The Grand Tour I Carnage a Trois (Renault 4, Renault 21, Peuoget 208, 2CV) Richard Hammond James May Jeremy Clarkson Don't forget to subscribe = / @leobonhartyoutube
@@Samuel-gc6js Rodger Moore... sounds like a cross between a used car salesman and a dodgy publician who used to moonlight in soft porn movies in the seventies... Anyway...
My brother had a 2CV in the '80s. I loved it - a very smooth ride, top down, pootling along. But it had a tendency to overheat if you thrashed it on a hot day, thanks to the air-cooling, so Roger wouldn't have got far.
The 2CV was the first car for many, many people here in Germany back in the 60's and you do still see them occasionally. They were cheap, reliable and could be fixed with a hammer, duct tape and a wrench. They are, like the VW Beetle, pre-WW2 tech though and date back to the 30's in terms of design, so they were already outdated by the time they really went into mass production post-WW2.
Sorry, but the 2 CV was never "outdated" with its front wheel drive and front motor concept. It is still up to date with its advanced design, not the least the suspension. The VW Beetle, on the other hand, is at totally disastrous design with no safety at all with its rear engine, rear wheel drive and pendulum axels, petrol tank in front of your feet and a long, stiff steering column, useless heathing, and so on.....
@jourwalis-8835 yes but the beetle WILL start in the morning and get you to the dark side of the moon if you wanted to go there! Plus you look cool 😎 driving a Volks and not a tool 😜
Yes i see a few from time to time. there is one in my town just standing there for the past 10 years. It's always at the same place, which leads me to the conclusion that it is probably broken
@@jourwalis-8875 How can you say something like that? The Beetle's design is beautiful! Yeah, it isn't really safe, but at least, you can fit five people in it. And over the time, the Beetle has got many upgrades. In fact, the Beetle was in the 70s one of the most safest cars here in Germany.
@@Diogo503I'm sure it was scripted. There was an episode of Hammond and May talking about some cars they used in the grand tour but Jeremy was going through things at the time they were filming it so they acted like he was with them by locking him in a trunk when what they really did was just use voice samples of him screaming to make it seem more authentic. So im sure they scripted Hammond crashing because it's a running joke lol
I used to hate the 2CV when I was a teenager, but older and wiser I now have to respect it. It is not trying to be anything more than it is. Chris Harris has one and he loves it.
I mean, this is just comedy genius, pure and simple. Forget about Top Gear or cars or Jeremy's shenanigans or their other careers - those three are just naturally funny.
If you drive a 2CV flat out ( about 60mph ) on a horizontal surface and wrench the steering wheel over on hard lock to either right or left you cannot flip it onto it's side. Fact.
Ah la perfide anglaise 😂😂c est ce qui fait le charme de nos relations depuis des siècles 😂😂😂😂sinon personne ne copie les produits Cartier Dior Chanel etc etc ?
Weirdly, I love the 2CV but it’s because it’s the first car I remember my dad having. He didn’t have it for long, he would buy cars at auction, fix them and sell them for profit, but the 2CV was the first i remember. After that he briefly had a 60’s Rolls Royce Silver Shadow, followed by an XR2i 🤷🏻♂️😂 … he still does the same thing today, he has his Transit Van that he drives around in and most recently his “project car” was a 1990 Mazda MX5 that was a Japanese import. Blokes a nutter
How many other car companies made cars that were complete polar opposites (simple and affordable like the 2cv as well as complex and expensive like the SM) both at the same time and sold both in the same dealerships under the same name like Citroen did?
Well today you have brands like Lada, Uaz and for a few years even Dacia (between 2004 and 2006 Dacia made the Logan and Logan MCV along with the old school Pick Up series based on the Dacia 1300/Renault 12), but yeah not to many brands.
@@chrisperyagh Fair enough, but I was referring more to the difference in technology and the year of introduction, not to the vehicle class. From this point of view, Citroën might very well be the only manufacturer to offer both very cheap and very expensive cars, as you suggested.
@@evo5dave : Perhaps it needed a new Battery or Starter-Motor ? They did also come with a starting handle. Quite unique feature, for a car of the latter half of the 20th century.
It all depends on what you mean by "great" I suppose. I agree with both May and Clarkson, the 2CV is incredibly iconic and meant a lot for millions in post-war Europe, that should not be overlooked. But as a piece of automotive design, even for its day, it's not really very "good". In fact I personally am more along Jeremy's lines, it's crap, but pretty much all old cars are anyway by modern standards. I think Jeremy is comparing it to modern standards which also isn't really fair
The Citroën 2CV is undoubtedly a true French icon. Practical, easy to run, and simple to fix, with few genuine motoring peers (VW Beetle excepted). Having said all that, there is no escaping the fact that it's an upside-down pram with a lawnmower engine.
Several 2CVs rode around the world; and quite a few 2CVs opened roads that barely existed as trails before : in the Andes, in Africa, in the Middle East … all in the 50s.
The original design specification for the 2CV didn't allow for shock absorbers to keep costs down. Fortunately rhe engineers put them in anyway. Can you imagine the ride quality and handling if they'd done as they were told?
4L the difference, James, as well you know is the torsion bars... French cars and Italian cars are cars not mechanical boxes. They are the only characterful cars on the planet now.
I honestly thought he was going to mention the umbrella handle gearshift. But no, fair enough, two different wheelbases on the same car, that's probably quirkier.
@@johnough4893impossible for it to be better, seeing as the British no longer manufacture cars, all the remaining brands use foreign engines and elements (especially German) because they are owned by foreign groups. your cars are so good that they all went bankrupt^^.
I remembered the disappointed face of my Mom when Diana was proposed instead of 2 CV! It's gone through Sahara and West Asia and staying with us all my childhood ❤️
"mounted steering wheel under the dashboard" as any other car i have driven. in fact its height is adjustable and they just wanted to make a silly shot... there comments arent worth anything.
En los R4 las barras de torsión transversales obligaban a desplazar el eje del brazo contrario, esa era la mejor forma posible de hacer que la suspesión fuese independiente y que además no robase espacio en el habitaculo, ingeniosa solución que se mejoró todavía mas en los siguientes modelos de Renault y PSA. En el caso del R21 la explicación es simple, utilizaban el esquema de motor-transmisión evolucionado de los R12, R18, R20 y R25. Para las versiones básicas directamente se introducía el tren delantero completo de los R9/R11 por lo que seguro que fué totalmente rentable. Respecto al 2CV, nada de burlas ni criticas, es un auténtico icono de la automoción. No se que tenéis que criticar los ingleses sobre coches franceses... aparte del Mini de Issigonis, el Lotus Seven, Jaguar type E y el Land Rover Series no habeis hecho nada interesante. No hay mas que ver cuantas marcas sobreviven. Por que no destripais un "magnifico" Rover, MG o Jaguar?? Los más decentes son los que salieron con motor V8 (origen Buick), V6 (Honda), TD5 (BMW), TDV6 (Ford-PSA)...
The explanation of the Renault 21 being two separate cars to cut down on costs doesn’t make sense. It’s more expensive to redevelop a chassis for the new engine and transmission layout. Suspension body, chassis, and electrical all have to be rewired not to mention the assembly line needs to be retooled for 2 separate cars essentially! It also cannibalizes sales of that car because now people don’t know if they need a front wheel drive or all wheel drive and reduce the sales. Even further. Your criticism is beyond stupid.
I'm in a very small minority, but the 2CV reminds me of George Lucas' "American Graffiti". Perhaps fittingly, it belonged to RIchard Dreyfuss' character.
French here (i don't know why i'm here, anyway...) : for the Renault, it's always a thing that the shittiest car will be follow by the most enduring one.
@@ilmaio cher amis seul un anglais peut comparer une voiture de la catégorie super luxe avec une voiture d'agriculteurs, même si parfois et souvent, même pour le cas des voitures anglaises ,les voitures d'agriculteur sont plus fiable que les modèles grand Luxe
I like the Renault 2 CV for most purposes. Cars in the US are getting ridiculous now. SUVs ( which suck not in a good way) are tremendously popular, and so is Trump.
Jeremy clarkson 😂😂 i wish i could put an hand on a 2cv and a garage to protect it. Dont like the renault 19, 21 , just ugly cars. They were working well though. Also i would never buy a british car. Too expensive to maintain and theres a lot to maintain. Old mini coopers are cute though
Because it is. That doesn't mean it's bad, but one needs to look no further than "Paris syndrome" in Japanese tourists where they literally get physically ill after experiencing the real Paris compared to the one in their head to realise that yeah, overrated is exactly the word. Overrated doesn't have to mean bad
@@TheLastCrusader22France is not Paris and Paris is not a good place to go. I understand that tourists want to see the Eiffel Tower, Notre-Dame de Paris, le Sacré-coeur and more but really... Paris can make you sick, like a lot of other big cities in France.
@@endthisnonsense7202 No, because British people are friendly and their country, particularly Scotland, is absolutely beautiful. Plus you can speak English with them, unlike the French where even those who can speak English make a point not to. French people are in my experience, and this is based on numerous visits but obviously it's not all of them, rude and quite "closed" to the world, even in Paris, which surprised me. French people care about little else than their own country to a degree I have rarely seen before in a Western country. And I'm not British btw, nor from an Anglophone country. So yes, given the stellar reputation France has in many countries as a nation of "culture" or whatever, overrated is absolutely the word, 100 %
