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Jehovah's Witnesses: We have a deficit Where's Our Money 

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In this video JT focuses on his personal experience with the the financial aspects of Jehovah's Witnesses' circuit assemblies and regional conventions. JT also discusses the lack of transparency in the organization's financial dealings, particularly at higher levels.
Key Points:
1. **Always in the Red**: JT mentions that circuit assemblies always seem to be running a deficit, something he questioned even as a child. He didn't understand why until he became an elder and was responsible for circuit assembly accounts.
2. **Per Publisher Rate**: The organization charges a "per publisher rate" for every circuit assembly, guaranteeing a certain amount of money will be generated. For example, if the rate is $10 per publisher and there are 1,000 publishers, the assembly starts $10,000 in the red.
3. **Lack of Transparency**: While local Kingdom Halls and circuit assemblies provide detailed accounts of their finances, this transparency is not extended to district or regional conventions. The organization has never disclosed how much money is collected at these larger events.
4. **Accounting Practices**: At the local level, two people are required to count and sign off on the money collected, adhering to good accounting practices. However, this level of scrutiny is not applied at higher organizational levels.
5. **Money Makers**: JT points out that these assemblies and conventions are significant moneymakers for the organization. Despite this, there's no clear accounting provided to the general membership about where this money goes or how it's used.
6. **Personal Experience**: JT shares anecdotes from his time as an elder, including the pressure to meet financial targets and the lack of questioning among the elders about keeping some money in the account for future needs.
7. **Change in Policy**: Due to instances of "borrowing" (essentially stealing), the organization changed its policy to require two people to count and sign off on any money collected, even at the smaller book study level.
The video aims to encourage critical thinking about the financial aspects of being a Jehovah's Witness, questioning the lack of transparency and accountability in the organization's handling of funds.
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@ag49521
@ag49521 9 месяцев назад
I decided to attend the Circuit Assembly 2 weeks ago and when they were about to read the accounts report, I whispered to my daughter's ear that it will be a deficit of $10,000, and sure enough it was $8,000. This video immediately came to mind even though I saw it years ago.
@candy-mk6jw
@candy-mk6jw 9 месяцев назад
Omg I was there too. My husband whisper to me same thing as well lol. I can't stand this religion.
@SanDiegoPIMO
@SanDiegoPIMO 9 месяцев назад
lol. I attended the Regional Assembly in August. Same thing there was a deficit.
@beautyRest1
@beautyRest1 9 месяцев назад
God is broke. He is the sovereign of the universe, but he can’t handle money! Humans have to chip in😁👺
@thepumpkin1979
@thepumpkin1979 9 месяцев назад
Interesting. What’s was your motivation to attend? Typical report is at end of the assembly.
@ag49521
@ag49521 9 месяцев назад
@@thepumpkin1979 Last year I decided to go PIMO due to family reasons. However, the fam and the elders are now all over my back to do better spiritually. Not sure how much more of this I can take.
@oshiforb7445
@oshiforb7445 9 месяцев назад
When I was a member of the JW organisation, i was the accounts servant for the local congregation. A few things happened where money was taken out of the contribution boxes after the receipt had been written for the amount of money collected. This would show as a deficit in the cash amount. So, while counting the money, it showed less than what the receipts showed, so when I did the accounts ledger, I showed this in red ink. When the ledger was audited, the elders doing the audit went ballistic because I'd done this in the ledger. I tried to explain to them what had been done by an elder who took money from the contribution box was wrong and if money was required for the purchase of something for the Kingdom hall he should come to me as the accounts servant and get a cheque for the amount required. That elder said to me that he would do whatever he wanted, so that is why I put this anomaly in red ink. I handed the ledger over to the elders and told them to find someone else to do the accounts. A few months went by, and four of the severn elders had their positions taken from them. These men thought they were untouchable but they were wrong.
@fifthdimension1984
@fifthdimension1984 9 месяцев назад
Great anecdote. Thanks!!.
@Trin_and_Tonic
@Trin_and_Tonic 9 месяцев назад
They need to lose their tax exempt status asap!
@elizabethyoung4900
@elizabethyoung4900 9 месяцев назад
Wow wow wow 😮 I'm an unbaptised interested party and when I heard that the congregation would be expected to send a fixed amount every month I thought "that's quite an amount" as in the public talk that week the brother happened to say there are just over 117,000 congregations worldwide 😮 This is the last straw for me. I can no longer be part of this organisation. I feel sad for all the genuine, kind-hearted JW's who are "blinded" by their faith😢
@nikkig4847
@nikkig4847 9 месяцев назад
Yes follow Jesus not jw
@jiriovecka350
@jiriovecka350 9 месяцев назад
Do you know how much is it? And it is worldwide?
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 9 месяцев назад
Do not get baptized by them. Their baptism process is completely unbiblical. You are made to stand in front of all and say "YES" to a verbal contract. You are not baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ as scripture says, but you are baptized into an organization and its laws. It is a verbal contract. Nowhere in scripture do we see people who want to be baptized have to go through a study process and then meet with three elders at three different times in order for them to decide if you know enough and then have to wait for a special event and be made to stand before all to say "Yes I understand my baptism today means I have become a member of the Watchtower organization". In scripture, as soon as people heard the actual good news about Jesus Christ and the kingdom of God, they were immediately baptized for the forgiveness of their sins and to become a new man/woman in Christ. Jesus is the way, not any religion/church
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 9 месяцев назад
@@TimKollat100% correct!
@nataliemullings6908
@nataliemullings6908 9 месяцев назад
​@@TimKollatOh my God, this man is exactly the way I feel. I used to associated with these people and I never got baptized for this same reason. Nobody is supposed to tell you when you are ready for baptism. They turned my sister down twice and she still stayed and eventually she got the go ahead to get baptized. This is whole new level of Craziness.
@gladysbarbour1472
@gladysbarbour1472 9 месяцев назад
I always wondered why there was a deficit announcement at the end of an assembly. We built the building on owned property, free labour.....yet always we were in the hole money wise after a gathering.
@littleredgirl9749
@littleredgirl9749 9 месяцев назад
I always wondered that too! Something just didn't seem right, now I know that they were just crooks all along.
@georgecoons6872
@georgecoons6872 9 месяцев назад
maybe jehovah is money. money is jehovah.
@kd5gsp
@kd5gsp 9 месяцев назад
I had to become an elder myself to understand just how deceitful the society is with money and contributions. But it did help me to become fully awake and leave 20 years ago. A lot has changed on the surface of the organizations, but beneath it all it is still a solid pyramid scheme.
@carmenfreeman5415
@carmenfreeman5415 9 месяцев назад
😊😊
@pocahontas4583
@pocahontas4583 8 месяцев назад
Interesting. I have a fleshly brother that’s newly an elder and also works in finance for a living. I wonder if he’ll start to notice things.
@michaelmaston4702
@michaelmaston4702 9 месяцев назад
"We don't pass the plate". What a load of garbage. Nobody lies like Watchtower, too.
@201stars
@201stars 9 месяцев назад
As a kid, always hearing they were in the red, I’d just figure they were bad with their money management. That’s why I never donated lol
@mikepuccini4932
@mikepuccini4932 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like a business.🧐 Let's tax them.
@calismith4052
@calismith4052 9 месяцев назад
Buttttt they do pay taxes unlike churches
@Broknchainz
@Broknchainz 9 месяцев назад
But if you ask the Watchtower society to give you a money when you are in need, you’re never going to get a dime
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 9 месяцев назад
I can't ever remember even an announcement other than someone was sick, very rarely, and even then it was give them encouragement, no mention of fundraisers or anything.
@GalaxiaStars
@GalaxiaStars 9 месяцев назад
They will literally let fellow JW's go homless and still demand they afford their costly meetings and conventions , etc. The greed knows no bounds.
@terrijones1167
@terrijones1167 8 месяцев назад
Yes. You must 'carry your own load' there are genuine people in this organisation...many of them struggling as they 'slave for God not riches' with no financial help.....in fact we were encouraged to turn to the Government for benefits to prop up low earnings. This is a joke....I thought world governments were the Tools of Satan. Hypocrites.
@karenlsaunders
@karenlsaunders 7 месяцев назад
I tried emailing the service department to get all my $1000s dedicated donations returned to me when the branch couldn't tell me where my donations went. I never got a reply.
@gokaren420
@gokaren420 2 месяца назад
​@@karenlsaunderskeep pressuring them.
@bornaries7213
@bornaries7213 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing this reminder! As a young girl I used to always wonder why it was always announced that there was a deficit! I mean why couldn't we ever be over instead of under?! What we didn't know we know now!😤
@jahmasin
@jahmasin 9 месяцев назад
The assembly hall I used to go to charged a circuit $15,000 per day. That comes out to $1.56 MILLION per year. FANTASTIC BUSINESS
@benajminpadilla6360
@benajminpadilla6360 9 месяцев назад
What happened to "what you receive free. Give free"
@GalaxiaStars
@GalaxiaStars 9 месяцев назад
And yet they edxpect regular witnesses to still afford going to the booked hotles as well as the usually long travel to the convention too. I'd rather be spending that money on comic con.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Great business
@adrianjamesNEWS
@adrianjamesNEWS 9 месяцев назад
Right!? I used to go to a very old assembly hall in the ugliest part of CA where the land was dirt cheap and the hall had been built for well over 40 years. Even as a young teen, I wondered how no mortgage and volunteer labor managed to rack up such a deficit for just 2 days of use... Now I understand why. Thank you JT!
@catballou5384
@catballou5384 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for that insight! I left 30 seconds before WT became what it is today. I don’t even recognize it and I’m grateful I can’t. In my day there was just a little contribution box nailed on the wall somewhere in the back. No one ever, ever asked you for money. In fact, asking for tithes was considered just was one of many marks of corrupt false religions. Goodness gracious!
@mariselarippe2481
@mariselarippe2481 9 месяцев назад
Back in the 1960s they didnt ask for money, i remembe i left the cult but came back in 1984 and i was in shock they only talk about money ,always asking for money. I also remember we built a big and beautiful assembly hall, free labor paid for with money donated by us. We used it maybe for 3 years and then they sold it. They must have made a fortune. Not long after that we left for good,im very happy im a member of a baptist church. It took me a long time to look for god again but now it is clear this is a sect.
@enriccoc7794
@enriccoc7794 9 месяцев назад
what is infuriating to me is that my mom the loyal cult member giving over so much of her money that I would rather she spend on being nicer to herself or treating her friends - no it has to go to hiring lawyers so they can continue to protect child molesters
@wifeywife7286
@wifeywife7286 9 месяцев назад
Same with my mother,she don’t mind she struggle financially but she always made sure she put donations in kh even assemblies I’m so sad about it but I can’t tell her anything coz I know she don’t understand she’s very devoted to this religion
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 9 месяцев назад
Same here too, mom has them deduct a weekly amount from her account. Makes me ill.
@joeshirey5448
@joeshirey5448 9 месяцев назад
No Sir , or No ma'am . Not just protecting CSA Scandels . But yet supporting long term investments a multi million dollar world headquarters on 200 acres of privately owned land or at least owned & controlled by the corporate executives or Governing Body that live in a all bills paid for life studio condo overlooking their private lake with FREE lifetime Drycleaners on site. And free around the world paid trips to international Asymblys as celebrity's, paid meals of there choosing ect ect ect . Then upon enfermaty years of age a celebrity status paid nursing home FREE with grupy fan caretakers !!! That's where some of the donations go to at the top Governing Body level. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@AllMyLove111
@AllMyLove111 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely Sickening Despicable Corruption All Religion Is False...
@jasmineduran6731
@jasmineduran6731 9 месяцев назад
My grandmother donates every now and again, mostly at conventions. My grandfather (non-JW) always wants to take the check back out. 🤣 Out of all seriousness though, I don't know if I could wake my grandmother up because if she could see how crooked this cult is, she'd feel very upset about all the money she wasted over the years.
@jimmyb3158
@jimmyb3158 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for reposting your older material. You guys were the first "apostate" channel I viewed several years ago. Older content is just as valuable as your newer stuff.
@day2day549
@day2day549 9 месяцев назад
I don't believe that Critical Thinkers are apostates. They both are opening our eyes to the real truth of the organization apostasy. Be respectful.
@lesliethomas7234
@lesliethomas7234 9 месяцев назад
Additionally, the exodus from WT is so ongoing, that it is important to replay these heavy hitters.
@potiphajerenyenje6870
@potiphajerenyenje6870 9 месяцев назад
@@day2day549’apostates’ in inverted commas.
@symone3113
@symone3113 9 месяцев назад
Me too… I faded but still claimed to be one… when saw one of JT & Lady Cee videos my heart was pounding. Then I watched another one then another one….My eyes were wide opened within a month then I got angry😂😂…, That was 10 yrs ago….❤
@ivorywilliams7110
@ivorywilliams7110 9 месяцев назад
As a young adult I have always asked that question about a deficit on the 1st day of the assembly and no one ever gave an answer that made sense. Thank you JT this explanation makes all the sense in the world. They want you to live the simple life but give everything else to them.. God gave us 5 senses and everyone needs to use them.
@willyb933
@willyb933 9 месяцев назад
"Money, it's a gas. Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash" I used to sit as a kid in the stands at big Assemblies and think about how cool it would be to attend a Rock concert here as opposed to being bored to tears and sweating out another summer assembly ( in Vancouver we had ours at the Pacific Coliseum which had air conditioning but the org was too cheap to pay the extra for it to be turned on so we sat and roasted. That likely wouldn't be allowed now but back in the day it was the reality.) Great video JT and love to hear the insight you have into the real truth!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Wow NO AC???? Man
@grammargoddessNYC
@grammargoddessNYC 9 месяцев назад
There was always a deficit at the circuit assemblies. Every time. I’m talking all my childhood, preteen, teen and adult years until I left - from the early 80s (I was a kid) until 2011 when I attended my last circuit assembly there was always a deficit. And I do remember there being a different type of announcement at the district conventions - more like “we are handling the finances and everything is fine” type of message - I can’t recall exactly how they used to word it. But I always wondered why there was a deficit at circuit assemblies every time and why it was announced differently at district conventions. But of course no one dare question anything. And for sure a sister better not say anything. 🗣️ I am SO GLAD I woke up. These GB frauds need to be caught. Thanks for this oldie but goodie! This was one that confirmed SO MUCH for me!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
You knew your place SISTER!!!! don't you love it how crazy it was now looking back
@SuperFoodParents
@SuperFoodParents 9 месяцев назад
Uh oh, when it comes to money, things get funny 💰 Especially in religious institutions
@MG007.
@MG007. 9 месяцев назад
Organized Religon is a business
@SuperFoodParents
@SuperFoodParents 9 месяцев назад
@@MG007. Agreed, I've thought of starting several churches just for the business aspect myself. Religion is currently one of the largest industries 💰 📈
@kingdes127
@kingdes127 9 месяцев назад
Yup! They talk so much about how churches always taking all your money, but they try to do the same thing! Extreme hypocrisy!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@KatyCupcakes
@KatyCupcakes 4 месяца назад
I wish the elders were more like you when I was growing up. Listening to you instantly takes me back. You remind me of so many brothers I grew up with! Thank you for speaking with logic and sense. You are a true brother
@Rodz1874
@Rodz1874 9 месяцев назад
Years ago, when I served in Jersey City, NJ, shortly after the Society introduced the "all literature is free" program. We had an elders meeting, I was literature servant. Presiding Overseer read us a letter from the Society. It basically stated 'you've ordered $3,500.00 worth of literature and thus far we have only received $1.000.00 in donations from you. You owe us $2,500.00.' I remember questioning the letter. "The literature is free how do we owe them anything?" During the Service Meeting, the P.O. read a separate letter attached to the one that they sent regarding the literature. It basically talked about all the branch offices and Kingdom Halls that were being built around the world. He then said 'We have decided to give a contribution of $2,500.00 to the Society." People clapped, I just stood there shaking my head. They got their money.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Yup! They always get theirs off the top!
@juanreyes9824
@juanreyes9824 9 месяцев назад
Yes JT, they are hungry money you are completely right.
@womanofthenang3210
@womanofthenang3210 9 месяцев назад
A pivotal point in my waking up journey was your original Why is there always a deficit. I had to listen to it sneakily on a car journey to the shops because my husband was still "in". I was shocked, maddened and humiliated that I had ever been taken in by this scam and even more determined to disassociate asap. Fast forward my family is "out" along with most of the extended family. Much love and appreciation for what you guys do. ❤️❤️
@karenlsaunders
@karenlsaunders 9 месяцев назад
I wish my husband would leave
@stevenclarke5606
@stevenclarke5606 9 месяцев назад
Well done for waking up and seeing Truth, it’s not a Religion it’s A Child Abusing Family Destroying Evil Cult!
@ericmendoza4881
@ericmendoza4881 8 месяцев назад
​@@karenlsaundersleave him
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 9 месяцев назад
Great Job Family Thanks
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Fam for your support!
@robertnahum5823
@robertnahum5823 3 месяца назад
Looks like you two won't be in the red​@@ExJWCriticalThinker
@deezedayze8550
@deezedayze8550 9 месяцев назад
The Australian Royal Commission opened my eyes …..
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 9 месяцев назад
We left the cult after seeing that video!
@howardboyd7764
@howardboyd7764 9 месяцев назад
Reminds me as you've said before brother JT...."You can ask questions, but once you've been given an answer, you bet not continue to question that answer" especially when it comes to this little thing called money and how the Watchtower collects it....
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 9 месяцев назад
thats right. If you question the answer they give, you are treading dangerous ground and will be marked. If you continue questioning it after being told to stop, they will remove you from position, publicly announce youve been "reproved" or flat out disfellowship you for "causing divisions"
@BbVortexMortinghan
@BbVortexMortinghan 9 месяцев назад
It takes a lot of courage to break away from watchtower. Good on you.
@Rupunzelsawake
@Rupunzelsawake 9 месяцев назад
I remember hearing at assemblies that we started with a surplus from the last assembly but towards the end we were told that we hadn't yet covered our expenses for the current assembly. Then attendees would be guilted into giving.
@SallieB196
@SallieB196 9 месяцев назад
I wish more people would take Splane’s offer to “ask to see the finances” in his talk about apostasy.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 9 месяцев назад
The little boy gave Watchtower his icecream money and Toni Morris promptly bought the best whiskey with the child's piggybank savings.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@eyeswideopen8570
@eyeswideopen8570 9 месяцев назад
I always wondered about the deficit too, your video explained everything. Thank you JT. There is no transparency at the top, where it really matters. That should make you think twice before donating hard earned money to these con artists.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Just helping where I can Lol
@rawhan2
@rawhan2 9 месяцев назад
My guess is the transparency stops at the point where most people stop investigating. And those few who keep "sniffin", will be called disloyal to the GB and that scares the rest away.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@bigboithe8th
@bigboithe8th 9 месяцев назад
Who knew the Almighty god of the universe was so hard up for cash. It’s truly a miracle that he got by for all those trillions of years before humans finally showed up with their wallets open.
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂!!!!
@symone3113
@symone3113 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂❤
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@Hettowmache64
@Hettowmache64 6 месяцев назад
Too bad God didn't make a money tree huh lol
@chesterfrancis7699
@chesterfrancis7699 9 месяцев назад
This has always been one of my favorite videos from you because I always wondered why there was always a deficit Even before the assembly got started. Thanks for reposting this one. 😮
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@SanDiegoPIMO
@SanDiegoPIMO 9 месяцев назад
"🎶The best things in life are free, But you can keep them for the birds and bees, Now give me money, (That's what I want), That's what I want 🎶lol I love this rerun. It's good seeing some of the older videos because sometimes there may be a new (or future) Apostate so at least they can see some of the videos to help them catch up and be more educated on things. Most I've ever done has been the cleaning department.
@juschilln4904
@juschilln4904 9 месяцев назад
This original video sent me down a longgg rabbit hole, peaked curiosity about everything we were all secretly were thinking
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
We hoped that more will start examining more things about the org
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 9 месяцев назад
This video and those of Bethel are the best amongst the best for me, because it did not only touch what I was not privy on, but educated me in the way the WT operates out of the prying eyes.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed them
@n.b.johanson4732
@n.b.johanson4732 9 месяцев назад
Got me singing OJay's-The Love of Money, LOL The Watchtower has been in a deficit since I was 4 years old that was over 40 years ago. Apparently giving up my Happy Meal money didn't help with the deficit!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Yea indeed the ojays would have loved them
@ianpuddick
@ianpuddick 9 месяцев назад
I can still remember watching the 1st time ….brilliant video
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@jasonhaire8897
@jasonhaire8897 9 месяцев назад
One thing is for sure they ain't getting no more of JT's money.
@Ell5589
@Ell5589 9 месяцев назад
Thank you JT! ❤
@mozartzq2521
@mozartzq2521 9 месяцев назад
Always in the red, yes I always wondered. Thanks JT for your labors to break it down to bits and pieces, it all makes all the sense now.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Greatest scam every by God Channel
@hoppersgamingvideos1197
@hoppersgamingvideos1197 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for an update to your original video on the subject. This was probably the best EX-JW video ever made. EVERYONE was confused about this subject for decades.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@SuperFoodParents
@SuperFoodParents 9 месяцев назад
9:39 💰 2 person accountability & transparency of finances in so many religions are facades of finances. Accountability never applies to the upper levels where major money is slipping into pockets 🤨 🔎
@rocker1889
@rocker1889 9 месяцев назад
They don't tell the JWs how much was taken in at the District Fund Raisers, errr Conventions because they know more than a few people sitting there would be thinking to themselves "Holy Sh*t! I could've kept my $20 and bought some lunch! They don't need my little bit of money! I need it more than they do!"
@marvelprince9893
@marvelprince9893 9 месяцев назад
"You must be out your mind if you think the rate gon change " 😊
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 9 месяцев назад
Thank God JW Watchtower Religion is going out of 💰 Business SOON
@howardboyd7764
@howardboyd7764 9 месяцев назад
And we all will rejoice on that joyous day and occasion.........
@candy-mk6jw
@candy-mk6jw 9 месяцев назад
How soon? We have been waiting for years!!!!!!
@Coral-lu5hi
@Coral-lu5hi 9 месяцев назад
Who the hell cares? It will NEVER go out of business, just like the catholic church will NEVET go out of business.
@ginakelley749
@ginakelley749 9 месяцев назад
"Get out of her, my people!"
@vusimngomezulu2500
@vusimngomezulu2500 9 месяцев назад
Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????
@leahwilliams837
@leahwilliams837 9 месяцев назад
We were a commodity. Just like in the real world each birth certificate is guaranteed revenue
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@junejunie2284
@junejunie2284 9 месяцев назад
As a child, I would get very nervous about the deficit announcements at the conventions. I'd worry "what's going to happen to us? We don't have enough money!". Like I needed one more jw issue putting me into a quiet panic. SMH!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
They kept us in fear all the time
@MG007.
@MG007. 9 месяцев назад
I listened to this video a few years ago the night before I attend an assembly. I was laughing to myself when the announcements were read that we were in a deficit. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 My buddy is an elder who works in the accounts department and he works like a bloody slave thinking he is doing God's work. What a shame
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
We all meant well but we were clueless
@katb945
@katb945 9 месяцев назад
Crooks.
@murlepeterson6028
@murlepeterson6028 9 месяцев назад
burns me how no one is allowed to do any community service such as my local towns like vol fire fighter or vol EMS As in ambulance servoce!! they can't even buy a chicken BBQ dinner to support such groups or partake on community yard sales due to sponsored by same!! YET they have it preached to by elders & even Watchtower to get any freebies coming down the pike!! like not voting or say working for pay at a polling center yet wen the checks came out...many gave to their hall !! yes!! they live in poverty and now the warchtower expecting certain amounts per person ..again as the dog other churches, especially Catholics ,for collection ...2 faced as thy do, always did same..and well worse by shunning communiy unless it beifits..like food pantry or free meal((unless in a church!! go without food!!)) so you can give more to WT warped just warped !!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Great point
@sirwilliamclickclack7492
@sirwilliamclickclack7492 8 месяцев назад
I left 10 yrs ago and being raised in it what got me was the Society foots the bill to build KH and Assembly Halls (with free labor) and the congregation has to repay the loan. Loan sharking their own people.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 9 месяцев назад
This is one of my favorite videos right here. 🎵 Mo-ney, Mo-ney, Mooo-ney... MO-ney! 🎶
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 9 месяцев назад
💰
@maddog46
@maddog46 9 месяцев назад
Now that's pretty dirty.
@reymiguel3447
@reymiguel3447 9 месяцев назад
Jt and lady cee I just wanna say thank you so much for everything you guys do. This is the only way I know I can reach you guys, I dont know You personally but You played big role why I woke up. I was 4 generation jw, elder, bethelite from another country. I wish i Can stop by and see you guys just shake your hands and hug You for appreciation for everything you do. I will do it when I get a chance, you guys really helping many people, stay healthy and take care.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Hey man we are glad we could share what we know and I'm glad it helped you see behind the current Which branch did you work at???
@foxiedogitchypaws7141
@foxiedogitchypaws7141 9 месяцев назад
There goes ' relying on Jehovah ' goes out the window😅😮😂
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 9 месяцев назад
Lol
@liamjay6181
@liamjay6181 9 месяцев назад
This is one thing I never understood when I was a witness.. Why do they always end up short of money if the assembly halls are privately owned by the society? Electric bills running up to 2-3k just in 2 days? I never understood that…
@aljawisa
@aljawisa 9 месяцев назад
Time for solar panels.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Now you know Lol
@wolfie8012
@wolfie8012 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely amazing! I did not know that's how it worked. Conventions are Watchtower's Windows & Office--cash cows lol
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Yes indeed
@pocahontas4583
@pocahontas4583 8 месяцев назад
They’re starting to ask for money in ways I’ve never seen before. There was a video put up in the JW app about a month ago talking about paying tides. Also, “set something aside” was the topic of one of the parts on the midweek meeting this past week. I can’t recall so much focus on money and making payments from my childhood. Aside from mentioning the congregation and assembly accounts, I’ve never seen so much random push to give.
@Mushu882
@Mushu882 9 месяцев назад
My personal impression: Europe Branch will be closed. Why? Because of the very high energy costs. Gas and electricity is not safe in Europe. Germany has the highest costs on gas and electricity worldwide, even higher than Switzerland. Our Inflation rate is rising again and people just can't donate as they did before. Plus demographic issues. In 5 years, the decrease will be so visible for everybody.
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 9 месяцев назад
Exactly! I was wondering if someone was going to point this out! Everyone that we know, has $400-$600 electric bills!! The greedy GB will be out of luck.
@KristinaUSA-x5n
@KristinaUSA-x5n 9 месяцев назад
Destroying the planet and destroying gas pipelines and electricity grids and forests are responsible for that worldwide and using weather warfare.
@GalaxiaStars
@GalaxiaStars 9 месяцев назад
Also the europe branch is facing the biggest amount of legal consequences including outright legal bans on their religion currently.
@Mushu882
@Mushu882 9 месяцев назад
@@GalaxiaStars because of Norway. Germany isn't evolved yet, but people wrote a complaint to court. I have not seen any news on that yet.
@sherylalismom285
@sherylalismom285 9 месяцев назад
Most interesting. And clarifying.
@MarkCook-en4iy
@MarkCook-en4iy 9 месяцев назад
@sherylalismom285. Hello dear, I saw your pretty face so unique I can't skip your profile without sending you a message...... I will be glad to hear from you soon!
@leowalters8695
@leowalters8695 9 месяцев назад
I always remembered the "talk" on a deficit at the Henrietta Assembly Hall, in Rochester NY. After leaving this money making cult, I was curios as the annual income of this Assembly Hall. According to Dun and Bradstreet, the annual income revenues is 100,000 a year! With only one employee. Trees planted there came from my father's tree nursery, and my father waited over a month or more to be paid. It was a bad deal. Thanks for revealing this underhanded approach to get more money from their members. You have a new subscriber.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 9 месяцев назад
I went there thirty years ago. I've never thought about the ubiquitous deficit announcement before today lol. It also brought back a memory of volunteered overnight security at that place. Tbh if people knew they might not have cared because it was way better than going to Copps or Rochester war memorial or the NF convention center. Especially with that state of the art kitchen..... Until they to entirely shut it down, not to "simplify" I believe, but rather because of much stricter kitchen and inspection standards and they'd probably have to hire professionals to keep the operation going.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Good scam for sure
@18RRodriguez
@18RRodriguez 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the information! Whistle blowers in the pass had said that the Society are worth BILLIONS of dollars.
@benajminpadilla6360
@benajminpadilla6360 9 месяцев назад
So, is this the REAL REASON they encourage everyone to attend THEIR OWN ASSEMBLY? Cause they're counting on your money. Not that they care you're associating with your own circuits or regionals as they say?
@Dina52328
@Dina52328 9 месяцев назад
Yep, seems like it.
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@joshuaryan1946
@joshuaryan1946 8 месяцев назад
A great exposition! Informative about finances, bureaucracy, and group psychology! Perfectly done.
@wideawake914
@wideawake914 9 месяцев назад
Wasn't there a case years ago I think in Canada where an elder was involved in a car crash and it transpired that he was on the run with an assembly's money.
@lynngunn3630
@lynngunn3630 9 месяцев назад
Love this 🎉 th Al you for this explanation 😊
@joytoyouandme4593
@joytoyouandme4593 9 месяцев назад
Yes, there is never a breakdown of the funds that Watchtower receives every month. No idea what it cost to run Bethel, or what amount is paid out to traveling overseers, how much actually is paid out for kingdom hall builds for supplies (especially with a country to country breakdown), how much goes out for literature that is donated (such as bibles), how much goes out to the world wide work, how much is being paid out to settle csa lawsuits, how much is going out to hire “worldly” attorneys for high level court cases ( such as is going on in Pennsylvania) so many expenditures never disclosed. Yet the sheep just trudge along and reach into their pockets when reminded. And yes they do still profess that they don’t have tithes and all funds are from donation only. So much wool being pulled over their eyes.
@MarkCook-en4iy
@MarkCook-en4iy 9 месяцев назад
@joytoyouandme4593. Hello dear, I saw your pretty face so unique I can't skip your profile without sending you a message...... I will be glad to hear from you soon!
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 9 месяцев назад
God Bless JT LadyCee and my Critical Thinker Family Blessed!
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Hey Fam!!!
@aidellamas5542
@aidellamas5542 9 месяцев назад
I love you Lady Cee and JT. By the way i miss 'elder JT'... love from México...
@Eveningbreeze721
@Eveningbreeze721 9 месяцев назад
JT you have a great speaking voice. I can actually imagine you giving talks lol
@jesserafferty8185
@jesserafferty8185 9 месяцев назад
I never understood that....we owned the Assembly Hall. We all paid for our own travel to the Assembly, and we brought our own food. How are we $10,000 in the hole EVERY TIME?
@contemplatingwithamaster
@contemplatingwithamaster 9 месяцев назад
Nicely done 😊.
@oasisex-testigosdejehova6346
@oasisex-testigosdejehova6346 9 месяцев назад
Ah! The eternal, unexplained deficits of the Circuit and District Assemblies. Who would've thought that these were money-making Watchtower seminars?
@lillianm.dougherty7647
@lillianm.dougherty7647 6 месяцев назад
Only six? I guess they think they are smarter than everyone else. This is so bewildering to me. I used to believe or at least want to believe. Today I have many questions and reasons to not believe in their teachings. Thank you for sharing this. ❤🙏🏻
@davebenthimer4154
@davebenthimer4154 9 месяцев назад
That never happened at my house that money would stay in that box at my house for ever
@alans.wendelschafer6588
@alans.wendelschafer6588 9 месяцев назад
Funny how a multimillion dollar organization with property and buildings built with free labor, yet they would ALWAYS have a deficit. Always with the #stealthtithing .
@PokemonRules333
@PokemonRules333 9 месяцев назад
#taxchurches and #taxtherich
@sifisovic7
@sifisovic7 9 месяцев назад
I wonder why it’s opaque & they don’t share how much is collected as they’re not living lavishly like prosperity gospel preachers, what’s the need for secrecy @ the Organizational level?
@yurizhivago4591
@yurizhivago4591 9 месяцев назад
..nothing but an extortion racket.
@dominonowweknow31
@dominonowweknow31 9 месяцев назад
Isn’t it like $10 per publisher? If so it could be like 85,000,000 that will cover about 2 CSA cases
@HelloHello-cr4yk
@HelloHello-cr4yk 9 месяцев назад
Well in our Assembly it was deficit because our circuit Overseer literally stole some part of it for his own expenses without the knowledge of all the publishers in the circuit
@GilCedric-xs2ht
@GilCedric-xs2ht 9 месяцев назад
2020 we accommodated our CO & his wife in 5 days. They left in hurry in the last day. Hours later wen we check somethings were missing, we doubled checked the closet withmy wife but the box of perfumes was gone. They even went into some of our store boxes. We told the elders, they went to our house and said that its no joke bcz they seem not believe it.. After a day and a half we decided to call the CO regarding the ma tter, One elder then decided to call the CO, using his celpon I talked to the CO, at first he deny then for awhile he muted his phone then said they'll return early in the morning. They returned the items they took, a box of perfumes, couple of hangers and towel which they said that bcz they in a hurry they ddnt notice it. It's upto you to judge what kind of persons these are,. Holy Ss..😢😢😢😅😅😅 we check
@pauldaignault7407
@pauldaignault7407 4 месяца назад
The one thing that the Society fears the most is losing their tax exempt status. To lose that would mean that their books would be audited by the State. Then the “TRUTH” would really come out. This is an all cash business. Keep in mind that money never disappears. It merely changes hands.
@MiguelMartinez-zz4iw
@MiguelMartinez-zz4iw 9 месяцев назад
Always
@blplovinglife3131
@blplovinglife3131 9 месяцев назад
I found it infuriating that they changed the wording in Mal 3:10 to "tithing" in the newer Bible. Apparently, they are waiting to highlight that gem of 'new light' to fill their coffers. Robbers!
@GorgeousRoddyChrome
@GorgeousRoddyChrome 9 месяцев назад
Almost every other bible says "tithe" for that scripture. Why would that be a problem?
@albertcapehart1303
@albertcapehart1303 9 месяцев назад
​@Sand-ms3vd...HOT FACT💯💯💯
@blplovinglife3131
@blplovinglife3131 9 месяцев назад
@@GorgeousRoddyChrome It's a concern because JWs said they'd never ask for money and pride themselves on being unlike the churches who tithe.
@THEC.O.VISIT.
@THEC.O.VISIT. 9 месяцев назад
Amazing isn't it? How you can be in the red yet you own the Assembly Hall? That's enough to make one think. The thing that made me laugh was the accounts elder, between reporting to the D.O. and rolling pennies, you weren't getting anything out of that program 😂😂😂😂😂
@Christine-we8np
@Christine-we8np 9 месяцев назад
Back in the times when they had meals on site there was a brother in our circuit who spent the whole time cooking didn't get 1 minuite listening to the talks so he had to go to another another assembly to listen. He did this for years
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Bingo
@keithburton3713
@keithburton3713 9 месяцев назад
Time to fess up JT what did you do with all these pennies. Love your videos stay safe, stay well 😁😁
@mebestlife888
@mebestlife888 9 месяцев назад
Wow!!!!!!
@veronicasalas2666
@veronicasalas2666 9 месяцев назад
Wow 😯
@NotatHome4684
@NotatHome4684 9 месяцев назад
The Rhianna song “B better have my money” came to mind when watching this video. 😂💰
@ExJWCriticalThinker
@ExJWCriticalThinker 9 месяцев назад
Too funny
@moppeliini6614
@moppeliini6614 9 месяцев назад
If God Owns Everything, How Come He's Always Broke and His People are Always Asking for Money? I wonder..🙃😇
@willieline2302
@willieline2302 9 месяцев назад
At one of my last circuit assemblies at a assembly hall before waking up. They said the $10000 deficit was for "fixed asset replacement" such as if an AC unit goes out. This is for one curcuit for one day. I checked the local city rates where we use to hold the assemblies, it was around 1200 for a non profit.
@maryloumata4904
@maryloumata4904 8 месяцев назад
Money corupts those who tell lies and feed decit to others and pass it off as the "truth"!
@clarkgrayhame1250
@clarkgrayhame1250 9 месяцев назад
The assembly hall in Yuba City CA was paid for as they built it because I man gifted the land + money in his will and we never started an assembly without being in the hole.
@user-nr7jm1so5j
@user-nr7jm1so5j 9 месяцев назад
Tony Soprano .... runs the counting room ..l for the JW org.
@noahkling4018
@noahkling4018 9 месяцев назад
They should be making about $89M per month. If they are pre charging for the assemblies and such the deficit starts there.
@drelowe7
@drelowe7 9 месяцев назад
Money money money money Monay! 💰 🤑 💸 JW such a scam I want all my money back someone tell Stevey I coming for the bread!
@emmapeel8163
@emmapeel8163 9 месяцев назад
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@nikkig4847
@nikkig4847 9 месяцев назад
My seventh day Adventist church bulletin said that every week too
@PokemonRules333
@PokemonRules333 9 месяцев назад
Well cults follow the same playbook and jws think they are different but in reality they are just following the same playbook
@shawnamoen5026
@shawnamoen5026 7 месяцев назад
I had started "bible studies " and was told no tithing required 😅
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