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Jehovah's Witnesses Elders Hunted Me Down. 

Robin Jackson
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During my fade from the organization, the Jehovah's Witness elders hunted me down under instruction from the organization. This is the story.
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@joytoyouandme4593
@joytoyouandme4593 3 месяца назад
In my case 6 months after I stopped attending meetings, two elders appeared at my work to talk to me. I let them know that it was 100% inappropriate for them to disturb me at my workplace. They left. I later discovered that the co was visiting and they appeared because they had been scolded for losing track of me. I later let them know at my home why I quit attending and that their lack of interest in me clarified to me whether they were being directed by Jehovah. My worldly associates had been the ones who helped me through the end of my marriage when my husband was disfellowshipped. Not one witness checked to see if I was ok or needed help. Even after my parents had contacted the elders and asked them to check on me. Because my husband was being physically abusive. This was all I needed to confirm to me that JW’s do not have God leading them. They lack agape love.
@teresamiller5060
@teresamiller5060 3 месяца назад
That was my situation when I left my ex husband. He was abusive and over time just stopped attending the meetings. I continued to take my children to the meetings and conduct a family Bible study with them, etc. But my ex was correct! ….No matter what I told the elders about his abuse at home…When he walked into that Kingdom Hall they tripped over their shiny dress shoes to shake his hand! And he was right! My children ages 16 and 19 left as well. As soon as I was out my eyes were opened to all of the bs. I was raised a JW. I left at 38 yo. That was 25 years ago, and I only regret not leaving sooner. ❤
@konstantinoskazantzis3893
@konstantinoskazantzis3893 3 месяца назад
Agape love ? 😂 Hippocrates 100% $$$$ only thank you
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
The audacity of it all. I am glad you are free from it all.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
I am glad you are out and free from their control and hypocrisy.
@PCB-dg7pt
@PCB-dg7pt 3 месяца назад
Very true I found them with no real human compassion and I only studied for 1 year and found it seemed very robotic and absolutely no emotional feelings!! And this is Jehovah God's visible organization??
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 3 месяца назад
Watchtower is DANGEROUS RIP Raymond Franz
@jaredscott367
@jaredscott367 2 месяца назад
EPIC letter! when I faded, I joined the air force. after 2 years of being in the military, elders tracked me down and came to my house. I still have no idea how they did it, I assume my father (an elder) had something to do with it, but he didn't have my address because he wouldn't talk to me. i also don't think I put in a change of address to that house either. weird and creepy. They asked me why I left, and I LAYED it on them. I also put on my military uniform shirt at the same time. they got uncomfortable and asked if they could read me a scripture, I said "hell no, get off my property and never come back". Leaving that organization was the best thing I ever did in my life, the freedom, and the weight off your shoulders is the best feeling ever. Stay strong fellow and future survivors. YOU GOT THIS
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thanks for relaying your experience. I am glad you made it out.
@stevenhuntley8706
@stevenhuntley8706 3 месяца назад
Standing up for yourself is ALWAYS worth it.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Absolutely. 100 %
@CelticGypsy-USA
@CelticGypsy-USA 3 месяца назад
Fear based, correct . I no longer live in fear
@herbs4life851
@herbs4life851 2 месяца назад
My dad warned me that I'm still a baptized witness (even though I've had nothing to do with them for about a decade), and I told him that the religion I got baptized into (in the 90's) no longer exists. I told him that the truth never changes, and yet the "truth" I was preaching is no longer the truth. He the then asked me to leave the house. All the JW organisation does is cause division, braking up families and friendships should you question anything. An organisation that can't be questioned, is a very dangerous organisation.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
I agree. They break up families and are divisive. Thank you for sharing your experience. All the best in your journey and thanks for watching.
@CelticGypsy-USA
@CelticGypsy-USA 3 месяца назад
Took me a long time to realize they have no power . Great show of strength my friend !
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your comments.
@paulafreyeisen8159
@paulafreyeisen8159 2 месяца назад
My mother is still a JW. I was going to meetings when I was younger and finally when I was 17 I told her i didn’t want to do this. I wanted to be with my “worldly” friends. She tried to make me be friends with the witness kids and they were so clicky. I’m married now with a 20 year old daughter and am so happy to not be around that cult religion. It’s very sad for a child not to be able to celebrate their birthdays. I missed out on A LOT.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad that you are free and living your life cult free.
@gaetanodetorrice5555
@gaetanodetorrice5555 3 месяца назад
There are real estate publishing company disguised as a religion 😮😮😮.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Absolutely correct.
@gaetanodetorrice5555
@gaetanodetorrice5555 3 месяца назад
Thank you I've been involved with them for 50 years. Keep up the good work my true brother. 👍❤️
@CelticGypsy-USA
@CelticGypsy-USA 3 месяца назад
Now a TV evangelist organization and making a movie studio
@gaetanodetorrice5555
@gaetanodetorrice5555 3 месяца назад
@@CelticGypsy-USA oh yeah I forgot about that you're right 👍😂😂😂
@melyndaduh3501
@melyndaduh3501 3 месяца назад
Real estate publishing company 🤣🤣🤣
@CelticGypsy-USA
@CelticGypsy-USA 3 месяца назад
I chose to disassociate myself last year . I wanted to take control . The elders got my letter and tried to rush me into an urgent meeting the next day, only for them to DF me I guess . I refused
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Many people choose the disassociation route. Everyone's circumstances are unique. However, I am happy you took back control of your life.
@freedomparadisechick6564
@freedomparadisechick6564 3 месяца назад
Me and my husband faded successfully like 5 years ago! Great video 👍
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
I am glad you are out. Thank you for your comments.
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 3 месяца назад
My husband and I too in 2020!
@lindachilds2227
@lindachilds2227 2 месяца назад
I did too!!❤
@patriciavillegas4175
@patriciavillegas4175 2 месяца назад
Same here we have faded❤
@itsstella9314
@itsstella9314 22 дня назад
I and my daughters faded (2) yrs now. Best Decision ever and can I tell you? I'm so so much closer to God and so much more Resolved to live Morally Clean. That has Absolutely nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses
@latishabennett702
@latishabennett702 3 месяца назад
Lawd 😂have mercy 🙌🏾🙌🏾 that letter is longer than the Bible 😂🤦🏽‍♀️! I just left my home congregation since a kid, got my records transferred to another random hall, and of course, " they" elders recommended my pioneering be taken away 🤨! At first, I was hurt and frozen a little, but I decided to stay positive and focused! They did me a favor, simply fading away now! The new congregation doesn't really know me, so it worked out ! Praise the Grand Creator and Universe ❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Good for you. Fading is the way to go.😁
@asapstan
@asapstan 3 месяца назад
That's exactly how I faded too.
@cultytalk
@cultytalk 3 месяца назад
🙌
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 3 месяца назад
Congrats on your new freedom!!!🎉🎉🎉
@froggyfreedom3979
@froggyfreedom3979 3 месяца назад
We always think we are alone but the exact same thing I did also. And many more people I know did it that way.
@kathrynwilliams5509
@kathrynwilliams5509 2 месяца назад
What makes them think they have the right to hunting people down this is against the law.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Absolutely.
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
they hunted me down three years after we left. In a split second I decided to record them, glad I did...
@kathryna6370
@kathryna6370 2 месяца назад
I’ve been inactive 30 years, never wrote a letter. My two sisters did the same. We wanted to be able to have a relationship with our mother and friends. Worked for us and the elders have never visited us.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing your experience.
@valerielhw
@valerielhw 3 месяца назад
Good for you! More people should sue, or _threaten_ to sue, JWs when they spy on individuals and then use or threaten to use that info to destroy their family relationships and/or their professions. It sounds like such lawsuits would have legal merit, and would definitely discouage disfellowshipping!
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 месяца назад
excellent advice
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
I agree.
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
@@RobinJacksonZA what happened? Were there law suits ?
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA Месяц назад
@muma6559 yes there were lawsuits.
@ckelly5141
@ckelly5141 3 месяца назад
How to leave JW’s and WT and not get disfellowshipped. Brilliant! Great job!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you. 😊
@lifewithnancia1809
@lifewithnancia1809 2 месяца назад
​@@RobinJacksonZA As a young adult 19 years old I disassociate myself from them because of the toxicity within the kingdom Hall not only that but because of me getting bullied and not fitting in , having to be taking advantage from others not sexually tho, Not agreeing with Everything they say , and Lastly Pleasing Others to be happy like my Mom ,my Bible conductor or teacher, and the members of the congregation 😮‍💨🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@Sweetness_g
@Sweetness_g 2 месяца назад
@@lifewithnancia1809this is my current life. Toxic congregation, being taken advantage of materially by elders, being bullied and gossiped about yet the same people turn around and try to be me yet they pick me apart. I stopped going, my husband still does and I hate how they entitled they feel with our car and I’m going to attend one more time just to tell them to stop taking advantage of our resources they are ours not theirs!
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
@@Sweetness_g yes, they do steal and destroy, like true narcissists they will take everything drop by drop if you let them. We sacrificed so much until we said... NO MORE! WT uses and abuses, that's all they do.
@jasoncollins3841
@jasoncollins3841 Месяц назад
Not sure why someone would need a video of how to leave an organization. It’s like quitting a job just so t go back to work. Why we need these videos of people getting upset and leaving something?
@checkthefacts.
@checkthefacts. 3 месяца назад
I left shortly before the change in the 1914 generation teaching in 1995, I realised that the generation of 1914 had already by some means passed away whereas Jesus said it would be no means pass away ,the quiet removal of the creator's promise in the Awake wouldn't wash with me. Upon waking up I found it difficult to suppress my free speech and one elder asked me if I still viewed myself as a Jehovah's Witness to which I said I wanted to follow God not the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, they made an announcement at the next meeting that I had left the Christian congregation and I have been shunned ever since. Looking back I wish I had followed a similar tack to yourself,well done for taking the initiative 👍
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@JV4740
@JV4740 3 месяца назад
This is absolute gold and should be shared with other ExJW's dealing with a similar situation. Who says Jehovah doesn't send help to those in need...?
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@aprilwine132
@aprilwine132 3 месяца назад
I love your letter SO much. . In 2003 i had the opportunity to give this speech to the presiding elder of my parents, congregation along with my parents over a 4 1/2 hour period. He met with me as a personal favor to my parents with hope of bringing me back into the organization. I had told them “I had questions” I showed them original publications of the watchtower society all the way back to the founding that I had collected over the years after I left the society unbaptized. Since i was not baptized I was never completely shunned by my parents but our relationship was severely strained,.. I actually got some of the publications from my parents that they had collected from witnesses that were older than them when they passed away and bought some from online auctions. I must say you did it MUCH more eloquently.. I left in 1979 at the age of 18 after the 1975 prophecy failed. I knew then they were false prophets. Unfortunately my parents remained until their deaths in 2011&2017 blinded and disappointed by the cult as the generations before them
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing your experience and your insights. Much appreciated.
@phillbobaggins5962
@phillbobaggins5962 3 месяца назад
That's one hell of a long letter, you could publish that as a book! I faded and would sue the local elders if they dared to threaten me, but I would never put anything down in writing, I would just instruct a lawyer...😂
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
😅
@melyndaduh3501
@melyndaduh3501 3 месяца назад
Some are blessed with writing skills. 🌹🤗♥️
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
@@melyndaduh3501 😊
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
@@RobinJacksonZA What personality type are you ? MBTI
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA Месяц назад
@muma6559 I am a Mediator (INFP-T)
@fredr7217
@fredr7217 3 месяца назад
That’s a real Mandela move! “I will sue you for liable!” You’re very awesome! God bless you sir
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you.😁
@joanferguson4194
@joanferguson4194 2 месяца назад
I’ve heard of several people who threatened to sue the elders if they persisted in their witch-hunt and made announcements of disfellowshipping and such. And were successful.
@Gabby-er1sr
@Gabby-er1sr 3 месяца назад
It is not for the good that you gather together but for the bad . . . The freemasonic pyramind , is about to loose its golden capstone .
@11314740
@11314740 2 месяца назад
U mean Mr Charles tomb?
@enchantedelise1
@enchantedelise1 3 месяца назад
I faded years ago but was, and still am, totally shunned by local witnesses even those who were close friends.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
It is a despicable practice. Thank you for your comments.
@sgt.v7237
@sgt.v7237 3 месяца назад
Good thing I disassociated. They faked having concern for me. I told them save it. I'll be easy on you. If they were to hunt me down, I got a friend waiting on them. His name is Mr. 2nd amendment.
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 месяца назад
being a aussie..is that a gun?
@sgt.v7237
@sgt.v7237 3 месяца назад
@@astridmiller7938 it is indeed
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 месяца назад
awesome@@sgt.v7237
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 месяца назад
elders overstepping their pseudo authority.... their fickle power WT makes their god a liar
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Yes. Some of them thrive on that pseudo authority and power.
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 месяца назад
i could never understand the paradise teaching and that made my mother angry...that was in the 60/70's and still today i don't get it? but what really irks me when you get ignored because of someone else's belief.. i mean the jw's follow rutherford/wt, so they don't have a original belief....... so i say the sky is blue and you say pink so now your going to hate me... bloody stupid ideology@@RobinJacksonZA
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 3 месяца назад
​@@RobinJacksonZAJesus Christ sent all of you to preach about the Jw's or satan the devil sent all of you to preach about the Jw's???????
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 3 месяца назад
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Roman's 10:1-3,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3....
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 месяца назад
well how is vusi today, i see you are still cruisin'@@vusimngomezulu2500
@womanofthenang3210
@womanofthenang3210 3 месяца назад
Personally I've never regretted disassociating and the method in which I did, but I simply must say that your letter to the elders was simply BRILLIANT, bravo, I LOVED listening to this. X
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your comments.
@Gabby-er1sr
@Gabby-er1sr 3 месяца назад
Because they know their time is short. There is madness in their hearts .
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Yes. They are losing members. The internet has become a thorn in their side.
@celiadouglas4780
@celiadouglas4780 Месяц назад
They are the worst and hypocrite set of cult in the world shame on them .I will never be a jw never
@markcopland5738
@markcopland5738 3 месяца назад
I had a niece that threatened a restraining order to the elders because they were harrasing her,one was my brother in law that some family gossip that hedid something to a different niece which left the J.Ws because of what happened to her.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
@rdhawk929
@rdhawk929 3 месяца назад
Bravo! I LOVE that letter, and this whole message. If I ever have the opportunity to speak to a JW again, I hope I can be half as eloquent and thorough as you! 💖💖💯
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much. 😊
@reneesalvatori1996
@reneesalvatori1996 3 месяца назад
Brilliant. Thank you for sharing
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you. Thanks for watching.
@asapstan
@asapstan 3 месяца назад
That letter could've been a lot longer if it was written today.with the Australian royal commission and the United nations thing .
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Exactly. So much has happened since then.
@asapstan
@asapstan 3 месяца назад
That's got to be the best letter I've ever heard! Well done
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much.
@itsjustphill
@itsjustphill 3 месяца назад
They thought they were doing something 😂 well done
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
They thought they had a gotcha moment.😁
@Estee.Ar.6869
@Estee.Ar.6869 3 месяца назад
Thank you Robin for sharing. I was spied on and harrassed too.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching. I am sorry to hear that you were spied on and experienced harassment too.
@Ed30675
@Ed30675 3 месяца назад
Truly extraordinary Robin... Your letter was....( I'm actually struggling to find the right words to convey it's brilliance,... Profound comes to mind, but even that word seems inadequate..) Like you, I managed to fade.. only in my own case unlike yours, time hasn't so far caught up with me.. it has been over 30 years since I departed.. No one really cared that I did so....almost 40 years of service, but no one really cared...and no, I wasn't what we called a fringe member.... very much to the contrary....I was very similar to you....I was right at the hub of things...but in the end, no one really cared... Soon I will depart, and in the end no one will really care... Your letter needs sharing and I for one will share it....There is so much of me in it... Thank you for your videos which I have listened to with huge interest since you began producing them....They are always of a very high standard..
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your comments and your kind words. Much appreciated. All the best in your journey.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 3 месяца назад
I care man. I've been there both in the world and at the KH. I care cuz I know what it's like to not be cared for.
@Ed30675
@Ed30675 3 месяца назад
@@violinfanatickamraz1403 Thank you for your kind words and for taking the time to write.. This was very much appreciated.... Best wishes to you...
@Ed30675
@Ed30675 3 месяца назад
@@RobinJacksonZA Thank you Robin... I look forward to your forthcoming videos ..
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
I also care because I also know what it's like not to be cared for. You will not be forgotten by the good God above. There was a mention of pity in the letter, I forget the context, but it reminded me of the scripture. "If we have hope only in this life... we are of all people most to be pitied". Highlighting the surety of the future, for all who want it, really. Have faith and love to you from someone who cares.
@linoruggero
@linoruggero 3 месяца назад
simply Top, my Brother - thank you. Greetings from Germany
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much. Thanks for watching.
@SanDiegoPIMO
@SanDiegoPIMO 3 месяца назад
I was tempted to write a letter. I'm deciding to fade instead because even if I told the Elders all the things I've found out not just about CSA, but also Geoffrey Jacksons testimony and the Australian Royal Commission (as well and the Legal Departments lying not just there but other courts like in Norway and Canada), I know it won't make a bit of difference. I saw one Judicial Committee video (as well as others) and even with evidence proving the inaccuracies, the Elders mentality seems to be "We don't care, you're either with us or against us." If it's going to end up with disfellowshipping either way, why should I give them the time of day?
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
I agree. All the best with your fade and your journey.
@womanclothedinthesunq7574
@womanclothedinthesunq7574 Месяц назад
Im glad you stood up! The seven headed bearded dragon deserves everything thats coming. Thank you 😊 love from Socorro NM 🤠.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA Месяц назад
Thank you and thanks for watching. Greetings from South Africa. 😊
@cultytalk
@cultytalk 3 месяца назад
I love your letter, Robin! Great job. Thanks for sharing 👏 👏 👏
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you. I appreciate your comments.
@cultytalk
@cultytalk 3 месяца назад
@@RobinJacksonZA I don't think the Jdubs were prepared for running into an intelligent, articulate prepared gentleman such as yourself!! 😁😁😁
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
@@cultytalk 😁
@ag49521
@ag49521 3 месяца назад
I "returned to Jehovah" in late 2022 after being out for 10 years.. After attending quietly for 6 months, then the elders and JW family really started the control including a forced weekly 2 hr Bible study on Saturday afternoon for the whole summer until I said this was enough. I just stopped attending. My family member and the elders just this past Saturday tried to reach out, but I ignored it. Now I'm on pins and needles waiting for them to show up at my house.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
All the best in your journey.
@5star64
@5star64 2 месяца назад
Don’t be on pins and needles. This doomsday cult is a complete scam. Enjoy your life and don’t concern your self with these deluded buffoons. If they approach you tell them to get lost. Or just ignore them . Your silence will infuriate them. Or call the Police. That really gets under there skin.
@maja3942
@maja3942 2 месяца назад
UNO-URI- jehovas whitnesses, CESNUR - jehovas whitnesses
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
I hope you can move forward without your JW family, if that is possible. Best to you
@5star64
@5star64 Месяц назад
You returned to the Watchtower doomsday cult not to Jehovah. No need to be on pins and needles just tell them to get lost.
@beautyRest1
@beautyRest1 3 месяца назад
You did great!!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@user-os8rg2jp8w
@user-os8rg2jp8w Месяц назад
I was shattered when I heard that. I felt like the floor had opened up & swallowed me. But after the meeting the glazed over look in their eyes made me feel like I was with the walking dead.
@DARKELLAKEL
@DARKELLAKEL 2 месяца назад
I would have told them whether I wrote that book it’s NONE of your business. And sue them!
@justinwaddellxrp
@justinwaddellxrp 2 месяца назад
Like a boss!
@Mercutiossword
@Mercutiossword 2 месяца назад
You just made me remember the brief period of time i was knocking on doors while pimo
@gail4life
@gail4life 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@thiemhoang2312
@thiemhoang2312 3 месяца назад
Jesus and all disciples never say Jehovah or Jehovah god. Governing body is not even in the Bible
@jamescarver3980
@jamescarver3980 3 месяца назад
Very valid points. Having said that I also personally believe that both the individual elders, witnesses, and the watchtower bible and tract society are very liable for a great many crimes against their members and of their extended family and friends.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
They have so much blood on their hands. Thank you for your comments.
@jamescarver3980
@jamescarver3980 3 месяца назад
Thank you Robin. They caused the death of my father due to their false doctrines.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
@@jamescarver3980 I am so sorry to hear that.
@tarheelmama
@tarheelmama 2 месяца назад
It is so sick this cult teaches guilt, shame & fear in everything. Keep on preaching Robin. Great video. If they keep preaching no children in this evil world, the cult will die like the Shakers and so many other radical groups.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and for your comments.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 2 месяца назад
I am perfectly willing to engage with Jehovah's Witnesses at my door having studied their history and beliefs. A the same time I have no expectations that my logic and critical thinking will make any difference to their shuttered beliefs.
@Oceanlover1317
@Oceanlover1317 2 месяца назад
At the time I was disfellowshipped in 1994, there wasn't so much talk about all these changes, or they hadn't considered them yet. I felt it was my doing and I should stand up and take my punishment. I was used to it, I'd been disfellowshipped in 1975, 1977, and then 1994. All because of love for a man, or by the last one, men. So why drag it into all this complexity? I really had other agenda at the time, so I wasn't that affected. Now, considering falling to the bottom of the pit in 1994 with this guy, I wish I'd never done anything wrong. It was a safe place for me, and I abused it. Now it'll be 30 years since I was one of JW, and it's all changed. I don't even feel I'd be going back to the same organization, selling off the Kingdom Halls the local brothers paid for? At least the land usually. Or what is transpiring at the top of the ladder? It makes me want to just cry, it's gone. I've asked the Elders over twice in the last decade. My unbelieving son lives with me and scared them off, they went running the first time, and the second time they quickly said a few words and they were gone. Hmmm.😒
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing your experience and your comments.
@geraldlatchman4583
@geraldlatchman4583 3 месяца назад
Which ever way, kicked out or disassociate, consider it a blessing in disguise, 😮, by the way, did you write a letter to join the organization ???, just asking, 😢
@muma6559
@muma6559 Месяц назад
Writing is a way to get things off your chest. And the second good reason is that it gives the receivers an opportunity to consider and reflect on whether they indeed are in a cult. You never know what will help someone wake up and walk out to freedom. By the way, not everyone wants freedom, some people really want to be told what to do, some people want to be flying monkeys, some people are too terrified to step out of their imagined comfort zone. And some people don't really care what is true and what isn't.
@geraldlatchman4583
@geraldlatchman4583 Месяц назад
@@muma6559 totally agree 👍🏽
@gisella1350
@gisella1350 2 месяца назад
Perfect.🚴‍♀🚴‍♀On your bike and leave me and my family alone. A lot of people who have left get scared and knuckle under. That just shows how bad this organization is. It is all about fear. I wrote a similar letter years ago, I gave my reasons why, I was left alone. I still have contact with old acquaintances, I tread lightly. It's a matter of conscious, don't mess with mine and I won't mess with yours, respect.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
💯 correct. I agree.
@kmm9721
@kmm9721 2 месяца назад
I was never in it for the people. I thought it was the truth. After 34 years I woke up and disassociated. I still have Holy God, no one can change that.🤍 Our creator doesn’t live in a Kingdom Hall. Our God is omnipresent.
@bettyforsythe2513
@bettyforsythe2513 3 месяца назад
Fantastic job of bringing to light the situation.❤😊❤
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you.😊
@kawehionalani3957
@kawehionalani3957 2 месяца назад
Wow. Really enjoyed this letter filled with substance unlike the empty articles they write in the Watchtower magazines. As a never was JW but married into a JW family, I struggle with my husband’s cult programming. Even tho he claims he doesn’t follow JW ways and was never baptized, his mentality is that of a witness! He’s too blind to see it and is more so a POMI. I’d love to read this/your letter out loud to my Elder Father in Law. Makes me wonder WHY today in 2024, he still chooses to stay in when no one else in the family is. Thank you for your incredible insight and intelligent display of your thoughts 💭 Take Care and All the Best to You 🫶🏽
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for your comments and for sharing your experience. Much appreciated.
@CouncilofIBSA
@CouncilofIBSA 3 месяца назад
Amazing
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@kathrynwilliams5509
@kathrynwilliams5509 2 месяца назад
This one elder seemed to be every place I went every day until they announced they disassociated me.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
They are good at stalking and harassment. That's crazy.
@kathrynwilliams5509
@kathrynwilliams5509 2 месяца назад
@RobinJacksonZA as I read through all the comments, my thought was talk about all the blood shed on their hands.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
@@kathrynwilliams5509 definitely. This organization has so much blood on their hands.
@johnnyhelbo2345
@johnnyhelbo2345 2 месяца назад
I faded, but not silently. I was vocal about questions and criticisms of watchtower, but no action was taken. An elder stopped by my shop, spoke for a bit, and then asked if I believed the GB were gods representatives on earth. I said "no". He shook his head and drove away. Still nothing. Perhaps because I was in the congregation since it's founding, they shied away from the inevitable questions from many as to why. I finally gave them a very public reason to disfellowship me, which prompted a call to request an elders meeting with me, which I declined, as I told them I did not recognize them as having any authority over me. They were free to do as they wished. I attended the meeting for my DF announcement. I actually enjoyed it.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your comments. We all have our ways of leaving the organization and dealing with the aftermath.
@Isaia43.10
@Isaia43.10 10 дней назад
. Now there is "new and interesting" information on these and other relevant topics, which you can familiarize yourself with if you go to the site: (Copy) Добрий час. "Руководит ли Бог..." (11 марта, 2024 год) [Enter search] (Order: the new-est first) Read in the comments... And, perhaps, you will be able to learn something new and useful for your-self. Alexander. (Excluded and disfellowshipped by JW). "Bible student." (Tashkent). Comments in English. In these commentaries, you will also have the opportunity to learn about whom Jehovah has chosen as his "last anointed one" and what his role is in harmony with God's purpose.
@kawehionalani3957
@kawehionalani3957 2 месяца назад
THANK YOU 🙏 for sharing a beautiful, well written letter 🫶🏽
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you. I appreciate it.
@cosmic-oceanofthought.
@cosmic-oceanofthought. 2 месяца назад
Walked away 19yrs ago.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
I am glad you are free from the cult.
@celiadouglas4780
@celiadouglas4780 Месяц назад
Bravo good for you.jw is not a real religion but cult false teaching.
@sramdeojohn4428
@sramdeojohn4428 2 месяца назад
Thanks for taking time to make these videos available. I learn a lot about the jws🙏🙏😇😇
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching.
@Gr8Believer
@Gr8Believer 3 месяца назад
Beautiful exit. Love the picture on the wall
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much.
@Gr8Believer
@Gr8Believer 3 месяца назад
@@RobinJacksonZAThe title should be "The Elders Haunted Me Down"
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
@@Gr8Believer that is true. 😁
@Gr8Believer
@Gr8Believer 3 месяца назад
@@RobinJacksonZA When did you leave Bushel Cong?
@joepublisher166
@joepublisher166 3 месяца назад
Wow! Wow! Wow! Perfection, this video and your letter! btw: I too got stumbled from that now infamous 1995 NOV Watchtower study article where the "1914 generation" was thrown into the trash in a flash. I was also very disturbed that I told householders the end was near and explained the 1914 generation teaching to them - those alive in 1914 would not die off the earthly scene before the end comes. And, then there's the Awake masthead whereby the WTS leaders said this promise was the Creator's promise - God's promise! How presumptuous was that!?!?! Over the last 2 decades, I have found out that many JWs were stumbled by that long-taught change. The sad part is that just like 1975, a good portion of current JWs have no idea about these failed teachings and because the WTS hides their past mistakes, it's difficult for them to find these.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
I agree. Many current JWs have no idea of the failed prophecies of yesteryear and the flip flops. They just follow the governing body blindly. Thank you for your comments.
@bunchlead
@bunchlead 2 месяца назад
Wow, someone who remembers that 1995 debacle like me. Can I ask you a question, was this news of "1914" U-turn, passed off in the Watchtower with no comment from the elders on the stage? I seem to remember that this change in doctrine was passed off in a paragraph in a Watchtower magazine called the Sheep and the Goats? There was absolutely no clarification from elders and everyone was left to figure it out for themselves. I remember after the meeting people were running around panicking about the doctrine change and what it meant. Is your recollection the same? By the way, I was in the UK when this happened, what nation was you in that fateful night?
@joepublisher166
@joepublisher166 2 месяца назад
@@bunchlead If you're asking me, I am in America. There were no comments from the elders conducting the Watchtower that I remember. I do remember that the article mentioned, this doesn't mean we are not in the last days. If you recall, the overlapping generation didn't come until later. I believe they said the generation Jesus was alluding to was the bad generation of mankind, or some crap like that and they even cited a worldly source to back this up. WTF! I later heard that some in the congregation were questioning some elders about this change, but what do the elders know? They didn't make the change, the WTS leaders did and they operate from a need to know perspective. For me, it would take a little time to settle in just how much of a let down this was. I even wondered if this is how the JW must have felt after the 1975 letdown.
@bunchlead
@bunchlead 2 месяца назад
@@joepublisher166 Yep, thats how I remembered it too. Governing Body just dropped the bombshell in a paragraph within magazine without any official explanation or special talk. How nice of them lol? The whole JW organisation is a financial scam imo. I'm glad people are waking up in their droves and leaving this circus.
@bunchlead
@bunchlead 2 месяца назад
@@joepublisher166 That's sort of my recollection too. How nice of the WTS to call off the new system and leave everyone to try and figure it out. I guess they couldn't face the fall-out regarding their false prophecies being exposed via the media. PS, great to have finally found someone who remembers that crazy 1914 U-turn like me. Cheers buddy
@itsstella9314
@itsstella9314 22 дня назад
Well Penned, Eternally Grateful.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 22 дня назад
Thank you.
@itsstella9314
@itsstella9314 22 дня назад
You seem to be well read and Absolutely admire your knowledge base in legal matters. Thanks again
@larstenfaelt1859
@larstenfaelt1859 2 месяца назад
Brilliant approach and letter!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you.
@darrengreen9273
@darrengreen9273 3 месяца назад
👏👏👏👏👏 Superlative Letter!!!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much.
@snakebbite
@snakebbite 2 месяца назад
damn you told them!! good for you! this is my first video from your channel i have watched. what an entrance! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you .😁
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 3 месяца назад
Death Cult 🛑
@richlisola1
@richlisola1 3 месяца назад
I heard fading is no longer an option, the Watchtower now ruthlessly hunts down faders, sends their kin and friends after them to ask them to return. By ask I means demand with the threat of disfellowshipping.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Gosh. They hate losing control and they are bleeding members.
@reluctantheist5224
@reluctantheist5224 3 месяца назад
I wouldn't believe everything you hear.
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 3 месяца назад
That has not happened to my husband and I. We faded in 2020.
@sammyytube5999
@sammyytube5999 2 месяца назад
This is a really lengthy letter. If you gave a copy to each elder, I am certain that all of them did not read it. But I am sure that one of them kept their copy and just did not share with the others that he plans to read it late. So good job with the elder body distribution. I know that putting so much details in writing was therapeutic. Also, I give you a lot of credit for delivering your letter in front of a field service group who would stone you if they could. Good job letting the elders know that they are not that valuable to their religious leaders who would not help them in an individual law suit.
@janevigneau3406
@janevigneau3406 3 месяца назад
I've never been a jw my family was catholic. But my relatives that became jw is so sad. Two committed suicide because they feared being shunned. Some did leave and didn't care if they were shunned they had support by us and the family they married into. It just blows my mind that they want to keep everyone poor to keep control Almost like the government. Bless you sir. You have now awakened. ❤ welcome to living life.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you. I am so sorry to hear about your two relatives.
@davidmcbrine4527
@davidmcbrine4527 3 месяца назад
So Robin, how would you know if the elders made that announcement or not? And did you ever hear from them or any one again. After that long letter that I listened to till the end, I think we deserve to know.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
As far as I know from insider information in that kingdom hall the announcement was never made. Although the shunning happened.
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 3 месяца назад
Thanks Robin #Courage
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you Todd.
@donalddotson-cw5ll
@donalddotson-cw5ll 2 месяца назад
Usually there are many different types of pro bono/free law school students groups, lawyers, law firms, prosecutors officers, mental health social services emotional well being advocates, etc that are very aware of the precedent setting federal, state, local court rulings cases that pertains to each persons right of worshipping their choice of religious beliefs in America. Call your federal, state, local prosecutors office, law schools, public defenders, to see what types of free or adjustable legal fees charges according to your income level. To help you with the legal assistance of filing a " notice of intention to Sue for causing you or any family members, or distressed persons, to have any types of emotional duress/stress inducing feelings ". The certified motion for" Notice of intention to sue for any type of law breaking", is a very simple self explanatory pre emptive warning for anyone that even remotely causes someone to feel emotional stress/AKA emotional duress. You have a civil right in America to not be stalked, harassed, defamed, emotionally religiously mentally, or physically coerced/raped/harmed in any manner/cheated/robbed/tricked/swindled/etc. Once you contact the prosecutors office. it's the official job of the prosecutors/public defenders office to at least try to protect your civil, and criminal rights in America. Call them to find out how they might be able to help you. Ask them to send you their legal answers as their official reply from their office to be sent to you on their offices official letterhead documents. It's called creating a legally binding paper, or email trail. You'll need it in the process of trying to get someone to stop harassing you or anyone else that may feel threatened by someones words, or actions.
@yvonne3903
@yvonne3903 2 месяца назад
I like your style
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you.
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 3 месяца назад
Governing Body BLOOD GUILTY 🛑
@tim..t175
@tim..t175 3 месяца назад
Well stated 👏
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@margaretsmith5340
@margaretsmith5340 2 месяца назад
Thank you for clear and precise explanation of your thoughts on this matter,may I ask where your accent comes from please?
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much. I am from South Africa. 😊
@robertmethia7080
@robertmethia7080 2 месяца назад
there coming to get you Barbra!
@jeneb52
@jeneb52 2 месяца назад
I faded, and so far I have not seen or heard from any elders in about 5 years when my mother died. You aren't the only one who was tracked down when all they wanted was to be left alone! It's awesome that you left and threatened to sue the elders for harassment over writing a book about your views. Rolf Furulli wrote a book about how he loved his religion, and even defended the 1914 debacle; yet they still did fellowshipped him anyway. I'm curious as to where you can find your book, I would love to purchase it to read! Nice letter too!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your insights and your comments. My books may be purchased by following the links in the description of the video.
@jeneb52
@jeneb52 16 дней назад
@@RobinJacksonZA I am reading losing the faith book currently, and am going to refer it to a friend!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 16 дней назад
@jeneb52 thank you for your support. I appreciate it.
@jiriovecka350
@jiriovecka350 2 месяца назад
I got in similar situation. I told elders they cant disfellowship me because i dont feel like JW for many years etc.... Then they told everyone that i asked them to not be JW anymore and that they fulfil my wish so i disassociated (i didnt say such things). They simply lied !!!. I called to betel with complaint then and they told me they "believe their elders" and not me. So tell me what to do now? 😂😂😂 You can show them laws, you can show them even their own rules. But if they really want to hurt you, they will simply lie.
@jiriovecka350
@jiriovecka350 2 месяца назад
Now I am writing a letter to betel with another complaint, because the elders violate laws about GDPR (europe here). Then I want to write a complaint to state because of it. But what can you do more? They choose to lie and you have no evidence just your own word.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Their actions are truly appalling. It is despicable. Thank you for sharing.
@gaetanodetorrice5555
@gaetanodetorrice5555 3 месяца назад
One word to you Robin. Excellent❤👍💪. PS watchtower I made copies😂😂
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much. 😄
@gaetanodetorrice5555
@gaetanodetorrice5555 3 месяца назад
@@RobinJacksonZA you're welcome Robin. Hey Robin I'm from the screwed generation 1975. 😁
@ascotinva
@ascotinva 2 месяца назад
My take on disassociation is scriptural. Do not cast pearls before swine. It is none of their business what I have decided. There aren't any scriptural precedents in fact the opposite in John 6:66 where some left and that was the end of it.
@lindachilds2227
@lindachilds2227 2 месяца назад
After I left the JW organization in August 2019 due to researching and finding out so much disturbing information and false doctrines!! 2 Elders decided to call me this was around the visiting of the Overseer, can they stop back? No I replied!! I been in that organization for 60 years, hardly no visitors when I was in the hospital for several major surgeries! But now they want to visit me to make an impression with the overseer!! Hypocrisy and full of themselves!! So glad I did the work to research and got away!! I faded out doing the pandemic!! Don’t care if they shun me, because I am shunning them!! Stay away from me !!!!
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Good on you. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@wildbill6366
@wildbill6366 2 месяца назад
Wow Robin that was an excellent letter very well presented.. very impressive. Hopefully they abided by your wishes and allowed you to just live your life as you see fit..❤
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much.
@kerrinbooth2764
@kerrinbooth2764 2 месяца назад
Well crafted, excellent letter. Too bad they're not going to read it
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you and thanks for watching.
@user-op6eu3tt9j
@user-op6eu3tt9j Месяц назад
Qqqq
@mikekeyes78
@mikekeyes78 2 месяца назад
I just up and left been 6 years now I’m treated like I’m disfellowship when I’m just inactive I figured just stop going would be the best choice since I could still talk to my family but that don’t even matter I guess there very radical I found Christ wish the others would wake up , left at 26 now I’m 32 and happy I left so young
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing this. No matter how you leave that organization the result is the same. All the best in your journey.
@justinporter458
@justinporter458 2 месяца назад
In July 2018 ,2 elders came to investigate me ,I showed them the Lloyd Evans video on the Jan 1 1989 Watchtower on the end of the preaching work by the end of our 20th Century which isn't in the 1989 bound volumes . One elder said ,,Justin would you listen to someone with a beard ?,, Jesus has a beard just like Lloyd Evans,,
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Wow! That was an idiotic thing to say from that elder. I am glad you are free.
@apostababelindajames7461
@apostababelindajames7461 2 месяца назад
*"Elder:* Justin would you listen to someone with a beard? *Justin:* Jesus has a beard just like Lloyd Evans." 😂😊😂😊😂😊 I cannot stop laughing 🤣😂🤣😊🤣😂🤣 And now, many JW's have beards too. 🧔🏻‍♀️🤗🧔🏻‍♀️🤗🧔🏻‍♀️
@jeffreycanning3187
@jeffreycanning3187 Месяц назад
Great stuff and cheers from the land down under…
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA Месяц назад
Thank you Jeffrey.
@melanieoreilly2565
@melanieoreilly2565 2 месяца назад
I faded 40 years ago
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
I am happy you are free.
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 3 месяца назад
FEAR 🛑
@user-bf5os3fo9m
@user-bf5os3fo9m 2 месяца назад
Excellent work, Robin! I don't know why the Amazon ratings of your book Losing the Faith are redirecting to a different author though. Thanks
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Thanks you. I will check that out.
@WoodstockG54
@WoodstockG54 2 месяца назад
“Love on another. Without love, there is no lasting peace.“ “The mind creates the abyss, but it is the heart that crosses it.” “Why is the ocean greater than all the lakes, rivers, and streams? Because it lies lower than them.” “The one you are looking for is the one who is looking” Now a word from Jesus. John 9:5. Life comes from life. That is Gods greatness.
@Geraldinopauldesouza
@Geraldinopauldesouza 2 месяца назад
way back in the year 2000, i had misgivings over the blood issue. earlier no blood means no blood. some article in the awake said we could take certain components of blood. these were derived only from donated blood. jws do not donate blood , then why were they permitted to accept components derived from blood? the new light on blood confused me, i knew if i confront the elders on this topic they would tell me leave it to jehovah. i along with my wife and 4 small kids would prefer going to the zoo etc. and rarely came to the meetings. this erratic attendance prompted the bosses of the congregation to have a sherpherding call. we had a heated argument . unless the wt org does not give it in black & white; i and my family will not come. i threatened the 2 elders tho' there were 4, you know what i said, if you disfellowship me without an open committee, i will break your bones. they developed cold feet . no one knows what was the actual reason for me leaving. but old womens gossip says my character is questionable ,so avoid association. all this was only conveyed by word of mouth. i do not regret threatening those stooges of the GB.
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
I love this. Good for you for standing up to them.
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 месяца назад
Howdy Brother 🐐🤠🇳🇴
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
Hey there brother. I love your content. All the way from 🇿🇦
@GoatlikePersonality
@GoatlikePersonality 2 месяца назад
@@RobinJacksonZA You remember my elders at the door? I had been in newspaper and tv as apostate. But I blamed Satan for controlling the media and got away with it 😂
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA 2 месяца назад
@@GoatlikePersonality brilliant. 😅
@leilajangdhari1989
@leilajangdhari1989 2 месяца назад
I think this is a valuable document and can be used as usful record but I dought they would read it all?
@jameslomenzo1139
@jameslomenzo1139 3 месяца назад
Maybe they're on the Watchtower watching 😂 my cousin in the JW, I really feel for her.
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 3 месяца назад
OBLIGATION 🛑
@romans12two419
@romans12two419 Месяц назад
Thank you so much for sharing this helpful information. YOU are my REAL brother. (THEY are NOT. They are lazy learners. I prefer to be like the Beroeans.)
@RobinJacksonZA
@RobinJacksonZA Месяц назад
Thank you. I am glad you found this helpful.
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid 2 месяца назад
JW's came to my house a few Saturdays in a row, seemed like nice chaps - but I said I think the Church is totally corrupt and I feel like 99% of them have no actual faith in God; as they treat their faith like a business. I haven't seen them since. They wouldn't believe the experiences I had that led me to Christ, that's why I say that they have no faith. The very fact that they do not believe in God's miracle outside of their paperworks - a person must be lying who actually experiences a real one! Lol.
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