So middle class women all buy 4x4s so when they inevitably crash into someone, the person they crash into is more likely to die than themselves? That all explains it now.
so called safety.even well off women.we know someone who has a volvo xc90.what can't it do that say an Audi A6 Estate can't or even a Holden Calais tourer in all honesty.
Well most people use them in cities or places that don't even have any dirt roads or whatever an offroader is supposed to be used in so yeah, most people that uses those cars are fools
Anyone who lives outside of a town or city, even in the UK has a good reason to own one. Those nice and only slightly muddy paved roads can become almost impassable to other cars with only a bit of snow or rain, kids might be able to miss school but sometimes adults cant miss work or need to fetch supplies or medications if it goes on for a while.
His daughter is now 25 ... feel old yet? She also just said in an interview that she tended to get carsick, so this adventure was probably not fun for her. But it wouldn't be Top Gear if the passengers were happy!
ok then if small cars are safer why stop at small? You can get motorcycles for cheap, and they're fuel efficient.... They're SUPER safe. half the time a motorcycle crashes it's the only car on the road, they just go into the ditch and injure themselves.
Would you recommend a Toyota land cruiser over a 4runner? There's not a whole lot of land cruisers around here, but if i found one, would it be more worth it than it's little brother?
Everest Maher Well for shit gas (87ron) - they use better gas in Europe than we do. If you own even a medium performance engine you need to be using better gas than that. Most of your ancient technology 2 valve style engines that are still found in American V8s are fine with 87. My 4 valve V8 Lexus hates the shit tho.
Home of the Mad You’d be wrong. You don’t get the same formula from oil company to oil company or from season to season. Furthermore, BP is an oil company with filling stations in both NA and Europe- you don’t get the same formula from BP if you cross the ocean.
@Sean Rommel nah broh i'm european, and it doesn't even take an 11 years old to realize that someone who gets fired for punching a coworker is an idiot to some degree. As i stated before i enjoy the show and he is certainly a good entertainer but he clearly has some big flaws.
At least when Clarkson buys a 4wd, it is not a pos tarmac cruiser suv. It is a proper, solid, reliable and absolutely capable off-roader. Arguably the best 4wd ever built.
cops people hype up the td42 but imo the tb48 is the pick of the Nissan engines, I'd have an fte or 1hz anyday from my experience they are just far more reliable
How things change.. now days SUVs (the "off road cars") usually aren't even good off road.. yet still is a gas hog, heavy with very high gravity point.
That is just not true 😂 in Australia we use landcruisers like this and we beef them up with lift kits, diff lockers and huge mud tyres they are actually very tough cars can take a lot of abuse
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="240">4:00</a> onwards is exactly why we've got pointless "crossovers" now, which can't go off-road and are only now getting decent fuel mileage: "I want to be up high and look down on everyone else" We have this attitude to thank for heavier cars, more CO2 into the atmosphere, and the death of affordable sports cars.
Crossovers which are driven by incompetent knobs who drive 15 below the limit and bash your car with their doors in a car park. The best way around this is buying a transit, sit even higher and you are able to tailgate anybody you want because you're in a van!
For real. A friend of mine once drove his parents SUV on a dirt road and got a flat because it had low profile tires. Completely pointless. My Corolla can go down the same road without any issues.
Sadly, they stumbled across real "woman's car" after trying with A-class or other previous attmepts at cars for women... solution is crossover/SUV hellscape we now find ourselves in....incredibly bad visibility as everyone covers everybodys sightlines in their cramped stretvhed up hatchbacks on stilts thay foen even have good clearence 90% of the time. Imagine if we instead got truly refined 90s designs of Honda Civic that kept being lightweight and slick with the developments in engine design... Only comparable things are incredibly small city cars like Yaris or Micra or even smaller Aygo. We could've had same economy and more performance in a bigger package but no...
It's the reason why i have to look for a nice car in early-mid 2000s because everything after 2010 got so darn heavy save few examples from very early 2010s
Ironically though the closing statement about being safer in a crash in a 4x4 or SUV was partially disproven thereafter (partially by TopGear), with vehicles like the Land Rover Freelander and Hummer H2 performing appallingly. The poor center of gravity also made rollover more likely, and worse. If one truly wanted crash safety in this era, and knew what they were talking about... they bought a Volvo.
Not familiar with that one, as I gave up on 5th Gear years before even Top Gear committed ratings suicide in the 2010's. (the newer presenters got more and more nausiating) I do recall 5th Gear rolling a classic Range Rover to show the need for a roll cage, but the example given was extremely unlikely in a typical UK road situation. (they had to do a very hard lock to lock steering change at speed to get the RR to flip; suggesting she was comparatively stable for a 4x4) Top Gear crashed a Locomotive into a Renault Espace once though (the car imploded like wet bogroll), to show how dangerous level crossings are; so I shudder to think of how a car that lost to an Espace on crash safety would fare.
^ Never heard of that car, nor particularly wish too as it has a really lame sounding model name 😆 . I would add though that I don't count Volvo after a certain point, as they lost their way around the end of the '90's, and now exclusively make overpriced garbage, miles apart from the well thought out apocalypse surrviving Tanks they used to produce
@@Think_Up I think we're confusing vehicle types. 4x4 doesn't inherently = "SUV" (Suburban Utility Vehicle). 4x4's like the Range Rover, Land Rover Defender, Toyota Land Cruiser, Jeep Wrangler or Mitsubishi Shogan were/are indeed indispensable out in the countryside and wilderness... while an "SUV" like the Land Rover Freelander or Nissan Juke... is just poorly proportioned garbage made to get around the US's CAFE standards 😒
Personally I prefer Saloons and Estates that have all wheel drive; best form factor with most of the utility that all wheel drive provides when the weather is bad and/or the terrain is too much for a conventional RWD vehicle.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="240">4:00</a> when someone hit u, u will be safe... What she actually ment is... If she hit something she would be safe...
Can we just for a moment pause and remember what great 4x4s we had available in those days. When they weren't lifestyle crossovers or some shit. They didn't come with 22" alloys and sporty tyres. They had 16" wheels (often steel) with 75 ratio sidewalls. Live axles and diff locks. The fuel efficiency was poor but at least you had a vehicle that did what it said on the tin.
It's funny how they were so dirty looking. Now Range Rovers and BMW and Audi, Mercedes etc are all pristine, all about showing off and being sexy than being "off road"
Evi1M4chine disagree. They are perfect for off roading. What is off roading? The average person just needs it to be good on ice and snow, good on grass and mud and sand. That's it. They are just fancy cars, with the advantages of being luxurious and a status symbol
Here in Australia we use off-road vehicles for their intended purpose: off roading. We throw things on them, add another spare wheel, and go into the Outback with them.
For a person like me (with wife and 2 kids), a compact sedan is the best choice. Decent fuel consumption, better handling, good enough room and boot space for long trips.
Cheap? I would say average person in UK makes money quicker to fill their tank now in 2019 or in 2016 when you wrote that. People see prices but they forgot they were not earning the money they earning today.
Yeah people are dumb like that. Unless youre sitting in an armoured car or tank you arent any safer. The feeling of security is all that matters....maybe thats why we have a creeping police state these days
My biggest gripe with actually purchasing an SUV is the ridiculous profit margins car makers make on them, most are based on a car frame, but by adding 10 cm of height to it, they can add around 25% sale price. since most people here seem to be from the US of A, compare the equipment levels of a ''minivan'' (Honda Odyssey for example) which tops out at just under $50K, then see how much it costs to get the same stuff in an SUV, its madness this, near where I live, there is a section of two lane road, but because there are parked cars on one side taking up around 30% of the road width, its always very close, and I've had 3 mirrors knocked off my car in the 2 years I've lived here all by maniacs in giant SUVs and Pickups( Ford Ranger, Land Rover discovery etc) and each time I was stationary to let them pass.
America aside, this is also sadly a bit because of electric driving. SUVs have more room for batteries, since they can give up some of their height for the floor to packed full of them.
The model of Land Cruiser Clarkson was in are EXTREMELY capable off roaders. I had a ‘93 and with the largest set of BF Goodrich Mud Terrain Tores that would fit without modifications, I pulled countless super lifted trucks out of tough spots, and then drove right on through the spot. I did wish it wasn’t All Time 4 WD, for a tad more efficiency and less wear on front drivetrain. How I wish I hadn’t gotten rid of that gem.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="128">2:08</a> "Toyota also extensively tests the Land Cruiser in the Australian outback - considered to be one of the toughest operating environments in both temperature and terrain." -Wikipedia
true.i had an audi run up the back of my little car not long after i bought the thing damage to both was minimal.opel who are the german division of holden who make my car at gm korea have plenty to do with the safety aspects.if i had been driving a toyota or a mazda i would have been rushed to hospital by ambulance.
"Nine miles to the gallon!? Thats obscene! People who drive these are fools!" (later on happily buys a Ford GT that, with how Jeremy drives, gets four miles to the gallon)
The people driving 4x4s on the road are basically all house wives doing the school run that can't drive and "feel more secure" in a big car, but are then an even bigger threat to the person they eventually run into.
@Horizon585 Because men totally don't do it too /s. You should come to America and see the sheer amount of brodozers, women aren't alone in this flawed thinking.
David agree. They’re arrogant too. I was strapping my children in the car and as you do, you have the door open enough to be able to strap them in as you stand outside. One woman was honking and hurling abuse as she couldn’t drive past me in her huge Lexus 4WD. 😳
It was only a child riding a bicycle She only noticed it when she got home and wondered why a bike was crammed in the wheel arch and blood and hair all over the door 😂
@@LucasFernandez-fk8se they still tip over easily tho. I have heard a ton of different things. Some ppl say the four wheels give you too much confidence. It also should be considered about this that while more people use motorcycles so there are obviously more motorcycle accidents, they use motorcycles for all kinds of purposes including regular commuting while quads are basically recreational use only. I dont know enough about statistical analysis to be able to tell which one is actually more dangerous but id love to find out
@@LucasFernandez-fk8se They're massively less safe, which is why they are banned in many places. Similar safety to trikes - slightly better downhill but generally a terrible proposition.
@@luchadorito I'd suggest Fortnine's video The Killer Tricycle Banned by the US Government - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a_C8z0rFnjk.html it talks about quads a wee bit too but the stats are not good for either!
jeremy: "20 liters of fuel" me, an american: * trying to picture like ten of those bottles of soda * jeremy: "now we'll convert that from euro-babble into english by dividing it by 4 " me: "oh thank god he's doing it for me"
For a brief period I was afflicted with two Land Rovers. At first I really liked them, but then one day I became weary of the inefficiencies and lack of driving dynamics (although Land Rovers are better at this than most SUVs), and I traded the newer LR in for a VW Passat and sold the older LR. I am so much happier having a large comfortable car again, and it gets over twice the mpg’s while being faster, quieter, and better-handling.
I sort of accidentally went the other way, moving away from my sporty hatch Seat Leon Cupra to a BMW 3 series wagon and now an X5. I was surprised by how sporty a car like the X5 can be. It is noticeably heavier but the suspension is rather well in tune and it can take turns surprisingly quickly. I will be going back to a normal car for the fuel (and tire) economy, but I've been enjoying the ground clearance and awd in the finnish winter. That's about the only thing that makes this car "off-road worthy" but thats also the only thing I'd use an off-road car for. Deep snow and very bumpy roads, I don't have to worry as much.
I have a vehicle that has a 6 cylinder engine, 24 valve engine with only a slightly smaller displacement than Jeremy's, yet gets nearly the same mileage to the gallon as a 1990s- early millennial compact. It has more room inside than Jeremy's car, is easy to park, big enough to feel safe in, has a much lower c of g and has terrific braking power. It lacks 4X4, but because I hit gravel all of 3 times a year, I don't need it, as most people don't. Honda Odyssey. Buy one, bitches.
I have a huge Ford F-250 three quarter ton four wheel drive long bed truck with a pop-up camper. Handling is terrifying. Braking is non existent. But I pity the fool that runs into me.
you dolts can't use Kilometers per Liter? see how much more practical miles and gallons are for everyday use when you're not converting down to the nearest millimeter? PS Celsius is rubbish as well (for weather)
Funny, my diesel Sorento SUV gets on average 8.0l/100km (we use real world measurements in Australia too) which translates to about 35mpg for the metrically challenged.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="30">0:30</a> 76.9p/litre! I think that must be the first time I've ever seen the 'litres' count higher than the 'this sale'!
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="120">2:00</a> - That was Jeremy's house. But in The Grand Tour. James and Richard blew it up. Search 'Jeremy's house grand tour on youtube to find the 1 minute something video. Trust me. It's good!!
I used to have an Amazon, I some how got it for £500 at auction granted it was falling apart but drove flawlessly. Oh and might I add it was the 4.7l V8 that had a few holes in the exhaust it sounded mental lol.
Brother my commute to uni and home everyday is nearly 50 miles. But it’s hella snowy in the winter so I need an off-road capable vehicle. It truly is a way of life
The most amazing thing about this is the price of fuel! I've not been driving long enough to EVER experience putting in more litres of fuel than there were pounds in cost price. Just wow. The video could have stopped right there. It's a piece of history. Time Team will marvel at this more than Roman pottery!
Here in North America, specifically the US fuel is still stupid cheap, little under a dollar a litre (although of course it is in gallons). Which helps explain our obsession with impractical and stupid vehicles.
I remember in my travels in the past coming across a few earlier model Hilux's sitting on their roof. But saying that, they had great ground clearence off road.
Being both a car guy and 4x4 enthusiast,...driving a 4x4 rig on road is totally pointless ,we have suffer low gas millage which is pointless for a vehicle going at just 100 mph or 180kmph ,and also the discomforts such as body roll,so even as a 4x4 fan,I would prefer driving a 2wd road car with a very low centre of gravity!
Pretty accurate. Have had an 04 land rover discovery for 7 years the previous being a 97 disco. Worst tracked gas mileage was 8.7 mpg on the 04 in the winter. Also no stopping power stopping a 4.7 ton brick. But none of that matters when your land rover is constantly at the shop. You drive it less that way and spend less money on gas so those are back thoughts while you look down upon the peasants in sedans.
I have driven in the same conditions in a Mk3 golf and a VW T3. Didnt even get stuck in the big puddles. As long as there are some sort of tracks you dont need a SUV.
+Joe Barbaro Without high ground clearance you can often get stuck on the center "verge" (As tractors dig out large trenches either side leaving the center of the track extremely high) Ofc if you drive a ridiculously small city car and are stupid enough to take an off road short cut you can straggle one wheel on the central "verge" and one in the tyre track.. Not that I would know anything about that :3 Even on better quality tracks all it would take is one slightly eroded road rock to rip off your oil pan / transmission in a low slung road car.
Azurren Well of course if you drive a car with ground clearance less than ~15cm you are going to get stuck and that was the case with my fathers A6(clearance is something like 11cm). Im not saying you can drive nice car offroad but come on it doesnt have to be a pickup or a SUV if a golf can do it.
+Joe Barbaro I have a Corolla and have crawled down many a dirt trail in it, but you do it with your butt clenched like a vault door knowing how easily you could break something.
