@@tovaskogstrom6287 This is a laughable comment. I apologise for your public display, and sympathise with you. I think you must have missed every description of Katniss written.
@@tovaskogstrom6287 It literally referred to her weight and size in the movie. Nice try. Inaccuracy is inaccuracy, no matter how much you wish with all your might that obesity was not unattractive and unhealthy.
I did after they searched new actors for the next movie.. especially because they said that there looking for thin people to represent district 12... but it has nothing to do with Jennifer Lawrence herself, just the expectations from the directors..
I personally loved seeing a female heroine who wasnt stick thin. She had a realistic body, her body. She represents the majority of women, not the minority, like most hollywood movies.
*I mean I would still consider JLaw thin. She's 5"10 and was actually a model before acting, but she wasn't conventionally stick-thin like most models are. And even if she was, it would actually fall more in-line with her character; as in the book, people in District 12 were often described as starving & malnourished*
@Halina Thor I agree- I’m the books it makes a point to say how they were super thin because they were poor and didn’t have access to food… it did matter for the role this time
I never noticed Jennifer Lawrence not being skinny enough. Her cold, detached, impatient, and pessimistic portrayal of Katniss sold it for me. Every expression, look of despondency, determination then downfall - THAT was Katniss. The last thing I was invested in was her weight and if it was accurate to the books. She embodies the spirit of the character, just like Samuel L. Jackson embodies Nick Fury.
If I remember right, it made sense to the book anyway... Because the whole reason the Katniss could shoot was because she was poaching, so her family actually did have some food.
I did think about it because it was so against the norm that it stuck out. It’s usually a size 0 actress that weighs 98 pounds and she was a normal weight
The fact that I never thought about it until recently when the subject was talked about. It NEVER crossed my mind that JLaw could be overweight for this movie, even if the title was The Hunger Games. She was just a GREAT Katniss! Perfect the way she was (still is). I am so glad she didnt go on a diet for it !!!
I would have agreed for very very many other movies. But not hunger games. I understand Jennifer Lawrence point, but the main character of hunger games is a girl who never really had enough to eat her intire life. And there are many kids in the world that don't have enough to eat and now a main character is supposed to present them. And it's not fair to leave them unseen und not represented just for 'bod positivity' because it's not about beauty standarts, because they were supposed to not look good because they are unhealthy thin. All of the kids in district twelve and many in the games looked much to healthy. Eventhough I wouldn't expect any actor to starve themselves until they look unhealthy/starving. But couldn't they have done that with CGI? An other point is, that being very light was an advantage of Katniss because it saved her life to be able to climb trees mich higher than others. Actually Jennifer Lawrence was also too tall to play Katniss, but they couldn't change that without changing the actor, so it's okay. And one more time, so that no one misunderstands me: Jennifer Lawrence is beautiful and does not at all have to be skinnier. Only Katniss would have to be. Edit:Sorry if something is hard to understand or tje grammar is wrong, I'm not a native speaker, so feel free to correct me. Have a nice day
i heard a hunger games fan say once she wasn't skinny enough and I was like what?! they said well her character is meant to be in a third world country where food is scarce. shes too big for that and I was like you are actually insane. someone would have to be anorexic for that to be realistic!
her being regular sized literally promoted so much peace for me as a teenager. so grateful to see a normal body weight in those years, it was like a revelation that my body was maybe not the worst
I’ve always been small, my whole life I’ve been short and fairly slender. but like as a teenager who felt very awkward in her body, Jennifer Lawrence always made me feel okay bc she always was herself and stayed true to who she was. She hasn’t nor does she want to compromise her body for the sake of her love for acting.
ps upon just now rewatching, holy shit. she was, in reality, so thin. i can’t believe it felt revolutionary to see that on the big screen. i’m so proud of how far we’ve come
Her issue was that young girls, especially teenage girls who already have body image issues, wouldn't look at Katniss and think "she's so thin from starving," but would instead see it as a goal to attain to look attractive. She was taking into consideration the physical and mental health of the young people who would look up to her portrayal of Katniss. Why is that so difficult for people to understand?
It's perfectly understandable, but it does take a bit from the image of oppressed state where people are starving. IMHO, they could've tried to make her look skinnier and exhausted with some makeup during the beginning of the movie and gradually get rid of it during her time in training,where they had all the food they needed etc. It wouldn't affect her image in 80% of the movie, but kept the setup more visually believable in first 10-20mins of it.
I remember when she came out against the body shaming culture of Hollywood, and everyone was like, "She''s kind of a stick-thin model type though." I had no idea until recently that she faced so much scrutiny over not being thin enough for Katniss. She's not even fat. It's pretty ridiculous!
It was never about her being fat. People were upset when she was cast because she didn't look like the character at all. The character is supposed to be worryingly thin due to poverty, have olive skin, and dark features
I remember thinking she was quite curvaceous and not skinny like the actresses that were trendy and that were everywhere She was quite curvy and sexy for a teenager! I was a lot skinnier and my look was less curvy and more stereotypically early ‘2000 and for me she looked really womanly
and like, “oh you should go on a diet” BRO IF YOU THINK KATNISS LOOKED LIKE A STARVING CHILD, DO U REALLY THINK THAT THIS ACTOR SHOULD BE FORCED TO BECOME A STARVING CHILD?
In the books, Katniss' hunting creates such a surplus of food for the Everdeen family that she trades food away for other goods. Katniss is also described in the books as being athletic rather than skinny. There was nothing wrong with Jennifer Lawrence's physical shape.
I remember the narrative of her being too big but to my understanding, it wasn’t about weight. It was about her height. If I remember correctly, Katniss was described as very petite. She was supposed to be very short (I think like 5’2) and small and was supposed to be olive skinned with dark hair and gray eyes. Nonetheless I think Jen did a great job and I was overall happy with the movies. Would love for them to be remade as a tv show though so they can go more in depth and maybe have more accurate portrayals of the characters.
Yeah! I even remember this part of the book where she looks at the other contestants and realizes she looks so much healthier than them because of her hunting and gathering. Everyone else truly looks emaciated (except for the tributes from the well-off districts) while she looked strong.
How long has it been since you read the book? Her trading was not due to surplus, it was due to needing other things. The few times she could trade "a surplus" do not add up to her being over underweight
re: several comments, her character was not supposed to be starving because she specifically was illegally hunting to provide for her family Edit: Since y'all are clearly misremembering... YES the book describes her as very thin, but only after losing a lot of weight in the arena and in flashbacks to when she was starving after her father's death. In her day-to-day life in 12 and when we meet her at the beginning of the book, she is not actively starving to death and specifically refers to starving in the past tense. This period of time is before she started taking after her father and hunting and gathering! You could've cast a very thin person in the role, but it wouldn't be accurate to the start of the book. You could cast a still very lean but less thin actor like JLaw, but that's not accurate to the book post-arena. It doesn't really matter.
There was a point she was so starved peeta burnt bread for her. I knew the context when i watched the film but my dad was like is she hung over? I thought she was still starving but onyl surviving die to hunting as shes hunting for her whole family. Not hate to her though
Is everyone being intentionally dense? She’s clearly talking about strong female action hero in kids and YA stories. That’s why she feels like it was trailblazing for the time and a lot of responsibility especially at such a big scale?
The Golden Compass. 15yrs before Hunger Games. Based on a YOUNG ADULT novel, the FEMALE protagonist sets out to SAVE THE WORLD. The FEMALE LEAD is played by an 11yr OLD ACTRESS. Nim's Island. 14yrs before Hunger Games. An adventure story about a YOUNG FEMALE PROTAGONIST, whose life is an adventure for this courageous 11yr old girl. Alice in Wonderland 12yrs before Hunger Games. A modern retelling and a sequel of sorts where 19yr old Alice finds the courage to fight the Jabberwocky one-on-one that will end the battle that threatens the good people of Underland. But I'm sure those don't.count for some reason. Stop reaching to defend Jennifer Lawrence. She said something that wasn't true. I'm willing to buy that she misspoke, but she needs to stop doubling down to save her @ss.
@@joshuah9109 how are you counting these years… because the first hunger games film came out in 2012 and the alice in wonderland remake was only 2 years before that in 2010. I agree that katniss wasn’t the FIRST female lead but she is still a very strong female character and you’re using incorrect information to try and discredit that?
@@joshuah9109 First off, my comment was in reference to people bringing up alien, lara Croft etc and saying that Laurence was trying to say she was the first female lead in a film or female action hero or whatever. That was why I frustratedly made the distinction. To comment on your point: Yes, there were other kids/ya movies with female leads. However, I don’t think any of the characters you mentioned qualify as action heroes. They are young girls who are part of an adventure, they may encounter conflict but they are not fighting often as part of their character. Katniss is in combat a lot, often hand to hand and actually trained with a weapon. There is a big difference between that and the movies mentioned, even if Alice has a random fight at the climax of the movie (which doesn’t fit her character since she’s not an action hero and doesn’t happen in the book). As for the others, those girls weren’t actually in combat and if they were, they were NOT fighting themselves i.e. people/animals fighting on their behalf, or on sidelines. The conflict was going on around them. Like if Rue from Hunger Games was the main lead, I wouldn’t say she was like an action hero/fighter type because she avoids conflict and uses her wits not to get involved because she’s a small girl. She’s more similar to the types you’ve mentioned. Can you not see how what I’m talking about is different? Having a strong female Main character who’s like a soldier, trained with a weapon and fights throughout the films marketed to kids/teens, I hadn’t seen that before?
It’s ridiculous that of all the comments Jen made during this interview people only focus on the action hero one. Can we never focus on the positives? As someone who suffered with an ED growing up, I really appreciate people like Jen who refused to bow to the pressure to crash diet for a movie part.
@@rahbeeuh Yes, about her latest movie The Woman King, which is apparently based on an african tribe that sold slaves back in the day. I like her in Suide Squad and all, but as a person, basically accusing people of supporting racism because they're not interested in watching a movie you're the main character of really makes me lose my respect for her as a person.
i remember her being cast, and my teenage self thinking about how i finally had someone to look up to. she was my weight and it felt like the metaphorical weight was lifted from my shoulders - i was horrifically anorexic but you'd never have been able to tell. now, im 28, i haven't felt bad about my body in years. i rewatched the hunger games a while back, and im a bit 'bigger' than her now. she was SO incredibly skinny in the hunger games, but the brief respite of being bombarded with diet culture, and heroin chic, and thinspo tumblr blogs gave me the nudge towards reality that i still uphold today.
In the text Katniss discusses this when she looks at the non-career tributes. She says that they look unhealthily drawn, thin, and undernourished. She said, while she was thin, she had muscle, because the food and exercise from her hunting gave her a healthier body then them. So at that point, she wouldn't have been starving thin...
I was a die hard book fan. Begging friends to read the book long before the movie was announced. The idea that she needed to look literally emanciated to play Katniss was disgusting. There are serious health risks involved with dieting like that. Why did we expect an actor to do that to themselves? Would we expect everyone else who played someone in the lower districts to do the same?
I really hope Jen will never change into something that she doesn't believe. It's getting so rare these days to see a movie star being who they are. She is beautiful, sweet and funny💝
This absolute insanity that her weight was an issue or a talking point. She is just super super normal. Absolute madness and upsetting to see her even having the need to explain it or talk about it.
@@swand1383"Nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn’t work - because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead." Idk, the combination of missandry, narcissism, and tearing down every other woman that came before her is pretty silly.
She got a lot of hate for her “puffy face”(she was a freaking teen with baby fat that time) and people used to say her arms were very big and all. She got a lot of scrutiny for the way she looked in the first two movies especially ☹️
The worst part is that she wasn’t even close to being fat or what people called “chubby”. I remember this being a subject of debate. Katniss was described as being petite and thin, but it’s really not that much of an important detail when translating onto the big screen.
Bearing in mind, Katniss as a character in the books would've been pretty underweight. Would you want an actor to be basically starving themselves while performing all these stunts, just for accuracy?
That would be so dumb, lol. Not once did I think about her weight! If someone wanted to stay true to the book, why not use CGI for everyone, but still - I don’t think that would’ve been wise, because kids were watching it.
I would have agreed for very very many other movies. But not hunger games. I understand Jennifer Lawrence point, but the main character of hunger games is a girl who never really had enough to eat her intire life. And there are many kids in the world that don't have enough to eat and now a main character is supposed to present them. Because they never get presented anywhere. I've nwver seen a movie about starving girls. And it's not fair to leave them unseen und not represented because it's not about beauty standarts, because they were supposed to not look good because they are unhealthy thin. All of the kids in district twelve and many in the games looked much to healthy. Eventhough I wouldn't expect any actor to starve themselves until they look unhealthy/starving. But couldn't they have done that with CGI? An other point is, that being very light was an advantage of Katniss because it saved her life to be able to climb trees much higher than others. Actually Jennifer Lawrence was also too tall to play Katniss, but they couldn't change that without changing the actor, so it's okay. And one more time, so that no one misunderstands me: Jennifer Lawrence is beautiful and does not at all have to be skinnier. Only Katniss would have to be. Edit:Sorry if something is hard to understand or tje grammar is wrong, I'm not a native speaker, so feel free to correct me. Have a nice day
"Nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn’t work - because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead."
i know people always got so annoyed with how much she talked about food in interviews, but i always appreciated it. she wasn't trying too hard to be relatable like people kept saying, i think she just has relatability in certain areas!
“It’s not accurate”. No one should have to starve themselves literally for a role. Listen to yourselves. You’re passively wanting another human being to STARVE themselves. The movies were amazing and yes it’s called the “hunger games” but I never once thought “she’s too big for this role.” She was just fine without a stupid diet!!!
I had seen winters bone, and I remember thinking she would be perfect to play Katniss. And then they cast her! Couldn’t believe it. She did not disappoint!
people think she is bigger than she is because the camera adds 50lbs to people with her proportions. I looked up her measurements once and I was shocked to realize they were identical to mine. I'm someone who has trouble staying at a healthy weight and people often comment how thin I am and ask me if I'm eating enough. So if a star looks thin on camera, just know they are SKRAWNY in real life.
I think she speaks very true. It was a good Choice to not take a skinny actress as a rolemodel for our Young girls… Even though in the Book she is skinny. She played the role beautifuly
@@sagedoty she is a sporty healthy women. slender or slim maybe, but NOT skinny. however, the katniss in the book is a girl that got so little food she didn’t grow tall and a lot of the times hungered down to almost dying. there are passages where she describes how her ribs where visible. so no, the lawrence has not the accurate size if they would have wanned to depict the book precisely. but I like the choice they made.
I would have agreed for very very many other movies. But not hunger games. I understand Jennifer Lawrence point, but the main character of hunger games is a girl who never really had enough to eat her intire life. And there are many kids in the world that don't have enough to eat and now a main character is supposed to present them. And it's not fair to leave them unseen und not represented just for 'bod positivity' because it's not about beauty standarts, because they were supposed to not look good because they are unhealthy thin. All of the kids in district twelve and many in the games looked much to healthy. Eventhough I wouldn't expect any actor to starve themselves until they look unhealthy/starving. But couldn't they have done that with CGI? An other point is, that being very light was an advantage of Katniss because it saved her life to be able to climb trees mich higher than others. Actually Jennifer Lawrence was also too tall to play Katniss, but they couldn't change that without changing the actor, so it's okay. And one more time, so that no one misunderstands me: Jennifer Lawrence is beautiful and does not at all have to be skinnier. Only Katniss would have to be. Edit:Sorry if something is hard to understand or tje grammar is wrong, I'm not a native speaker, so feel free to correct me. Have a nice day
I remember reading an article in some teen magazine when hunger games was coming out and Jennifer said she didn't want young girls to say "I want to be like Katniss so I'm going to skip a meal". That has stuck with me all this time and I LOVE her for it!!!!!
People who keep saying Katniss did not starve did not read the book, her family and her were still definitely underneath and malnourished they were just better off than most people in her district. Its literally the hunger games but I do understand where her sentiment came from, and the story was told properly even beyond that starvation look
I’m old enough to remember when these absurdly compensated people didn’t publicly burden working class folks with complaints of life not being perfect. Some perspective…I had to lose 20lbs to join the Navy at 17, and I got paid $700 a month. She made tens of millions for the movie and its sequels.
Ahmmm....I've readthe trilogy A LOT of times...they only specify she and her family were starving when her dad died and right before she was able to ask for extra rationd by entering her name again, from that point on she would hunt and always ask for extra rations and her and Gale's name were there a ridiculous amount of time to keep everyone in their families welll fed
@@ivonnegallegos58 you should read the books again then, and more carefully. The "rations" were just grain and oil, and the cost was an extra entry into games. Think about how desperately hungry a family must be to increase the chances of their children dying just for some grain and oil. Katniss took out 3 tessera every year. Not to mention, Katniss constantly talks about her relationship with hunger.
@@ivonnegallegos58 yes, also anyone who knows about starvation knows that people aften have a swelled stomach, and bony appearance, not the "beach bod" And it's not like they did all the other implications of being in poverty and starving.
@@jaycepero8069 she’s not complaining personally; she’s highlighting the responsibility she felt with the awareness that she is/was role model for young women - who are constantly targeted by advertising and media for their looks, to the point of well documented links with EDs. She’s not complaining about her own stuff - god sometimes I think people are being willingly dense to just be angry about something. Ask women - they appreciate eveytime someone models a healthy weight.
I was an extra on the hunger games. when I saw her on set I instantly felt at ease about myself, and realized that I could be whatever I wanted and a normal weight too
Ms.Lawrence, I’m 23 now. And you’re still my hero. You did great. I read all of the books, and watched the first movie. You represented strength just like Katniss.
I read this as a teen and even though I didn't have weight body issues it still meant a lot to me to reason that she had said she didn't want people to see her as skinny but as strong.
Speak for yourself! 😊 I didn’t care about the love story but was interested in the coming-of-age story, the developing of her values, and the moral quandaries she was put in.
I would have agreed for very very many other movies. But not hunger games. I understand Jennifer Lawrence point, but the main character of hunger games is a girl who never really had enough to eat her intire life. And there are many kids in the world that don't have enough to eat and now a main character is supposed to present them. And it's not fair to leave them unseen und not represented just for 'bod positivity' because it's not about beauty standarts, because they were supposed to not look good because they are unhealthy thin. All of the kids in district twelve and many in the games looked much to healthy. Eventhough I wouldn't expect any actor to starve themselves until they look unhealthy/starving. But couldn't they have done that with CGI? An other point is, that being very light was an advantage of Katniss because it saved her life to be able to climb trees mich higher than others. Actually Jennifer Lawrence was also too tall to play Katniss, but they couldn't change that without changing the actor, so it's okay. And one more time, so that no one misunderstands me: Jennifer Lawrence is beautiful and does not at all have to be skinnier. Only Katniss would have to be. Edit:Sorry if something is hard to understand or tje grammar is wrong, I'm not a native speaker, so feel free to correct me. Have a nice day
Well, series really is just a synonym for season. Yes you have limited series but they are called LIMITED for a reason - you can still have shows with a series 1, series 2, and so on, just like you have shows with season 1, season 2, and so on.
What we should want is to be a healthy weight for our over all health …see height weight charts for men and woman. Stop shaming and just support conversations that support the source of health and wellbeing.
I’m watching this in 2024. I have purchased those movies - binging on Hinger Games over the weekend is what I do at least once a month. I never knew there was a question about her weight in Hunger Games at all! There is no time to even think about when you watch the series!
She's a narcissist who tried to erase all female heroine leads before her. The only one manipulating anything is her. She's the only enemy women have in this scenario.
Katniss Everdeen was from the poorest district in Panem where they were starving. That’s why she and the others were so skinny, not for aesthetic purposes. She was great as Katniss I have to admit, but the actress who played Clove could’ve played Katniss too because she looked like the part as well.
I understand Jennifer Lawrence point, but the main character of hunger games is a girl who never really had enough to eat her intire life. And there are many kids in the world that don't have enough to eat and now a main character is supposed to present them. And it's not fair to leave them unseen und not represented just for 'body positivity' because it's not about beauty standarts, because they were supposed to not look good, because they are unhealthy thin. All of the kids in district twelve and many in the games looked much to healthy, especially in the end of the games. Eventhough I wouldn't expect any actor to starve themselves until they look unhealthy/starving. Of course. But couldn't they have done that with CGI? An other point is, that being very light was an advantage of Katniss because it saved her life to be able to climb trees mich higher than others. Actually Jennifer Lawrence was also too tall to play Katniss, but they couldn't change that without changing the actor, so it's okay. And one more time, so that no one misunderstands me: Jennifer Lawrence is beautiful and does not at all have to be skinnier. Only Katniss would have to be. Edit:Sorry if something is hard to understand or tje grammar is wrong, I'm not a native speaker, so feel free to correct me. Have a nice day
I do love that she did still look child like, like an actual teenager. Plus, she was told repeatedly she was too heavy in Hollywood so she knows the pressure to lose weight. She looked so beautiful and strong, while still looking vulnerable. They nailed it. You WOULD BE strong in that kind of an environment, because you're out looking for your own food.
"Nobody had ever put a woman in the lead of an action movie because it wouldn’t work - because we were told girls and boys can both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead." People are making fun of her for being a narcissitic misogynist who tried to erase all women who previously succeeded in her genre.
She could be talking about that time specifically when there were not many female led BLOCKBUSTER films. Movies that huge and people actually are culturally aware of that holds some weight with society
hunger games was a movie meant for a younger audience so I don't think it's necessary to make her weight that realistic, i definitely see her perspective on it, i was still a teenager when i watched it and it was definitely healthy to see someone with her body type as a hero, i think the realism of it is not important
@@nana-iv3si What do you mean by her body type? A flawless hourglass figure? Are kids so stupid that they don't understand that famine victims are skinny?
When we saw the first Hunger Games after reading all the books, my daughters & I agreed: Jennifer Lawrence perfectly captured Katnis’ personality & essence. We were thrilled with all the movies, especially the first one. Well done, Jennifer.
