Such a beautiful, deep and profound conversation. I am so happy to be treading this earth with people like you! I smiled and laughed and cried through this, but that in itself has shown me this is the way that we must cope with what is unfolding.
I've been fighting for climafe change action for years now and it's been a journey of deep learning. I was a pilot and have followed the science first but seen a rapid deterioration in the last 5 years. I hope we're not too late but maybe we are and I now accept this. So what to do? I think warning the public of what's coming is very worthwhile so they can prepare. Our society is built on so many lies ...let's live truth instead 😇
After reading the Scientists’ Warning page titled, “The Faulty Science, Doomism, And Flawed Conclusions Of Deep Adaptation,” I understand how Bendell’s “Deep Adaptation” does harm to the climate justice movement. I’m grateful for this Post Doom Conversations series, because it’s caused me to dig deeper and understand better our overshoot predicament and my role in it. Before watching any episode in this series, I’ve found it not only useful but necessary to do a thorough google search on the guest. I’ve watched this interview, but don’t recall exactly how it went. I do appreciate, in general, when your introduction makes clear that you have a controversial guest, and when you challenge opinions that are not supported by sound science.
Hey Michael, Thank you for this interview and I also want to thank you for the very informative books that you have narrated and which I have found very helpful in understanding the global situation.
THanks David for these conversations - this one is very special because it deals with a very difficult aspect of our lives - our final exit!! I am 76 and fully understand the threat hanging over everyone but especially the elderly. The decision of staying home and submitting to the process of this disease is huge!! My extended immediate family all live nearby and if I made the decision to not go to the hospital because of a lack of beds they would be very upset but they would mostly accept my wishes. There are so many issues involved in how we deal with this crisis that I cannot comment on them all. Thank goodness that at this time, even here in NY (Long ISland in my case) hospital beds are becoming much less of an issue so at this moment I am not being confronted with this type of choice. HOwever I love the idea of sending a letter to all my relatives expressing my thoughts in case the worst develops for me and I end up in the hospital and they can't visit due to restrictions. I think this whole idea of dealing with death which has worked on for so long really deserves some special treatment and is worthy of prime time coverage for the nation as a whole!! Stay safe, live long and prosper!!
We are so screwed up by our system that helping our senior neighbors during a pandemic is a "great idea", instead of instinctual...We have been so pathetically atomized, and it's not an accident, but is a safeguard built into the system....I wouldn't be worried about being kept alive by cost, money isn't real, we can create as much as possible, it's a tool to elevate some and keep others under control...The lives of those actively helping and educating society to a more realistic reality are very valuable, and rare....Preparing for collapse should include stock piling food and learning the skills our ancestors took for granted..Even if these supplies are stolen from us, they may help someone survive...That someone could be the person that helps a species survive...When the last mass extinction took place, a shrew type mammal survived and all mammals evolved from that species, including us....The butterfly effect is a reality on a planet where everything is connected....
I have lived in my home for almost 30 years. Raised two kids in it. I feel it is my sanctuary I have decided I will die here in my home not among strangers in a strange place. Love these talks Michael, it really settles my mind and fears down.
The speaker talks of prepping - I've done some. I have enough to take care of every need for a month or two. In the long run, this won't do any good of course but my thought is that if things go down quickly, I want some time to gather my wits and find my balance and not be catapaulted into a mindless panic. That is really the only purpose of my prepping, though.
If you've not already seen them, my latest two-part video series, "Collapse in a Nutshell: Understanding Our Predicament" and "Overshoot in a Nutshell" garnered 140,000+ views the first two weeks they were released - 10,000 a day, a first for me: postdoom.com/resources. Join us, if you are so led: postdoom.com/discussions/ I also recommend the "post-doom" conversations here: postdoom.com
"Two white guys telling everyone how to think...." :-) Listen not only to women and feminism, for the learning-to-be-with-pain women and feminists are likely to have more experience with than even the most humble among you fellows.... But also listen to the people of disability communities. Same reasons. More experience with pain, collapse, adaptation, and coming to terms.
But, this might seem like just another form of complaining? It can be that, for sure, but I hope what brings me to comment is not to blame, but as another idea about how we can all more fully show up, lean in, and learn how to persist.
Interesting stuff here, no doubt. Dowd's conversations with almost exclusively white, middle-class males who are now grieving for a dying world are at times engaging and even uplifting. But as a middle-aged person of colour whose ancestors were torn away from their homes to be enslaved I find these talks somewhat nauseating. Indigenous peoples and brown-skinned peoples of the world have been experiencing immeasurable loss and grief for centuries. Those peoples have endured centuries of deprivation and exploitation by the colonial- industrial machines and systems created by the 'white' world. Now, in discussions such as these, materially comfortable men sit around lamenting the dying of the light. We, by contrast, can only celebrate the destruction of what will surely be the final 'great' imperial project of these such homo sapiens.
So grateful for this wise conversation.The Good Grief Network has a program that has been proven to help people move their heavy emotions, come together in community, and help us confront our mortality. If cost is a barrier, we'll send our manual to anyone who wants to start a group. More here: www.goodgriefnetwork.org/10-steps/
Hey LaUra and Aimee - Great to see you posting on your Good Grief Network! I want to mention here that in this Post-Doom conversation with Jem, at time-codes 15:24 and 15:51 , Connie pasted in visual overlays from your own Post-Doom, Good Grief conversation. Your contributions are not only vital, but they show that wisdom is by no means the sole province of so-called elders. Carry on with your Great Work! Big love and cyber-elbow-bumps, ~ M & C
@@thegreatstory Wow! Thank you for the shout out. We are seeing so many people hurting in these times. Healing together in community, processing out heavy feelings, and taking a hard look at our limits and agency is so needed right now. Thank you for your great work Michael & Connie.
A simple question to self-styled gurus like Jem - do you have hungry mouths to feed? Do you have children who have no home or Hope ? Knowing well there will be no reaponse to simple questions inside an all-white echo chamber ...
