Jerome Kaino compares Antoine Dupont to Dan Carter | Aotearoa Rugby Pod 

Kaino started all 14 games in 2011 and 2015. The only one. Whitelock with 1 as sub. SBW 5 subs. Played every game as well

Another great show! Excellent guests and discussion! Play on!

Enjoyed this episode and hearing insights from Kaino. Highlight for me was actually Ofa Tu'ungafasi explaining the art and difference between props.

Ofa’s interview was one of the best, loved his honesty and insight. He seems like a fan as much as an athlete. Loved it.

what a nice guy kaino is, be terrible for rugby for a poor france going round, good job they are very strong at the moment, great for Kaino, i still miss him for us. frizell injured now for 6-7 weeks ffs

Dupont is probably up there as one of the best that ever lived. Id say could be the best

Great to listen to Ofa, he isnt the stereotypical prop for sure

Dupont is like Byron Kelleher with Dan Carter's ambidexterity and Fourie du Preez's game management. It does help though that he has a monster pack in front of him, similar to what Kelleher and Carter had in the mid 2000s (against most opposition).

Another great show guys, just love the smooth, laid back vibes n good chemistry n talking points, no one tryna be alpha n dominate the conversations, echo Ofa's sentiments abt this show compared to others. Was great to see n hear from Kaino as well on his thots n perspective from that end of the park, was no doubt a key cog in the ABs being as great as they were.

I remember 2015 as a French supporter I was embarrassed by the attitude of some of our players on the field. It is often the smaller player (Parra exemplary) that shows the biggest heart and the largest body frames who absolutely give up (Picamoles was a huge disappointment) In 2011 I thought we were completely hard down by Craig Joubert who just would not referee the breakdowns in an even manner and the All Blacks really got away with murder. France was superior in that final. Incidentally, we have seen a fair bit of that going on against Ireland this year in the rucks, players laying on the ground slowing down the ball, players diving on top feet off the ground and still competing, all under the eyes of the ref and yet nothing. I think this is going to be a point of discussion again this year. I know players don't use it as an excuse but for supporters it is hard to swallow because everything is on replay these days (except foot in touch). But 2015 was a disaster for us French and a master class of rugby by the ABs, it felt like les bleus did not want to be there and were not even trying. Even the most experienced players were just not showing the right attitude. Picamoles, Pape all these guys should have probably retired long before the World Cup. I think everybody will remember Dan Carter shoving Pascal Pape one handed with such ease it was like Pape was made of cotton wool. The guy was a 120kgs lock. The difference in velocity was light years apart. Overall, I really look forward to this year's WC but somehow... I still have a niggly feeling this is not going to be our year. Some players look awfully tired to me. At least I know the players will give it all this time around. I am just concerned we keep making the same mistakes with long excruciating physical prep and no rest at all between competitions. French players had 15 days to rest between the final of the Top 14 and the start of a grueling prep. Our prep guy Giroud has extensive knowledge and experience but he comes from a rugby league and NFL background. That's where his prep comes from. The NFL is 17 games a season for 60 minutes a game which is hardly effective with all the pauses between. The Top 14 is 26 games a season on top of which comes the two European Cups (Champions and Challenge) in which French clubs have been involved to the Final every year (Toulouse, La Rochelle, Lyon, Toulon all winners) and on top of which comes the 6 Nations and international tours and friendlies. We are talking seasons at 35-40 games with a 2 weeks break in between. You cannot prep Top 14 players like you would prep NFL players, these are two different Worlds. The Boks and the Blacks in comparison do a lot more resting and as result you rarely see their players getting injured for 6 to 12 months period straight with relapse that can last another 12 months. Picture this: Arthur Vincent has not been on a rugby field for 2 years... only in French rugby do you see that happening so I am not super confident we will have the gas and an injury free World Cup to lift the Webb Ellis. We are not on par with franchise rugby and I am not entirely sure we will ever be. Skills, fitness, power, aggression, organization, discipline, we now tick all the boxes of professional rugby. All but one: RESTING / RECUPERATION. Olivier Magne was saying if we do not win it this year, we will never win it. I hope he is wrong because right now I feel with the injuries of Ntamack and Baille... it just gives me a bad feeling of déjà vu.

Man... its great seeing the highlights of when J Savea was just unstoppable!!

Small note but you've gotta get the sound mix right. When playing footage, make sure you dial up the volume of the audio track of the guys in the studio talking and dial down the volume of the audio from the highlights package. Was difficult to hear them talking towards the end there.

bloody ell, what a champion bloke

Yer great show thanx.

Breakdown and Rugby Aotearoa two best rugby shows.

I have two questions I would love you to ask an All Black: 1) In the 2019 World Cup game against South Africa, Aaron Smith didn't give the fastest ball possible. I noticed he often rolled/spun the ball at the base of the ruck about three times before passing. What was the thinking behind that? I wondered if it was to let the defence set so they could practice against a set defence or if he was trying to slow the game down to reduce the number of collisions and therefore the chances of injury. I've been curious for four years... 2) Do any of the coaches or players watch Squidge Rugby and do they get any useful insights from it? Are his analyses surprisingly accurate or does he tend to overthink things?

Ireland won in Dublin, France in Paris. The Boks tests were so tight last year with both FR and Ire, Boks without Pollard and Am. The AB's looking more fierce than any time since 2015. It is so hard to call. All 4 can beat any of the others. France has the edge at home over Ireland but playing away is in the Boks' and AB' DNA. I think Fr and NZ have the best depth. But no sane person would bet against ANY of these 4 sides. Quarters and semis are going to be better than the final.

Great stuff but pls pay attention to the audio mix. Could hardly hear you guys at the end there w the clips.

Maybe a tip for the production team. If you talk over a clip of a game with a loud crowd maybe just soften that clips audio so we can hear what the guys in studio is saying.

Not being rushed is a sport thing, I think. It’s like rushing for golf tee time, if you are rushing to the tee it just too long to calm down

King Kaino 🐐 6

loosehead is harder for its him who has to keep the scrum up, craid dowd said back in 99' it was a myth that props cant play both sides, in fact they train that way, so not sure why its new now.

Actually, here’s a question for Rieko, in his early days I felt his aggression was detrimental to his game, does he? If so how does he channel it now and does he enjoy being older and perhaps wiser?

Owens tackle technique is wrong but he's not a dirty player, the 4 game ban lenient but the man deserves to be part of the world cup, I'm welsh should hate the man but he's a class player 100%

David Kirk, Nick Farr Jones, Francois pienaar, Martin Johnson, John eales, John smit, Richie mccaw, Sia kolisi, a key component of winning a WC is leadership, we have alot of leaders in the team but do we have the one guy.

DuPont is a beast. If he’s still fit and fizzing in the final at the World Cup and if the all blacks and the AB’s didn’t thump the French by 20 points or more in the opener, I’ll be putting money on France.

Like listening to James Parsons analytics and detail.

Thorough gent, 2 world cups bagged!

🌟🌟🌟❤Dupont❤🌟🌟🌟

The match made me unable to take my eyes off

Dupont is a good player , carter a legend

France are on fire. They will be very difficult to beat. I think if they can handle the pressure of a home World Cup, they will win. They have been through a lot of pain in World Cup’s. Being in multiple finals and never winning. They will be immensely motivated. I think the All Blacks can win but they will need to win the Forward battle. Physicality will be huge. I hope the referees are not pedantic with red and yellow cards.

AB's not being the favorites must take a lot of pressure of the boys! Ireland have played a lot of rugby without JS. I don't think they'll be as vulnerable as they where in the Leinster final. England have the right personnel but the wrong coach. I don't think SB's Leicester playbook is going to work in this RWC?

9:21 Number 2 Springboks tackle on number 15 black. How is that not a red card ?

I wish you guys had time to talk NPC as well as these friendlies & the warranted World Cup hype. NPC matters too!

Ofa seems a nice personable guy.

The Boks are just once again peaking at the right time. They said in 2018, that 2023 is the goal, then "accidentally" (not planned) won 2019. Watch this team in the world cup.

farrells tackle was a penalty at best, vunipolas hit intentionally with his shoulder to the head of whoever was piss poor atleast yellow for that shit. how can they even compare the 2. rugby has real issues when they think like written down law, a good judge judges on what actually happens not written down laws.

The only game that matters is q-final against either Ireland or SA.

No comparison Carter the GOAT

Jerome... tsk tsk, Scotland is in that pool too. If SA gets rolled by Scotland in their opener cause they're focused too far down the road then it could be curtains. Ireland has to back up from fighting SA to play Scotland. Scotland is in an interesting schedule for them to cause havoc

Dear whoever is responsible for getting these on Spotify, pass the job to somebody please you're killing me 😂😭😭😭

Just because France are good at underage rugby means nothing test rugby is a different beast NZ were the best at underage rugby before but it didn't help the ABs win the world cups within that 24 year period

God i hope no one in control wants to repeat the already failed scott barret 6 experiment, Whitelock needs his workload managed as well. Luke Jacobson needs some game time and Papalii is only good on attack. If any of our 3 selected hookers could consistantly throw straight i wouldn't cringe at Parsons(a hooker) wanting to throw it to the back of the lineout more.

Kaino to coach England

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Dan Carter wears Dupont replica pyjamas. Just sayin' like.

Didn't really compare them

Lol someone tell him it makes no sense to compare them

Farrel will always be a dirty player because he knows he will get away with it they must take him out legally

There is only one Dan Carter sorry. Dupont is good, he isn't Carter! - SAFFA

Hey Bro. You live in Aotearoa, you have access to genuine Te Reo speakers and education, And yet you mispronounce Kaino to his face Try harder Holmes

Ireland nullified him in the 6 nations. Got in his channels and he couldn't create anything. France only got into irelands 5 metre channel once for Frances only try.

What's the bet the referees will ruin the cup with stupid rulings over red cards?

I don't get why this is called a podcast. It's just a TV show that's slightly less formal. Its good, but its not a podcast.

Until France win a world cup.. i shall regard everything about France and the hype as rubbish! But keep on hyping. It will be a total embarassment if France dont make it to the semi.. why? Bcoz of all the rubbish.

Du Pont is in a league above Dan Carter.

Of course DuPont is a better player than Dan Carter. No comparison

Dupont isnt Carter mate come on. How quickly people forget the greats when theyre gone 🤦

Dan Carter is a once every 100+ years type of player... Du Pont is a great player but not a Dan Carter.

As a french person and supporter, I do not really understand this hype regarding France. Yes they are good and in a good form but all of this hype comes from their 2021/2022 performances which are for me a bit overrated. Yes they had beaten every top tier nations those years but I think that no evidence of true dominance in their games had been shown. First of all, let's remind us that SH nations and players played much less games than in NH during Covid-19, so it plays an important role regarding the overall performance in 2021 from SH nations. Against the ABs, the 40-25 score doesn't reflect the reality or "dominance" as the blacks came back very strong 27-25, the momentum changed only due to an interception. Against SA, the win is made in the last minutes with a try which could have been refused tbh. In the last 6 nations, France suffered against Italy, lose against Ireland by 12 and the result against Scotland doesn't represent the performance again. So what I'm trying to say is France do have a good and beautiful team for RWC, they play a beautiful rugby for sure, but for me, they are not favorite, I would place them 4th or 3rd in equality with Ireland.