mood caustically insulted them for no reason. And you know what? Nobody said a peep (and I’m ashamed to say neither did I) nor was it ever “printed” in any of his writings-or anybody else’s. Yeah, Cooper did some very positive things-such as founding The American Pistol Institute at Gunsite. Cooper also advocated some very good techniques-like the “Modern Technique” which I learned and still use. But he also did and advocated some really stupid crap and if you fanatics can’t face the truth about your “hero” Jeff Cooper maybe you should look deep into your character and find out why you need a hero so badly because it sounds like you have some manner of self-esteem issue at play. And again, how many of you Cooper fans ever even TRAINED UNDER HIM?🤷♀
Now that both parties, and all candidates(except Ron and Rand Paul), work for a small nation, founded in 1947, we sure could use a man like Jeff Cooper! And screw you Commies who put him down!
Please make a video about the time the Jeff Cooper’s personal Scout rifle had a negligent discharge inside a convention hall well, he was giving a lecture about the scout rifles use in combat at a Soldier of Fortune convention in Las Vegas.
@@WeaponsAffair OK here it is-and I heard it straight from the mouth of one of the guys who was there who actually saw and heard it: Peter Kokalis. It was also confirmed to me by another gentleman who was present who asked my to keep his name anonymous. Jeff Cooper created that Scout Rifle PRIMARILY as a weapon for a lone military scout to use in front of friendly lines and it’s SECONDARY function as an all-purpose rifle. He stated that in writing and I’ve heard that from his own lips whilst standing in his gun vault in the Sconce. Now, one lone guy going out in enemy country with a bolt action rifle? Yes, as stupid as it sounds but that’s what Cooper designed it for. Anyways in 1998 the Kosovo War kicked off in the Balkans and somehow terrorists of the KLA i.e. the “Kosovo Liberation Army” got their hands on some Steyr Scout rifles. Photos of KLA terrorists armed with Steyr Scouts soon hit the international press and Cooper was ecstatic that some armed group-even a bunch of terrorist goons had finally seen the light and were using his concept in battle. Thus, in Coopers mind, validating his Scout Rifle Concept was finally validated. Now a lot of Scott rifle fanatics today like to downplay the fact that Cooper designed that rifle for battle and like Soviet historians conveniently ignore that fact. I’ve even had them tell me that absolutely no way did Cooper ever design the scout rifle to be used in war. Except in 1999 Cooper presented a lecture at the Soldier of Fortune Convention in Las Vegas entitled (drum roll please) “The Scout Rifle in War”. This lecture was held in a small convention hall and at one end was the door, and the other end was a table and a lectern. On the table Cooper had set up his personal Steyr Scout resting upright with the integral bipod legs extended. Following his lecture, Cooper invited people up to the table to actually get a hands on look at his personal Scott rifle and ask him questions. And of course members of the audience accepted his invitation-who wouldn’t? . Suddenly there was a loud “BANG”. And if you’ve ever heard one of those short-barreled Steyr Scott rifles with its 19” barrel fire it must’ve been a pretty loud bang-especially indoors. Apparently what happened is a round from Cooper Steyr Scout found its way to the chamber and someone pulled the trigger sending a .308 bullet into the ceiling. So, either: A) Cooper brought a weapon into that lecture with a live round in the chamber B) Cooper brought a rifle to that lecture with a round(s) in the magazine C) Cooper brought a rifle into that lecture with rounds in the spare magazine thats rests in the buttstock and then somebody put that magazine into the rifle and the round was loaded into the chamber D) Someone brought a round with them and then put it into the rifle. I think possibility “D” is pretty remote. Knowing Cooper possibility “C” makes the most sense. Regardless Cooper failed to control his weapon and was NEGLIGENT. Now this all occurred while the internet was still in its infancy and back then famous gun writers could get away with all sorts of crap-like when Bill Jordan had a negligent discharge and shot a fellow cop through the head killing him. The gun magazines never reported it so nobody knew about it. The only way I even knew about it was one of the guys who was there had a slip of the tongue and I picked up on it-he then clammed up and begged me not to say anything about him doing so. I then talked to Peter Kokalis and he confirmed it. In fact Kokalis told me that when he heard the discharge, “I reached for my .45!” (whether or not he actually did who knows because if you knew Peter he always had a strong tendency to be dramatic). Nowadays when gun Gawds screw up (like Puzikas shooting someone at a class or Gabe Suarez’ legal antics) it’s all over the Internet, but not back then.
@@IRACK-mq6tf Jeez. I can't imagine how many people sh*t their pants when that rifle went off. The story about Jordan has always been a mystery to me. I had heard everything ranging from, it never happened, it did happen but the bullet struck no one, to the other guy was only wounded, all the way to what you conveyed, and I believe was probably true. I have also heard talk of drop-guns, and the time Jordan may have helped a possibly corrupt cop get away with muder, by testifying in court and demonstrating how fast a pistol could be drawn. Just stories I've heard over the years. The pre-internet days were very interesting. I for one, am not so caught up in hero worship, as to believe these men were the infallible saints like many blindly believe. But there is no doubt that they were some very interesting characters. Thank you for sharing.
Cooper was never a cop. Ever. And in WW2, he served with a Marine Detachment aboard a Navy ship. He didn't see ground combat in the Pacific. He never explained exactly what he did in Korea either. And I've only seen one photo of him wearing a Marine uniform with ribbons that is too grainy to distinguish. one row in the stack, his cap visor was that of a field grade officer. A pretty minimal display for a 2 war guy. That said; he was a good pistol shot, writer, a good rangemaster, a fair evaluator of handguns, excellent self- promoter and businessman and provided good instruction. Mostly to civilians who paid dearly for it. I'm unaware of any police academy of consequence that ever hired him full time or any military work after he left the Marine Corps. So, overall, his bio is vague, repeated almost verbatim where ever you read it always written by others. That's a clue friends. Of course there is an army of fans who will shit ball me for these comments but preface your opinions with your own experience, mine, is a decade in the Army carrying a pistol as a primary weapon and 30 years afterwards in the field as a police officer and State Trooper. The more time on the job, the less you paid attention to Col. Cooper. Theory is fine, so is the range, but in short order you'll have a belly full of opinion and experience on the street yourself and you starting wondering about the Col., incidentally, the "kinda" looking cop outfit he wears in this video proves my point too.
Colonel Cooper never claimed to be a cop, so it's strange you would make that a criticism. Before commenting you should educate yourself. Colonel Cooper killed a Japanese soldier after going ashore on Kwajalein Atoll, and another on Saipan, and actually he did detail what he felt he legally could regarding his service with the OSS in Thailand, including killing a would be assassin who was armed with a Sten. He never boasted about these kills, or any others he carried out.
I think President Theodore Roosevelt described people like you very succinctly and eloquently. Trying to tear down someone who has past just to make yourself feel better is in poor taste.
Yes, he was the officer in charge of the arms room on the U.S.S. Pennsylvania, a WW1 era battleship that was used for shore bombardments. When it wasn't in dry dock for repairs. After WW2, he was a high school and junior college history teacher who went back in for Korea, where he was again in charge of arms and range training. But something didn't go well, because the Marines don't "choose to decline to continue service of good officers. Declining to continue the service of a serving officer is telling them not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Either something got totally screwed up not enough to court martial, but that they wanted him gone, like now. He really learned to shoot PPC style from a fellow competitor at the matches held up at Big Bear, California. He later bought the land in Nevada to start his school and with a lot of hot air, inflated his ego and aura. Jeff Cooper never saw real combat in either war, and never saw any police duty. Nowhere in record is there any proof of any gunfight involving Cooper.
Speaking to his Tailor: I want you to design me a uniform that eccentuates every bump and bulge on my lumpy, Baby Huey Body, and make me look like my mom still dresses me--But, will at the same time, pass Muster with Joseph Goebbels.
No way around it. That uniform is bad. But it makes me think of all the "instructors" today, suited up in tac gear and wearing chest rigs and plate carriers with full kit, to review a gun they've been paid to praise. I'll take Cooper any day.
Well, Cooper would’ve been PLEASED that it would resemble a Sturm Abteilung uniform as he had a soft spot for Nazi’s. And if you don’t know who/what I’m talking about then you don’t know much about Jeff Cooper.
real draw and shooting not the game .red dot gear gamers who say they are the best who have never been in a combat ... all the gamers teach people how to draw on a flat range or pre known stage ..that does not shoot back ..and they mouth col cooper all the time ..well screw them
Cooper was the first Fudd. Even though he owned an HK-91 he despised centerfire box magazine fed rifles and never missed opportunity to disparage them when he could.
